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16882976 No.16882976 [Reply] [Original]

Why is it so controversial? People working at the publishing house were literally crying tears at their bosses about how they shouldn’t publish it

https://nypost.com/2020/11/25/publisher-left-staffers-in-tears-over-jordan-peterson-book-report/

>> No.16882984
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16882984

>>16882976

>> No.16882989

Its not. Its probably a way to drum up easy press for the publisher. If its not, you can chalk it up to the hysterical mind virus thats gripped everyone in the democratic party voter base under the age of 40.

>> No.16882993

>>16882976

They dont want Peterson to normalize granny on little boy pedophilia any further.

> “I dreamed I saw my maternal grandmother sitting by the bank of a swimming pool, that was also a river. In real life, she had been a victim of Alzheimer’s disease, and had regressed, before her death, to a semi-conscious state. In the dream, as well, she had lost her capacity for self-control. Her genital region was exposed, dimly; it had the appearance of a thick mat of hair. She was stroking herself, absent-mindedly. She walked over to me, with a handful of pubic hair, compacted into something resembling a large artist’s paint-brush. She pushed this at my face. I raised my arm, several times, to deflect her hand; finally, unwilling to hurt her, or interfere with her any farther, I let her have her way. She stroked my face with the brush, gently, and said, like a child, “isn’t it soft?” I looked at her ruined face and said, “yes, Grandma, it’s soft.”

― Jordan B. Peterson, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief

>> No.16883005

It's just marketing you retard.

>> No.16883011

>>16882984
ya, I can jerk off to this

>> No.16883013

>>16882976
>12 more ways that I scammed you with
Bold.

>> No.16883015

>>16882989
>hysterical mind virus thats gripped everyone in the democratic party voter base under the age of 40

I like how both sides view the other as either mentally handicapped, compromised by something unseen (virus; demon), or merely brainwashed! Just how the founding fathers envisioned this great country!

>> No.16883025

>>16883015
Vote for us goy, vote for change
No vote for us, it's time for a change

(american politics)

>> No.16883030

>>16882989
It's cope go suggest this didn't happen. We can't go a week without a horde of cathedral brainwashed diversity hires flip their shit because someone they don't agree with is allowed to exist. It would be weird if it didn't happen, we're talking about books, english majors, marketers and a company staff that looks like that "this is what diversity looks like" Huffington Post photo featuring 9/10 (ratio, not looks) white blonde women

>> No.16883046

>>16882976

This is a marketing push. Peterson is a registered communist. It's all a show to sucker righties.

>> No.16883058

>>16883046
>registered communist
Source.

>> No.16883065

>>16883058
Personally I'd be very fucking surprised if Pete wasn't a Liberal party cardholder.

>> No.16883066

>>16882993
>describing your dreams is normalizing pedophilia

>> No.16883073

>>16883065
Why?

>> No.16883077

It has nothing to do with the contents of the book and everything to do with the "community" others have associated him with.
But publicity is publicity and waaah waah mean book I don't wanna work here no more! is done damn fucking good publicity.
People will buy just because it seems controversial

>> No.16883096

>>16883073

I know the type, I've been to UoT, "conservatives" there are mostly liberals that defines themselves against only the most caricatured definition of progressives. And getting a party card is a sort of weird social signifier for these cunts, kinda like the business cards from American Psycho.

>> No.16883110

Lmao at all the leftists trying so hard to pretend there aren’t loonies on the left crying over basic shit like this. “I-it must be a marketing stunt! There’s no crybabies on the left!”

>> No.16883158

>>16882984
She cuck'd him though for this romanian guy didn't she? Or is this a third guy?

>> No.16883173
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>>16883158

Yeah, she cucked him with the Romanian organ trafficker.
Pete truly did a wonderful job here.
You *know* she's gonna end up killing her kid. Give it another year, two tops.

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16883174

Thoughts on his 12 new rules?

>> No.16883179

>>16883174
Don't care just here to see woketards cry

>> No.16883180

>>16883173

She's literally a semen demon isn't she.

>> No.16883193

>>16882993
>>16883066
Jews discussing (((dreams))) everybody

>> No.16883201

>>16882989
Literally this. Like ‘liberal tears’ is such a meme, how do people believe that story is real.

>> No.16883206

>>16883013
This, what makes something a rule? How can we just keep tagging on rules?

>> No.16883214

>>16882976

It's a marketing push. Peterson is a registered commie. The Left can keep their carnival freak.

>> No.16883218

>>16883173
Oh this poor girl man. If she survives there is no way she doesn't end up as a xan'd out psychobitch like her mother.

>> No.16883219

>>16883180

She's posted her pharmacy bill (I think to show she wasn't taking any supplement in regards to her carnivore diet?, not sure) which happened to have a whole bunch of STD medicine on it, oups!
So yeah, that field's been thoroughly plowed.

>> No.16883253

>>16883201
>meme

Yeah bro those crowds crying in 2016 were just meming

>> No.16883254
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>>16883219
She is doing drugs like a mumble rapper. I guarantee you she is smoking weed and doing party drugs too and drinks more or less heavily.

>> No.16883266

>>16883254

> leprosy

The fuck?
Also holy shit I dont think I've taken that many pharmaceuticals in my entire life, the fuck is wrong with her?

>> No.16883283

>>16882976
It's funny when you come to think of all the historical cases of pubic hysteria over seemingly silly issues, but then you grow up to see it happening in our times.

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>>16883283
>pubic hysteria

>> No.16883304

>>16883254
>antiandrogen
I fucking told you high test

>> No.16883367

>>16882976
im gonna guess the people crying didnt read any of his shit. just heard through social media that he was a bad man.

>> No.16883419

>>16883254
ya she talked about this on Michael Malice's podcast. shes a loony obv

>> No.16883425

>>16883367
>Another employee alleged that “people were crying in the meeting about how Jordan Peterson has affected their lives” with one explaining that Peterson had "radicalized their father" and another insisting the publishing of Peterson's book will "negatively affect their non-binary friend."

>“The company since June has been doing all these anti-racist and allyship things and then publishing Peterson’s book completely goes against this. It just makes all of their previous efforts seem completely performative,” the employee told Vice.

Oh-nononono no no you just did it f-for ze profits? College Marxists will soon return to class struggle and criticizing capitalism and pooof will vanish from the public stage again

>> No.16883460

>>16883254
Papa P said he was pretty much a functioning alcoholic most of his life

>> No.16883488

>>16883296
That one went past me, kek

>> No.16883723

>>16883254
Holy kek
How do people get this fucked

>> No.16883919

>>16882984
i fucking lost it the first time i read this
>>16882993
is right it´s disgusting
>>16883174

OK LET´s CHECK THEM OUT!!

1.yes it is but he argues against these structures and wants old failing structures
3.peterson does fail this point the most. he´s an supreme hyprocrite
4.that´s how losers think
6.NO DONT CHANGE STUFF!! IT´S ALL MAGICAL COMPLEXITY!
7.shows willingness to see slave morality as a virtue.
8... and get butthurt afterwards
12 slave morality is virtue again

2,5,9,10,11 just to get the number to 12

i think i need to copy this for myself so i dont have to write a rundown the next 4 years on /lit/.

>> No.16884035

>>16883173
Whats the story behind that anon?

>> No.16884044

people like to LARP conflicts and drama, this is what happens you promote a mentality of combative and polarised ideological thinking.

>> No.16884063

I don't understand how he's so popular, isn't the book just generic self help for people who didn't have a father figure?

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>>16884063
>isn't the book just generic self help for people who didn't have a father figure?

Go figure

>> No.16884073

>>16883254
Ok nice, but any proofs that this is real?

