/lit/ - Literature

that fetus thing was god wasn't it?

It's a commentary on Feminism

THE NEXT STEP IN HUMAN EVOLUTION

babies are a social construct

>>1683690

The next step in human evolution is a space baby?

So if he's all evolved and advance why does his ghost or whatever show up in 2010 looking exactly like he did before?

It was a commentary on the savagery of abortion in an advanced society.

>>1683697
stop being a god damn retard

>>1683698
abortions are a lot less savage in advanced societies than in primitive ones i would think

that sounds awesome never had the time to read that one

>>1683707
It's all baby-killing, there's not really a difference.

>>1683716
I don't know..if i rip a 9 month old fetus out of the woman with a nailed up baseball bat it would be more savage than the pretty clean, efficient medical procedure that goes on these days.

>>1683729
It's more brutal, yes, but the killing of the baby in itself is a savage act.

>>1683697

No one has an answer? For real?

He learned all the knowable knowledge in the universe and became the final stage of possible evolution.

starchild is the next evolutionary leap

>>1683690
Well, that.
He's a child of the stars now, which is why the last chapter is called "Star Child".
The film makes it somewhat confusing, the book pretty much lays it out on the table for you.

>>1684120
this

I'm guessing OP just saw the movie and came here pretending he read the book

>>1684123

That's what I thought too. I found it to be pretty damn obvious in the book.

>>1684120
The book and the film were made in conjunction with one another though, so they're kind of companions.

>>1683697
It took us three million years to get from monkeys who were literally shown how to use tools into humans. It would probably take him longer than ten years to do a whole ton if he were to physically evolve further, but that's moot anyhow as in the fucking book it says that the ones who made the monoliths had long since stopped using physical bodies themselves and simply were intelligence inhabiting the cosmos.

Are you talking about the book or the movie? We're on /lit/, so I would assume the book but you posted a picture of the movie poster so I don't know.

Anyway. Bowman goes through the monolith orbiting Jupiter. It acts as a kind of wormhole/tunnel through space and time to whatever place it is the creators of the monoliths want the species that discover them to end up. It dumps him out in that simulated hotel room. He falls asleep, and while he's asleep his mind/personality/soul/whatever is scanned and he's transformed into one of the noncorporeal beings who control the monoliths.

The fact that he takes the form of an infant signifies that he's a new member of this transcendent species and he's still unsure of what to do with his newfound power and freedom.

money + monolith(evolution booster) = human

computer + monolith (evolution booster) = A.I sentient computer

human + monolith (evolution booster) = space baby

>>1684127
I'm aware, the film's release actually predated that of the book by several months.

I just read the book last week, and then watched the film the next day.

Incidentally, what is the next Clarke I should read?

>>1684127

Not really. From Kubrick himself:

>"It's a totally different kind of experience, of course, and there are a number of differences between the book and the movie. The novel, for example, attempts to explain things much more explicitly than the film does, which is inevitable in a verbal medium. The novel came about after we did a 130-page prose treatment of the film at the very outset. This initial treatment was subsequently changed in the screenplay, and the screenplay in turn was altered during the making of the film. But Arthur took all the existing material, plus an impression of some of the rushes, and wrote the novel. As a result, there's a difference between the novel and the film."

>>1684140
A Fall of Moondust.

>>1684140

All of the sequels to 2001 - 2010, 2061, and 3001, in that order obviously.

>>1684140
Childhood's End. so delicious

>>1684145
Well, I had planned on those. 2010 is checked out at the library, but I'm next in line for it.
Thanks to you and,
>>1684143
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>>1684147
Oh, you too.

>>1684145
Also watch the 2010 movie. It's not bad at all.

>>1684152
Straightedge, are you horny for scifi or contemporary lit in general?
Expand your horizons to a little david foster wallace, you'll thank you and me.

It's the longest music video set to Beethoven that I've ever witnessed.