/lit/ - Literature

Books are just manipulated information

>>16776236
You realize banning this book proves everything he says correct?

>>16776247
but do the mods who enforce the banning of this book on this board realize that?

>>16776236
Haven't read it, but I assume if it made any good points the resident /pol/tards here would have regurgitated them here by now

>>16776280
It's basically your brain on ethnic paranoia/obsession

>>16776254
>mods
I was talking about the fags on Amazon. The mods are finicky fags here, and discussion is based on which homo is currently on a power trip

>>16776286
>noticing trends
>paranoid obsession
Post timestamped foreskin

>>16776280
nah this book and all discussion of it is banned here

>IF IT WAS TRUE I WOULD HAVE HEARD ABOUT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you are literally a retarded animal

Chapter 4: Jewish Involvement in the Psychoanalytic Movement

p. 106: “A great deal of hostility to psychoanalysis centered around the perceived threat of psychoanalysis to Christian sexual ethics.”

pp. 109-18: In his private writing, Freud was very anti-gentile.

p. 113: Adler and Jung were expelled as heretical.

pp. 117-18: In Civilization and Its Discontents, Freud said that the repression of sex (particularly in Christianity) is the source of civilization, but that the price to be paid is neurosis and unhappiness. He claimed that psychoanalysis could cure that sickness, and he advocated greater sexual freedom. Psychoanalysis is pseudoscience.

The Scientific Status of Psychoanalysis

p. 121: Freud’s claims (theories) were always stated in ways that are scientifically untestable.

p. 123: He always equated (or confused) sexual desire with love.

p. 124: Responsibility (the id) is seen as pathological, repressive, something that prevents self-realization.

Psychoanalysis as a Political Movement

p. 127: Freud’s disciples regard all of his words as absolute truth – nothing is ever questioned.

p. 132: Psychoanalysis resembles brainwashing.

Psychoanalysis as a Tool in the Radical Criticism of Western Culture: The Wider Cultural Influence of Freud’s Theory

p. 134: Roman and Christian monogamy meant an egalitarian system, instead of a few men having all the women, and others having none. In polygamy the women are “reduced to chattel and are typically purchased as concubines by wealthy males.”

p. 136: Monogamy in turn led to high-investment parenting, and to pair-bonding (compassionate marriage).

Psychoanalysis and the Criticism of Western Culture

p. 141: “. . . Radical individualism among gentiles is an excellent prescription for the continuation of Judaism as a cohesive group.”

p. 145: “Anti-Semitism is viewed as a form of gentile psychopathology.”

p. 150: “Since 1970 the rate of single-parenting has increased from one in ten families to one in three families. . . . All the negative trends related to the family show very large increases that developed in the mid-sixties. . . .”

>>16776310
Noticing that a bunch of people in the ruling class are at least 1% Jewish isn't the shocking revelation you think it is
>>16776320
Been here since 2011 and still somehow you retards have yet to make a single convincing argument

>>16776247
Antisemitic drivel and no it only proves that hate speech is not free speech. Wanna read the book? Just download it in pdf, it shouldn't be too hard to find given the amount of poltard websites.

>>16776280
>regurgitation
It is, the thesis isn’t even really that controversial, Jewish nepotism has led to Jews giving other Jews positions in banking and political institutions, eventually leading to them being over represented in these institutions.

you can read it but you have to expose yourself to female pheromones afterwards to reclaim your objectivity

>>16776339
>hate speech is not free speech
All speech is free speech, stop being a giant faggot

>>16776336
>at least 1%
>misunderstanding the Jew this bad
Timestamped foreskin or your contribution to this thread will continue to be interpreted as malicious misinformation

>>16776364
Honestly, does it matter? You can be arrested for those things either way and no, it doesn't prove a point.

>>16776376
I'll do so right after you

>>16776381
>no u
Hey, Jude

>>16776336
you're a retarded animal ruled by unnatural fits of emotion, the structures of your brain are disproportionate due to intense hyperstimulus/brainwashing

>>16776310
Schizos notice trends, pattern recognition isn't the ultimate redpill when you take into account context, cause and effect rather than appealing to your own prejudices

>>16776380
Of course it matters, why do you get to decide what speech is acceptable? By banning it they're only showing they fear it, otherwise they'd just have debunked it which they haven't.

>>16776351
but the implication of that thesis beg many questions and give support to many other theses about jews

>>16776396
>context, cause, and effect
Yes, and all three of those are "ethno-religious nepotism"

>>16776384
Found the self hating Jew
>>16776386
t. got mad on a Chinese Mahjong imageboard

>>16776236
The fact that Europe, one of few places in the world friendly to Israel, is becoming filled with anti-semitic Muslims is proof that Jews don't control a thing.

>>16776396
says the retard who doesn't take into account context, cause, or effect while appealing to its own prejudices

>SORRY YOU HAVE TO DO WORK TO HAVE A VALID OPINION
>NOT ME THOUGH

>>16776398
My point is merely that the existence of some genuine, rational concern in no way means that the book is being silenced by a cabal of Jews.

>>16776405
>>16776418
seething smooth brains

>>16776409
only people who accuse others of being mad are actually mad

>>16776411
>my incoherent narrative is PROOF
thank you

>>16776432
>HEHE I CAME TO THE END OF THE SCRIPTED LINES I'M PROGRAMMED WITH
>TIME FOR SOME MEMES AND VIRTUE SIGNALS
>I'M A REAL BOY

If you've ever witnessed antisemitism ramble you would realize that you're dealing with legitimate mental illness. It's the same type of mental illness that causes monkey hate, and minority hate threads on /pol/

>>16776421
What would those genuine, rational concerns be? It's an academic study. There are far more worrying books that incite violence that are sold everywhere. Plus, the people banning it and advocating for the ban are mostly jews.

