/lit/ - Literature

>>16834860
Where was he wrong? (Aside from pushing a woman down the stairs.)

>>16834860
>We must imagine Schopenhauer happy

>>16834860
Idc I still like to fuck them and get my dick sucked by them. Just use their holes for pleasure and stop thinking so hard about them.

>>16834860
I just saw this image posted on /mu/

>>16834860
>(Aside from pushing a woman down the stairs.)
This wasn't even wrong desu. He told her to shut up three times before he did. People have done more for less.

>>16835013
Meant for >>16834875

>>16835013
Did he really push a woman down the stairs? I thought the worst he did was leave some chick after he knocked her up

>>16835020
Yeah he did. He ended having to pay her some amount per month until she died.

>>16834875
Well, women were the fundamental, silent reformers of education, unions, and child labor laws, all things we take for granted in today's world, and all things which require a sense of justice and a working knowledge of society and the politics in current play. So for someone who's primary relationships with women were prostitutes (seriously; he solicited sex most of his life) I'd say his opinions are shallow and ignorant at best and just good ol' 19th century biased sexism at worst.

Pic is of Hypatia, the Hellenistic Neoplatonist philosopher, astronomer, and mathematician. Do you think Schopenhauer would have been part of the Christian mob that stoned her to death with roof tiles?

>>16835066
>women were the fundamental, silent reformers of education, unions, and child labor laws, all things we take for granted in today's world, and all things which require a sense of justice and a working knowledge of society and the politics in current play.
CITATION NEEDED

>be very concerned about human trafficking and what kind of men pay for it
>incel forum which pays for sex will in a couple centuries use your essay as a justification that whoredom ought to be extended to all women as a joyous thing
I think Schopenhauer was probably not as upset as he should have been, but I don't think he was happy.

>>16835066
>cunts with petty power are the problem
Knew that thanks.

>>16835042
Should have paid someone to make her die faster.

>>16835097
Since when does /lit/ ask for source?

Well, these three books should do you good.

>>16835150
Got it! You would stone Hypatia!

>>16835066

Name 5 women philosophers of genuine renown

Btw if she looked like that I would definitely rape her

>dissimulation
what german words did he use here, does anyone know?

>>16835167
>A People's History of the United States

>>16835167
>unironically a peoples history of the united states
>quotes that polemic piece of shit with a holier than thou complex
dropped. not even mysoginist.
>>16835066
and even invokes simplistic narritives like Hypatia.

the Womens movements of the19th century were an interelated gestalt occurance that largely can be traced to earier expanded zeitgeists like libetalism. They were “fundemental” in that they were novel reaplications of such processes that were already firmly established trends and were occasionally actually laudable in their feild instead of just getting modern pitty points. Anyways your whole first point sounds rather facile and meaningless sloganisms.

there were legitimately great women as individuals, like maria Mitchel, but your narrative is somewhat a fabricated one.

>>16835066
>>16835066
>Some buttnaked neoplatonist thot
I'd stone that whore good.

>>16835066
gib me milkies neoplatonist mommy

>>16835066
Cool now show some examples you dumb bitch

>>16835066
>arguing and organising for gimmedats for women requires a sense of justice

Do none of you love your mother? I agree with Schopenhauer, but he's a philosopher. You're all just edgy faggots in here.

>>16836395
ate women, 'cept ma mam, she's the exception

>>16836395
This, it's hard to believe anyone with a mother, sister, aunt, woman friend, girlfriend, wife, woman boss, woman co-worker, woman supervisor, woman neighbor, woman student, woman teacher, woman stranger, woman one-night-stand, woman author, woman readers, woman muse, woman sex worker, woman streamers, woman lgbtq+, woman deity/deities, woman guardian, woman thinkers, and woman dogs could possible believe Schopenhauer's shit about women.

>>16835066
ahhh okay that explains why all those things are so fucked, thank you

>>16834860
Well, in our age both woman and men have those characteristics. Some men are like that, and some woman are like that. There is a lot of narcissistic men in academia that behave like that, they need to show how smart they are every fucking colloquium, making the speaker feel uncomfortable, talking shit about things they don't know and haven't studied properly.

>>16836480
why the fuck it posted this pictured, I didn't selected anything.

>>16835020
you say that like being pushed down the stairs is worse than being impregnated and then the father just leaves you

>>16835066
>Do you think Schopenhauer would have been part of the Christian mob that stoned her to death with roof tiles?
Probably not, Schopenhauer was a fedora tipper. Pagans killed Hypatia anyway, not Christians.

