/lit/ - Literature

>>16785569
by using this knowledge to my advantage

Why cope? They've paved the way for new life to grow. We're not slaves to circumstance, and we can mend the wounds that has been inflicted by our own ignorance and achieve great things

>>16785569
Why do I need to "cope" with it? I lived with this knowledge for as long as I remember and I haven't even read any philosophy.

>>16785569
sounds like a big advantage to me

>>16785569
Only race-obsessed /pol/tards need to cope with this.

>>16785569
they aren't though.

the fact that all values are arbitrary doesn't mean that they are malleable.
cultural practices shape action, which shapes human being at the individual, cellular level, as well as the epigenetic generational level.

there are also dark drives in the human animal which, while malleable to an extent, are ever present in the human and will never not exist in the organic human form.

now, once humans merge with synthetic ai and we can essentially manufacture all things physical and edit our basic memories and drives, then everything really will be malleable and the postmodernists will then be absolutely right. but it will take the abolishing of organic human life to do it
until then, we are essentially premoderns/ animals with fantastical ideas about ourselves and the world which we call postmodernism and that will not change

>>16785802
so you're saying we should ignore racially based IQ data?

>>16785822
Doesn't matter what you do. The postpodernists have won, bigot.

>>16785822
People are determined by their cultural and ideological narratives, not be their genes. Man is mostly a blank slate, it's the stuff above primal fuck and eat that we think of when we talk about human identity

>>16785822
"IQ" is the concern of liberal bugmen

>>16785832
OK Chaim

>>16785835
I'd say various mental disabilities caused by genetic disorders can determine man's fate pretty decisively.

>>16785836
The people who existed before liberal bugmen took over had intuitions about race and intelligence practically identical to what IQ shows

how do you cope with the fact that there is literally at least 2000 years worth of theology and philosophy that forms very reasonable and strong arguments that refute this which you have never even started to read?

>>16785835
its obviously a mix of both but the current science suggests it leans towards being more genetic and not environmental. i dont understand where you people get your ideas.

>>16785848
They don't define who a person is, unless they're rather extreme. The body is a means towards an end, even a body with a few setbacks can still be useful as a vehicle.

>>16785850
"The people who existed before liberal bugmen" is a construct. Grow a soul, then a spine, and then a brain. In that order.
Different people had different views about different people at different times relating to different ideas about humanity as defined by entirely different historical narratives and values than we do today.

>>16785835
you don't think genes determine intelligence?
Do you also believe that chimps are equal to humans but that they're simply held back by their own cultural and ideological narratives?

>>16785837
>Chaim
what?

>>16785569
I think the knowledge that all our transcendent values and concepts are all mere spooks and assumptions that we wilfully buy into actually heightens the importance of holding this convictions regardless. It is one thing to believe in God (interchange God with whichever meta-narrative of your choice) when everybody else does, but to believe in God when nobody does is true courage, and true faith.

>>16785883
Well you can twist yourself in knots if you want to pretend that everyone is exactly the same genetically but it's obviously dumb and it will just cause you to make inaccurate predictions and explanations about the world.

>>16785886
>you don't think genes determine intelligence?
Education determines intelligence. You might think that you're gifted and lazy, but it's just a cope. A college educated black man is worth more to society than a know it all high school dropout pasty white manchild

>>16785886
chimps and humans are different species, Mr Cletus.

>>16785781
Americans have no soul, thats why they need to read in order to learn (even if they can only understand what they read in quantitative structures, that is worse).

>>16785912
Most genetic differences among humans are inconsequential. What racists imagine when they think of other races is often a ridiculous cartoon which was culturally conditioned

>>16785914
yeah but blacks are way less likely to be able to do well in college, and they're admitted with way lower average test scores. On the other end of the spectrum asians are obviously better than whites

>>16785928
That's not what any of the actual research shows, and I mean just look around at the world for a second, do you seriously not see the patterns

>>16785914
unfortunately the situation is more complex than that. I can agree that diligence is probably a bigger determinant for genius than intelligence but the simple truth is that not everybody has an equal intelligence, in the same way that not every human is born with equal muscle distribution. claiming otherwise is simply ignorant.

>>16785936
You do know that blacks on average are already a victim to worse life circumstances than whites or Asians? This is why leftists want to uproot systemic racism, because growing up in a world that tells you you're a nigger will impact your IQ

>>16785963
Less blacks would be victims if they stopped making black people.

>>16785946
cherry picked /pol/front infographs aren't actual research, they're propaganda and misinformation

>>16785918
yes and what differentiates them are the things called genes Mr Ibu.

>>16785963
And that has never worked, nobody has ever managed to close the gap by looking at people raised in the same environment. Let alone America it hasn't worked literally anywhere on earth

>>16785963
>growing up in a world that tells you you're a nigger will impact your IQ
kek at this absolute cope

>>16785969
How about we treat black people with dignity? It wasn't too long ago that north Europeans were "niggers" living in huts and engaging in gang warfare.

>>16785971
I don't think he's referring to infographs, he's asking you to take a look at the world and draw some logical conclusions.

>>16785971
All IQ research ever done.

>>16785976
Correct. Humans have all similar genes.

>>16785985
Children who are abused and have the belief that they're stupid reinforced by adults in their lives often develop problems, the same thing happens to black people on an institutional level

>>16785986
>How about we treat black people with dignity?

