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¡Hola!

Este es el hilo oficial de literatura hispánica o literatura en español. Discutan aquí sus autores, y obras favoritos, u opinen sobre lo que quieran acerca de lo relativo a la literatura de esta la segunda lengua más hablada en el mundo, y la segunda lengua con más hablantes nativos en toda la Tierra.

This is the official thread of Hispanical literature or literature in Spanish. You can discuss here your favorite authors, and works, or comment on anything relating to the literature of this the second most spoken language in the world, and the second language on the whole Earth with most native speakers.

>Sitios con libros electrónicos en español:
>Websites with e-books in Spanish:
https://pastebin.com/QpcU8gjG

>Torrent con más de 70000 libros electrónicos en español:
>Torrent with +70000 ebooks in Spanish:
https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=35208945

>Canales de Youtube que podrían ser útiles:
>Useful Youtube channels:
https://pastebin.com/mqcBy9J0

>> No.16811053
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YA CÁLIDO, O YA ASTRINGENTE,

SI FRÍO Y HOSCO SE ME HALLA,

O SI DE MERCURIAL LIVIANDAD,

O YA DE PLOMIZA GRAVEDAD,

SE ME SOPESA, QUE SE SEPA:

QUE ES PESAR, MAS NO MALO ÁNGEL;

HUMOR DE AMONIO, NO DEMONIO;

QUE NO MALA VOLUNTAD SINO

NEGRADO SOL, ADUSTO METAL;

DULCE CON AMARGOR BINADO;

FUROR CON AMOR CONJUGADO;

QUE DE ESTE ACEDO BINOMÏO

LAS MÍAS SALES RICAS SALEN.

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qué opina hispalit de este señor.

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>>16810687
just finished this. anything else like it?

>> No.16811174

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EL BIDÓN DE LECHE ENTERITAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
MMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNN LA LECHEEEEEHHHH PAPIIIIIIIIII~
LMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMHHHHHHHH AHHHHH~

>> No.16811259

>>16811160
Never read him.

>> No.16811818

Vanguardias suck

>> No.16812095

>>16811053
>LAS MÍAS SALES RICAS SALEN.

¿Qué quieres decir con esto?

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Protips for ñfags:
1) Avoid these threads.
2) Keep a copy of pic related as a talisman to ward against the ALL CAPS retard's faggotry.
3) Filter that annoying tripfag.

>> No.16812187

>>16812167
god i hate ࿇ K E V I N ࿇

>> No.16812189

>>16810687
yo onions feliz

>> No.16812196

New Maestro video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MC-p4AxmIE

Note: I hope someday the caps lock spic tripfag dies of COVID-19.

>> No.16812200

>>16810687
Onions un hablante de herencia y empecé a leer Don Quijote. Pensé que sabía español bien. Ahora, me estoy dando cuenta que mi cerebro es blando y llano.

Como les esta yendo?

>> No.16812214

>>16812187
Fuck you

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>>16812167
Why are you so bitter and hateful? What has he ever done to you? If anything he's one of the better posters. At least he contributes to discussion and generates original content. What have YOU done?

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>>16812167
al Kevin se le respeta eh que es buena gente

>> No.16812399

Anybody have a chart or recommendations for essential Spanish poetry? Maybe where to start as a beginner or chronologically? Thanks.

>> No.16812437

>>16812399
Comienza por Garcilaso de la Vega, termina en sor Juana.

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>>16812399
Start here.

>> No.16812543

Why the name changed from /SpGT/ to this shit?
t. Mexican.

>> No.16812576

>>16812543
Because of ࿇ K E V I N ࿇ constant autismo that fucked most of the /SpGT/ threads.

>> No.16812604

>>16812543
The threads got robbed, notice who the anons that always posted are nowhere to be seen.

>> No.16812616

>>16810687
Do you guys think there is a future for Spanish language literature in the United States?

>> No.16812626

>>16812616
Probably, there are Spanish Creative Writing schools in the USA, people go network there.

>> No.16812632

>>16812616
Probably only as a rhetorical and stylistic flourish to compliment English. English is the superstrata prestige language in the States similar to how Spanish is the prestige language in countries with aboriginal languages still in use.

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>>16812616
Not in an anglo USA...

>> No.16812648

>>16812632
>Spanish is the prestige language in countries with aboriginal languages still in use.