>> No.16884309

>>16883174
1. True
2. True
3. True
4. True, but you should try to create mirthful situations as much as possible
5. I think you can silence it if you are especially fucked up or drug addicted
6. True but this shouldn't encourage over thinking at the expense of taking action
7. Absolutely
8. Depends on the art
9. Journaling has done wonders for me in this regard
10. I'm only 21 and in my first relationship so can't really say
11. No context
12. Gratitude is high vibration

>> No.16884325

>>16882976
>let's turn this guy we don't like into a martyr by banning his book
the left can't be this dumb

>> No.16884358

>>16884325
they aren't, its fake outrage for free marketing. tumblr-wokies crying online isn't "the left."

>> No.16884393

>>16883173
she looks like a prostitute

>> No.16884404

>>16883193
>>16883919
Post your most degenerate dream. You won't because you're uncomfortable to admit the contents even anonymously. Retards will shit on a Jungian for sharing dreams honestly.

>> No.16884413

the sad thing about the whole peterson isn't anything in particular about him as a person, its that society is so fucked up "clean your room" and "the classics contain collected wisdom" are now considered revolutionary and thought-provoking

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>>16883174

Ok, some content, let's do this!
1) Untrue. Any social structure is deeply damaging to the human psyche. We must go back to Arcadia.
2) Old stories tell you many things. So do new stories. But I thought Pete was a Jungian, this is positively Freudian...?
3) True, but you could also have grown in a way that didn't force you to face so many painful truth.
4) Fleeting happiness is underrated, and responsibility is just another way of saying "doing the things other expect you to do". Seeking happiness, even fleeting, is a sign of true freedom.
5) You very much can. But still, you aremright, you should listen to your conscience, and you should above all curate it.
6) System theory says otherwise...?
7) Shit just got real, real quick.
8) God. Fucking. Christ. I wanna fucking vomit on him. No you do not consum art, you motherfucking pleb, you contemplate it. You meditate on it. You can stare at a single portrait like an autist for years on end and you'll draw more from it than from binging art like one does Cobra Kai. Fuck you.
9) No, bury that shit deep, and build someone new over the remains of your past, traumatized self. Speaking from experience here, very little is gained revisiting that shit 15 years after it stopped hurting you.
10) Fortune-cookie tier advice. This one doesnt count.
11) ?.. I guess the rest was cut...
12) Survivor Man teaches that the most sustaining thing you can do during a crisis is to keep having goals, always immediatly follow a task by another one, just keep going, never give yourself the time to settle in despair. If you are going to rest, play the harmonica, tie a rope, anything.

>> No.16884525

>>16883046
It's actually thevperfect chess move if he were a communist. Label everything cultural marxism(despite having nothing to do with Marixism) until the term Marxism is demystified. People look up Marx out of curiosity. Wait...damn, this guy doesnt sound bad. Worker control doesnt sound evil. Also make a purposefully hateful charachter. It's the perfect way to create Marxists.

>> No.16884559

>>16884404
>i wanna fuck my mama is peak degeneracy
The jewish mind everybody. As a human i experience greater degeneracy daily when i see the state of the European people.

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>>16884404

Once dreamt my house was surrounded by a desert, with cacti, but like in Mario 2. One top of one of them was a buzzard, except it had my mom's face, and it kept calling me a little shit.
I ran away crying. This was when I was like 7.

> mfw I was a good little boy, not a little shit, why the hell did buzzard-mom say that?

>> No.16884639

>>16884404
Idk if it's degenerate. I often had a dream where I was chased by dogs. One time I found a knife in the dream and killed the dog, but it turned out it was my father in a dog costume, so I killed my father. I think it makes sense, but it was one of only few reoccuring dreams I had.

>> No.16884645

>>16883919
cringe post senpai

>> No.16884711

>>16884466
>getting this butthurt over the word consume
Jordan obviously means "consume" in the manner of actually experiencing art and contemplating on it. the "consoomer" meme is recent, and has practically altered the definition of the word consumer. you cant blame Jordan for not taking into account your retarded internet meme definitions of words you fucking dunce.

>> No.16885072

>>16882976
Convince me to take life advice from a drug addict that laid in coma for months in a Russian rehab facility.

>> No.16885128

>>16884711
Not the guy you are responding to but fair enough. I also thought the word here somehow implied to just eat my way through works of art like a very hungry caterpillar, but I guess my definition of this word has been altered by the meme. Peterson probably meant to contemplate on it like you said.

>> No.16885163

>>16883015
There are at least two ways you can slice it. Either it's a race to the bottom effect, where both sides pull each other down to this emotive, primate, base level of tribalistic antagonism. Or, this kind of social media outrage driven politics is preferable to the powers that be because it means that no actual solutions or policies are discussed, only name calling and an endless cycle of recriminations. Politics has become a kind of reality tv drama, it's almost entertaining in how ugly and conflictive it's become. Nobody pays any serious attention to what's happening behind closed doors. All the important stuff: boring legal codes and tax laws and the true substance of government, is left to the oligarchs and the lobbyists.

>> No.16885184

>>16883919
Take your meds tranny

>> No.16885189

>>16884466
Schizo freak

>> No.16885238

>>16882976
If you wanna see just what kind of person Peterson's philosophy creates, look at his whore daughter.

>> No.16885251

>>16885238
His daughter is empowered and independent. Incel.

>> No.16885261

>>16885251
Whatever you say, Rosenbaum.

>> No.16885266

>>16885261
Have sex chud

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>>16882976
Leftists like his self-help advice but hate the extremely eyebrow-wiggly political implication

To understand what leftists mean, imagine being in a close friend group. One of these good friends, though, is repeatedly saying something like
>Have you guys noticed that Greg never shows up on time, is kind of a weird guy, is lazy, and we don't know if he actually cares about us?

But it's weird because when you ask him to clarify,
>Okay, so if Greg's got issues, are you saying we should kick him out of the friend group?

He immediately backs up and says
>No, no, that's not what I mean, I just mean <REPEATS EVERYTHING AGAIN BUT SLIGHTLY REPHRASED>

This goes on for months, and any time you try to pin him down by asking
>Practically, what ought we do about Greg, then?
You never can get a straight answer out of the guy, and he just repeats his rant slightly rephrased.

Eventually you'd get to thinking the friend has a chip on his shoulder with Greg, and he's just not saying what he'd want done about Greg because he wants YOU to take action against Greg, while he maintains plausible deniability and avoids social responsibility for his recommendations.

People on the left argue that JP is hardcore Greg-ing for common rightist philosophies. So
>get your house in order,
>You are responsible for your issues
>focus on your local life

Are smokescreens for political stances they dislike including:
>People, not systems, are primarily at fault for bad things that happen to them - so if someone's house isn't in order, that's on them, and society shouldn't be expected to help or need to be a part of their ordering.

>If people are responsible for their issues, they're also at fault for them. To be successful is a moral good, to be a failure is a sign of moral or personal failings.

>People need to focus on their local, personal life - so when someone fights for policy solutions on systemic issues, you should tell them to sod off because they're wrongly focused

>> No.16885304

>>16885271
It's all nonsense that's why. Nothing decides what makes a rule a rule. He's a clinical psychologist who refers to Dostoevesky in some jerry-rigged metaphysical form and some empirical work.

