/lit/ - Literature

>>16893980
https://www.plato-dialogues.org/tetralog.htm#tetramap

Read the wiki

>>16893980
Homer is the starting point.

>>16893980
Ἐκ ΔΙΟΣ ἀρχόμεθα

>>16893980
Read the Dialogues, then The Republic. Then you go with Aristotle and continue from there.

>>16894979
>listened to /lit/
>started with the greeks
>read plato
>so great many excellent discoveries
>start with aristotle
>such a slog
>been two years now still haven't gotten past aristotle to even read other philosophers

>>16893980
Do follow this example:
>>16894912

>>16895116
>You need 10 years of prep work, dozens of books, in order to even consider reading Plato
Makes sense I guess

>>16893980
>Im thinking of just getting Plato's complete works and going from there
this is a good choice

>>16893996
follow this but for short just do tetralogies 3 + 4 + 6 + maybe 7 but i haven't read 7 yet

>>16895116
don't follow shit like this, you don't need a fuckin degree before you start with plato, at most edith hamilton and maybe some wikipedia/encyclopedia on presocratics

>>16895208
'People' like you are the reason /lit/ is a safeheaven for pseuds.
>>16893980
Don't underestimate Plato, read before getting to him >>16895116

>>16895110
If you’re getting bogged down then finish what you are reading and read summaries for the rest.. pick up and fully read the ones that sound interesting and move on with the intention of coming back.

>>16895220
>>16893980
Don't listen to this guy OP. You don't need a degree to read Plato.

>>16895220
pseuds don't read
OP won't read either if needs a decade of tangential shit, stop gatekeeping

>>16895116
>>16895220
How is any of this supposed to help you read Plato? Plato's philosophy isn't going to gain any more value because you read a biography of...Alexander the Great? (Who lived after him, by the way). This seems like a "start with the Greeks" only if you mean "I want to learn about Greek history."
If you want to learn about Greek philosophy, you should start with Plato and Aristotle.

>>16893980
>Complete plato
Anyone knows of a good complete plato version? I have the Delphi one but apparently they're know to shit things up.

>>16895230
>>16895231
>>16895263
Imagine thinking you can read Plato in our current context

>>16895283
Wait, no, answer the question:
Why would reading a biography of Alexander the Great help with Plato?

>>16895283
>Imagine not being able to polymorph different contexts

>>16895263
The fuck are you talking about? nigger, he said "follow this example" as in, read secondary literature to truly understand what's happening

>>16895317
No, you fucking retard. OP said, "I want to start with the Greeks," implying he was talking about philosophy (with Plato). That other guy said, "look at this thread. This is how you start with the Greeks." He was clearly saying, "Read what this guy is," not a vague, "Find some secondary literature of your own and learn about the Greeks through that."

>>16893980
first you have to learn Attic Greek

>>16893980
Theogony by Hesiod
Phaedo and the last book of Republic for Plato together provide the summation of his philosophy
Oeconomicus by Xenophon

>>16893997
The wiki is shit.

>>16893980
This book and the complete works of Aristotle are already on the most accepted order for reading. Try to read some secondary literature before tho, just don't waste your entire life on it.