/lit/ - Literature

>>16820653
Good books, cut the birth control or whatever that is. The solution to technocapital is outbreeding the machines, femanon

>>16820663
based

>>16820653
ritalin/10

>>16820663
I won't be a femanon if I stop taking the pills uwu

Why yes, I do prefer Negarestani's middle period, how could you tell?

>piling your books

do zoomers really?

>>16820699
>implying stack threads haven't been a thing for ages

>>16820699
The correct term is stacking

>>16820815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPDnKj6NkIk
based toadstacking fren

>>16820815
pol pls

>>16820826
That's so mean :(

>>16820828
>pol
>white tree frog
based

>>16820831
It doesn't hurt them, it's just for the stack

>>16820845
I know, just the struggle at the beginning is what makes me feel bad.

>>16820653
Is Fanged Noumena an actually readable book? Or is it just a collection of psychotropic ramblings?

>>16820858
It's a meme

>>16820858
it's for spooking philosophy nerds

>>16820858
you tell me

>>16820858
Most of it is actually readable, especially if you're well versed in philosophy.

Don't listen to >>16820862 or >>16820887 . Of the over 600 pages, only ~30-50 are the type of stuff seen in >>16820887 .

>>16820893

>>16820904
That whole chapter is like 16 pages or so, if I remember. Also, if you ignore the retarded formatting, it does have something to say.

>>16820910

>>16820893
Some fag in your pic

>getting filtered this hard by some postmodern experimental aesthetics
I dont know why FN is so hard for people to get. Nicky gives it away at the end of Circuitries. He's a horror writer in a philosopher's clothing. The crap in hypervirus, x-coda, etc. are just aesthetic representations of language being mechanized, broken down to meaninglessness, and schizophrenized. This is supposed to be shocking, because mind is linguistic, and its meaning dissolving via oversaturation would lead to schizophrenia, which is a rather unpleasant way to die. This is the lovecraftian aspect of the book, Nicky is trying to simulate a kind of madness and make it believable that this is the inevitable future.

>>16820958
shut the fuck up and make me a sandwhich

>>16820982
have sex, tranny

>>16820988
I did, with your mom last night lol

>>16820904
>>16820887
so is this kinda like parts of Gravity's Rainbow and William. S. Burroughs stuff?

>>16820958
Haven’t read the book, but your comment here is making me really want to. It actually sounds kind of terrifying from that perspective.

>>16821009
>sees picture of a woman
>immediately starts acting cuckedly

>>16821014
if you just could feel the touch of a woman just ONE time in your life you wouldn't seethe in rage at the sight of them. Just ONE time. And the worst part is that it's your own fault.

>>16821000
Land was influenced by Burroughs, yes.

>>16820684
cringe

>>16820848
they're cane toads and he's Australian. He probably killed the toads after because they're an invasive species that needs to be eradicated.

>>16821148
what makes it cringe

grow up

>>16820653
love this picture, do u still wear hoodies c:

>>16820887
Hypervirus is actually good

>>16820887
>>16820904
not an argument, I'm not a Landian by any measure but some of his essays contained in Fanged Noumena are very insightful and display his deep understanding of the subject matter and his ability to synthesize distinct disciplines. "Kant, Capital and the Problem of Incest" and "Shamanic Nietzsche" are bosses of Kantian and Nietzschean philosophy respectively, you need a very good understanding of the material to make sure you won't get filtered by these essays. plus weird formatting was very popular in late 90s/early 00s

>>16820893
Stop lying accfag
>>16820858
It's pseud shit for trannies. Or did you not notice the OP pic?

>>16820958
>Nicky
lmao fuck off accfag.

>>16820858

this
>>16820862
>>16820887

>>16820887
>>16820904
finnegans wake: disenfranchised white incel edition

>>16820982
Bbbbbbbased

>>16821829
Now I am... enlightened

>>16820858
This os what got me into good ol Nicky. Still one of the best things I've ever read

"I wiped the blade against my jeans and walked into the bar. It was mid-afternoon, very hot and still. The bar was deserted. I ordered a whiskey. The barman looked at the blood and asked:

‘God?’