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16885310

Everyone in here is piling on his daughter but let's be honest
Breeding with a russian way out of her league is better than 99% of western women

>> No.16885322

right wingers think marxists run the media but conservative darlings like Peterson and Rowling still get published to great acclaim

>> No.16885324

>>16885310
>Igor

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>>16885310
If every women was like his daughter the west would be in a better state
But nowadays 90% of western women go for BBCs
It also seems he completely bleached her (brown eyed and haired)

>> No.16885343

>>16885338
you're delusional, stop thinking about the penises of black men, it's not healthy

>> No.16885344

>>16885338
Thank god the russian genes are stronger than western ones
And then people say light eyes and hair are recessive
Only in the west they are

>> No.16885348

>>16885343
I'm a BBC (Balkan) myself
I don't care about the western whores and their love for BBCs (there are not a lot of black guys here) I'm just stating the facts

>> No.16885353

>>16885348
oh, i thought i was speaking to a human, never mind

>> No.16885364

>>16885353
Chances are my country (Croatia) is whiter than yours
It's just that we are also as athletic tall and aggressive as BBCs are

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>>16883206
What makes something a rule?
If it was part of his Quora post that got a lot of attention.

>> No.16885583

>>16884073
the youtube link in the pic?

>> No.16885599

>>16885580
48 rules, 12 per book.
We're going to get 4 books.

>> No.16885603

>>16883173
Why is skin hanging off her shin

>> No.16885610

>>16884358
Holy shit this cope

>> No.16885613

>>16883096
>defines themselves against only the most caricatured definition of progressives
whats wrong with that

>> No.16885630

>>16882984
Oh no Peterson bros we got too cocky

>> No.16885633

>>16884404
I can remember a few pretty vivid dreams from my young childhood (younger than age 10). A recurring dream I had was that I had been shrunk down and placed in someone's underwear, and occasionally they would pull the waistband open to look for me so I had to hide.

Another was that there were giant babies (larger than a house) who would urinate on the house and fill it with a sea of piss and I had to swim free.

There were other slight variations, but looking back it seems pretty in line with a Freudian theory of sexual development in a child. And no, there was no inappropriate outside influences on me at any time.

I kind of wonder if most people had these kinds of dreams as kids but simply forgot them (or repressed them)

>> No.16885640

>>16885322
But anon, JP is a liberal and JK is a progressive. The only thing that sets them apart from mainstream cathedral politics is they don't want to be legally required to pander to the mentally ill with pronoun laws.

>> No.16885650

>>16884466
really forcing it with this one anon

>> No.16885749

>>16882984
I ask you to consider who talks like this. Do you know anyone who speaks ikr this? This is dialogue from a 50s era drama

>> No.16885759

>>16885749
Narcissists write like that, they try very hard to be perceived in a certain way.

>> No.16885765

>>16885759
It's not just the narcissism
>this strange Russian man
I understand her dad is old school but teaching your daughter to refer to people like this is Beyond Cringe

>> No.16885779

>>16885271
In this instance, I think its more a case of
>Pete becomes a local celebrity after a video surfaces of Greg the village retard screaming obscenities and chanting at him while Pete crosses his arms professionally and pretends to take Greg seriously
>In wake of this embarrassing video, Greg repeatedly invites Pete onto his podcast so he can try to "trap" Pete into admitting that he secretly hates Greg and is in bed with the Nazis and also the Russians in an elaborate anti-Greg conspiracy
>Pete calmly tells Greg that he doesn't think that at all, and that Greg might not be completely correct in his delusions about the world
>Pete then uses his fifteen minutes of fame to sell a hackneyed self help book for neurotic losers and gimicky neckties
>Greg keeps insisting that Pete is in fact secretly a Nazi that harbours an intense hatred of Greg and everything Greg stands for, and would like to murder Greg and his family, just look at this self help book written directly as a conspiracy against Greg trying to convince Greg that it's all in his head... thats gasslighting. Pete and the Russians and the Nazis and the President of the USA and the CIA and the Ku Klux Klan are all working in tangent to target Greg and make Greg look like some sort of unhinged weirdo
>Greg then invites the worlds foremost marxist philosopher to prove Pete wrong in the debate of a century
>"*sniffffff* look Pete I think Greg is a grimy little freak too but have you ever read Marx..."
>At this point Pete is rich beyond his wildest dreams and blowing through thousands of dollars of cocaine a week, and embarrasses himself trying to talk about a pamphlet he half flipped through in undergrad because he's built his entire career calmly letting Greg make an ass of himself while everybody laughs at what an autistic fucking freak Greg is
>Pete flies to Russia for some much needed rehab. Makes up some BS story about depression to cover for his obvious withdrawal symptoms
>A year later Pete writes another hackneyed self help book to juice out that last bit of grift money and Greg once again looses his shit to the amusement of everybody.

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>>16882984
>Peterson utterly refuted by his own blood

>> No.16885913

>>16882976
stop making threads, we don't want to read your shit and won't buy your books.

>> No.16885922

>>16885749
Women talk like this when they’re being genuine

>> No.16885943

>>16883919
Actually lucent take on the rules.
Not sure if I agree with all points, but interpretation as reactionary is definitely plausible.

I think 9 makes sense as a stand-alone. It's just about exploring your subconscious.

>> No.16886003

Gravity's Rainbow predicted all of this

>> No.16886010

>>16882976
>le they're going to force me to use xir pronouns meme man

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>>16882984
>>16883173
>>16883254

>> No.16886035

>>16883173
Why the hell would you take a photo of yourself in an outfit and pose clearly designed to induce men to jerk off to you right next to your infant daughter? She has to know that, statistically, some guy will beat his meat to a picture with her child in it. What, if anything, is going through women's minds when they take pictures like this?

>> No.16886042

>>16883218
and her father...

>> No.16886055

>>16883174
So number 6 is where Peterstein rails against people who blame the Jews, right?

>> No.16886073

>>16885603
see
>>16883254
Bitch got the leprosy

>> No.16886082

>>16883174
>you cannot blame complex problems on single variables
>single variables
>single
>variables (plural)
Which is it?

>> No.16886268

>>16883174
1) Yes
2) Depends on how you interpret those stories
3) Obviously
4) Yes
5) Too abstract; your conscience can also be the nagging devil
6) Strange wording but okay
7) Yes
8) Maybe
9) Yes, talk therapy can be helpful
10) I guess
11) What?
12) Ok

Why should I read the book?

>> No.16886383

>>16886082
I might blame complex problems on a single variable. You might blame them on a completely different single variable. So, infinite potential variables to be employed but only one operative at one time.

>> No.16886410

>>16884466
Faggot

>> No.16886418

>>16882976
that black cover with the title seems like a parody, of what a punished Peterson would do

>> No.16886439

>>16886418
it's olive drab you colorlet

>> No.16886538

>>16885271
>People, not systems, are primarily at fault for bad things that happen to them - so if someone's house isn't in order, that's on them, and society shouldn't be expected to help or need to be a part of their ordering.
>If people are responsible for their issues, they're also at fault for them. To be successful is a moral good, to be a failure is a sign of moral or personal failings.
>People need to focus on their local, personal life - so when someone fights for policy solutions on systemic issues, you should tell them to sod off because they're wrongly focused


These are all true. Having faith in 21st century politics as a force for emancipation in your life is naive. Moral responsibility is neccesary to function day to day. Discussing policy and government spending to allieviate poverty is rarely conducted at a high level amongst the masses. The best your average joe can do is concern themselves with themselves and their family/friends rather than arcane political solutions.

>> No.16886551

>>16886538
insanely based post
democracy without an ethically capable population underpinning its integrity makes for a self-destructive institution

>> No.16886588

>>16882984
based Andrey

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>>16886538

>> No.16887204

>>16886418
>Punished Peterson
>A man denied his benzos

>> No.16887304

>>16884404
I work 12 hours as a paramedic sometimes 5 days a week and flipping back and forth between working during the day and during the night. I often get extremely tired, to the point where I’ll be falling asleep standing up. It’s during these times when I go to bed I often get horrible bouts of sleep paralysis. It happens usually within the hour of falling asleep.