>>16776332
It's just politics if it'd true it can be proven by analysis. I don't see why it has to revert to a tabloid way of asserting something is there. Christians could have been 100% for it, that doesn't explain why it would be true or matter

>>16776444
You've discovered me, I'm an NPC robot lol

>>16776449
Good thing this book isn't antisemitism ramble then. People who judge before reading are an interesting species.

>>16776433
>you're a retarded animal ruled by unnatural fits of emotion, the structures of your brain are disproportionate due to intense hyperstimulus/brainwashing
>only people who accuse others of being mad are actually mad

>>16776464
It's a tabloid on the social lives of ppl in a field. It proves nothing.

>>16776464
>that one youtube video with historical figures saying antisemetic stuff and mozart as the background music
epic sauce

>>16776421
the cabal that controls publishing, TV, movies, banking? or which one?

>>16776474
If it proves nothing, why is it banned then? Why not have it out for all the world to see what drivel it is? Oh wait. You're reaching and you know it.
>>16776480
what

>>16776421
>COINCIDENCE

>>16776421
Is the New York Times still owned by the same jewish family that founded it?

>>16776421
It's probably just a coincidence that all of the high ranking officials in the Treasury Department are jews, that probably has never happened before and it's just a coincidence.
Coincidence.

https://zogwatch.blogspot.com/p/who-controls-treasury-department.html

>>16776510
What does it prove? Almost every book published, and not published, has been rejected before. It's certainly true, as I think everything is true to a degree, but the degree is limited to tabloid basis of truth. Who cares if there's some social narrative. Let's go further and assert that Jews control the world, how do you fix and prevent this from ever happening? Even complete destruction of every Jewish aspect and memory (a tall order) wouldn't solve or prevent it from happening again. This book doesn't even go that far. It's just a historical tabloid.

>>16776509
Go back to /pol/

>>16776509
>>16776515
>>16776521
How do you prove someone isn't Jewish

>>16776515
>>16776521
>>16776527
the jewish/communist censors that infiltrated this forum in response to "gamergate" will delete these posts if not this entire thread very soon

>>16776451
There is little evidence offered that it is indeed being silenced by Jews. The notion that race science and hitpieces don't belong in the academic world is something that has been widely accepted already - you cannot publish hateful make belief and expect to be embraced warmly by your peers.

Defenders of the suggestion that the author has no anti-Semitic motifs have also had no problem admitting they view Jews as liars and conspirators against the Western world order.

>>16776527
It's probably just a coincidence GWB was excited to announce Barack as the next president. https://youtu.be/HcOgwJ9uAMQ
I can do this for anything or anyone in reality and can assert some control narrative too. It's just nonsense

>>16776509
>>16776515
>>16776521
I see things like this, but I don't get where the hate comes in. Envy? Admiration? Yes, I can understand those emotions when seeing things like this, but not hate. They are playing the game very well, that's all. Any people can accomplish that, and we should work towards dong so rather than seething.

>>16776529
>tabloid basis of truth
I'm sure you have an objective definition of that and can contrast it with your Officially True(tm) brand of truth that imbues everything you say and do with correctitude

>>16776451
>>16776542
Why don't you do us a favor and actually ground "race" in genetics and show it's more materially-causative than any other grouping of genes. That would push your narrative and science forward. Race science is a terrible ugly field rn.

>>16776549
>WHAT'S WRONG WITH POP CULTURE?
>WHAT'S WRONG WITH CENTRAL BANKING AND BOOM/BUST ECONOMIC CYCLES WITH ALL THE BUST ON MY SIDE?
>WHAT'S WRONG WITH A LEGAL SYSTEM BASED ON SUBJECTIVE INTERPRETATIONS OF PRECEDENT RATHER THAN THE LETTER OF THE LAW
and so on
you're just a cattle animal that has no awareness of anything going on

>>16776421
>>16776542
Very Jewish post.

>>16776550
Yes I ground truth on existence. The more existent it is the more true it is. Tabloid truths are less reliable than mathematical or even physical proofs. You wipe out all humanity and any sociological truth would mean nothing.

>>16776560
I really dc just do something y'all sound like housewives

why did the Jews turn on Jung so hard? He got "cancelled" pretty hard

>>16776509
you're like a little child

>>16776529
>What does it prove?
That jews being overrepresented in certain fields/functions is not merely coincidental.
>Almost every book published, and not published, has been rejected before
Any book that is rejected is not banned. False equivalency. MacDonald's books were even published by University Press until jewish action groups pressured them.
> It's certainly true, as I think everything is true to a degree, but the degree is limited to tabloid basis of truth.
I think that's just because you don't like the implications, as is the case with most people criticizing it. If you had actually read it, you'd know it's anything but a tabloid.
>Who cares if there's some social narrative.
-It's not true
-Well even if there's some truth, who cares?
Sigh.
>Let's go further and assert that Jews control the world, how do you fix and prevent this from ever happening? Even complete destruction of every Jewish aspect and memory (a tall order) wouldn't solve or prevent it from happening again.
Why are you so sure about that? Do you secretly know it's true but just don't like the implications?
>This book doesn't even go that far.
Exactly, so why is it banned? Why is it so controversial if it doesn't even go very far?
>It's just a historical tabloid.
Very weak, my dude. Anything can be considered a tabloid under your limitations for what is considered appropriate.

>>16776560
it's censored and controlled by kikes
also you're placing all the value of truth on "data" and authority rather than on philosophy, which is totally insane

>>16776535
>make my argument for me otherwise you're wrong

>>16776567
No, you misunderstand. Rather than crying that things are unfair, you need to play to win the game. If you were to create your own media free of the influences you don't approve of, that would further your cause way more than ranting on a lit forum.

