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Are there good books which explain or elaborate on the different dialogues of Plato? I remember seeing some by Leo Strauss. Any recs?

>> No.16904049

>>16904042
>That girl
Literally me.

>> No.16904086

>>16904042
she's hot

>> No.16904092

>>16904042
I'd sniff her armpits after a long day of work

>> No.16904099

>>16904042
Complete works of Lloyd P. Gerson's (pbuh)

>> No.16904136

>>16904099
thanks. any others?

>> No.16904163

>>16904042

Can you imagine solving crimes with her on her archeological trip to Cairo? I mean, that could totally happen, right? Like, some stupid superstitious muslims get killed near a newly-uncovered tomb, and now they are refusing to dig any further and it might force her to cancel the dig early and come back empty-handed, and that would be so hard on the reputation she's work strenuously to maintain, being a pretty young girl in a man's domain. So it's up to you to gather all the clues, make the right inferences, be gentlemanly, and then gather all the cast in a single room for a big reveal of who is actually the murderer. Like, how could she not let me kiss her feet after that.

>> No.16904184

Taylor Lashae, you pathetic SIMPs.

>> No.16904192
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>>16904163
here u go man. i think u need this.

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>>16904192
>>16904184
>>16904042
I thank you all a thousand times.

>> No.16904230

God, Taylor Lashae is such a babe

>> No.16904382
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>>16904192

Thank you, but I already have a folder.

>> No.16905085

>>16904163
Great story idea thanks

>> No.16905093

>>16904042
I want her to hold me and tell me it will all be alright :)

>> No.16905362

>>16904382
post

>> No.16905374

>>16905362
This

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>>16905362
>>16905374


Damn /lit/ is thirsty.

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>>16905438

>> No.16905782

>>16905438
What is she reading? The cover seems interesting

>> No.16905843

yowza!

>> No.16905853

>>16904049
Will you marry me?

>> No.16905961
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16905961

>>16905782

Can't tell by the cover or spine, désolé!

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>>16905961

>> No.16906171

>>16904042
maybe check for articles on google scholar

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16906208

>>16904184
Damn, I feel called out.
How to unsimp yourself if you want to try out different types of girls but don't have the opportunity to do so. You either end up bitter or simping for art hoes on /lit/

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16906231

>>16906208
>You either end up bitter

Well, I for one refuse to be bitter.

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16906256

>>16906231
Making use of the disjunctive syllogism, I'll thus call you a simp.

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16906446

>>16906256

Wouldn't be much of a frog otherwise.

>> No.16906555

>>16905853
Sorry, it's wrong for two men to marry, even if one of them is a girl (male).

>> No.16906561

>>16906208
Her death was the most painful in all the nu wars films

>> No.16906594

Lloyd Gerson (Ancient Epistemology, Aristotle and Other Platonists, From Plato to Platonism)
John M Dillon
Plutarch
Alcinous
Plotinus
Porphyry
Iamblichus
Dexippus
Themistius
Julian
Syrianus
Proclus
Hermias
Ammonius
Damascius
Simplicius
Priscian
Olympiodorus

>> No.16906630

>>16904042
Hey anon, currently going through secondary lit for Plato myself rn. Most of these are available on library genesis:

Grube, G. 1980. Plato's Thought. Hackett
Kenny, A. 2007. Ancient Philosophy. OUP
Kraut, R (ed.). 1992. The Cambridge Companion to Plato. CUP
Mason, A. 2010. Plato. Acumen
Meinwald, C. 2016. Plato. London: Routledge

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16906664

>>16904042
Sneed

>> No.16906687

>>16906664
Hey, Anon, hate the game, not the player.

>> No.16906696

>>16906555
Trips or no, then, that girl is not literally you.

>> No.16906707
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16906707

>>16906664

Seethe.

>> No.16906760

>>16906696
She's literally me in all the ways that matter.

>> No.16906769

>>16906760
Oh okay just a heads up you will never be a woman in all the ways that matter

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16906836

>>16906760

I highly doubt there are two creatures this perfect on earth. God doesn't love us that much.

>> No.16906846

>>16906769
Have sex, incel.

>>16906836
I can make you believe that I'm her.

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16906878

>>16906846

Please work on your humility.

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16906882

>>16906707

>> No.16906911

>>16906882

Much appreciated.

>> No.16906916

>>16906882
How much Walter Pater have you read?