>>16785990
>da world is da way it is
No the world is constantly becoming, we steer the course of evolution through our social engagement

>>16785998
People who have lived in normal households without any hint of racism still end up becoming mediocrities, not geniuses. Intelligence=/= education.

>>16785986
how about they start acting with dignity and thus deserve being treated with dignity?

>>16786015
Just being born white doesn't make you an intellectual. Smart people are educated

>>16785857
So the answer to OP in your case is "I cope by saying 'no u.'"

>>16786001
Jesus christ americans are so fucking retarded. They deserve every covid death coming to them. Fuck me I wish I lived in a sane country like China. Their president reads and reveres the classics, unlike ours who is retarded and our president elect who is a senile pedophile.

>>16786023
What part of systemic racism don't you understand? People who are educated can understand that human behavior is determined by the prevailing culture and ideology. White barbarians are everything you accuse niggers of being, yet somehow white people built cathedrals and starting developing philosophy.

>>16786026
No, smart people are born, regardless of race, they're smart. There are smart people in every race. Education can only get you so far and it's not a substitue for intelligence, which is genetic.

>>16786034
Understand that blacks choose to pursue the black lifestyle. I respect their culture as it is theirs. Doesn’t mean I don’t judge it for being antithetical to their supposed goals of assimilation and acclimation to what is not their OG standard.

If there was ever more evidence needed that /lit/ has been fully colonised by brainless /pol/tards and their R*ddit counterparts, look no further than this thread. Why can't you all just fuck off.

>>16786041
>? People who are educated can understand that human behavior is determined by the prevailing culture
You mean people who have absorbed sociology dogma that has no evidence supporting it while studiously avoiding ever reading eg. a twin study

>>16785986
>It wasn't too long ago that north Europeans were "niggers" living in huts and engaging in gang warfare.
It really was that long ago, though.

>>16785802
I think you can be a post modernist and a racist.
I am both.
Even if race is indeed a social construct. I chose to take the meta narrative pill which suggests that white aryan beauty is the my absolute truth and it must be preserved. It doesnt matter if scientifically this suggestion is bullshit. I shape my worldview into the magical thinking of white supremacy. I kjnow its a lie, but I chose to live in this post truth reality.

>>16786051
Nigger shit.

>>16786041
I understand that systematic racism is now a tool for disenfranchising white people and that merely questioning it is considered criminal in many countries

>>16786045
Intelligence is mostly constructed, the mind absorbs, it isn't pre-packaged with information about the world. It's proven that children who grow up under extreme stress will develop learning problems.

>>16786076
I think you're mistaking intelligence with knowledge. They aren't synonyms.

>>16786070
>I got bullied by twinks and dropped out of college
>muh anti white racism

>>16786069
You are unironically doing what exactly what you claim black people do to white neighbourhoods. You come in, say stupid shit, never make proper arguments, disrespect the culture of the board and then strut about in the mess you've created like you've somehow achieved something more than just the destruction of a once half-decent community. Fuck you, and fuck the R*ddit morons that engage you in earnest.

>>16785912
the concern with genetics is the liberal white bugmen's obsession originally, almost exclusively, and even today almost entirely.

The reason for this is because of the white bourg's complete mediocrity and yet spoiled nature. They have been fed a steady diet of cultural individualism and mass produced diseased food they had no part in creating since they were shat out of their similar mediocre mother.
This leads the white bourg with a variety of neuroses and a healthy double dose of narcissism and superiority complex. Having been told they are great and can achieve anything all their lives, and having had easy access to everything needed for survival with no struggle, they choose to believe it.

Once out in the world, the white bourg realizes that in fact, they are not all that special. Confronted with the real hostility and indifference of the world, the peter pan-afflicted white bourg retreats into the easy existence of their childhood. Choosing to numb their mediocrity and passivity with consumption,junk food, video games, etc.

This is also why the white bourg almost exclusively in the world, loves dogs to the degree that they will allow the animal to sleep in the same bed and even lick the bourg on the mouth.

also why so many young white girls also have sexual experiences with dogs. it's an underrepported epidemic.

Dogs have little free will. They are essentially machines that feed the ego of the owner regardless of he mediocrity and unequal nature of the relationship.
No matter how little the white bourg achieves, does, acts, or is, the dog will always look up to it like a god, this feeding the white bourg's narcissistic supply. Likewise this is why young white males almost exclusively are school shooters. When confronted with the reality of the world, and their utter inability to act inside it, they react with total delusional narcissistic auto and allo destruction. The true nature of the white bourg and of capitalism, of which they are the avatar of.
The white bug/bourg likewise will also default to genetics. It is in the nature of the white bourg to claim some sort of superiority/ any kind of superiority with something that requires no active participation in the world or action. Instead, the bourg genetic racist claims superiority on a factor that takes absolutely no work at all. It is simply immanent. Truly, a female mode of being, or even worse, simply childlike.

>>16786086
Yes they are. Intelligence without knowledge is a cope

>>16786090
>You come in, say stupid shit
What’s worth saying that isn’t already obvious to the naked eye? Oh, you probably deny common sense observations and postulate the necessity of prostrating you subjective shit all over what could otherwise be a sanitary existence.

>>16786094
Genetic essentialism is wrong. Humans are social creatures

Trump is the most post modern leader ever, and his movement is purely postmodern.
Trannies are just trying to make everything about themselves as always. Go read intersectionality faggots. Leave postmodernism to the thinking crowds.