My sleep paralysis is always one of three different archetypes. The man in a suit, who only watches me. The young boy who slams doors and fucks with me by jumping on top of me, usually shoving things in my ear/mouth. And the worst, a shadowed cloak figure who has complete control of my dream body.

This hooded, shadowed figure can lift my dream body and fly me around the house. It fucks with me mentally. He’s usually accompanied by a buzzing sound, like a chorus of cicadas with a never ending crescendo. Sometimes he lifts me from my bed and spins me around. Sometimes he tries flying me out my window. Usually he forces me to watch scenes unfold in my house. Once I can remember him floating me out my bed and pinning me to the living room floor. He forced me to watch a women run into my house and throw herself on my glass coffee table, shattering it into pieces. She then rubbed the glass shards onto her face and shoved the glass shards into her vagina as it begins to bleed. She then used some sort of video recorder to record herself masturbating.

Once while falling asleep after working a 12 hour night shift, I begin to hear the familiar buzz and realized I couldn’t move, and I knew I was under another bout of sleep paralysis. I try screaming and waking up, but to no avail. I begin feeling my body slow rise, and from my peripheral I can see the hooded figure.

With all my might I was able to shout out in anger something along the lines of “you’re a coward. Show yourself to me!” And in that instance he holds me still. I begin feeling my dream body turn around and to my surprise this hooded figure took on the form of my own father. It wasn’t exactly like him, it was close enough for me to recognize it but dissimilar enough to give a weird uncanny valley impression.

I had to watch in horror as this thing (in the image of my father) walked over and began sucking my dick. It was horrifying. After 30 seconds or so I was able to force myself to wake up, usually by repeated attempts of moving my fingers or toes. I felt absolutely disgusting for a week after that. My gf could tell I was under the weather for a couple days but I had too much shame to tell her truthfully why. How could you tell something like this to anyone? It’s disgusting, there’s no way to tell anyone. It was without a doubt the worst “dream” I’ve had and it will probably stick with me for the rest of my life.

>> No.16887437

>>16883254
Everyone has herpes

>> No.16887739

>>16886082
its the jews obviously

>> No.16887779

>>16887304
Can I have a tl;dr please?

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>>16886410
>>16885650
>>16885189

How is the carnivore diet going, guys?

>>16886035
Same thing here.

>> No.16887814

>>16887779
Sleep demon turned into my father and sucked my dick while I was paralyzed

>> No.16887829

Clean your room and dilate your wound! 12 more pills for life, bucko!

>> No.16887872

>>16887304
Only one thing worked me for bad dreams: dont try to avoid them, try to approact them and hug them. A big warm hug. All it takes.

>> No.16887888

>>16887829
based

>> No.16887902

>>16887304

I mean, if your dreams are too intense and vivid, you could always smoke weed before you go to bed.
I smoked for 10 years and after a very short while, I just stopped dreaming altogether. If I couldn't smoke for a reason or another the dreams would come back and Imwould remember them in every details.

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>>16883254
Pharmacist here. This is misleading. First, if you look at the dates of dispensing and group the meds together by condition (pic related), it makes more sense and looks like a normal therapeutic load. Yes. She has herpes. Probably cold sores. It's really common. She is only take 1 medication for that though since Valtrex (brand) = valacyclovir (generic). Similar thing for Act-amphetamine and Vyvanse. They're not the exact same medication like Valtrex and valacyclovir, but it's not uncommon for physicians and patients to cycle through stimulants until they find one that works for the patient.

>> No.16888181

>>16887902
No. My dreams are sacred. They are the most vivid form of communication with my unconscious self. I do not smoke weed specifically because it neuters my dreams.

>> No.16888220

His daughter seems like a megathot but huge props on her for sticking with her dad through his breakdown.

>> No.16888356

>>16888220
>huge props
for that? really? it's basic shit man anyone should be by their fathers side.
the thing is tho she only hangs around because money and social media fame

>> No.16888378

>>16888220
Huge props to her for holding him in coma prison and using her cucked Russian guy to smuggle him places where she was legally allowed to do such things

>> No.16888383

>>16888181
not him but do people actually have their dreams ruined by weed? I was super high last night and had sleep paralysis within a dream. like I was lying in bed in my dream and got sleep paralysis and thought "shit not here"

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>>16888163
>sometimes used to treat leprosy

>> No.16888403

>>16888181
fuck yeah I quit SSRIs for the same reason but the dreams never came back
they were amazing, I miss them so much

>> No.16888503

>>16883173
So she had bunch of surgeries and a fucked up childhood because of it. I'm guessing that's her way of living it up till her knees fuck off completely. Kinda sad she chose to be this instawhore.
>>16885603
Surgeries

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>>16882976
>Why is it so controversial?
because he didn't used ms paint for the cover

>> No.16888544

>>16888383
Different anon, I was a heavy weed smoker for like a decade and recently stopped due to life circumstances. I didn't really dream, or at least I couldn't remember dreaming most nights. Now after like 2 months of not smoking weed I dream/remember dreaming most nights.

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>>16882984

>> No.16888602

>>16887437
>t. has herpes

>> No.16888659

>beyond order
time to get that penis a little dirty
bucko

>> No.16888671

>>16888524
he didn't write that book someone else just used his likeness

>> No.16888682

>>16887437

Everyone has lips cold sores. Once you are used to them you can feel them coming a couple of hours in advance and kill them right in the bud with shit as cheap as blistex. You get prescribed pharmaceuticals for genital herpes, and fuck no, not everyone has them, you goddamn dirty cunt.

>> No.16888707

>>16883173

I would breed her like a farm animal

>> No.16889514

>>16883174
This is literal nazi fascism. This rhetoric killed millions of jews in WWII and still does today.

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>>16888588
Think about it logically

>> No.16889610

>>16888671
lmao still funny

>> No.16889657

>>16884466
>any social structure is damaging to the human psyche
Where did you get this from lmao

>> No.16889711

>>16883254
>>16888163
I'm a med student and well, I agree with the pharmacist. Her history of autoimmune disorders and some common diseases explain most, if not all, of this drugs.

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>>16883174
only 3 of those are prescriptive rules, the rest are just him describing shit. also the first rule is about establishing order, but the title is 'beyond order'. what the heck JP? what's wrong with you?

>> No.16889744

>>16883015
why do you think this is a both sides thing? there's not point in criticizing the republicans because they aren't doing shit except slowing down the democrats. just because you recognize democrats are crazy doesn't make you a "member of the other team".

>> No.16889779

>>16882984
I can't tell if this is real

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16889924

>>16889657
>Where did you get this from lmao

Simply by living in a society.

>> No.16889951

>>16886082
multiple complex problems need multiple single variables

>> No.16889976

He's one of my favourite comatose thinkers.

>> No.16890063

>>16884711
>the "consoomer" meme is recent, and has practically altered the definition of the word consumer.
>Critique of consumerism has only come into being with a retarded meme
Am I on /lit/?

>> No.16890163

>>16883174
His past actions contradict plenty of these.

>> No.16890232

>>16884466
chomsky pls go

>> No.16890375

>>16883046
Lol this just shows that everyone criticizing him hasn't even read any of his material, you're literally acting like the pissed off Karen's and trannies that hate him just because they were told to. He goes into great detail in his writing that he is wholly opposed to communism and its teachings, and he only has all of those paintings of communist leaders up in his house to remind him of the constant oppressive threat of communism. Maybe do a little research next time before you start talking out of your ass there bucko!