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>>16904042

Stick to authors who don't dismiss anything in Plato and see his work as a unified whole. Here's my recommendation:

>Blondell (who has previously written under the name Mary Whitlock Blundell) has produced a fine study of Plato’s use of characterization, one that must be reckoned with — and will be read with pleasure — by all serious students of the dialogues. The central thought behind her book is that the divide between “literary” and “philosophical” readings of Plato’s works is artificial and unhelpful because a proper understanding of his philosophical concerns and his methods for expressing them require the integration of both approaches.

https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2002/2002.12.02/

>> No.16907601

>>16906916
Marius and the Renaissance
Just DLed a Delphi collection on him. I’ve so many books to read, but I think I need to revisit some of his work again

>> No.16907708

>>16906760
In at least one big way that matters, you are not her.

>> No.16907809

>>16904042
HOMMINA HOMMINA HOMMINA

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>>16906446

>> No.16908271

>>16904042
Some of Strauss's students (and their own students) have excellent commentaries, essays, and articles on Plato worth digging into, such as Seth Benardete, Stanley Rosen, Ronna Burger, Michael Davis, Alex Priou, Leon Craig, Robert Bartlett, and Christopher Bruell, among others.

Strauss's friend, Jacob Klein, wrote an interesting book on the Meno that still inspires dramatic readings of the dialogue, and his sorta-pupil Eva Brann has a nice collection of essays just on Plato.

Other dramatic readers like Ferrari, Griswold, Howland, Miller, and Plochman all have very thorough and interesting commentaries on a slew of dialogues.

Heidegger's lecture course on the Sophist and his readings of Theaetetus and the cave passage in the Republic, while unusual, are with grappling with, as are the hermeneutic readings of his student Gadamer. John Sallis, who operates a bit in their vein, has a collection, Being and Logos, worth looking at.

Some earlier scholars of Plato, like Friedlander and Jowett and Schliermacher, are all worth the read, even when you find yourself disagreeing with them.

Averroes' commentary on the Republic is pretty cool, and Al-Farabi's commentary on the Laws and summary of the Philosophy of Plato are fascinating.

>> No.16908279

>>16908271
Oh, and Debra Nails's Prosopography book, that shit's glorious as an autistic account of every historic personage that appears in the dialogues.

>> No.16908287

>>16904042
Political Platonism by Dugin is worth your time.

>> No.16908369

>>16904042
Just came to say this woman is perfection.

>> No.16908405

>>16908369
I agree

>> No.16908460

>>16904042
What's this aesthetic

>> No.16908827

Yes this woman is great, but she's no match for the girl at my work. It's incredible how an obsession with a girl has sparked so much creativity and inspiration. If only I can have the guts to leave my girlfriend.

>> No.16908833

>>16908369
>>16908405
Have sex.

>> No.16908845 [DELETED] 

>>16908833
>waaaaah he complimented a womaaaan
Have sex

>> No.16908848
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>>16904042
>Proclus - Commentary on Timaeus
>Proclus - Theology of Plato
>Marsilio Ficino - Platonic Theology
Marsilio Ficino also has tons of commentaries spanning just about every dialogue, even if its just a two page essay.
Arthur Farndell has published collections of these commentaries
>Gardens of Philosophy (misc)
>When Philosophers Rule (Republic, Laws Epinomis)
>All Things Natural (Timaeus)
>Evermore and Shall Be So (Parmenides)
>On the Nature of Love (Symposium -- his most famous commentary)
Simplicicus also has a bunch of commentaries from memory
I'd highly recommend also reading Plotinus's Enneads if you're up for it but Ficino and Proclus are my goto guys

>> No.16908857

>>16908845
Seethe.

>> No.16908872

>>16908833
how?

>> No.16908875

>>16908872
Cope.

>> No.16908878

>>16908833
teach me mommy

>> No.16908883

>>16908878
Dilate.

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>>16908857

>> No.16908932

>>16906882
Tranny

>> No.16908948

>>16908875
Have sex, creepy virgin loser.

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16909907

>>16908460

"Texas girl does French 60s upper bourgeoisie aesthetics"

>> No.16909962

>>16908948
Rent free.

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>>16908948

Ok.

>> No.16910214

>>16906630
>>16906594
>>16907064
>>16908287
>>16908848
thanks anons

>>16908271
noted. thanks. how the hell do you know all this?

>> No.16910250

>>16906555
I respect your Christian values.

>> No.16910274

>>16910214
>noted. thanks. how the hell do you know all this?
Got really into Plato and Heidegger in college and downloaded a shitton of secondary lit from Scribd and bookzz to read for fun. Huge miss to hit ratio with Plato scholarship, unfortunately.

>> No.16911385

>lashae
Let me guess, she's a tribe member?
Yawn.

>> No.16911413

>>16911385
Sounds more niggerish tbqh