/lit/ - Literature

>>16817450
not even close.

>>16817450
It's a mod no one plays anymore

for the typical post2016 /lit/ retard its impenetrable. They might try to pass off bits of wiki's entry on the critique as their own...maybe some lecture notes...but they're essentially high-functioning "people with learning difficulties"

>>16817455
What is it desu
>>16817457
Haha

>>16817450
No, but it is an extremely impressive work. There are some books that leave you in awe of the person who wrote them. This is one of them. Even if you don't agree with Kant.

>>16817450
No, Kant ends up declaring the ether to be logically necessary in his later work the Opus Postmum, thus the validity of metaphysics isn’t truly refuted since even Kant still tries to eke out an exception, but if one exception is allowed there is no real reason why the others are out-of-question either

>>16817450
No. That would be this bad boy.

Do you need to understand his metaphysics to understand his morality? Do they go together at all?

>>16817450

That's pleb tier, really.

>>16817881
his morality actual makes no sense in light of his metaphysics

>>16817866
I read the final chapters and turns out it was just christian mysticism all along

>>16817889
>>16817866
Sprecht ihr überhaupt Deutsch or are you guys just pseuding.

>>16817450
No, this is the boss of the tutorial. Once you read this you're into the actual open world.

>>16817553
Please stop being 20.

>>16818028
Selbstverständlich sprech ich deutsch, aber das eine schließt natürlich das andere nicht aus.

>>16817450
Lolno

>>16817450
It’s like, the boss of the third level. You need to have a pretty firm grasp on it to really engage in any of the philosophizing that’s gone on in the last 200 years, which is a lot of it.

The other reason it’s not the final boss is that there is clearly something *wrong*, and much of subsequent philosophy is about trying to solve the issues he raises.

Here the next couple levels:
Fichte - Science of Knowledge (Mini boss)
Hegel - Science of Logic

Schopenhauer - The World as Will and Representation

Husserl - Cartesian Meditations

Heidegger - Being and Time

Gadamer - Truth and Method

Deleuze - Difference and Repetition

Brandom - Making it Explicit

Personally, I think if anybody can understand Badiou’s three major works, Being and Event, Logics of Worlds, and The Immanence of Truths, then you’ve conquered the current final boss of philosophy.

It is the first boss. Everything before hand is tutorial.

>>16818052
the man refuted himself in old age

>>16817450
German idealism overrall, yes. everything that comes after is essentialy bs made by people who got Kant wrong, or unnecessary larp.

>>16817450
Nietzsche raped him in one page or so in BGE

>>16817450
Plotinus retroactively refuted Kant

>>16819124
yeah, this.

>>16817922
Could you explain? Because most scholars would say exactly the opposite.

>>16819124
French philosophy will always be a joke, and will never be worth reading unless you are some sewer troll degenerate trying to subvert his country.

>>16819830
You can be mad about it all you want, Deleuze’s D&R and Badiou’s B&E are the only two books that come close to rivalling Being and Time in the 20th century

>>16819830
True

>>16819364
which page?

>>16817866
>>16817450
Its the kind of book you need to reread a million times. Read the greeks, then hume leibnitz and descartes, then kant, then the german idealists, then kant again, then wittgenstein, then kant again, then modern analytic phil, then kant, then marxists, then kant, then psychoanalysts, then kant again, then post-structuralists, then kant again, then pomo-political philosophers, then kant again.. He pretty much solved philosophy, but you will only be able to appreciate that 10 years after understanding his arguments.

>>16817450
Try Being & Time. It's like that twin boss from Dark Souls. Orenstein something.

>>16817450
>at the start of the book he says he doesn't want it to be dry and boring
>it's really dry and boring
Admittedly I'm not far into it. What I've read was somewhat interesting but it's tainted by how dull it is.
Does it get better?

>>16817450
no. also, just read prolegomena.

>>16821523
He "solved philosophy" by saying that not being able to know things as they are in themselves is a feature not a bug. Pretty retarded.

>>16821556
What would knowing things "in-themselves" even mean you fucking idiot. I'd blow your brains out and you'd know a bullet in itself.

>>16817450
It literally destroyed continental philosophy by denying knowledge of objective reality, eventually leading to Heideggerianiam and Postmodernism

>>16821693
You know Kant got BTFO by Hegel right?

>>16821736
German Idealism is the precise point where Continental Philosophy became a joke. It barely qualifies as philosophy.

>>16821747
Analytic philosophers are pathetic. Licking the balls of empiricists in a desperate attempt to get validation from the sciences.

>>16821754
thought provoking criticism

>>16817450
no. its doesnt go beyond skepticism in a way that islamic philosophy hadnt done exactly in the same way and many others before. and it doesnt go beyond skepticism. it got popular because of its status

>>16821754
analytic philosophers being wrong doesnt mean continental philosophy is not retarded.

anons ITT are clueless. noone in here really understands the achievement of Kant, which is really fucking simple to posit, but hard to understand why it's true.
Kant showed that there is a priori justification and Philosophy is still coping over this.

>>16819382
>retroactively refuted
Isn't he saying the same exact thing? You can't know the noumenon, only the phenomenon.

a priori doesnt exist. every ""knowledge"" is a posteriori. and knowledge isnt a valid concept

>>16817450
Germans should've sticked to classical music.

>>16817450
This is the final boss if you indeed read philosophy for the same reasons as Obama did. Cope coom consume.

>>16821818
Kant is garbage

>>16821959
I fucking hate tourists so much bros

>>16817450
German idealism is the ultimate Cancer that destroyed the west

Reminder that Kant was eternally BTFO and relegated to twitter status
>>/lit/thread/S16032863

>>16821951
>same reasons as Obama did
Explain more on this

>>16821959
>>16821967
Io ho fatto lo stesso quando avevo 13 anni