>>16776602
I was just wondering, but if calling someone Jewish really is unfalsifiable then that doesn't reflect well on those jpegs does it

>>16776542
Chapter 2: The Boasian School of Anthropology and the Decline of Darwinism in the Social Sciences

pp. 20-23: The great assault on the Darwinian evolutionary approach to human societies means that now all cultures are regarded as equal. The concept of race is now said to be meaningless. We are no longer allowed to speak of three stages: savagery, barbarism, and civilization.

p. 25: Franz Boas dominated US anthropology for 40 years. He had many influential students, all of whom were Jews except Alfred Kroeber, Ruth Benedict, and Margaret Mead.

pp. 29-30: Boas and others claimed Americans were too sexually repressed and should study romantic primitivism, as shown in Mead’s Coming of Age in Samoa. H. Turner-High, J. Keegan, and L. H. Keeley, on the other hand, claimed that earlier times were not quite so idyllic, and that warfare was very common in primitive societies.

Beyond Boas: Recent Examples of Jewish Political Agendas Influencing Social Science Research

pp. 30-38: Stephen Jay Gould (Jewish) is a famous “propagandist and ethnic activist” who insists that human intelligence is environmental, not genetic.

https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=6350185

there's an lot of extremely robust evidence that they were the sole influence causing the academic censorship

everything you think is wrong, you are a husk

>>16776542
>The notion that race science and hitpieces don't belong in the academic world is something that has been widely accepted already - you cannot publish hateful make belief and expect to be embraced warmly by your peers.
And who has decided what constitutes hit pieces, and that racial science isn't allowed? You guessed it right.
>Defenders of the suggestion that the author has no anti-Semitic motifs have also had no problem admitting they view Jews as liars and conspirators against the Western world order.
What is anti-semitic about it? If it had been Chinese instead, would he have been anti-Sinitic? What if jews are indeed conspiring against the Western world order?

>>16776421
Yet it's always the ones that lay out what (and in which ways) said "cabal" silences that are being cancelled in the exact same way they describe it.
Even if they're prefacing it with that they don't intend to be antisemites.

>>16776603
>it's not the jews
>okay well maybe it's the jews
>but you're still gay and wrong you just have to play by the jewish rules
this is as good as they can do
this is as far as education can take them
they are braindead slaves to be thrown into a grinder to produce carnage

>>16776560
I'd love it if that would happen, but anything coming even remotely close is stifled. Look at the backlash Reich (who is a jew).
>Race science is a terrible ugly field rn.
Yes, because of prejudice nothing is allowed. That's very ugly when it comes to science.

Does anyone wish that the JQ and Kalargi plan were real, /pol/ makes their enemies out to be way cooler than they actually are.

>>16776599
Nothing is coincidental. The narrative you're pushing is based on housewife accusations.
I think not publishing something good is worse than "banning" books. While I disagree w banning books, you're right they're not the same in one requires good ole boy connections making him a "jew" to unpublished writers. It's just not a good mechanism in anything.
It's a tabloid in that it doesn't use science but correlation. It being "high-brow" correlation lends you the same as pollsters in the elections. Idc how high-brow it is if it has low explanatory power.
I've said multiple times it's true.
Erasing Jews does not mean another "Jews" wouldn't come along. To use your argument against you, would banning them mean they're too true? I mean Hitler tried to kill them. It's contradictory.

>>16776653
Yeah
/pol/ will go on about being "blackpilled" but unironically believe everything will magically get better once we get an ethno-state
If anything their ideology is childishly optimistic

>>16776621
>unfalsifiable
oh wow a leftist retard insisting on an arbitrary and totally illogical standard of proof to hide behind?
no way

there are many ways to identify a jew, you're a moron stuck in a concept of truth based solely on authority with floods of "data" shortcircuiting your retard brain

this is addressed in the beginning of the foreword of CoC
stop arguing against things you have no knowledge of and are willing to put no though into

>>16776602
Then prove it analytically
>>16776646
If Jews must be extinguished then why doesn't the same mechanism apply to them about them being true?

>>16776668
>STRAWMAN = WIN
>HAHAHAHAHA I'M UNSUPERVISED ON THE INTERNET I CAN DO ANYTHING AND WIN EVERY TIME

>>16776653
I don't but I get your point

>>16776653
Kind of. If there was one group or one cabal to blame for the state of the world, things would be much easier to fix than the mess that the world actually is.

>>16776599
A child can say "I like cats because peanut butter is great". It's true just particularly so.

>>16776670
>it doesn't matter that I can literally call anyone I want a Jew
Okay
>>16776680
If it were a strawman, /pol/ would barely if ever talk about racial supremacy and the Jews

>>16776656
>It'S a TaBlOid
> The narrative you're pushing is based on housewife accusations.
My dude. You keep saying yes it's true, but also that it's a tabloid. So let's assume you're right and it is a tabloid, what of it then? So long as it's true. (no, I don't think it's a tabloid).
> Idc how high-brow it is if it has low explanatory power.
>I've said multiple times it's true.
Pick one, my dude. How can it have no explanatory power if it's true?
>Erasing Jews does not mean another "Jews" wouldn't come along
It's not my intention, nor MacDonald's, to erase Jews. You somehow assume that if we criticize a group of people, we want them erased. That is your own projection. We want the practices that endanger us and our peoples outlawed.
>To use your argument against you, would banning them mean they're too true?
Banning whom?
>I mean Hitler tried to kill them. It's contradictory.
He tried to remove them. Some died in the process, which should not have happened. You're arguing against strawmen.

>>16776690
That's the exact appeal of paranoid conspiracy theories. They make the world much simpler and comprehensible rather than the bewildering chaos it actually is

>>16776706
I've always said that reactionaries view reality as if it were a cartoon

>>16776672
I don't think jews should be extinguished, that is you projecting. And what do you mean, I think MacDonald is mostly correct in his observations yes. I never denied that.

>>16776694
take your meds

>>16776715
Well you at least think Jewish racial science should be banned from the west I imagine. I don't see why it doesn't similarly apply.

>>16776721
Have kids.