>>16786094
Genetics only came to confirm what was already obvious, even if you abandon genetics the world still looks pretty similar just based on your own personal experience.

>>16785822
What part of
>>16785569
>transcendent values and all concepts that stem from them are just conventions?
Dont you understand?

>>16786096
No, they aren't. Knowledge is the collection of skills and information a person has acquired through experience. Intelligence is the ability to apply knowledge. Just because someone lacks knowledge of a particular subject doesn't mean they can't apply their intelligence to help solve problems.

>>16785569
how can mirrors be real if our eyes aren’t real?

>>16786105
We're social because we are genetically programmed to be social

>>16786112
Has it ever occurred to you that your entire worldview is based on confirmation bias? There are people with brains who understand how cultural phenomenon develops, and why things are the way they are. We live in a circumstantial world, but it can be steered rather than accepting everything as the only way things are and can ever be.

>>16786102
Discussing black people and racial IQs in a thread about postmodernism is the stupid shit I refer to. Fucking engage your brain, moron.

>>16785569
They draw the wrong conclusions from the obvious shit that they “found out”.

>>16786135
Yeah I have considered the possibility that some given race might actually be smart if they were raised differently, but I don't see much reason to believe it as things stand atm. I still accept it's possible if that's what you're asking

>>16786120
Okay, I guess the post-modernists aren't right about everything they said. They do make a couple of good points though.

>>16786140
Stupid thread deserves derailment.

>>16786132
Nope, thought determines reality.

>>16786151
What was stupid about the OP post? It was a simple prompt.

>>16786096
The real cope is knowledge without intelligence.

>>16786140
It's a good topic to analyze with a post modern lens.

>>16785569
post modernist retardation is so high it can only be matched by their narcissism

>>16786152
does that apply to other social animals too?

>>16786144
whether a race is smart or not doesnt change the fact that you individually, are a dumb little bitch.

>>16786164
What you consider intelligence is retardation, go figure

>>16785569
>How do you cope?
Well:
>Off grid cabin
>Physical and social isolation
>Grow your own food
>/lit/
>try not to think about it

>>16785569
>postmodernists are right

Let's play How to spot a liar.

>>16786164
top notch

>>16786167
That's not what's happening though, is it. We're a couple of posts away from someone posting FBI crime statistics. As far as I can see, there isn't a single poster here who's actually engaged with any po-mo theory once.

>>16786170
Not to the same extent, or at least possibly on a much slower timeline. We have the gift of language and imagination, we can transfer complex information relatively quickly and with ease.

>>16785870
>the current science suggests!
Lol. Drink less soi yea

>>16786163
>how do you cope with *banality*
It’s the promoted interjection. Maybe if it wasn’t so shoehorned & intentionally designed for agitation I wouldn’t reagitate.

>>16786177

This is also an acceptable cope to any other problem, too.

>>16786185
we're a bunch of pseuds shitposting in a pseud thread. what did you expect?

So with enough time and patience can you make someone with downs syndrome understand post-modernism?

>>16785569
>Being told you can do anything
>'MOMMY MOMMY I'M SCARED HOW DO I COPE'
>>16785798
>rapist566
>Look I can be naughty now tee hee
>Plays with his doo doo
Do you have that little imagination? Are you so scared of living?

>>16786195
I am going to wageslave for just enough time to afford land + cabin + startup. Then its /lit/ hermit time. Probably gonna die of incompetence.

>>16786209
Down syndrome is a severe genetic disease, being black isn't.

>>16786172
You're just coping.

>>16786217
I disagree. Both are genetic curses.

>>16786194
OP is obviously prompting us to discuss the impacts of losing faith in metanarratives as we enter the post-modern era. His prompt is worded badly, but not so badly that the only conclusion should be to argue over whether black people are born less smart than white people. It's just ridiculous, maybe I need to take a break from the site until some of the kids leave.

>>16786218
So you have "scientific" evidence that people with African phenotypes can't learn or understand information? And this "scientific" evidence was based on African Americans from inner cities who have the baggage of generations of systemic racism and cultural affirmations that they're niggers?

>>16785870
>dont understand where you people get your ideas.
From the daily experience of having to cope that they were born with that subpar IQ and will never be able to change it, “I can’t stand the fact that I wasn’t born from smart parents”

>>16786231

Jesus fucking Christ.
Maybe whites are more intelligent, and maybe you guys are right in masturbating yourself intellectually over how much Mommy Nature wets herself over your big engorged brains, but you are all posting on /lit/, which means you (and I, admittedly, but I'm also white) are all lazy fuckers who wasted whatever intelligence genetics OR environment deemed to bestow upon you.
So suck a massive horsecock, you bunch of cunts.

>>16786231
Women wouldn't find them attractive if that were the case, but black males tend to do fine

>>16786094
>all of this text for the "white girls fuck dogs" gag

>>16786204
You're not even a pseud, there's not even a pretension to intelligence here. You're all just boring.

>>16785835
>Man is mostly a blank slate
LOL citation fucking needed. Dumbest take I've read in days. I need to get off /lit/ I honestly can't stand how retarded some of you are. Also where do you think culture and ideology come from? They come from man. Man's nature forms culture not the other way around.

>>16786144
You only have to look at how incredibly retarded any white person is in a redneck hick farming town.
Anti-intellectualism is bad in black communities but it's just as horrible in rural white communities

>>16785848
The situation you are born into still plays a huge role, even for someone developmentally challenged. As an analogy, imagine you were a "natural" human in a culture of mostly cyborgs. Would you be disabled if the world around you was built for cyborgs, not you?