‘Yeah.’

‘S’pose it’s time someone finished that hypocritical little punk, always bragging about his old man’s power…’

He smiled crookedly, insinuatingly, a slight nausea shuddered through me. I replied weakly:

‘It was kind of sick, he didn’t fight back or anything, just kept trying to touch me and shit, like one of those dogs that try to fuck your leg. Something in me snapped, the whingeing had ground me down too low. I really hated that sanctimonious little creep.’

‘So you snuffed him?’

‘Yeah, I’ve killed him, knifed the life out of him, once I started I got frenzied, it was an ecstasy, I never knew I could hate so much.’

I felt very calm, slightly light-headed. The whisky tasted good, vaporizing in my throat. We were silent for a few moments. The barman looked at me levelly, the edge of his eyes twitching slightly with anxiety:

There’ll be trouble though, don’tcha think?’

‘I don’t give a shit, the threats are all used up, I just don’t give a shit.’

‘You know what they say about his old man? Ruthless bastard they say. Cruel…’

‘I just hope I’ve hurt him, if he even exists.’

‘Woulden wanna cross him merself,’ he muttered.

I wanted to say ‘yeah, well that’s where we differ’, but the energy for it wasn’t there. The fan rotated languidly, casting spidery shadows across the room. We sat in silence a little longer. The barman broke first:

‘So God’s dead?’

‘If that’s who he was. That fucking kid lied all the time. I just hope it’s true this time.’

The barman worked at one of his teeth with his tongue, uneasily:

‘It’s kindova big crime though, isn’t it? You know how it is, when one of the cops goes down and everything’s dropped ’til they find the guy who did it. I mean, you’re not just breaking a law, your breaking LAW.’

I scraped my finger along my jeans, and suspended it over the bar, so that a thick clot of blood fell down into my whisky, and dissolved. I smiled:

‘Maybe it’s a big crime,’ I mused vaguely ‘but maybe it’s nothing at all…’ ‘…and we have killed him’ writes Nietzsche, but—destituted of community—I crave a little time with him on my own.

In perfect communion I lick the dagger foamed with God’s blood."

>>16821890
Gay

>>16821829
Made me chuckle, hope it's real

>>16820778
i really, really like this pic

>>16821829
>Flipflop on your mother's ashes
why

>>16820958
>He's a horror writer in a philosopher's clothing.
This is a shame actually since his position is that of the lone antagonist in the field of all the lefty accfags.
It should take some prudent autist to rewrite his theories and stand point in a "scientific" form that can temper itself and not indulge in fun posting and tangential refrence ramblings.

>>16821829
In high school an English teacher announced to the class I was reading Atlas Shrugged, like he was proud of me. One of the most embarassing moments of my life.

>>16820653
>Birth control
>Feminism
Fuck off. When you're 40 and a cat lady, you're gonna regret it.

>>16820653
There's something about this picture that I love, you cool fella, u cool.

>>16821890
This is cringe as fuck, literal Deviantart tier.

>>16823303
No she won't because machines would make us immortal and beautiful 4 ever.

>>16820958
this is one of the only posts I've seen here from someone who understands land's writings. doubly so because you point out it's not difficult to get. most of the accfags and antiaccfags on lit and twitter are clueless, and land plays them all like a fiddle - ironically if his writing wasn't so widely misconstrued, it would have been ineffective in its aim to spread horror

El Platón

>>16820958
>>16823354
Spoken like people who have never read Nick Land's horror fiction. It's fucking awful. He is NOT primarily a horror author, he is much better at philosophy.

>>16823438
His philosophy is better, I'd agree, but everything he does is under the guise of horror.