What? No. Spanish is THE native language. Amerindian languages were preserved but they're not in parallel or otherwise hierarchical relation to Spanish. They're linguistic relics.

>> No.16812679

>>16812576
>࿇ K E V I N ࿇
is that the guy who posts all caps in lots of boards?

>> No.16812684

>>16812679
Yes.

>> No.16812689

>>16812648
I know Guatemalans and Peruvians whose native language is kiche and quechua. I also know Paraguayans who grew up speaking Spanish and guarani. Im not saying that Spanish is to English as indigenous languages are to Spanish. Im saying that in relative relationship in countries there exists adstrata hierarchies.

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>>16812200
>Ahora, me estoy dando cuenta que mi cerebro es blando y llano.

Jajaja, no te apures, amigo. La LENGVA ESPAÑOLA es dura, compleja, pero también bella y potente, y una vez que la aprendes toda sabe riquísima. Solo sigue practicando.

>> No.16812737

>>16812689
Spanish is not "the prestige language" in Hispanic America. It's the native language. That some people know amerindian languages only means that the relics have been passed on. Amerindian languages don't have any operational reality.

You're extrapolating the Anglo colonialistic mindset to the hispanosphere and that's just wrong. The English were mercantile colonialists, the Spanish were imperial civilizers.

>> No.16812783

Mis chabones de /lit/, estoy buscando hace tiempo algún libro de la colección Nudos de la Historia Argentina, de Editorial Sudamericana (hasta ahora sin éxito). ¿Alguien tiene idea de dónde encontrarlos truchos? Las librerías me piden unos 1700 memepesos (17 US$) así que no son opción

>> No.16812810

>>16812737
It's actually a linguistic concept from an Italian linguist. The idea of stratum relationships is pretty well supported. Its why the number of speakers of quechua in Bolivia and Peru is still declining because Spanish is the prestige language. Its why the German and Italian immigrants to the US and also parts of Hispano America stopped speaking their native languages. You're confusing native language with Native American. They aren't the same.

>> No.16812842

>>16812703
Gracias. De acuerdo, lo haré. Mucho es una falta de vocabulario. Sabiendo inglés y latin me está ayudando, pero aun la grammatica no es como se habla hoy normalmente.

Tuve que aprender espanol de adulto porque mi papa era vago y no lo quiso enseñar. Es un rumbo largo pero voy mejorando.

>> No.16812916

>>16812783


SOLO HALLÉ ESTOS:


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CbHJrZN_E8orRwx10Xvu0uZ2QPGCYxqw/view

http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=16F80F8FA22D97585C2D50554C0E7A47

>> No.16813414

>>16812632
:(
I consider Spanish to be a prestige language.... (No I’m not Chicano, I’m Indian (from India)). It is my dream to someday write a novel in Spanish, but I have a rather shaky grasp on the language. Besides the usual suspects (Duolingo, etc) how do I improve my Spanish writing and reading? I have begun keeping a diary in Spanish and on the reading side I’ve been trying to read Borges in Spanish (Whose works I loved in translation).

>> No.16813770

>>16813414
>how do I improve my Spanish writing and reading?

Escribiendo en Español, leyendo en Español, además de hablarlo.

>> No.16813792

Are there any /HispLit/ that tackle magical realism and isn't bad?

It seems to be a theme in some sections of Latin American media.

>> No.16813810

¡Ay Caramba!

>> No.16813985

>>16813792
Most of the usual suspects are great, have you already read the classics of the genre?

>> No.16814507

>>16811053
>rimar palabras con -ado
>pésimo uso de la diéresis
>paja mental del metal

verdaderamente eres una mierda en tus publicaciones así como en tus intentos de verso, suicídate tapatío

>> No.16814514

el quijote está sobrevalorado

>> No.16814532

Delicado hallazgo de la mar
Alabastro y azabache divinos
Espuma ligera viene a quemar
Mi piel asoleada de latino

Astro manifestado y terrenal
Saca mi ojo colorado y senil
Para no tener mirada banal
Hazlo con tus manitas de marfil

Galatea perdóname por tuerto
Ahogado en mi caverna me quedo
Haciéndote chucherías pelágicas

A mí Polifemo dame por muerto
Jamás te tocaré con un dedo
Jugarretas de las Moiras tan trágicas

¿Qué puedo mejorarle a este soneto? Sé que sólo es un ejemplo pero prefiero sólo mostrar este a ninguno

>> No.16814533

>>16813985
No, I haven't, unfortunately.