>> No.16890415

>>16884404
I can't remember 99% of my dreams. Once or twice a year I wake up with vague memories of a dream. The most recent one was about taking a financial risk to buy property some place and start a cherry orchard. The one before was about doing taxes. The one before that was about asking to a friend I havent seen in a couple years.

>> No.16890892

>>16884466
>when your opposition is also your best source of advertising
People like you made Peterson a millionaire. He's very grateful you exist to promote him for free.

>> No.16890954

>>16882976
As someone who is actually hard right, I almost certainly agree more with socialists (especially on class issues) than I do with this milquetoast liberal conservative, but there's this emperor's new clothes situation where we all have to pretend he's some kind of extremist and I find it all very embarrassing.
Is this how leftists feel when a Boomer calls Biden a radical socialist?

>> No.16890986

>>16883174
Just like his previous rules, these make sense in a Chinese fortune cookie kind of way. Who would ever agree with the reverse of any of these statements?

>> No.16890989

>>16889514
kek

>>16883174
number 5 seems false. unsure about the rest, although I would agree with some on face value

>> No.16891016

>>16884358
Yeah and poltards that believe in QAnon and satan worshipping pedophiles are mot representative of the right. . .
Oh wait both side have retarded and hateful people on them.

>> No.16891027

>>16884063
Can't really blame him honestly. He's just cashing in on pseudo intellectuals who never had someone to look up to

>> No.16891075

How many times will there be a thread about this book, linking this specific article, referencing the crying publishers?

Gee, it's almost like someone's running a promotional campaign. Do your fucking job mods.

>> No.16891092

>>16891075
you do know that there are no mods on this board right? all your reports go straight to the trash

>> No.16891095

>>16890954
>Is this how leftists feel when a Boomer calls Biden a radical socialist?

>> No.16891100

>>16891095
>>16890954
Meant to say yes. It's exactly like that and why both of us hate "liberals".

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16891102

"Beyond Order?" So he's becoming far-right at last?

>> No.16891251

>>16886035
simp

>> No.16891266

>>16885580
>be careful who you share bad/good news
You mean how to share news? Or even better "here's a good ethical framework"?

>> No.16891269

>>16885749
Decent writing for Instagram imo. The grammar works, sentences aren't too long, and it has paragraph breaks. Good imagery.

>> No.16891277

>>16882993
What the hell it's a real quote

>> No.16891341

>>16885765
wtf are you talking about. you sound retarded

>> No.16891381

>>16882993
This is the kind of shit you keep to yourself Jordan. sheesh

>> No.16891480

>>16884413
yup, the degree of reactions he got made him way more famous than if he was simply left alone. it's like whatever that saying said about how acting out in fear or insecurity can make those insecurities come true

>> No.16891995

>>16883174
I mean it's pretty much all fine advice but this should be common sense to anyone who isn't retarded. As >>16890986 implies it's banal even if it's technically correct.

>> No.16892119

>>16882976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58JqFkR8UYg

>> No.16892518

>>16885640
There was no pronoun laws in canada

>> No.16892723

>>16882976
If you are against publishing a book because you don't agree with the author's ideas, you shouldn't work for a book publishing agency. Simple.

I can't believe how fragile people are. How embarrassing.

>> No.16893502

>>16882976
I'm a big fan of the new 11th rule, will be remembering this one in my day-to-day life for sure.

>> No.16893616

Maybe he should sort himself out. He's a junkie, and his daughter is off the rails. He doesn't even clean his room.

>> No.16893899

>>16892518
Yes there is

>> No.16894004

>>16892119
kek

>> No.16894038

>>16887802
Assuming these are not edits, this woman has to be some kind of succubus.

>> No.16894099

>>16882976
Because trannies and leftists are mentally ill spoilt freaks who usually always get what they want

>> No.16894137

>>16889738
Can someone explain this Merri smoking pipe meme?

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>>16894137

>> No.16894254

wtf i thought he died like a year ago

>> No.16894265

>>16885271
>People, not systems, are primarily at fault for bad things that happen to them - so if someone's house isn't in order, that's on them, and society shouldn't be expected to help or need to be a part of their ordering.
This is a silly interpretation. Taking ownership of small parts of your life is healthy. No one is blaming anyone for their life being shitty. Obsessing over large, abstract, mostly invisible "systems" creates a negative feedback loop where all failure is attributable to it.

>If people are responsible for their issues, they're also at fault for them. To be successful is a moral good, to be a failure is a sign of moral or personal failings.
He has never said this, and I can't stand him.

>People need to focus on their local, personal life - so when someone fights for policy solutions on systemic issues, you should tell them to sod off because they're wrongly focused
They are. All policy changes are to the benefit of the possessor class. Any and all meaningful social change begins at the individual level.

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>>16894210

>> No.16894306

>>16894284
lame

>> No.16894328

>>16886035
You know how women hang out/take photos with their much uglier female friends just to look better in comparison? It's like that, but instead she uses her own daughter.

>> No.16894383

>>16889924
do we?

>> No.16894480

>>16883174

1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12 - shit

10 - ???

5, 9 - alright

>> No.16894494

>>16883015
Uhm, sweaty, if you support Stalin while residing in the US you proabably are brainwashed, that’s beyond Democrat vs republican paradigm

>> No.16894504

>>16886030
I don't hate Peterson like all the lefties on here but it is pathetic how he completely failed as a father.

>> No.16894541

>>16887304
LMAO THIS NIGGA DAD DONE SUCKED HIS DICK

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>>16882976
Peterson's a hack

>> No.16894560

>>16894558
Based. I can’t imagine listening to Penison in 2020, not even ironically

>> No.16894561

>>16894494
So the Americans in the Second World War were all brainwashed, then?

>> No.16894571

>>16894561
that was more of an 'enemy of my enemy' situation. I highly doubt the average American during that time had a high opinion of Stalin himself.

>> No.16894623

>>16894571
Why did they call him ‘Uncle Joe’, then?

>> No.16894629

>>16882976
Fuck all the trannies on this site. Jordan Peterson has delivered the single most articulate and successful defense of reactionary values against hyper modernity.
Group differences? Nailed scientifically and he even dared bring his scientific credibility to bear on matters of iq and race. Iq is the single best predictor of succes too. When coupled that means group differences have extreme significance.
How about Differences in gender Attributable to biologi? Check!
Radical anti feminism? Check!
How about the transcendental? The guy is literally a scientifically tentative traditionalist and through his methodology people are able to approach ourguys like Mircea Eliade or Evola.
Heck Peterson even cites ourguy economist, Wilfredo Pareto, that is radically anti egalitarian.

All of you are just tranny idiots, incapable of understanding anything except the most superficial ad hominem arguments about our main incursion into the mainstream that has been subtly dropping the reddest of pills for so many people. It's like you want to be losers, while the guy subverted nearly every presupposition of modern hegemony.
Clean your room, you will never be a woman.

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16894639

>my name? ...it’s Steel, Joe Steel

>> No.16894716

>>16894629
>Jordan Peterson has delivered the single most articulate and successful defense of reactionary values against hyper modernity.

> but raises a whore daughter

Really makes you think.

>> No.16894726

>>16894716

He probably delivers her a certain something too.

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>>16882984
Now everyone knows you follow ahmedbinsulayem

>> No.16894743

>>16894716
All women are whores. It's literally impossible to raise them any differently.