>>16823438
nope. his philosophy is horror fiction. his horror fiction is fiction within fiction. land is only doing the same thing as kierkegaard here, but without explicit naming of his characters.
in the same way climacus or johannes the seducer etc. are fictional characters who produce philosophical tracts or themselves produce fictional stories, and their relationship to kierkegaard's own views can only be brought out in their relation to one another - land does the same, and the closest you can get to bringing out his real philosophical views are that he does not believe there has been advancement in metaphysics since kant
>>16822459
I've half tempted to do this but it would probably be more along the lines of a non-theory-fiction exposition of his writing techniques followed by the way his various "philosophies" play with each other within his "lore". you can probably strip that away to get at the ways in which you might take his fictional philosophies seriously

>>16823539
this is a shitty take lol read more Land, especially his early stuff

>>16820681
i am intrigued, please show me.

>>16820681
>I won't be a femanon if I stop taking the pills uwu
You will never be a femanon.

>>16820653
>>16820681
You're not a woman.

>>16820681
You are a real woman and you are valid

>>16821829
i've seen this pic 10 times already

>>16823901
No.

>>16823666
it's even more explicit in the early stuff, satan

>>16821000
Burroughs, perhaps. Pynchon was never this incoherent

>>16820653
You will never be a real woman, faggot.

>>16823354
>most of the accfags
lmao hi accfag

>>16820958
it isn't shocking and it isn't scary. you fucked up Nick.

>>16823942
What is horror philosophy about a feminist uprising to destroy inequality in Africa? Are you some sort of alt-right skeptic twitch streamer or something

>>16820681
You will never pass

>>16824084
hi I am here

>>16820681
You will never be a woman, no matter how much estrogen you take. You will never have a vagina, any the only reason you want to be a woman is because you are deeply mentally ill.
If you accept that it is just a fetish for you, which it likely is, you may still be able to be a normal and somewhat adjusted individual. If you don't, you will always just be the disgusting freak that everyone pities and only is nice to because their life will be ruined by the jews running the media if they say what they are thinking.

>>16820858
Nope, it is for pseuds with a weak grasp on reality, and mentally ill men that have convinced themselves they can somehow turn into a woman or something.

>make bait post where trans meds are in the photo
>literally no one cares for 80% of the thread
>all of the sudden, after someone replies to it, a bunch of neg comments come in
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>>16823874
>>16824105
>>16823966
I thought you guys hated trannies but it seems like the bigots have resorted to astroterfing

>>16820681
don't listen to the pseuds
Roman emperor Elagabalus (d. 222) preferred to be called a lady (rather than a lord), and sought sex reassignment surgery

HE'S LITERALLY IN THE WHITEHOUSE

Land has access to the looking glass, sort of a time machine but not really a time machine.

Think something like a warehouse with 100,000 HDD's containing every single recorded action of every single human being via the E ch E lon data harvesting network, now combine that with a warehouse with 100,000 high end GPU's funneling all their processing power into a single computer that can calculate every possible action/non-action using all the data from the HDD warehouse, with a predictability rate that's very accurate at 90-95%

Now combine all that shit above with a high end oculus rift VR unit that's like a full-body suit on a 3-D treadmill and you basically have something like a time machine, but obviously you can't interact and change events, but you can basically observe future events to nearly perfect accuracy. Imagine the things you could do with that capability? Maybe spam twitter all day and samefag /lit/ into oblivion i dunno...

>>16820684
I remember using that Sipser's book anon for a theory course.
Quite easy to follow

>>16824094
it's explicated most clearly in the ccru writings, but even those earlier writings (before he's fully relaxed into this position on philosophy) are part of his development in thinking about capital as an all-powerful lovecraftian horror - and while his intent may have been different at the time of writing kant+incest, it is rejigged in his oeuvre (which becomes increasingly intentional, is retconned, reworked, and reinterpreted as a whole - a lot like nietzsche's) later on. I don't know what you're getting at with the alt-right remark, there's nothing political in this reading of land and I don't care about whatever is written about politics in his work past or present, it's the "intended" reading (again though he intends for as much misreading)

