/lit/ - Literature

Abigail says it’s best to ignore her little brother. He’s full of shit

>>16816372
Bullying and name calling is what will get your movement into power

>>16816411
VGH

>>16816372
Why won't he debate Nick Fuentes?

>>16816372
>only bullying and name calling
That's rich, coming from him.

>>16816372
He poses as a rationalist but has an ab initio faith that he seeks evidence for in a dishonest way. He only debates college students and storms off in tears when called out by stuffy daytime news hosts who aren't even known as difficult questioners. I don't know why he still has a market.

Facts care not for his faith.

>>16816372
................................. great thread

>>16816476
He's a boilerplate moral majoritarian. The only reason he's considered persuasive is that he's somewhat better informed than both the college students he debates and the high school students that follow him

>>16816435
Have you seen Fuentes debate? He's an absolutely horrible debater

>>16816561

Apparently speedtalking and a nasal voice is all that is required to debate burgers.

>>16816561
he is literally the greatest debater in the history of politics

>>16816561
In terms of ecelebs? He’s not at all bad at debating and doesn’t rely on gimmicks that people like vaush or destiny do

Honestly, how does someone look at a book like this and think "Yes, this is the book I need to read."? Who goes around looking to "destroy leftists" in debates outside of reddit threads and YouTube comment sections?

>>16816372
Have you read his fiction book? He's an absolute fucking retard.

>>16816667

> author is 5'4"
> protagonist is 6'2", constantly described as "a bear of a man".

Maximum cope.

>everyone who disagrees with me is a dumb meanie
oh wow

>>16816372
Pure projection. Ben only debates opponents less experienced than he is, and he relies on a barrage of weak arguments which are impossible to debunk in the time window they're given.
I'm not a leftist, but now i will name call him. He's a babyfaced, short little Jew with a nasal voice who talks too fast and i don't understand how he's even taken seriously by anybody. He seems to attract center-right types more than anything else, i can't imagine an actual conservative following some Zionist twerp.

>>16816372
Really great book.

Best experienced alongside Nick Land and Mencius Moldbug.

>>16816372
ELEVEN simple RULES to DEBATE liberals and DESTROY them using FACTS & LOGIC

>>16816372
That cover art is pathetic. Are all artists just libtards, and so he had to make one himself?

>>16816476
>He only debates college students and storms off in tears when called out by stuffy daytime n
cnn trannies actually believe this LOL

Ben Shapiro supports gay marriage, legalizing drugs, and open immigration. He is a leftist.

>>16816561
It's safer to just dismiss genuine conservatives

>>16816561
He is good at debating. Only debate I would say he lost was with Jay Dyer.

>>16817040
Liberal not leftist

>>16817121
Liberals are leftist you ignorant bastard. Just because there's different types of liberals it doesn't one of them is right wing and it doesn't change the origin of the term.

>>16816372

>reading the meme jew

>>16816372
It’s just that if that were true, why does every leftist have a shelves upon shelves of theory?
If it were that easy they wouldn’t need so many books.

>>16816411
They're the same thing

>>16816411
>>16817318
God damn, I want to lick her jew tits as she calls me a sub-par male

>>16817311
>t. epic big brain leftist

>>16817131
Liberals sre not leftists by the very definition of Liberalism.

>>16817364
The term leftist comes form the French National Assembly where the liberals sat on the left and the nobility sat on the right. Don't be an idiot.

>>16817364
liberals are leftists in the context of the french revolutions
leftists in the context of today are a merely adopting labels

Shapiro is a Koch crony and has some strange friends
He also wont engage in a debate with a serious opponent, settling instead for yelling at college students in his audience

>>16816372
>Ben says that the left has no arguments or facts, only bullying and name calling.
That's adorable coming from a guy who has no arguments or facts, and has to rely on bulling and name calling. Shapiro is a piss poor spokesman for the right.

>Ben says that the left has no arguments or facts, only bullying and name calling.