>>16786258
>man's nature
Shill your modernism elsewhere, bugman.

>>16786258
>Man's nature forms culture not the other way around.
Why has white culture differed so dramatically in the past 2000 years? You're telling me that genetics determined barbarism, empires, feudalism, catholicism, protestantism, paganism, industrialization, capitalism, communism, and liberalism?

>>16786257
I'm multiple personas in this thread each with his own distinct typing style. I might even be you replying to myself. At least one of them is a true pseud.

>>16786258
>how retarded some of you are
Quit projecting and pretending to be superior to anyone here, you are the opposite

>>16786240
I'm not the guy you were arguing with orignally.

>>16785936
>other end of the spectrum asians are obviously better than whites
They’re not. China fakes their IQ scores and Korea and Japan are on the same level as Europe’s best countries
Comparing three Asian countries to “white people” (Europe) is retarded
Take a look at India, Laos, Indonesia, they are all Asian too, brainlet
>>16785963
Dear retard, explain to us how Asians put in concentration camps during WW2 and who come from miserable conditions in socialist countries still manage to open businesses just fine wherever they go. Why isn’t there a single successful African country, and why were all blacks in the Stone Age before Arabs arrived. Why isn’t there a single successful black diaspora. Why do they commit crime and reach poverty everywhere they go (England, China, North Africa, Burgerland, Haiti, Brazil, France, Israel)
You can’t, because you’re a coping retard

>>16786264
All burgers are dumb as dirt
Why do you think they are all scared of niggers and jews

>>16786088
Nice gets nigger

>>16786292
>all oppression is equal
No.

>>16786292
>Asian put in concentration camps during ww2
daily reminder that the japs slaughtered innocent nurses on a beach
and students of Nigerian descent in UK score higher on tests than white brits

>>16786251
Many women don't find them attractive precisely because of their appearence. Wide nose, thick lips, bug eyes, ugly wool hair, shit-colored skin, awful smell. Nature must've really hated the blacks. Some of them are alright despite being basically handicapped, though. And those are the ones who ultimately matter.

>>16786251
They don’t. Blacks, both male and female, are the least sought after partners in the interracial sex market; why you ask? For the same reason, though less intense, that humans don’t find cats sexy besides for mentally ill fetishists. Eurasians split in evolution from blacks around 100k years ago, it’s natural that due to higher genetic and phenotypical affinity, caucasoids and mongoloids will have more attraction between each other, though they still more attraction to themselves, as is the norm and the normal

>>16786316
Funny because Nigerians commit over 50% of the crime in London despite being 13% of the population
I wish I was joking, but I’m not.
>>16786306
It’s time for your sociology of antisemitism online class, Jimmy

>>16786366
>bbbut they commit crime too!
yeah no one cares my original point still remains. keep up with the discussion lowiqtard

>>16786341
>Eurasians split in evolution from blacks around 100k years ago, it’s natural that due to higher genetic and phenotypical affinity, caucasoids and mongoloids will have more attraction between each other, though they still more attraction to themselves, as is the norm and the normal
Maybe it's due to some gene considering that both Caucasoids and Mongoloids have Neanderthal blood in them. Nigs don't have it.

>>16786391
big if true

>>16786391
What magical properties is contained in Neanderthal blood?

>>16786425
Intelligence.

WE WUZ NEANDERTHAL RAPE BABIES N SHIIIIEETTT

>>16786430
Neanderthals weren't more intelligent than Africans

>>16786449
they were

>>16786457
Were they???

I reject the notion of IQ differences between races. You can find niggers who have the potential to be a rocket scientist in a jungle.
It doesnt really matter though, because the WOKE anticolonialist movement is NOT POSTMODERNISM.
Postmodernism rejects grand narratives yet intersectional faggot theory believes in grand narratives of oppression with the endgame being REVENGE on straight white males .
White people are more racist today than 15 years ago, because POCs and trannies want to humiliate them and seek historical revenge towards europeans and patriarchy.

>>16786457
Tell me about Neanderthal high tech civilization

>>16786463
I agree that a 150 iq Black is preferable to a 90 iq White but why should we disregard trends among groups?

>>16786463
critical theory is about addressing current shitty circumstances from past narratives

>>16786425
The blood of mud hut dwelling rapists and pillagers.

>>16786446

This thread is absolute cancer distilled and refined into something even worse that doesn't have a name or concept to represent it.

>>16786459
Yes.

>>16786490
No

>>16786463
>I reject the notion of IQ differences between races. You can find niggers who have the potential to be a rocket scientist in a jungle.
We're talking about averages here, not outliers.

>>16786459
Uh-huh. They were smarter than all of us.

>>16786474
>but why should we disregard trends among groups?
We shouldnt. Its quite clear there is a trend among right wing polcels that they are failures in life, socially academically and physically. That they cling to race realism as a cope that they themselves are at the bottom of the barrel.

>>16786031
sure, i don't really have a dog in this fight. the arguments have been laid out plainly for millennia. im not going to try convincing him if thomas aquinas, augustine or luther etc couldn't convince him.
>>16786189
im a bodybuilder lol go to /fit/ and i'll post fizeek. but most of the current replicable studies suggest genetics to be more influential than environment. cope how you want.