>>16820815

>>16824436
>there's nothing political in this reading of land
there absolutely is wtf. you are basically saying everything he has ever written is related to the idea he had in the CCRU about lovecraftian capital, even the stuff that came beforehand. Kant Capital and Incest does not post capital as this, it is something propagated via incest which can be overcome. A lot of his early work is like this. The only possible way you can see his early stuff as being horror inspired is if you yourself are afraid of his leftist schtick

>>16824141
go back to twitter retard

>>16824141
literally end your own life

>>16824466
again, I don't care. he was a drug addicted uni student in the late 80s, of course he was a leftist. if you want to take his early works in isolation, fine, read it as politically as you want. but land's body of work is singular and if you want to look at anything ccru-era or after, you're forced to treat it as such. whatever his intentions when writing those early works, they are re-interpreted by his later works in this fashion (as being written hyperstitional avatars). nietzsche revisited and reinterprets his old works in prefaces and ecce homo, and was very careful about what was to be published and what was to remain in his nachlass, although he may not have started seeing his published output as a singular piece of work to be revisted and integrated until he was half way through it all. it is the same with land.

>>16823371
Platón is great and is what inspired me to go into philosophy, h8 murakami, i'm colombian and i've ignored marquez

>>16824587
>land's body of work is singular
he's had more philosophical turns in his life than any other philosopher I can think of

>>16821829
hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>16820858
Not sure but it's really popular with Autogynephiles. I rec the works of Dr. Ray Blanchard.

>>16820904
>>16820887
the whole book can't be like this right?

>>16825923
It's not. I have it and most of it is readable.

>>16825923
No it's not

>>16825585
Fagles version is dry as fuck. I'm finding it a chore to read.

I'm living in this 12m^2 closet for only four months so I only have a couple of books with me, r8 but no h8 m8

>>16826325

>>16826325
Admirable but don't you like a little fun sometimes?

>>16820663
technocapital is the solution, anon

>>16820653
Looks cool. Any thoughts yet?

>>16826342
Aristoteles is kinda fun, especially when he shits on Platon every chance he gets
Nietzsche is also quite funny, definitely funnier than I thought he would be

I'm starting to tire of Marquez. Replacing him with Ishiguro for now.

>>16820684
>hasn't read Kant yet
>reading Deleuze
pseud

>>16826338
Knight is a good starter book, we need a /scilit/ general desu

>>16820653

>>16824141
Cope, trannoid, cope. You will never be a woman, only a freak. The core userbase has always said this and always will. It has nothing to do with your ideological shitflinging on socialmedia, it's the plain truth.

>>16826813
femoids btfo!!!

My youngest brother is turning 18 in a couple weeks. I'm planning to give him a HDD with some quality media and maybe some physical books.
He suffers from the typical baby sibling syndrome of being super timid and having no independence (turbo-NPC).
What would be some good books to get him started on being a real boy?

I was thinking for the physical books maybe something by Cal Newport, and putting all the classics as ebooks.

>>16826813

Ironic indeed. Some of the harshest lessons in life have to be learned firsthand; unfortunately for her, adoption is now the only available option. Course she's almost too damn old to raise a child anyhow.

>>16827376
>Some of the harshest lessons in life have to be learned firsthand
There will be a crushed and writhing generation of western women who took the career meme. Most of them are like ~30 right now so they're still holding on to SOME hope, but just wait another 20 or so years- it's gonna be fucking GRIM. HORDES OF BITTER EGGLESS WINE AUNTS MY GOD IT WILL BE A HORROR TO BEHOLD!!!!!! I thank the good lord above that I'm a homosexual.

>>16823303
>birth control
It's hormones for a mtf trannie
>feminism
I don't think you know what xenofeminism is

Not that you wouldn't be right with your post, but it doesn't really fit the OP.
Stupid faggot.

