/lit/ - Literature

>>16799535
God is not a man in the sky. God is the consciousness before all other consciousness, the absolute.

>>16799545
God is Pure Actuality.

>>16799547
What do you mean?

Which one? Christianity has three

>>16799598
Greek Orthodox, so Jesus & God

>>16799598
In God there are Three Persons, who are only one God, because they have but one essence.

>>16799621
This

>>16799621
But there chairs also have one essence that doesn't make them one chair

Bump pls

>>16799665
They're three distinct persons who share the same essence, one cannot be without the other.
>>16799535
You're on the right road. I'm also looking into Orthodoxy, brother. Try reading the church fathers, the orthodox study Bible, and Seraphim Rose. I'd also recommend listening to Jay Dyer as he seems to be a theological/philosophical beast who knows his shit.

>>16799535
>joining some group to tell you how to live and what to believe instead of following Jesus Christ teachings directly from a bible as an individual
You of little faith

>>16799879
Legit.

>>16799879
What did Jesus mean when he said "And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" (Matthew 16:18)?

>>16799879
Because community and the history of the church exists

>>16799806
>I'd also recommend listening to Jay Dyer
OHNONNONONONONO

>>16799879
>Just follow the Bible bro!
>The Bible that was canonised by the orthodox church
>Just follow your own interpretation bro!
>As opposed to apostolic tradition and ecumenical councils adhering to an accepted understanding of Christ's teachings
But no, some Germanic and French heretics from the 16th century are correct.

>>16799952
What's wrong with him? Did he refute your heresy or something?

>>16799879
Based

>>16799535
Getting a copy of the OSB wouldn't hurt, in addition to that the sayings of the desert fathers and the first hopko book on scripture should be enough. Orthodox theology is complex, but that's not something you should worry about immediately. The Church is designed for the illiterate, and higher level reading will only result in prelest. This is why most parish priests have a reading/prayer regiment they give inquirers to see how they do. So first just go to liturgy and talk to a priest. Also Antiochian parishes have a great track record for, and are most interested in, conversion. Thats my advice, because if you're fresh to orthodoxy the more ethnic parishes will be offputting.
t. orthofren

>>16799535
deaf morons can read all books about music in the world and will never hear the music.

>>16800016
Tfw from the church of the east and find out we have our own Syriac Orthodox church so that the ethnic parish won't be off-putting. Feelsgoodman.

>>16799621
How can jesus be God if God is everywhere?

>>16799598
Why does Jesus talk to God on the cross if>>16799621
he is god?

>>16799535
Ignore 4chan opinions about the faith; these people are hopelessly mired in the world and unlike yourself as water is unlike wine.

>>16799879
You're basically lobbying for an imam or rabbinic religion then. The Christian clerical structure is significantly different from judaism and islam, as Christianity focuses on the giving of gifts (sacraments) rather than scriptural knowledge. Christ built a Churcj for a reason baka.
>>16799806
>Seraphim Rose
>Jay Dyer
He should do neither of those things. Rose is great, but far far away from beginner. People like to rec him because he's cool, but no inquirer should read him. Dyer is just weird.
>>16800064
>God is everywhere
That's divine simplicity, which is not Orthodox. Creation has divinity in it, but is not itself divine. God, one essence, three personages, simple as.
>>16800093
Also this, don't ask /lit/ for advice.

>>16799956
Ain't just from the 16th Century, bruddah

>>16800064
Jesus Christ has two natures, one of the divine and one of human.
>>16800072
The Son can speak to the Father as they're distinct persons.

>>16800134
>>16800106
All you're doing is claiming that God has multiple aspects which is forbidden in Islam and forbidden in monotheistic religion.

>>16799879
>>16799914
Yes, please explain this verse, keeping in mind that the Greek Πετροσ, which we have anglicized to Peter, means rock/stone.

>>16800106
>Dyer is weird
That's not a valid reason as to why he isn't a great source of information.
>>16800107
Yes it is, bruh. Nobody believed in that stuff other than refuted heretics until the 16th century, there's no way around this historical fact.

>>16800140
one essence, three energies, stop being a nigger

>>16800140
Islam is a cult for donkeys and tawheed isn't monotheism, it means unity - unity in what? They can't answer. Christianity is monotheistic, the Christian God is a triune one, this shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

>>16800064
Because all things doesn't have divine nature faik

>>16800150
Okay.

Why did Jesua trust in God and commend his spirit to the father him if he himself is God? Wouldn't he have known?
Why is the father more allknowing than Jesus?

>>16800191
Nigger, I'm not a priest. Why don't you go ask rabbi since he has all the answers?

>>16800016
I have the NRSV bible. It is the Oxford Annotated Edition with Apocrypha. Will this be ok?

>>16800191
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosis
Abdul, do some independent research, we'll help you leave the cult of Islam.

>>16800222
Any bible is better than no bible, but if you're interested in orthodoxy the commentary in OSB is invaluable.

>>16800233
Thank you.

>>16800215
No. I am Muslim.
I have read the Bible, Isa claims trinity yes but we believe this part is a later addition by dishonest scribes.

>>16800302
>No. I am Muslim.
Why do muzzies always shitup threads

>>16800302
there is no difference between islam and rabbinic judaism

>>16800369
Muslims don't have a Talmud.

>>16800388
jews don't publicly behead priests and school teachers

>>16799535
you lack faith and for that you will go to hell

>>16800302
How can it be corrupted by dishonest scribes if the Qur'an affirms the Bible?
>Sura 7:156-157:
>"And I will write down (my mercy) for those who are righteous and give alms and who believe in our signs; who follow the apostle, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in the Torah and the Gospel that is with them.

>Sura 5:71:
>"Say, O People of the Book! You are not (founded) on anything until you perform the Torah and the Gospel, and what was revealed to you from your Lord."

>>16800429
t. Seething protestant

>>16800442
And yet the Qur'an is established. Why? Why would there need to be a correction of the Bible was without fault?

>>16800442
>>16800442
The Quran mentions the Torah, the Zabur ("Psalms") and the Injil ("Gospel") as being revealed by God to the prophets Moses, David and Jesus respectively in the same way the Quran was revealed to Muhammad, the final prophet and messenger of God according to Muslims. However, Muslims generally view these books (i.e the Bible, or parts of it) as having been corrupted, altered and interpolated over time, while maintaining that the Quran remains as the final, unchanged and preserved word of God.

>>16800442
>I will raise up a prophet from among their countrymen like you, and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. It shall come about that whoever will not listen to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him. But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.

>I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.

Christianity predicted Muhammad swt.

>>16800016
OSB is orthodox study bible?

>>16801315
Exactly.
Hard fact is that On that day Jesus will be against those who worshiped him.

>>16800191
>>16800302
If I am a teacher must first claim that Iam a teacher and I have the required qualification then onlybsome other person can evaluate my qualification.

If I dont have any claim in the first place, then that need not be evaluated and its deemed that Iam not a teacher.

Jesus never claimed he is GOD and Bible never claim its revealed from GOD.

>>16801341
yupper, it's peak comfy

Thank you everybody