>> No.16894745

>>16894629
>Iq is the single best predictor of succes too.
this is entirely from the angle of modern society, modern values, etc. etc.
this is why his book is shit and doesn't deal with "life" but "modern westerner bugman career life", it's made with middle-upper class American NEEToids in mind
The only good thing he did was arguing against the use of retarded pronouns and making the trannies seethe

>> No.16894751

>>16882976
It was meant to be controversial. Even our very own outrage and malcontent will be packaged and sold to us by Culture™ those alligned with Peterson will by the book and be outraged that others are hating it. Those that hate the book will buy it and find "problematic" parts to rage about. Now amplify this message and you will begin to understand everything that ad culture and media do. It's psychological and emotional manipulation and it allows the corporate "state" to absorb any significant social movement. The only ones they won't repackage and sell to you is the idea that we could obtain ownership of the media and begin wielding the power to create again.

>> No.16894758

Why the fuck should I follow the rules for life of a man who can't even keep his own life or his daughter's in check?

>> No.16894760

>>16894629
You're a tool of the culture industry. How does it feel to have your political views packaged and fed to you for you to passionately defend a publishing houses source of capital acruement? This is the same emotional consumer reaction as Liberals who buy from BLM or LGBT companies.

>> No.16894770

>>16894743

Peterson would probably want to slap you for saying this, though.

>> No.16894777

>>16894770

>Just imagine bucko
>you come home from work, a rough day. you hang up your coat and in slinks mikhaila, on all fours as she has been all day, caked on make up falling off in bits.
>"daddy, I need..."
>she turns her wide rump to you, pointed up into your face. even clothed it reeks.
>"I need..."
>she's sweating, and clouds of red collect anywhere here pasty, fishlike skin can be seen. you already know what she needs.
>"pls daddy"
>either she drops her pants or they fall on their own, knowing what must happen. begrudgingly you remove your cock, erect out of a sense of duty more than anything else.
>chubby fingers spread the ponderous cheeks, a yellow tinged string of some fluid webs between them, coyly hiding your goal. like the mouth of a hungry baby bird, her anus beckons to you.
>you insert your glans and she begins moaning-- not wholly in pleasure-- and you can feel kernels of corn and other detritus grazing your urethra.
>faster. harder. can't let it escape. if you pull out now, you'll just have to start over.
>you coax the brown beast as mikhaila moans louder, squeezing her sagged breasts in vain. just a little more. fingers clenching ass cheeks. minute farts escaping around your shaft. she's muttering something now, but you're. almost.
>pushed out by a tidal wave of warm, viscous diarrhea. dangling, stained cock a witness to the tsunami of what once was a family sized portion of El Pollo Loco and drinkable yogurt. she's cumming, rubbing her vagina angrily-- but this is no vaginal orgasm: it is a pleasurable relief centered in the bowels, the fresh snow after an avalanche.
>shit continues to pour, now only liquid, from her quivering anus. she thanks you
>"thank you dady" *fart* "oh, thank you so much"
>still on hands and knees, she leaves the way she came, leaving shitty cursive all over the wood floor. you proceed to the sink. in the other room you can hear the unmistakable sounds of a keyboard clacking.

>> No.16894779

>>16882976
Can anyone tell me what the new rules are?

>> No.16894800

>>16894629
>believes absolute truth is derived from darwinism
>starts stuttering and mumbling whenever someone asks him if he believes in god

a true reactionary

>> No.16894821

>>16894779
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

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>>16883015
This is you "thinking"

>> No.16894863

>>16884466
This is the cringiest post I read today

>> No.16894864

>>16894629
This is your brain on Lobsterism

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>>16894863
>This is the cringiest post I read today

>> No.16894897

>>16894821
Wow. Surprisingly based JP. Should've included some media anti-trust laws and initiatives to place national media in the hands of the public, but nice.

>> No.16894906

>>16894890
His parents should be publicly quarteres for not taking that child ti the dentist to correct that underbite.

>> No.16895004

The fact that peterson only gets attention when he causes mass outrage speaks volumes

>> No.16895013

>>16882976
>jordan memerson
>controversial
what in the hell

>> No.16895028

>>16882984
she is an absolute cringe machine
belle delphine levels of cringe slut right here
embarrassing

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>>16882993
>Its real
If this very so relevant to a point he is making that he cant keep it to himself, why not just say "I had a fucked up dream where my grandma raped me". The details are just.. why?

>> No.16895035

>>16885749
women who read really gay fiction books lol
many such cases

>> No.16895292

>>16895033

Holy fucking shit.
The context makes it so much worse.
Fucking Christ all psychology after Freud is absolute shit. Either do introspective psychology a la early Husserl or just make tests on monkeys, but shut the fuck up about the negative avatar of the Grest Mother...

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>>16882984

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>>16886418
He's finally had it with the "post-modern neomarxists". I wanna see an unhinged Peterson desu.

>> No.16895402

>>16895033

This SUCKS.

>> No.16895422

>>16895292
freud is shit

>> No.16895433

>>16895422

Correct. Freud is the point where it all went to shit, should have expressed myself better.

>> No.16895438

>>16884404
I have had multiple dreams where I would be having sex or preforming sexual actions with family members (usually my mother, but to my horror my younger brother would show up sometimes as well). I don’t want to go into details about what I exactly did, but I will say that the sexual part is usually the major event in the dream and that during the dream I’m not aware enough to understand what is actually happening. I always wake up feeling extremely disgusted and ashamed of myself, but overtime I managed to overcome those feelings by recognizing that dreams mean nothing unless I act on them. The only lasting impact is that I hesitate a little when I about to read a hentai doujin featuring incest. My main fetish is voyeurism so I can read almost anything but seeing porn that makes me remember those dreams can make my boner shrivel up and die

>> No.16895443

>>16895320
Honestly that portrait of the boomer is bullshit. Boomers are the laziest fucking people I have ever met. The only reason why they think they "work hard" is because they are retarded and work inefficiently. They can't learn a new thing so they keep doing the same stupid shitty time-wasting mistakes over and over until they manage to hire a millennial who does the work for 1/10th the effort. Then they call them lazy for finishing the job faster and with that excuse they work them to the bone. They don't have one ounce of the competence of a millennial, and without exploiting this younger workforce and taking credit for it they'd be completely, absolutely fucked. If you hire a younger person for manual labor you're almost guaranteed to get a better job done than what a boomer would do unless the boomer has miraculous work ethic. The state of today's world is entirely the product of the incredible laziness of the boomer generation. At least they're getting some payback when their kids raised with their shit ethics lock them up in some institution where they die alone.
Honestly, sincerely, fuck boomers.

>> No.16895474

>>16883919
>7. and 12. are slave morality
I can't tell if this is bait, but if you had actually read Beyond Good and Evil you would know that 7. is the story of N's life and 12. is close to the core tenant of the "free spirits" and "new philosophers". This isn't implying Peterspunk will understand the nuanced difference N saw between that and the moral Christian lineage in terms of life's suffering, but at least he's better than internet pseuds who pretend to know things they don't.

>> No.16895485

>>16884404
I won't for recognizability reasons but it doesn't even qualify as /d/ tier

>> No.16896110

>>16883174
These rules are always the most basic shit and everyone always starts crying over them. It's like they're all stupid stupid children who are mad they are being told to grow up. That or a lot of contest has been stripped.

>> No.16896123

>>16896110
I'm surprised he never said something about firm handshakes.

>> No.16896134

>>16896123
FIRM HANDSHAKE
LOOK EM RIGHT IN THE EYE
WEAR A SUIT

My parents told me to do all this shit at my first interview and the interviewer just laughed at me.

>> No.16896149

>>16896134

Well the firm handshake isn't really a meme. To most boomers it is a huge signifier.

>> No.16896496

>>16894629
what does the inside of the pot look like?

>> No.16896521

>>16883174
My god, someone censor this man.
Those ideas are C Z R A Z Y propaganda.