>>16786264
They have lower average IQs there because the smart people have been leaving for generations. Idk why you guys are so incapable of grasping the nuances of iq distributions
>>16786171
Yes I know you're mad

>>16786495
Yes, they were. That's why Caucasians and Asians are smarter than Niggers. Eurasians have Neanderthal blood.

>>16786503
outliers kind of disprove your existentialist notions

>>16786490
>>16786504
Okay then why did we breed them out of existence? Haven't we confirmed that it was mainly Homo Sapiens BVLLS breeding hardly Neanderthal women? I kind of doubt that they were thinking about the moral implications of having children.

>>16786504

Not smart enough to fuck off when the winter got too bad. All those Quebecers in Florida? Smarter than Neanderthals.

>>16786516
essentialist* gay autocorrect is gay

>>16786508
Yes okay fine but what about this? Bear in mind that I was the one who said I'd take a 150iq Black over a 90iq White.

>>16786514
>being such a materialist brainlet science loving atheist cuck that you think some rock banging grugs define how we are as individuals in the year 2020
kys and burn in hell, i hope you never reincarnate and if you do its as a nigger

>>16786516
They don't. What matters is the average. The average white is smarter than the average nigger. Just facts, don't need to get all salty.

>>16786522
Continent ravaged by countless wars, power struggles and exploitation from more powerful states going after them resources.

>>16786525
>if you admit humans are animals that evolved you must be from reddit!
ok lol

>>16786517
>>16786518
I think they made a conscious decision to go extinct. They realized that life just isn't worth it.

>>16786525
It's just how things are. Eurasians have the intelligence genes and joggers don't. Joggers were made for slavery or for being pets (which is how they're seen in the US and the UK).

>>16786534
every other continent has countless wars and invasions too

>>16786522
>South Korea

Are they the master race lads?

>>16786531
The average is dependent upon education and material needs being met.

>>16786478
Adressing shitty circumstances from past narratives by creating shittier circumstances as retribution towards straight whites.
The only losers from intersecionality are going to be the white working class.
We know how this works tranny.

>>16786557
Education=/=intelligence.

>>16786560
Treating others fair is not mistreatment towards white males, please have sex

>>16786537
You are from reddit kys

>>16786552
Western nations do? Interesting. Wasnt aware that there was a military coop in Canada.

>>16786557
apart from having enough food as a child, and having basic contact with other humans, it really makes barely any difference

>>16786563
I forgot Neanderthals blood contained Einstein

>>16786534
I suppose that it's 100% socio-cultural in the USA, too?
>>16786539
Kinda based desu.
>>16786553
They're smort for sure.

>>16786534
cope, you monkeys just don't have Neanderthal blood. deal with it and use it at your advantage (if you can).

>>16786563
>I GOT DA STREET SMARTS I DONT NEED NO BOOK LEARNIN
cope

>>16786567
Are you even allowed to argue for IQ and race on Reddit?
>have Western nations had wars
LOL

>>16786574
>in the USA
Forced ghettos, forced crack and heroin epidemics, little funding given to schools in black communities, anti-intellectual culture pushed by (jew owned) media, fast food. If you are too stupid to see this shit then you are just stupid, bro.

>>16786564
Forced affirmative action in work places and universities is systemic racism towards white working class people.
Like I said your endgame isnt fairness but humiliation of anything european and patriarchical. Its not even up to debate at this point.

>>16786594
If they are smart, why are they so easily manipulated?

>>16786581
Mhmm lets see. There was WW1, whites sperging and killing other whites. Then there was WW2, whites sperging and killing even more whites.

>>16786603
If whites are so smart, why are they so easily manipulated by social issues and identity politics?

>>16786577
>I GOT DA EDUCATION PAPER I DONT NEED NO INTELLIGENCE
cope

>>16786604
and yet those ravaged nations somehow bounce right back

>>16786610
Because both whites and joggers are inferior to Jews, but joggers are inferior to whites.

>>16786614
Because the war stops :^)
War never stops in Africa is goes round and round and round. But I think thats more a character of the land than its people.

>>16786094
>being an Asioid mutt
>posting WGFD on the internet to escape, for a moment, the reality of your existence into the fleeting misanthropic glee of a servant secretly mocking his master

>>16786619
Jews won the culture war. Their religion which is also a cultural identity and the fact that they look similar to Europeans allowed them to gain control of European countries without detection.
Jewish Asian marriage is on the rise according to an Israel news website. They're getting ready to covertly subvert the new rising super power no doubt.

>>16786662
cope and larp

>>16786594
>If you are too stupid to see this shit then you are just stupid, bro.
It just seems like a profoundly convenient explanation that it's ALWAYS a social and/or cultural thing. Nobody disagrees that ethnicity has very tangible impacts on phenotype, bone structure, height/weight, etc. However as soon as we suggest that perhaps the brain, an organ like the rest, is also influenced by divergent evolution people get viciously upset.

>>16785569
If you're not a nihilist by your mid 20's you have failed as an intellectual.

>>16786870
Its quite obvious that the alphabet agency tactics were only as successful as they are because the black people basically let it happen.
Doesnt change the fact though. There could have been a movement in the last half century to bring them up but instead its just been to further put them down and now the entire "gotta get below them ourselves" kind of shit.

>>16786870
Nobody is upset, you're just retarded. The human brain is something malleable and adaptive. The human condition from the perspective of what people has changed dramatically in the course of 2000 years, and many of those changes occurred in a relatively short timespan

>>16786882
Okay but you didn't engage with my suggestion that perhaps divergent evolution influenced the brain like it did the skull, bone structure, fat and muscle distribution, pigmentation, etc.