I'll look up the classics on Google soon but I am curious what you guys personally recommend.

>> No.16814757

Opiniones sobre Isabel Allende?

>> No.16814809

>>16812916
Muchas gracias!

>>16814514
Cerrá el orto mogólico

>> No.16816284

Alguno puede recomendarme algún libro de técnicas de narrativa, estructura, ritmo, herramientas lingüisticas que poder usar? sólo encuentro manuales en ingles.

>> No.16816422

>>16812783
Bumpeado por esto

>> No.16816481

>>16814507
O uso da trema (diérese) foi para manter regular a métrica poética. Uma indicação de que a palavra deveria ser lida como [bi.no'mjo] em vez de [bi'no.mjo]. Um tanto retardado mas funcionou.
I can't be bothered to write it in Spanish, you should be able to understand what I just wrote above. Otherwise kys

>> No.16816500

"Mis primeros recuerdos emergen de una sensación acariciante y melodiosa. Era yo un retozo en el regazo materno. Sentíame prolongación física, porción apenas seccionada de una presencia tibia y protectora, casi Divina. La voz entrañable de mi madre orientaba mis pensamientos, determinaba mis impulsos. Se diría que in cordón umbilical invisible y de caracter volitivo me ataba a ella y perduraba muchos años después de la ruptura del lazo fisiológico. Sin voluntad segura, invariablemente volvía al refugio de la zona amparada por sus brazos. Rememoro con efusiva complacencia aquel mundo provisional del complejo madre-hijo. Una misma sensibilidad con cinco sentidos nuevos y ávidos, penetrando juntos el misterio renovado de cada día." - José Vasconcelos, Ulises Criollo

>> No.16816622

>>16812616
There are still some authors who do write in Spanish in the US so hope is not lost.
>>16812737
Amerindian languages might not be spoken by a majority anymore but they are not relics, they're still evolving and learned naturally by its speakers. They also are the native language of many people in countries like Mexico, Perú or Paraguay; Spanish being their second language in this cases. It's honestly surprising that Amerindian languages are still alive considering all the challenges they've endured.
>the Spanish were imperial civilizers.
The Spanish weren't even capable of significantly dimishing Indigenous languages in countries like Mexico, that was a job done mostly in the XIXth or XXth century. It would not surprise me it is similar in other LatAm countries.

>> No.16817319

« Nadie te pide que regreses pero estás aquí siempre. En ocasiones te ditraes, no te dejas ver y te damos por muerta, a ti que no morirás nunca. Te oponemos las armas oxidadas de la esperanza, la ilusión de la buena suerte, la fugaz creencia en que nos has perdonado. Más tardamos en distraernos del combate que tú en reaparecer victoriosa.

Nada iguala tu imaginación devoradora, tu genialidad para urdir tramas inesperadas. Estallas en el mar de la tranquilidad y en el abismo de la confianza. Das por tierra con los castillos de naipes edificados bajo la ilusión de que así íbamos a engañarte por un instante.

Invisible, invencible, omnipresente, nunca te jactas de tu continua victoria. A veces se creería que actúas de mala gana, no te gusta tu papel en el desorden de mundo, repudias el monótono juego de gato y ratón que define nuestro vínculo. Y al menos por un instante, Desdicha, te compadeces de nosotros. »

-- José Emilio Pacheco, "La edad de las tinieblas"

>> No.16817353

>>16816481
Pues sí, sirve para mantener la métrica y el ritmo pero es muy fácil que rompa el flujo natural de las palabras dado que ya estamos acostumbrados a decirlas de cierta manera por lo que introducir una sílaba tónica nueva es poco elegante y en la mayoría de las ocasiones entorpece la lectura, obrigado pelo seu comentário

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Say something honest about it.

>> No.16817916

>>16811160
hack, his dad is a better poet

>> No.16817939

>>16814757
Si no eres una ama de casa con dos cifras de CI, ni te molestes

>> No.16818046

>>16814507
Esto no es una crítica, solo buscas algo para insultarlo. Además, lo de la diéresis muestra tu ignorancia.

>> No.16818123

>>16814532
Don't place your stresses on the 5th or 7th syllables. Start by writing strict endecasílabos with heroic rhythm (2th, 6th, 10th). Needs punctuation. I think the theme is conventional, a couple of rhymes are rather facile (mar/quemar), and it looks like an amateur's job. This is not to discourage you, but to push you to be more rigorous, to keep writing and to study prosody. Read more sonnets, see what they do and how they do it.