>> No.16896547

>>16894821
>gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country
Sounds good in theory but in practice everyone just gets a few square feet of grass in front of their house

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>>16883254

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>> No.16896574

>>16895033
Damn, what happened to this guy as a kid?

>> No.16896600

>>16896574
a vaccine gave him autism

>> No.16896807

>>16894639
Hey bunkerchan

>> No.16896841

Every single wet noodle hand I have shaken was that of an employed person, and most of the time that employed person was my interviewer. BULL SHIT

>> No.16896921

>>16896562
The fuck is this bitch talking about, corona doesn't give you bloating or rashes

>> No.16897082

>>16896562
She sounds like she's a typical hypochondriac when she drones on about how she ate certain food and got "sick" for months. She also talks about how one time she smoked weed for months straight after a "bad reaction" to some food. Maybe just maybe, mentally unhinged people and weed don't mix.

Face it, her and her father are both neurotic mental patients.

>> No.16897201

>>16883254
I've taken valtrex for canker sores

>> No.16897209

>>16897082
> she drones on about how she ate certain food and got "sick" for months
I remember one time she and her father got sick, whatever that means, because they both ate an apple. Ironically, after months of horrible symptoms, they were cured by apple cider vinegar. Or maybe it was a potato that they ate

>> No.16897270

>>16897082
In this interview, Jordan trots out 19 year old Mikhaila to Canadian TV to talk about their mental problems, like a show dog. She reveals that her father got her on antidepressants when she was 12. She never had a chance, of course she'd become a thot

https://youtu.be/KqXZY3B-cGo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1WNrnsfb44 (5:15)
Michael Brooks (filthy commie but still a bro, RIP) tore this charlatan apart way before he went into rehab
>So basically, I eat beef jerky, I've turned my class into an induction seminar for weird self-help / borderline fascistic knockoff Jungian theories, I only eat T-bone steaks, and having a glass of cider, if you took me literally, has produced such a state of hysteria in me that's it's actually allowed me to live through the physically impossible. And the conclusion that I draw from all of that as a psychologist is that I should travel the western world and teach young men how to live.

>> No.16898018

>>16897270
>She reveals that her father got her on antidepressants when she was 12
What a fucking piece of shit, doing that will fuck you up for life, and as a doctor Peterson should know that better than anyone.

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>>16882993
yo what the actual fuck

>> No.16898060

>>16894751
This nigger gets it

>> No.16898063

>>16882989
>Its probably a way to drum up easy press for the publisher
The only reason Peterson became a popular public intellectual is because the left is batshit fucking insane. I'm Canadian, I can distinctly remember when he first came to public attention back in 2016 for his stance on tranny stuff, was given massive coverage on CBC. Come to think of it, in retrospect it seems like certain segments of the media were deliberately trying to elevate him, despite the fact that he is ostensibly some sort of villain.

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>>16883174
Wow this is really hard-hitting stuff
Nothing here is really objectionable but what does it say about the state of our culture that this is probably the most famous public intellectual in the western world?

>> No.16898193

>>16886551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnom_ItxaMQ
Reminds me of Gore Vidal saying "you can't expect a democracy from a society like this" after the 2008 election. Democracy is only sustainable when you have a reasonably moral, skeptical, adult population. The collapse in the quality of the average human being in the west that began after WWII was always going to lead to some sort of authoritarianism. Peterson recognizes that on some level and is trying to counteract it, I guess, even if he is a hypocrite.

>> No.16898225

>>16895433
What made psychology before Freud good?

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>>16884466
>Ok, some content, let's do this!

>> No.16898646

>>16894284
based

>> No.16898768

>>16883015
Well, there's a reason the Founders restricted the vote so much.
Beyond that, as far as I can tell, only one side of this 'both sides' dilemma derives its politics by watching the Daily Show

>> No.16899067

>>16898063
>in retrospect it seems like certain segments of the media were deliberately trying to elevate him
that's exactly what happened
anyone who watches Peterson talk when it's not someone provoking him and gets angry at a guy who nerds out on Jung and Dostoevsky has nothing going for themselves

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>>16882976
Reminder that approximately 10 people read his first book. And only 3 of those 10 browse /lit/.

>> No.16899286

yo /lit/ my hoes got zizek on their podcast fuck this thread and watch/listen to this instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvHX0QOF-bc

>> No.16899527

>>16891092
Wrong, I recently got a warning (which was justified).

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>>16894265
Massive devil's advocate incoming:

>No one is blaming anyone for their life being shitty
Leftist:
>JP DOES blame individuals. This is a a necessary consequence of individualized ownership of responsibility in the way you've described.

This is because if it wasn't primarily a system at fault for making someone's life shitty, the shittiness MUST have a primary source, for which he argues you have three options:

>Happenstance (nobody's fault, e.g a natural flood or fire or medical accident)
Systems at fault again - not every individual is rich enough to mitigate issues themselves with stuff like insurance, and wide swaths are outside the reach of current social safety nets. Calling people personally responsible in these circumstances willfully ignores that societies ought to owe a duty of care for people screwed-by-chance as it equally could've been you.

>Other Individuals
Leftist will chase down whys because he thinks most conflicts emerge from systems:
>issue with your boss? Why? Did you PERSONALLY bestow institutional power on him, or was it one of many systems (systematic destruction of union power, hierarchical offices, capitalism), that gave him the power to make your life shitty?
>issues with your spouse or family? Why, what's the root? Is it money? Capitalism's a system. Is it not money? Don't be so sure. Capitalism is atomizing society, which is breaking apart the family and alienating friends, children, and coworkers from each other

>Themselves or "Yeah, it is systems"
Which is just conceding the point.

Next point:
>all failure can be looping attributable to systems
Leftist:
>not all, but the absolute majority is - what you see as a feedback loop is really just the result of "a thousand issues that emerge from the system."

Next point:
>He has never said " To be successful is a moral good, to be a failure is a sign of moral or personal failings."
Leftist argues when you believe failure "mostly" emerges from disordered houses, people aren't rational: they'll naturally draw probabilistic negative character inferences against ANYONE who fails, which just makes them fail harder - which would mean JP believes advocate kicking people while they're down, and sounds an awful lot like historic racism and sexism.

>All policy changes benefit of the possessor class
>social change begins at the individual level.
Leftist:
>Yes, social change starts with individuals - BUT changes are implemented at the societal level, because LAWS, not individuals, are the meaningful unit of measuring and enforcing societal changes.
>Policy like antitrust and business-expensive environmentalist legislation like the green new deal obviously oppose "possessor classes" by increasing operating expenses to protect the environment, so whatever definition of policy you're going with is flawed if it doesn't include it

>> No.16901641

>>16883015
Man. If the founders could see the consequences of the revolution they'd be kowtowing before king George without question

>> No.16901668

>>16884466
The most burgeois post on /lit/

>> No.16901682

>>16883919
Read N again. You're misunderstanding slave-morality

>> No.16901788

>>16898018
He is not a doctor, he is a psychologist.

>> No.16901889

>>16898096
Becouse of censorship many greatminds of this day are not heard. Only shabo goys are allowed with their kosher "ideas" go mainstream

>> No.16901998

>>16883005
It really is, I can't understand why anybody other then a small fringe of internet losers would genuinely be mad about this book being published.