>>16786879
Whatever you say, Rick.

>>16786879
I'm not even 22 and I'm already feeling the nihilism hard. I didn't get to have my fun and flowery retard years.

>>16786879
I was a nihilist from ages 20-23 but no I have found the light.

>>16786890
>The human brain is something malleable and adaptive.
Correct but nigs and abbos aren't humans. Only Eurasians can be considered humans.

>>16786938
>>>/reddit/

>>16786879
Nihilists are right on some level, but they never act in accordance with their beliefs. Just use them to pad their ego while they drift through life.

>>16787179
>but they never act in accordance with their beliefs.
What do you mean by this.

>>16785569
By realizing that they're lying for the interests of global capital, and that most have an ethnic interest in doing so.

>>16786034
>i wish Brand X customers would all die to prove i purchased the right consumer ideology!

They're pathetic and you're worse.

>>16786240
https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2020/09/30/on-proposed-environmental-causes-of-the-american-black-white-iq-gap/

>>16785835
>People are determined by their cultural and ideological narratives, not be their genes

>open catalog
>philosophy thread with 200 replies
>is this it? are they actually discussing postmodernism?
>somehow racism is brought up
>thread now revolves around /pol/ rhetoric
every. fucking. time.

>>16787353
Maybe if Western philosophy of the last 50 years didn't also you wouldn't see that. Perhaps you should start a thread about Schopenhauer.

>>16785822
IQ is fake
https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39

>>16785569
by knowing that this is laughably false

>>16785569
Malleate my need to piss mate

> In the sense that humans are malleable down to their core and transcendent values and all concepts that stem from them are just conventions?
Evidence?

>>16787353
50 years of propaganda will do that to people. It's important for the sake of your sanity to ignore all discussions of race.

>>16787560
Two paragraphs in he starts bitching about
>unquantifiables
>that test designers are "unsophisticated nerds"
>"racists" and "sinister eugenicists" like the metric
>It's immoral
>mensa members are losers with unstylish footwear
Also
>"real life" as he defines it can be anything, therefore success is subjective, therefore IQ means nothing
>dubious statistical infrences

The high IQ version of "tests be raciss."

>>16786281
BASED

>>16785569
>humans are malleable down to their core and transcendent values and all concepts that stem from them are just conventions
This is not an exclusively post-modern thesis wtf.
A fish may live in a bowl for years, but it may thrive in a pond.
That's the issue with most postmodernists, its validating all worldviews and opinions when they have even an ounce of reasonable causality.

>>16786258
>provides no source for intelligence being mainly genetic
Also holy shit you cannot possibly think culture is anything more than artifice, our minds are not nearly specialized enough to form a whole fucking culture from nothing. Culture is shaped by environment and history, not "man's nature". The same man can be a saint or a serial killer.
>>16786276
nice how there's no counter to this

>>16785822
different anon but I'm saying it's not a significant difference and primarily if not entirely because of the things that surround race such as bad nutrition, bad/little education, lowered expectations, cultures focused around just being good enough and not excelling, etc.

>>16785848
in the absence of disorders, i.e. for most people, there's no real difference

>>16785886
Humans are so genetically similar that if we were dogs we would all be the same breed and if we were rats we would all be incest babies. Chimps are well outside that range of similarity. That said we should be nicer to them than other animals because of how close they are to us.

>>16785936
east Asia cheats and fudges their numbers, and testing is pretty woeful in sub-saharan Africa so it's hard to rely on those numbers, so the best we can really do is compare different flavors of white and mild brown

>>16786292
>Why isn’t there a single successful African country
>what is Nigeria
>what is Uganda

>>16788469
Can you put a limit on how genetically divergent something must be for us to not identify with it?

>>16785569
>In the sense that humans are malleable down to their core and transcendent values and all concepts that stem from them are just conventions?
This is the kind of bait that can be dealt with only by taking it at face value, so here goes: For the purpose of making thought-experiments one can start with almost any axiom, but this assertion about what postmodernists assert is too obviously contrary to experience to be worth anyone's trouble of running with it, never mind that what they do assert is marginally less silly. Not to mention the suspiciously equivocal sense in which the term "transcendent" is used, to evade the distinction between qualities observed to be universal in both the natural world and in animals sufficiently intelligent for reflection, and those that are purported to be universal by authoritarians and other solipsistic apes who either continue to imagine that the universe was made for them alone in mind, or pretend that they do to make slaves of the retarded. tldr: OP is a massive cunt, in the line of Prince Hal or Iago or Edmund, but much dumber, uglier inside and out, more crude and witless at dissembling, and always will be, and as such should never attempt Montaigne, or any of the reflective poets either.

>>16788443
>The same man can be a saint or a serial killer.
Twin studies show that the same man will have the same profession and smoke the same brand of cigarette regardless of environment. Not everything people come up with is man's nature, but most of it is.

>>16785739
Beyond based and highly underrated

>>16785569
Wrong. There are transcendent values, they animate all life forms and all consciousness. They’re just alien to human conventions.

>>16785822
/pol/ is a few boards over, retard.

>>16789299
Twins are creepy and have a shared subconscious.

Just going to leave this here.