>> No.16818791

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CpCD9T-Of40

>> No.16818796

>>16812196
>el profe, sin ningún atisbo de ironía, nos puso un video de jesús g. maestro en clase
amixes...

>> No.16818998

>>16818791
kajskjaskaj, ¿quién mierda es este señor?

>> No.16819053

>>16818998
Desconozco, pero unks cuantos anones aquí son devotos del grumoso esperma de este señor

>> No.16819079

>>16818998
El caudillo máximo de /HispLit/

>> No.16819139

>>16813414
When I speak of prestige languages. Im referring to linguistic stratum relationships within a country. In the USA, English is the Prestige language. In Mexico, Spanish is the prestige language. In these contexts, im not saying that English is or more prestigious than Spanish on the whole. Only in Anglophone countries. If I were to move back to Argentina then I would speak español (castellano) more and have to know it for work as it is the language of prestige there.

India is interesting as English is a pseudo prestige language as far as I understand as one is expected to know if one wants to work in certain high class occupations. I could be mistaken though. Buena suerte con tu español. Creo en ti.

>> No.16819174

Chavones. Onions americano y tengo una posible oportunidad para inmigrar a españa y mantener dos ciudanias por mi herencia de ser hijo de mi papa puertoriqueño. Solo tendría que vivir y trabajar en España por dos años. Que piensan? Debo considerarlo?

>> No.16819180

Hola supermercado de la bancos por aquí

>> No.16819192

>>16819174
Mala idea mi chabón
Uruguay es mucho más comfy

>> No.16819229

>>16819192
Te creo, pero podré mantener dos ciudadanías? Vivi en Argentina y estuvo bueno, pero según no solo Uruguayos pero aun Argentinos, Uruguay es mejor.

>> No.16819299

>>16819139
>India is interesting as English is a pseudo prestige language as far as I understand as one is expected to know if one wants to work in certain high class occupations. I could be mistaken though.
It's more of a "compromise language". Sure, it's needed for high-end jobs, but it lacks the connotations of making a language native to a part of India commonplace everywhere. This is especially a problem in the South, where the languages are from a different family entirely from the North. English serves a language that everyone can use without the accusation of culture erasing.

>> No.16819313

>>16819174
s.o.y español en gUSAnolandia y creo que el panorama ahora mismo en España está muy mal, en unos años aquello va a ser un erial. Para empezar porque se han ventilado 20% del PIB que dependía del turismo con el culonavirus, y no tiene pinta de que la cosa vaya a mejorar a corto plazo, a menos que el gobierno tire de crédito de la UE infinitamente. Vamos, que si emigras dependiendo de en qué zona te muevas prepárate para un paro bestial. Puedo equivocarme, pero a grandes rasgos lo veo así.

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>>16819313
>gringo

>> No.16819362

>>16819324
que no onions gringo tonto pollas

>> No.16819371

>>16819299
Ahh, cool. Its the lingua franca then. Good for professional use, but not much else. Glad to hear it, honestly. ld rather Indian languages stuck around forever. Its a long term dream of mine to learn to read sanskrit as I am a linguist and its very interesting to me.

>> No.16819372

>>16819139
Again, it's a fallacious theory since it extrapolates the Anglo colonialist model onto areas that are antithetical to it. It uses Anglocentric concepts to explain what supersedes the Anglo.

>> No.16819376

>>16819362
que putas esta diciendo este gringo? onion?

>> No.16819418

>>16818796
Which video?

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>>16818998
El discípulo rebelde de Gustavo Bueno (pbuh).

>> No.16819481

>>16819372
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratum_(linguistics)

It is not "anglo" stop being a retard.

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>>16819481
>wikipedia

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>>16819481
WIKIPEDIA

>> No.16819585

>>16819423
el buen gustavo bueno es muy bueno

>> No.16819630

atte, vete a la verga.

>> No.16819717

>>16819484
>>16819536
>can't refute wikipedia with your own source

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>>16811053
Básicamente:
>SO Y TSUNDERE

Ahora mucho hace sentido...

>>16812095
Metáfora del ingenio o si no de lo que sale por donde se hace pipí y que no es pipí :)

>> No.16820270

>>16819229
Como virgin argie puedo confirmarlo, Uruguay es mejor