>>16776653
But the Kalergi Plan is true, to say otherwise is to deny reality. It's being enacted all over (western) Europe. You can read it yourself and compare it with what is happening. People like you also think that jews are the only group who are the problem, they aren't. They're just the only one you're not allowed to criticize.

>>16776734
Even if it is you can't solve it by the instantiation of it.

>>16776236
Antisemitism is a healthy reaction.

>>16776730
Stop strawmanning. I think racial science should be based on truth, and that can only happen when it can openly be discussed. If "jewish racial science" as you call it turns out to be true, so be it, but I don't think it will.
Also ids understand actual racial relations vry well until they're indoctrinized to hate themselves if they're white, isn't that funny?

>>16776734
I'm not allowed to criticize Australian Aboriginals, not even when I'm not in Australia! How could that be so?

>>16776738
>It's not true!
>even if it is...
And how do you propose we solve it then if we can't talk about it? What a retarded take honestly.

>>16776749
That's fine just solve it. If it's true nobody will hate it.

>>16776753
Nice strawman. Australian Aborigines aren't enacting policies to replace white Australians. Now let's talk about Europe.

>>16776755
I wasn't him I just said solve it. I propose you grab that thing between your legs, pick up a lot of books on foundational subjects and write out and debate a universal framework that more properly accounts for it

>>16776759
>That's fine just solve it
Alright, stop strawmanning actual discussion then. That would help.
> If it's true nobody will hate it.
You cannot honestly be this retarded.

>>16776762
They are though
Why do you think they are safe from interbreeding with Chinese immigrants hmm?
Wake up retard

>>16776762
This is more /pol/ than /lit/, but you have to be a moron to think the Jews are benefiting from Muslims conquering Europe:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/is-it-time-for-the-jews-to-leave-europe/386279/
Read this, they are suffering a lot from the influx of migrants. They weren't dumb enough to push for this, that was moronic liberals.

>>16776770
So you had nothing to say really? Great.

>>16776773
That's how truth works. You can only hate that 1+1=2 if you have a different framework you think is more universal to it. Good luck with it I've participated in it

>>16776777
I said, let's talk about Europe, for which the Kalergi plan was written. Deal with your Chinamen on your own.

>>16776796
I did you started coping. I have a lot to say period and on the discussion. If it's too much then go study

>>16776623
>>16776632
"what is antisemitic about it"
Communists were also sent to death camps. Did Hitler go after Jews because they were Jews or because they were communists?

>>16776790
You've not read the book then. It's about certain groups of elite jews. They don't care about normie jews much more than they do about you or me. Just like elite whites don't care about normie whites. But yes, liberals are moronic, I'd agree.

>>16776805
>NOOOO DON'T TALK ABOUT THE INTERNATIONAL ABO
Like clockwork
Jesus Christ you're not even being subtle

>>16776798
No, your statement that "if it's true then nobody will hate it" is retarded, you've obviously never read a history book.

>>16776247
lmao
>if they ban it that means that jews rule the world
>if they don't ban it that means that jews rule the world

>>16776806
Alright, say what you want to say then if you have so much to contribute.

>>16776812
We were talking about MacDonald not Hitler, you absolute genius.

>>16776597
what is your point even supposed to be? you're literally braindead.
you realize that a lot of those people in that graphic are jewish right?

>>16776790
Jews have shown no reservations with hurting their own kind to further a larger goal.
Multiple false flag attacks on Synagogues in Muslim countries, for example, to increase mass immigration to Israel.

>>16776816
you're still not talking about Europe which is relevant to the Kalergi plan which we were discussing until you derailed it with your aborigines.

>>16776812
the top officials and advisors are always majority jewish

>>16776824
Those weren't true enough. Truth isn't well-systemaized as an is/is-not statement. That "white lies" or "dark enlightenment" necessarily pops up shows the limit of an is/is-not aspect of truth (not even suggesting the odd dualism, especially as applied to jews vs euros, would be). There's universality of truths. Math truths are more universal than physics truths which are more universal than biological truths.

>>16776860
Show your nose.

>>16776833
Nobody has replied to it.

>>16776842
Read the beginning of the conversation, look at who I was replying to, then read my post again.

>>16776859
That has been a straight up lie propagated by Hitler himself (who I am not allowed to talk about without getting some people upset).

>>16776860
universal on what terms?
you try to establish terms of truth without actually establishing the terms you schizophrenic retard

>>16776872
To what?

>>16776855
What's there to discuss
There's more white people in Europe than at any other point in history, if the Jews had a Kalergi Plan they fucking suck at enacting it, considering they've been at it for almost a century now

>>16776879
>Read the beginning of the conversation, look at who I was replying to, then read my post again.
I did, nothing changed.

>>16776879
at least bluff on something not so easily disproved
you fucking retard nigger animal

>>16776882
You can't be this disingenuous. There's more people everywhere in the world than ever before. Compared to other populations in Europe, the number of whites have never been this low and is still declining relatively. Seems like it's working fine but you're just retarded.

>>16776879

>>16776882
>GOALPOST TURBOSHIFT
>PROPORTION > ABSOLUTE VALUE HAHAHAHAHA

>>16776879
.

>>16776894
The conversation changed to Hitler because previous posters were quoting his rhetoric (in the same regard as the author of the paper).
You had also not shown evidence against my claim that "Defenders of the suggestion that the author has no anti-Semitic motifs have also had no problem admitting they view Jews as liars and conspirators against the Western world order." which proves the point that antisemitic conjecture is still present and those who defend it do so with bad intent.

>>16776919
>decrease in proportion => extinction
Why?

>>16776882
The funny thing is that Kalargi actually advocated for pan europeanism, in order to preserve the west. He was a European western chauvinist

>>16776931
And they are all born in America. This is somehow not relevant, only their Jewishness.