>>16785815
all of human struggle has been about recognition. Unification and balance is the answer

>>16787533
Retard cunt. You’d not read a single postmodern philosopher or critical theorist, and it’s painfully obvious. Fuck off.

>>16785569
By being a rightwing post-modernist and also calling to Heidegger and his rejection of existence precedes essence.

post-modernism is a brainlet trap

>>16785835
>Man is mostly a blank slate
le tabula rasa dullard detected.

>>16785857
>caring about rationalists and ''arguments''

>>16787911
Enlightenment, BLM, human rights held as truth, i fucking love science

>>16786094
BASED BASED BASED

>>16786366
>Funny because Nigerians commit over 50% of the crime in London despite being 13% of the population
>I wish I was joking, but I’m not.
Can you not post blatant misinformation?
Blacks commit 3% of the crime in the UK whilst being 3% of the population

Can someone pls tell my why we take right-wingers seriously when it comes to race and IQ? The morons claiming there's voter fraud just because their zionist billionaire daddy lost an election are the ones propagating the "niggers so dumb" meme. Can we trust people devoid of intellectual honesty to tackle complex and nuanced subjects - such as nature vs nurture - in good faith?

>>16791231
essentialists are dullards

>>16789793
How is that post modernism?

>>16785569
Flap your arms all you like, you aren't going to fly.

>>16792408
>builds aircraft that can fly across the globe
oh

>>16792364
Because they have guns and institutional power despite their abject retardation

>>16792414
>flying in an airplane is exactly the same as believing you can fly if you really really really believe it

>>16792364
Right wingers can overwhelm you with retard strength, it's not that their ideas are good but they have a tendency to multiply like cancer cells and destroy everything.

>>16792422
yes. perhaps one day we'll be able to self engineer an ability to fly or travel as light beings, anything is possible with imagination

>>16785569
It's really neither here nor there; post-modernism is filled with its own dogmas that are really just a pure inversion of Hegelian dogmas. This is why it attracts morons like shit attracts flies.

>>16792387
Do you reject the idea that Heidegger is post-modern and that there aren't ideas and implications in his thought that might be interpreted to lean more right than left? As I understand it, some of his more Marxist students criticized him exactly on those points as far as his more conservative implications.

Existence precedes essence being wrong is also explained in his Letter on Humanism as it is, in his eyes, a mischaracterization of his thought as it still relies on the very metaphysical concepts which Heidegger had sought to go past in Being and Time.

I'm fully accepting of the idea that I might be wrong though, but I do think that the strictly progressive slants of progressivism are overblown and that there is a rich rightwing sensibility in it too which has been covered up by the eternal crusade of the ideologue. The focus on the Young Hegelians over the Right Hegelians reflects this trend of intellectual masturbation in those leagues.

>>16792473
*as far as his more conservative implications go.

*strictly progressive slants of post-modernism

man, I need sleep

>>16785822
>ignore
No
>understand it properly instead of jumping to conclusions
This

>>16786088
Twinks "bully" like girls

This thread was so good and then it became a race issue just like the rest.

>>16792432
No, there are physical limits to everything, including your beliefs.

>>16792645
Culture is downstream of race. Niggers tongue my anus.

>>16785569
>In the sense that humans are malleable down to their core
yeah I don't know about that

>>16792645
ironically its always leftists who start this by summoning the poltards, see >>16785802
as good leftists they then proceed to blame poltards for starting to derail the thread

>>16792662
What exactly are /pol/ lurking white incels doing for the world culturally? Race itself is an obsolete and loaded conceptualization that just doesn't matter as much as people on here want it too. What it means to be white consistently changes, what it means to be black or Asian also changes. What you consider as racial essence is a construct

>>16785569
they're not
t bio anthro

>>16792645
There are plenty of nazis out there who are nihilistic, just waiting for a chance to roll on others

>>16792432
You're either an idiot or an optimist, but I repeat myself.

>>16792654
Are you implying that we reached the limits of belief? Do you actually think that /pol/ and it's redpills are the pinnacle of human ideology and imagination?

>>16793471
pessimism is bound by ego

>>16789748
>you didn't see the flash you just breathed the fallout what do you know of nuclear war

A lot of it is semantically illegible. Derrida, Deluze, et al... Pomo kulturcrit is impressionist poetics with philosophese as the substrate and neologisims as decoration. The lesser acolytes transliterate the gibberish under fluorescent lights and babble inanely about what they skimmed. Each playing with his own paredolia. Each telling the others of his reading in the tea leaves. Whomever has the cleverest turn of phrase receiving approving nods from his fellows. Each secretly calculating how many sucked dicks stand between himself and a thankless sinecure.

Out of this morass a justifcation of power is woven. A skein of ideological subunits. Mass migration of labor good. All bipeds identical. Race, class, nation: obsolete. These memes and more form the pattern of a gossamer ideology wrapped around the shoulders of global capitalism. The leviathan stands regal in its homosexual regalia. So thin and sere as to be invisible. You criticize because you don't understand. Our Emperor wears clothes, by Darwin!

*tips fedora*

Fuck you and your midrash cargo cult.

By knowing that upcoming energy and farming technology as well as genetic engineering will allow humans to build breakaway civilizations and thus construct new myths in the absence of the judeo-christian retardation that has gripped the entire world. They might become cannibals and sex slave dens but still, it'll be a step in the right direction.