>>16816655
He's long marketed himself to kids who debate on reddit, 4chan, and YouTube.

>>16816655
This is targeted towards highschoolers, maybe even younger. Youth is too politicized today. I got into Marxism in middle school.

>>16816980
The cover art is designed to attract the people who'd find Shapiro convincing. It's not that artists are strictly libtards; it's that right-book readers think art is libtarded.

>you're for small government except when it comes to sending aid to Israel, Ben

>>16817427
>it's that right-book readers think art is libtarded
Do Burgerlanders seriously think that the "liberal" in "liberal arts" means the same thing as "liberal" in politics?

>>16817318
Yes, she’s full of shit too. Ignore them both.
I still would though.

>>16817131
You stupid sad bastard.
>>16817377
And so it has worn out it’s usefulness. They’re still left of you sad bastard monarchists, but that only makes them centrists by our modern standards (and by modern I meant 1800s, 1900s and 2000s. Get your head out of the 1700s man!)

>>16817768
The majority of the people in the Republican party are philosophically classical liberals. The Democrats are progressive liberals. Their policy preferences are a result of of having different conceptions of freedom or liberty. It makes no sense to call them right wing and you only call them that because the Trotskyites who left the Democrat party in the 1960's and joined the Republicans and have rhetorically taken over the term conservative. This is why they're called "neocons".

You don't know what you're talking about and you're fucking retarded for not learning.

>>16817300
It took 15-20 minutes out my day to read his little meme book/pamphlet.

>>16817809
>Republican party are philosophically classical liberals
Neoclassical liberal, but yes.
> Democrats are progressive
Only Bernie Sanders, maybe Gabbard and a few non-DC seats. No, NO way is AOC an actual progressive, absolutely no way can Biden or Pelosi or Obama can be considered progressives. That’s like thinking Ronald Reagan was a progressive. That shit was to the right of Nixon.
You know both parties want to build The Wall, maintain the wars, fracking, and destroy social secrets and medicare, and the post office. That shits not progressive.
>Trotsky
A state-socialist? I’d hate it, but it would be an improvement, wouldn’t it? You seriously think they infiltrated McCarthy’s party and and that’s why we have Reagan? Fucking Birchers.

>>16817871
>Neoclassical
"Newold" Yeah dude, that makes sense. I'm not even reading the rest of this shit.

>>16817882
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassical_liberalism

>>16816655
"How can I indoctrinate goy children to become perfect neocon golems (and get paid for it)"

He’s an israel-firster fifth columnist, he legitimately does not care about anything else

>>16817871
>You seriously think they infiltrated McCarthy’s party and and that’s why we have Reagan? Fucking Birchers.
I don't know about them infiltrating the entire party but there were certainly former Trotskyites that became republicans.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol

>>16817405

>S I R

My god he was pathetic in this interview. Even an average UK reporter is more capable of argument than a deluded neocon who's spent his entire life indoctrinated by his own foreskin thief.

>>16816372
A professor of philosophy whose line of research if logic has asked him to debate him anytime, anywhere, the coward haven't event answered.

Almost ALL his argumentation is basic logical fallacies.

>>16817809
>classical
No, paleo, neo-conservatives and new right.

>>16817608
yes.

>>16817387
>Koch
I hate how this guys finance every "libertarian" think thank where the academics there criticize cronyism, yet they are the purest form of such things.

As a libertarian, I hate how every piece of our discourse is so contaminated by their shit that I cannot propose a good perspective. Oh, and if you say something against them...uff..

>>16818247
>A professor of philosophy
What a parasite. Id debate that fag. Also Shapiro sucks ass.

>>16818012
It was one of those so cringy moment that I needed to stop the video for a few seconds to continue to watch.

>>16816372
Ben Shapiro is a kike. He doesn't believe any of the things he says and exists solely to make conservatives look bad

>>16818270
God bless those based retards.