>>16776880
Establishing truth in dualisms is terrible and uninterpretable except in what is predicated.
You can say Jews vs Euros and it doesn't solve or explain anything. Saying light vs darkness says nothing about light or dark or how they operate or can be examined outside them being put against each other. Truth is better frameworked in predication monastic terms. 60 degrees is predicated off of Fahrenheit which is predicated off heat which is predicated off of energy in an object and cold is similar but the absent of such. Cold vs heat explains nothing informative except as cold vs heat.

>>16776915
>Lenin's great-grandmother might have been Jewish so Lenin was a Jew
Glad to know you guys have such low standards for calling someone Jewish lmao

>>16776955
Correct

>>16776935
I'm not previous posters. And please give me an example of where MacDonald uses anti-semitic rhetoric? Unless you mean noticing patterns is anti-semitic but then I know enough.
>You had also not shown evidence against my claim that "Defenders of the suggestion that the author has no anti-Semitic motifs have also had no problem admitting they view Jews as liars and conspirators against the Western world order." which proves the point that antisemitic conjecture is still present and those who defend it do so with bad intent.
But you think MacDonald and people like me equate all jews. We don't. We're talking about elite jews, and there is absolutely an ethnic component to it. They are liars and conspirators against the western world order, just like elite whites are, but you're allowed to point out the elite whites but not the elite jews because of "anti-semitism." You're still strawmanning.

>>16776946
>changing it is preserving it
Retard. Also misspelling Kalergi doesn't make your bait better.

>>16776964
>cherry pick one of dozens of examples
>strawman
the left are literally retarded animals, this is how they deal with all reality, they delude themselves in a never ending dance to justify the long song of jewish brainwashing in their minds

kill them all

>>16776955
That's because Jews are an international people, their ethnicity crosses boundaries. You can't be this dense.

>>16776964
Israel requires immigrants to have at least one jewish grandparent, that's their standard of jewishness

>>16777000
>That's because Jews are an international people
Jews are the real imperialists?

>>16776955
do you not understand what a gene pool is or are you just pretending to be mentally disabled?

>>16777011
Yes, unironically.

>>16777000
Then how come that plenty of Jewish Americans are all outspoken against Israel, whereas most non-Jewish Americans are neutral or positive? Why are they not furthering the goal of an increasingly powerful Jewish state?

>>16777013
Judaism is a religion.

>>16776995
Your low standards are probably enlightening for the bar graph in >>16776902
Hell by that standard who isn't Jewish

>>16776959
>don't answer the question
>schizo ramble
>"your entire argument is jew bad europe good!"
this is a truly jewish style of strawmanning

>>16777028
Because jews aren't a monolithic entity. There are right-wing and left-wing jews. Yet they're still overrepresented all across the spectrum.
I thought I was supposed to be the racist, but now you're equating all jews?
>Judaism is a religion.
And an ethnicity.

>>16777028
>>16777032
lol all these israeli kikes can do now is just repeat the boilerplate talking points

then why does israel do DNA tests to determine jewishness for immigration purposes?

>>16777028
>Judaism is a religion.
yes, but jews are an ethnoreligious group

>>16777040
>>16776902
It's just tabloid style truths. You'll get no farther than niche irrelevance w this method.

>>16777028
>Judaism is a religion.
Then why do atheist jews identify as jews? lmao

>>16777050
Who knows who cares, it's not predictive enough and being mostly jews doesn't solve anything

>>16777054
>tabloid tabloid tabloid
>You'll get no farther than niche irrelevance w this method.
Yet still hasn't refuted any of it. The irony.

>>16777050
>>16777050
Israel did not invent those laws, Germans did. Everyone considered worthy of persecution by Antisemites all around the world now have a place to stay indefinitely rather than endure pogroms.

>>16777062
>it's not true!!
>who knows who cares
Every single time

>>16777048
it's not a religion at all
it's a state - a military, economic, and legal system, but it is not spiritual at all, its concerns are purely material and immediate, the "religion" has no authority, it is entirely artificial and mutable according to the material needs of the moment and it's designed to be this way on purpose

jews are a race of imposters, they are literally not humans

>>16777069
>>16777078
I haven't refuted it, I explained the limits of it as a truth. It's not universal enough.

>>16776280
>Haven't read it, but here's my opinion
/thread

>>16777075
Yet they still enact them. Maybe the Germans were onto something then huh? Maybe it was based on jewish practices?

>>16777062
>>16777075
>Germans decide israel's immigration policy
>oh I'm wrong? who cares!
insane retard niggerkike animals

>>16777091
>it's only a truth insofar I consider it a truth
>it's not universal enough because I say so
Great. For many people it's good enough though.

>>16777086
>my ethnic boogeymen aren't humans

>>16777094
>>16777094
People born to a Jewish father but not to a Jewish mother are not considered Jewish by their laws (Halakha) but still welcome in Israel if they can prove the Jewishness of their ancestors.

>>16777091
>ur truth isn't truthy enough I can tell because I dont liek it

>>16777096
You haven't proven me wrong

>>16777098
Aren't you attacking the truth many people considers true by this book? I've justified my truth definition and haven't had a response.

>>16777102
I WANNA BE PEPE THE FROG
LOOK HOW PEPE THE FROG EXPRESSES HIS SPECIAL EMOTIONS
WHAT A PERFECT REACTION FACE HAHA XD
HE HAS NO RACE, WHICH IS FINE BECAUSE I HATE MY RACIAL IDENTITY
CAN I BE PEPE THE FROG TOO??