>how do you cope that whoever controls the media controls the entirety of a humanity's thought process
I haven't coped with this one, I'm still seething.
I mean, forget about everyone else being retarded, what about me? I'm retarded, I have bullshit myths floating around in my brain causing AIDs and malware, and I have no idea how to detect it or get it out.

>>16785569
Transcendent values don't exist. Everything is material.

Theorycels masturbate with words while STEMfags accomplish things.

>>16785739
Absolutely based.

This thread is evidence that pomo's are entirely correct, literally every single interpretation that has been posted about "race and IQ" here is blatantly retarded, from libtard to conservashit. Thus proving that you fags believe whatever the fuck you NEED to believe in order to FUNCTION so that you don't HURT YOURSELF or your EGO. Reality and formal studies be damned.

Let's start here: intelligence is a subset of behavior. Genes not only set boundaries for intelligence but also personality. Environmental factors will "fill in" a 'point' somewhere in the 'range' provided by genetics. Thus, both genetics and the environment play a role in shaping a mind's ability and limits. Over time, environment will permanently affect genes, and racial groups interbred for thousands of years, separately. QED.

>nature or nurture
both, you absolute nigger
>humans beings are malleable down to their core
No, there are multiple boundaries and limits on what the "core" is how malleable it can be, depending on what ideas you fed them first.

I don't think post-modernism even posits that human beings are malleable to core. The idea literally is that people search for myths rather than truth--myths that sit comfortably in the tetris-like box of other myths that sits inside people's minds.
So a person is only so malleable as what myths you feed them first. The more myths they acquire the less malleable they become, depending on what the myth is.

This entire idea operates at the software level, not hardware; no post-modernist is talking about feral children raised by wolves, russian sleep experiments, david bourne indoctrination, or youtube's mk-ultra psycho training videos aimed at kids.
Post-modernists are wannabe psychologists (which is why everyone hates pomo) and the only good one was Nietzsche.

There's more that I left out. If you've read Genealogy of Morals, you're closer to a real human bean then the rest of em.

>>16794166
>I'll just say a lot of words until he gets bored
Yeah, you've not read any of it, have you? You even spelt Deleuze wrong lol

>>16794681
I actually slogged through A Thousand Plateaus just to make sure I'd done it. And because the title does sound cool. That's half the draw.

Hundreds of pages of NLP-wannabe horseshit for a message that fits one paragraph:

>Soon global capital will destroy every organic human community with historical roots. The human race will be one fluid labor pool. Everyone will form contingent, ephemeral relationships that mean nothing. They'll race all over the globe eating fast food and trying to pay down debt. But since I say it in this really abstruse, hip way that feels kinda scifi and kinda futurist IT'S FUCKING COOL OMG.

That's it. Deluze in five sentences. I don't care how his name is spelled, fuck you you dumb faggot.

>>16785739
FPBP

>>16785569
There is only one reality. What we think of it are just variations on a theme.

>>16795538
>There is only one reality. What we think of it are just variations on a theme.

Yes, yes, well done - HOWEVER, it can safely be said that one variation is closer to reality than the other; much less what is perceived and is unperceived varies.

>>16795704

>>16786177
>>How do you cope?
>Well:
>>Off grid cabin
>>Physical and social isolation
>>Grow your own food
>>/lit/
>>try not to think about it

disagree with you on >try not to think about it thats some average rick and morty redditor fanboy talk. be a man, face existance, and trust in god,

>>16786264
Anecdote.

>>16785569
>surface level and obstructive take on postmodernism
/lit/...

>>16792364
Pure strawman faggotry.

>>16785879>>16785879
>They don't define who a person is, unless they're rather extreme.
>materialism bad
>>16785879
>The body is a means towards an end, even a body with a few setbacks can still be useful as a vehicle.
>idealism good

>>16792381
So are reductionists of all varieties.

>>16793255
>ironically its always leftists
4chan is full of fanboys, ideologues, hired shills, glowies and trolls, you're a moron if you genuinely think it's just leftists.

>>16796767
Only jews and Nazis have real goals or know what's going on.

>>16786152

>>16796862
Keep telling yourself that.

>>16795524
Please stop posting, you’re embarrassing yourself. You’ve painfully misunderstood Deleuze.

>>16795524
utterly based

>>16797338
utterly cringe

>>16788459
I do love how you retards fear the idea that one person could possibly be inherently superior to another. Schizo Teddy was right about you.

>>16792364
>Can someone pls tell my why we take left-wingers seriously when it comes to minimum wage and universal healthcare? The morons claiming there's systemic injustice in our society that consequently needs to be adressed systemically are the ones propagating the "trans women are women" meme. Can we trust people devoid of intellectual honesty to tackle complex and nuanced subjects - such as nature vs nurture - in good faith?

>>16797502
faggot

>>16798269
kike

>>16797513
He literally said and did nothing wrong.

>>16785569
>humans are malleable down to their core
Not quite
>and transcendent values and all concepts that stem from them are just conventions?
Trip on DMT, which you already have in your system, and see if this is true.

ps. Human race was created to be a slave race, and has been molded many a times to be a slave race. Unlike gazelles, we have to learn basic motor skills instead of having them innately.

Do you guys use a rubber bit to bite down on or do you just tuck your pipe in between your teeth?

>>16785768
What is this gay shit?

>>16798304
retard

>>16786034
Unfathomably based

>>16785822
>so you're saying we should ignore racially based IQ data?
Yes. Race has little to do with IQ. There are probably some places where you genetics help with your intelligence, but for the most part humans are malleable.