>>16834947
Kek

>>16835196
Not before fucking her Jesus Christ I'm not a monster.

>>16834860
Its hard for me to imagine him laughing writing it. Take the excerpt in OP's picrel. Its an honest reflection that tries to get at the heart of something. I think such things only have humor or an added layer of attraction to us because we live in a thoroughly degenerated age in which common sense statements are shocking. If you reflect, I think you will find that the humor you derive from it is largely a sort of shock humor born of what you think others would think of it.

>>16835167
kys

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2598159/
read this paper and tell me if women should have rights

>>16836395
my mom is clearly an exception

>>16835066

>>16836395
Your relationship with your mother is unique and not in anyway a paragon of the relationship you will have with the rest of the female population, to think it somehow can be used as a way of understanding or interacting with women in general is folly. The relationship mothers have with their children don't apply to what Shopenhauer is saying here, as all of those skill sets are a means to an end, that end being the offspring. I would never understand people who use the "you have a mom, right?" argument against any critisism of women as if the interaction between a mother and her children is not something wholly distinct.

>>16835066
>fundamental
Now that's just not-
>silent
How convenient for your thesis

>>16835250
Propose an alternative then! Can't spread the good word if you don't share it!

>>16835254
You got an alternative for Peoples? Share it!

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the Womens movements of the19th century were an interelated gestalt occurance that largely can be traced to earier expanded zeitgeists like libetalism. They were “fundemental” in that they were novel reaplications of such processes that were already firmly established trends and were occasionally actually laudable in their feild instead of just getting modern pitty points.

And what is your source for this nice word salad?

>>16838112
Only paraphrasing what I've read. I'd post the paragraphs, but I did not anticipate ever debating this subject when I encountered rating about it a few years ago; it was just part of the history discussed, not the feature point.

>>16835254
This whole post made me dizzy. How do you end up on /lit/ with a writing like that?

>>16838191
The US has no history. You're basically still a toddler.

>>16836451
My mom is a narcissistic cunt. Women are only good when you can pay them.

>>16838727
>lol we're so much older than you!
>borders, constitution, and government defined after 1945

>>16838202
>>16838191
I'm not involved in this conversation, but because you keep asking about alternatives: literally any primary source, ever. Federalist papers, The Constitution, The Declaration of Independence, speeches by presidents, books by presidents, diaries of Civil War generals, court cases, etc. It shouldn't be that difficult you fucking illiterate retarded nigger.

>>16836451
Too many stupid women in our lives granted total authority over families and institutions by a hostile government... this is exactly how we know Schopenhauer is right.

You are an emasculated bugman, a tranny, or a woman. Those are all the options. That's the demographic boundary around this gay NPR opinion.

>>16835234
"Verstellung", noun for "sich verstellen".

>>16836451
>>16836395
I have a mother, 3 sisters, multiple aunts, nieces, and sister in laws. Everything he says is true.

>>16836395
It's bad because the way my mom behaves affirms most of the shit he writes about and I can't unread it.

>>16836451
>woman sex worker, woman streamers, woman lgbtq+, woman deity/deities, woman guardian, woman thinkers, and woman dogs

>>16836451
>sex worker
Sex isn't work, you dumb incel.

>>16838941
technically it is. Anything you do is work, as it expends energy in moving an object, in this case, your hips.

>>16838976
based

>>16838058
kek

>>16835066
They hate you because you speak the truth.

>>16835167
A peoples history is factual. Thats all I ask for in a historical text. Maybe it is subversive, good literature often is.

>>16838767
Here you go. Every Primary Source cited in A Peoples History. Make up your own mind and then compile them into a better book.

>>16835066
no wonder that whore was executed

>>16835042

OBIT ANVS, ABIT ONVS

>>16838757
You just prove that US citizens have no concept of history. It fits, children have no concept of history neither.

>>16838941

>>16836451
It's the exact opposite. The more women were around you when you grew up the more you'll agree with Schopenhauer. Women do a great job at masking their image in public, but in direct family and private relationships they become manipulative bitches.

>>16836451

>woman boss
>woman co-worker
>woman supervisor

Woman is as varied and mystical a classification as human. Any attempt to craft a monolith of shared values will only ever serve to distinguish the outliers and cause the dogmatic to think themselves fools upon meeting an ever greater variety of humanity.