NO ONE CAN STOP ME! I'M A BIG BOY ON THE INTERNET WITH NO SUPERVISION
I'M PEPE THE FROG NOW!!!!!!!!
I'M A SQUIGGLY QUIRKY LITTLE CARTOON BOY
I'M SO AUTHENTIC AND ORGANIC
I'M CRUDELY DRAWN BUT THAT JUST MAKES ME EVEN SPECIALER AND MORE REAL

IT'S SO MUCH EASIER TO EXPRESS MYSELF WHEN I'M PEPE THE FROG
THERE IS A VERSION OF ME FOR EVERY OCCASION, IT'S SO PERFECT!!!
LOOK EVERYONE, I'M PEPE THE FROG, ON THE INTERNET
THESE ARE MY ELECTRONIC EMOTIONS THAT I CAN ONLY EXPRESS ON THE INTERNET
I DOWNLOADED MY CUSTOM PERSONALITY FROM 4CHAN.COM AND REDDIT.EDU

I USED TO BE LONELY BUT THEN I FOUND MY TRUE SELF ONLINE
I'M FINALLY PART OF SOMETHING, AS PEPE THE FROG
I'M PEPE THE FROG

Jew hatred stems from the fact that Jew's are nomadic, and standout in every country they reside. Jewish ethnicity is like international gypsyism, this provokes mentally deranged ultra nationalists

>>16777104
I asked you to define truth and said yours speaks of dualism then explained the benefit of a better truth mechanism in predicational monism

>>16777113
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israeli-high-court-allows-dna-testing-to-prove-judaism-1.8439615

>>16777113
Because your truth definition is arbitrary and not based in reality.

>>16777114
take your meds

>>16777094
That's the logical response to international persecution autism that considers one drop rules as valid for killing.

>>16777113
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jun/12/what-does-it-mean-to-be-genetically-jewish

>>16777103
That's because even Israel accepts basic modern genetic science. Thanks for confirming jews are an ethnic group.

>>16777113
Gene tests show that two fifths of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from four women
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1336798/

>>16777132
You can't be this disingenuous.

>>16777124
How does that prove me wrong, it's a restatement of your case. Using DNA evidence doesn't make race any bit more informative and it doesn't justify the book at all.

>>16777125
Then certainly you can prove it wrong and have applications in reality like mine does in light, heat and even this discussion.

>>16777137
>>16777137
They had let in non-Jewish people who suffered persecution too and your argument offers very little substance against the fact that they allow converts to Judaism.

>>16777113
A genome-wide genetic signature of Jewish ancestry perfectly separates individuals with and without full Jewish ancestry in a large random sample of European Americans
https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/gb-2009-10-1-r7

>>16777149
Yes, the applications are that what MacDonald states is observable. Done.

>>16777130
I WAS CONSUMING MEMES WITH THE NPC HERD
AND I SAW A GREAT CARTOON
HE'S CALLED PEPE THE FROG
HE HAS A PERFECT FACE THAT IS SO UNIQUE
IT'S JUST LIKE MY IDEAL SELF
HAHA SMUG FACE
I AM SUCH A COOL RELAXED GUY JUST LIKE PEPE
I WILL STORE A LOT OF VERSIONS OF THIS PERFECT FACE
ONE FOR EVERY OCCASSION

THIS IS MUCH EASIER THAN DEVELOPING A PERSONALITY, INTELLECT AND KNOWLEDGE
I CAN JUST USE THIS AND IT'S COOL BECAUSE IT'S SO POPULAR

EVEN THOUGH IT HAS NO CLEAR RACE OR GENDER I REALLY IDENTIFY WITH IT
I'M PRETTY FEATURELESS AND NEUTERED MYSELF

THANKS JEWISH PROPAGANDA AGENCIES, YOU MAKE SOME GREAT STUFF

>>16777135
>>16777147
That's a gene test which asserts some DNA similarity then ad hoc applies a racial category. People descend from others. That doesn't justify race but parentage and parentage can't comment on traits you use to differentiate people by "race"

>>16777152
But those people are considered non-jew Israelis. You're still proving my point.
Converts are very rare and are not considered real jews by a large majority of orthodox jews. Also, Judaism is the religion, jew is the ethnicity. They regularly overlap, in the past they greatly overlapped.

>>16777166
Yes.

>>16777158
Again that's ad hoc application of race based on some gene similarity based more properly on parentage and those genes are entierly unrelated to "iq" or "crime levels" crap. Yes people have children. That doesn't justify race.

>>16777167
>what is a gene pool, what is an ethnicity
alright retard

>>16777161
So worship Macdonald as truth. Study math through him. It's bs and you know it

>>16777170
Converts to Judaism are considered as Jewish by the rabbinate. A Jew is a Jew is a Jew.
I am going to take the world over the leading authorities on Jewish law over you.

>>16777176
>you can't group people together that are genetically more similar to eachother than to other groups
alright retard

>>16777167
>>16777176
>AD HOC
>I win lol!

>>16777185
I thought you said earlier that it was true? Your goalposts are moving fast huh.

>>16777182
Ethnicity is a propositional extension of genes. That doesn't at all tie into "iq" etc. All you're left w is parentage and no meaningful arguments against other parentage. In fact following it further would imply anti-race and only pro-family. Following it further implies pro-individualism. That's why Hitler called iq a Jewish invention.

>>16777188
how many converts are there per year historically?
oh shit looks like you have no argument since you have no evidence of the significance of your claims

>>16777188
You clearly know nothing about (organized) Judaism. Don't trust me then, but if you ask any orthodox jew about this, big chance they'll confirm what I said. Not universally, but very often.

>>16777175
I'M HAVING SO MUCH FUN SEEING ALL THESE COOL MEMES
I KEEP SEEING ALL THE COOL MEME KIDS POST PEPE THE FROG
I WANNA BE PEPE THE FROG TOO
I WANNA BE A COOL MEME KID

HAHAHAHAHHA I'M PEPE THE FROG AND I HAVE FUN ON THE INTERNET, CHECK OUT MY PIC FELLOW FROGS
I'M A CUSTOM PEPE THE FROG, I'M UNIQUE BUT I'M STILL ONE OF YOU

>>16777199
It is true but if it's universally true enough to disregard any anti-macdonald arguments then it must be true in math. So at least be honest and study math literally through him.

>>16777194
>>16777196

>>16777201

>>16777206
Bro, are you mad?

>>16777206
Not him but cope.