>> No.16902234

>>16901788
Can he prescribe drugs? I can't imagine a real doctor giving the ok to prescribing a pre-teen on SSRIs or whatever happy pills Mikhaila was on. I wonder if he prescribes drugs to himself

>> No.16902244

>>16888163
>>16889711
Ye ye sure its totally normal. Codein, ssri, adderall and other amphetamines that's totally a healthy and normal medication for a young mother. Who doesn't remember that time with 20 when one was in constant pain and couldn't get out of bed without speed. I think i remember her saying somewhere that she was taking Tramadol too for a long time. People like her clearly have Münchhausen syndrome and lie to get pills

>> No.16902266

>>16899070
I have have read it. He’s ultimately hamstrung by materialism, which cannot be reconciled with Jungian psychology and the theory of the Collective Unconscious. Still, it’s an interesting book.

>> No.16903153

Tranny here. I'm listening to jordan peterson's event at australia. Why does he talk about africa so much?
Isn't he a conservative (racist)?
And why does he say nazis are bad? He did say the leftists are nazi though.
Why does he talk about bullies being bad? Aren't conservatives the ones that love bullying people? They're the ones that say racial slurs etc.

Why does he say poverty is being eliminated and that's a good thing? Don't conservatives want people to be poor?

Why does he say that it's amazing that china is making so many engineers? Doesn't he hate china because he's conservative?

So many contradictions in his ideology. He even believes in climate change and saving the environment. Which makes no sense for a right winger.

I see his appeal though. He explains things in simple and easy to understand terms.

>> No.16903173

mandatory shill check: peterson good

>> No.16903193

>>16903173
he hates leftists but acts like a leftist. v sus

>> No.16903199

>>16903153
You aren't a real tranny

>> No.16903207

>>16903193
how can he left when left hate him
how can he right when right hate him
i'm saying it now, prepare: it's because he's based

>> No.16903220

>>16899070
>Approximately 10 people read his first book
It's like a 1000 page dissertation meta-analyzing how literature approximates spiritual experience. You can't fault anyone below the most dedicated readers in the most esoteric subjects for not wanting to read it. From what I have read even some of the professors he works with who reviewed it for him came away saying "What the fuck is this?"

I haven't read it so I can't comment on it, but there's a fine-line between profundity and deranged schizo-posting, and I don't have confidence that Peterson is in the former camp.

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>>16903207

>> No.16903249

>Hey goy arrive 15 mins before and 15 mins after hours
>maybe shekelberg will see your hard work and give you raise or a promotion
Why does he say this?

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>>16882984
>He practices sword work

>> No.16903280

>From July 1993 to June 1998,[1] Peterson lived in Arlington, Massachusetts, while teaching and conducting research at Harvard University as an assistant professor in the psychology department. During his time at Harvard, he studied aggression arising from drug and alcohol abuse and supervised a number of unconventional thesis proposals.[9] Two former PhD students, Shelley Carson, a psychologist and teacher from Harvard, and author Gregg Hurwitz, recalled that Peterson's lectures were already highly admired by the students

Harvard? Why did they hire this retard?
I thought harvard was amazing.

>> No.16903292

>>16882976
Someone needs to write a comedy about him. Writes about self discipline-is openly a slob who can’t keep it together, jumps on family values bandwagon-daughter becomes an internet slut, starts hyping keto as a healthy lifestyle-almost dies a couple times. This guy is hilarious.

>> No.16903299

I'm not gonna read the whole thread.

So, in the end, is he a nazi that should be cancelled for hate speech?

>> No.16903311

>>16903299
Yes. the first step to becoming a nazi is washing your penis.

>> No.16903322

>>16894284
Based and wholesomepilled

>> No.16903329

>>16903299
yes

>> No.16903342

>>16903236
cope harder anti-peterson scum. baka

>>16903280
>Two former PhD students, Shelley Carson, a psychologist and teacher from Harvard, and author Gregg Hurwitz, recalled that Peterson's lectures were already highly admired by the students
"why did they hire this retard"

>> No.16903347

>>16903280
Maybe he's a great teacher? Teaching skills do not correlate with originality of thought.

>> No.16903350

>>16903299
no he's a lame Jungian traditionalist who does self-help stuff and is popular because SJWs are bad

>> No.16903358

>>16903347
harvard is nothing to sneeze at though. You have to be the top of humanity. And he's average. His thoughts are average. He's not special. I don't see a quickness or sharpness in him.

>>16903342
you act like a tranny

>> No.16903381

>>16903358
why would a trans person like JBP

>> No.16903416

>>16903381
ask yourself

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>>16903416
seethe

>> No.16903481

>>16903350
He lets his daughter dress up badly and took drugs which was the exact thing he was warning against his whole life. When tells people to sort themselves out, he's probably telling himself the same thing

>> No.16903500

normal person
>Who's this guy. That was a neat youtube video. I may watch some more of these. This guy seems reasonable enough

twitter woman
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M MAD ABOUT WHAT HE SAID IN THIS VIDEO I HAVEN'T WATCHED YET HE'S A MISOGYNIST AND A RACIST AND THE OTHER THING I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE TOO NOOOOOOOOOO CANCEL HIM!!!!! I LIKE TO TAKE PART IN MOBS BECAUSE IT GIVES ME A SENSE OF BELONGING ARGGGGHHH I'M ANGRY ABOUT THE SAME THING THE MOB IS ANGRY ABOUT!!!!!!!! AS A WOMAN I GET OFF ON THE EMOTIONAL SURGE OF IMPOSING ORTHODOXY ON THE TRIBE

twitter user
>umm like idk lol im not upset about peterson or anything lol im like idk too cool for that lmao you can tell by my lower-case posting persona that im too cool to take part in the histrionic reaction to this peterson guy but i'll go along with the crowd anyway and make snide effeminate comments like "peterson, muh sjws amirite lol" so that i always have plausible deniability that i'm butthurt but im obviously just butthurt, btw i dated a girl for two years and we said we were a polyamorous couple but what this really meant is she freely cheated on me and i still paid for the lion's share of our rent lol

normal person on /lit/
>Who is this guy again? Oh yeah. He seems alright, a bit milquetoast for my liking but I suppose it's good that normies are getting some harmless life advice. Shame about the benzo addiction, hope he's alright.

tranny twitter tourist on /lit/
>lol peterson muh sjws amirite

>> No.16903513

>>16903381
Because you need to wash what's left of your pp twice as much post-op.

>> No.16903577

>>16903347
Harvard doesn't care about teaching. It's a research-based institution. Most professors were mediocre at best, with a few shining stars.

>>16903280
He never received tenure. This isn't that amazing. A lot of academics go through for a couple of years, especially in large fields like psych and econ.

>> No.16903622

>>16882993
Dreams are not meant to be shared with anyone but someone you consider to be very close. I’m interested in the follow up analysis of this dream if he gives one.

He was very close with her, obviously, and considered her to be a creative woman and a great teacher. He saw her as a safe person to be with, loving and kind. Did she raise him? She was obviously motherly.

>> No.16903641

>>16885364
fuck off you retarded serb offshoot

>> No.16903775

>>16882976
>listening to a washed out junkie pseud that raised a std infested coal burner BPD daughter for life advice
shiggy diggy

>> No.16903778

>>16886035
women compete with each other all the time. you have to be pretty in every photo to not hurt your own ego

>> No.16903846

>>16903622

Read the page in which the quote appears.
It's entire purpose is to cement the idea that the jungian archetype of femininity also has a negative side, which is rape and murder and general horribleness.
There is no possible further analysis here, because Peterson lacks entirely an introspective framework which would allow him to treat his dreams as pure individual phenomenon. For him, they are like 'old stories', already buried in you. Their purpose is to confirm his pre established worldview.

>> No.16903863

>>16903500

Normal person
> Why would I listen to self-help from someone who couldn't help himself or his daughter?

Ftfy.

>> No.16904732

>>16901998
>a small fringe of internet losers
It's called incel.