>>16820653
Why is Fanged Noumena so hard to find in print? I've been seeing it everywhere recently (outside /lit/) and I can't find a place selling it that isn't charging ridiculous prices.

hate myself for knowing every one of those books, though i had no idea the shitty tranny book was in print
heard him talk on a podcast i believe, was utterly directionless and frankly pretty stupid
if you want to live your fetish lifestyle be my guest, hope you're cute, faggot

>>16827885
one printing
i got it on amazon in 20XX and it was cheap, you arent missing anything nick land is only noteworthy for getting owned on twitter

>>16824190
Elagalbus is a perfect example of why women should never be given political power. Terrible empress.

>>16821709
This, but I have to say that "Kant, Capital and the Problem of Incest" is, almost completely, a Capitalism and Schizophrenia ripoff (not the entire book, obviously, but the parts in which d&g discusses incest, filiation and axiomatics of marginalization).

Pls no bully.

>>16820887
Literally Finnegan's Wake for Dummies

New additions, hope to finish by EOY

>>16826338
Hello finland

>>16828553
Huomenta

bought these for my library, might start on Dracula soon

>>16828546
>The Art of Making Beer
I hope you aren't white, anon.

>>16820653
based tranny

>>16828945
Lmao how did you know? im una goblina

>>16828910
Dracula is incredibly comfy

>>16820653
Currently reading Women and Men for the first time and the rest are favorites I'm going to re-read.

>>16820653

>>16831069
>Mao's Guerilla Warfare

should just be one page with "get overwhelmingly massive funding and logistical support from the USSR"
commiefaggots would still need a bookmark

>>16831107
Oh, but sir, you forget all the funding and support from the communist sympathizers and spies within the US government who tried to convince us that they weren't really communists, they were just agrarian peasants seeking reform.
And it should be noted that Mao did have a very good understanding of guerrilla warfare. I actually wrote a short research paper on Moa and the CCP's Influence on Guerrilla Warfare for my US-China relations class. Which was interesting because of the wu flu.

>>16823286
you should feel embarrassed for reading Ayn Rand

>>16828194
CUTE!

>>16831069
lmao, what are you prepping for?

>>16825768
>hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>16831944
My masters degree.
My thousands of rounds, over a year's worth of food, and all my survival gear on the other hand is for the inevitable economic collapse that we are most likely already in.
Or in the words of Biden, Trudeau, WEF, and the UN, The Great Reset.

>>16824190
>Elagabalus
>He made an attempt to flee, and would have got away somewhere by being placed in a chest had he not been discovered and slain, at the age of eighteen. His mother, who embraced him and clung tightly to him, perished with him; their heads were cut off and their bodies, after being stripped naked, were first dragged all over the city, and then the mother's body was cast aside somewhere or other, while his was thrown into the Tiber.

>>16832523
kek

>>16820653
>tfw Just bought another batch of books before the deals are over
>I have spend 1 week of salary in books
>Already read 1/3 o those books

>>16828910
Am I the only one who thinks Thucydides and the Peloponnesian War was boring as fuck?

>>16832523
lmao
No wonder it's always just a reference "there were trans emperors!!" and no elaboration

>>16820681
>I won't be a femanon if I stop taking the pills uwu
I just came out as trans, I'm going to therapy to start hrt. I love you :3

>>16820653
>>16820684
bros, what should I read before negarestani?

>>16833090
That's awesome! Love you too anon

I dont stack I display.

Muss by Curzio Malaparte
Complete bilingual poetry by Shakespeare
Historic dramas by Shakespeare
White noise by Don DeLillo
Nación TV is about Mexican media and the power it had on politics, very local but incendiary.

>>16833155
>That's awesome! Love you too anon
(* ^ ω ^)

>>16833155
>>16833201
>>16833090
Who hurt you so bad that you want to do this to yourself?

>>16833451
>Who hurt you so bad that you want to do this to yourself?
Randomness. Gender dysphoria can be explained partially to things that happened in the womb related to hormone levels.

>>16820681
>using birth control as hrt
That's not how it fucking works

>>16823901

>penguin

>>16830919
That was what the cashier said when she was ringing it up for me. She told me it is one of her favorite reads, so it got me extremely excited.

>>16832777
what deals, anon?

>>16834624
AMZ, we had 25% in a lot of books in spicland.