>>16777201
>Genetics have nothing to do with intelligence
>You can't group people together because I say so
alright retard, you're very good at pilpul and cherry picking though.

>>16777208
You're very autistic, you know that? It doesn't need to be true in maths. It needs to explain observed behaviour and it does.

>>16777221
Genetics does but your parentage is tangential of it.
You can group ppl but the way you are grouping would end up w only individuals so at least make a framework that stops it wherever and accept the implications of that. You need a degradation of causation that is peaked in race but that would need a degradation of truth causation which starts in the middle of creation or reality.

>>16777202
Enough to have entire websites dedicated to the process.
https://lawoffice.org.il/en/aliyah-after-conversion-to-judaism/
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2972927/jewish/How-to-Convert-to-Judaism.htm

>>16777205
No proof, no cookie.

>>16777208
>I MUST BE RIGHT BECAUSE I'M RIGHT
this is how all jews are brainwashed and this is how they are brainwashing the people subject to their media and education systems

their brains are shortcircuited with extreme hyperstimulus so only the narrow set of neurons that remembers their education are functional

all of their human qualities are precluded, these neural pathways are so heavily myelinated that no free thought or emotion is possible, all activity is channeled and contained down these narrow paths

they are literally zombies

>>16777225
Yes it explains it but not unlike a soap opera explains love. It certainly does but it's time to order truths and your truth framework lacks that ability and instead implies post-modernism if not solipsism.

>>16777218
>>16777217
HELP HELP HELP!
I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ENOUGH PERSONALITY!
I'M NOT POPULAR!!!!!!

WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND ME?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
WHO AM I???
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BE DOING?
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO SAY?

AHHHHHHHHH
I GET IT NOW
I'M PEPE THE FROG
LOOK AT ME, I'M ON THE INTERNET
I'M PEPE THE FROG

I'M A REAL BOY

>>16777232
>buzzwords
parentage is an extension of genetics, genius. If you select over generations within an ethnic group for high verbal intelligence, that affects individuals within that particular ethnic group.

>>16777233
how many converts are there per year historically?
oh shit looks like you have no argument since you have no evidence of the significance of your claims

>>16777238
That's kinda you. I've justified my points, expecting some exploration in the points I brought up, you started schizing out like a candy-addicted child who has had their sweets taken from them. Or a methhead idk

>>16777240
Alright, you're still not refuting it, you just keep rewording the fact that you dislike the implications by hiding behind your autistic definition of acceptable truth.

>>16777244
The reason people make fun of you is because you're ridiculous and hysterical

>>16777114
>>16777166
>>16777206
>>16777244
holy based

>>16777244
>screaming incoherently is instead a personality

>>16777246
Yes it's an extension. Not the whole of genetics and parentage only tangentially covers any of your arguments for racial separation.

>>16777233
You can find interviews with orthodox jews on youtube who will tell you of this in great detail, don't believe me.

>>16777256
>PEPE THE FROG EXPRESSES MY EMOTIONS BETTER THAN I EVER COULD
>LOOK HOW PERFECT HIS EXPRESSION IS
>I WISH MY EXPRESSION COULD BE THIS PERFECT IN REAL LIFE
>I WISH I COULD BE THIS REAL
>ALAS I CAN ONLY BE THIS PERFECT ON THE INTERNET
>I POST PEPE THE FROG
>I AM PEPE THE FROG
>I AM PERFECT
>I AM A REAL BOY WHEN I'M ON THE INTERNET

>>16777258
samefag

>>16777251
Why the fixation on an exact number?

>>16777261
>it doesn't meet my arbitrary standards
You're just denying reality, buddy.

>>16777266
You do know that most of the people who frog-post are on your side, right? You're shitting on your own people

>>16777255
I can't refute more than what's given. Some sociologically-derived truths derives sociological truths. If you don't, or can't, develop it more fundamental to sociological truths and are happy with it then not much I can do for you, I can't deny your existence until you actually examine it. Any psychologist or parent knows this.

>>16777269
An estimate is fine too. Just answer the question.

>>16777252
>blabber schizophrenic nonsense and don't engage with any arguments
>narrate your victory
this is why someone is going to kill you

>>16777264
Why don't you find them since the burden of proof is on you.
Besides, just because a few Orthodox Jews claim so does in no way mean the rest of the Jewish population does as well. Two Jews, three opinions.

>>16777273
I was using your standards moron. If you use genes as a framework and its terminology then it refutes you.

>>16777276
>I'M PEPE THE FROG
>WOW YOU ARE TRYING TO BE BETTER THAN ME, PEPE THE FROG?
>DON'T YOU KNOW HOW POPULAR I AM?
>EVERYONE WHO IS COOL ON THE INTERNET POSTS MY PICTURE
>WE ARE ALL PEPE THE FROG AND WE ARE VERY POPULAR
>HOW COULD YOU BE BETTER THAN US IF YOU AREN'T EVEN PEPE THE FROG

>>16777282
Cope lmfaoo you faggots couldn't do shit but jerk off at your failures

>>16777278
If it describes reality adequately so that we can study it further and act upon it, it's good enough for me. MacDonald does not have to be Jesus. I'm not a mathematician. If there even was one who would be willing to define a truth that fits your standard, they wouldn't be allowed because discussion of these subjects is prohibited.

>>16777287
how

>>16777268
nope

>>16777289
>>16777266
>>16777244
>>16777206
>>16777166
>>16777114
cringe bro

>>16777285
>not willing to put in the work
You really know nothing about jews except for that they're a sacred cow do you?

>>16777296
your retarded shriveled brain may have forgotten, but the evidence of your failure is recorded here and everything you have done here did nothing but work against your purpose

>>16777281
Plenty, more than a hundred a year I'd say.

>>16777287
Why? Because you say so? That's what arbitrary means, genius.

>>16777301
these all look literally like me lmao
btw im a marxist-leninist antiracist antifascist fighter
workers of the world unite

>>16777301

>>16777297
There should be discussion because the conversation is unhealthily partisan. That being said you can't expect a "good enough" truth to be accepted by anyone but yourself and people with different avenues of their own "good enough" truths. It's certainly not applicable in science (yet?) and that's why ppl criticize the approach of trying to tautologize "good enough" with material truths.

>>16777310
That's really, really low compared to the totality of orthodox jews. That's not plenty by any standard.

>>16777315
Nothing wrong with being ugly, just don't be ugly and evil

>>16777301
these all look literally like me lmao
btw im a communist with jewish blood and I drink peepee and eat poopoo

>>16777316
lmao

>>16777304
Does it matter?

>>16777301
these are literally just eastern europeans possibly with some jewish admixture here and there

>>16777317
It doesn't need to be applicable in science but in society. That's why it's a sociological issue and your definition of scientific truth doesn't matter in this regard. My point was that so long as discussion is stifled, your scientific truth couldn't even be discussed, and it's not my place to work out a scientific theory. MacDonald describes something that is observably true. Good enough that it should be taken seriously and not buried.

>>16777322
I cannot find the data but then again, who cares? Converts and people with Jewish blood are embraced with open arms.

>>16777336
Yes obviously it does.

>>16777341
>I have no evidence, but who cares, I feel like granting myself victory and you should too

>>16777298
Parentage is only in regards to specific genes given to you and not in genes overall. Intelligence, or other factors you claim is endemic to race, aren't accounted in genes. Whatever genes race would account for aren't even fully present in parentage especially if you define race as something shared between two lineages and as separate from what accounts for humanity.

>>16777341
>who cares?
Again dude. You're the one who brought up the issue of converts.
>Converts and people with Jewish blood are embraced with open arms.
Not to the same degree, no. Converts are seen by many orthodox jews as lesser.

>>16777308
I mean again cope. I sit on truth and yall's pathetic sex games doesn't alter my points or alter truth.

>>16777313
No because >>16777349

>>16777349
>is only in regards
this is not english this is not sense
you're an illiterate niggerkike animal

>>16777348
Conversion is a very real thing. The converts that go to Israel are in a good place because they cared to go there.

That should say enough - not the numbers.

>>16777349
You're being way too autistic about it. Can't you recognize broad patterns?

>>16777348
>I have STATISTIC INFOGRAPHS therefore I am right and on the side of FACTS AND LOGIC

>>16777349
>>16777359
so....this is literally a nigger

>>16777362
>>16777373
>I have no evidence, but who cares, I feel like granting myself victory and you should too

>>16777357
Bickering and infighting is a common thing in Judaism. Again, 2 Jews means three opinions.
The reason they are not seen as Jewish by the ultraorthodox is because they only view their form of Judaism as valid and anyone who converts to another form is not seen as a valid conversion.

>>16777359
>Parentage is only in regards to specific genes given to you and not in genes overall.
yes, but those genes overall differ per population group.
> Intelligence, or other factors you claim is endemic to race, aren't accounted in genes.
We just established parentage affects intelligence. Don't weasel back now.
>Whatever genes race would account for aren't even fully present in parentage especially if you define race as something shared between two lineages and as separate from what accounts for humanity.
Then let's not define it is as that, but as something that describes genetic trends and similarities within groups.

>>16777338
If it's not applicable in science then it's not applicable in society. By your definition of truth being okay if it's sociologically-anchored then they can similarly justify banning his books. If it has no more fundamental anchoring of truth you're back where you started. You can examine them more fundamentally so you don't come off as a tabloid newspaper or crazy housewife but if you don't it's fine but it won't spread. The biological basis was what started the expansion and now there's nothing of it. That doesn't mean there's not something that is true but until you fundamentalize it then it'll never be solved.

>>16777384
You're basically confirming my standpoints here. Lmao. Just remember that jew is both a religion and an ethnicity, and overall they overlap but not perfectly.

>>16777371
I am trying to put you into terms of a broad pattern but y'all seem happy with tabloid frameworks.

>>16777374
I think it would be funny if I was an aborigine considering your framework

>>16777401
If you convert to the ultraorthodox stream of Judaism then you will have your autistic reason to hate Jews disproven.

>>16776254
Mods delete every thread because they're always shit shows, and the people who post them are bad willed

>>16777394
>If it's not applicable in science then it's not applicable in society.
You're way too autistic. Go outside for a change.
>By your definition of truth being okay if it's sociologically-anchored then they can similarly justify banning his books.
No, because the banning isn't in line with observable behaviour. That's the difference.
>You can examine them more fundamentally so you don't come off as a tabloid newspaper or crazy housewife but if you don't it's fine but it won't spread.
You can keep being autistic but that won't change reality. Ideas spreading or not has nothing to do with how truthful they are, as has been proven by the banning of his books.
>The biological basis was what started the expansion and now there's nothing of it. That doesn't mean there's not something that is true but until you fundamentalize it then it'll never be solved.
Once again, you're being too autistic.

>>16777391
Parentage affects it but not in regards to anything outside genes that are present in man. Certainly there aren't any racial genes that cover intelligence as every "race" has differences in those.
Sure we can redefine it but you'd inevitably be talking about human genes in which case the whole racial aspect is left by the wayside.

>>16777415
>UR BAD THAT MEANS UR WRONG
lol what the fuck how are you real

>>16777408
>it doesn't fit my standard
alright, it's good enough for me

>>16777426
>>UR BAD THAT MEANS UR WRONG
Yes.

>>16777424
It's not either or. There's a large grey part of the spectrum you're ignoring.

>>16777421
People don't use a cellphone because other people say it's good. They use it because it's materially-helpful.
Observable behavior implies science and you've already divorced yourself from it.
Again truth is universal, your adherence is not.
I'm being right and not "good enough" so.

>>16777411
I never said conversions didn't occur. Just that in a majority of cases, they're just for show and not taken seriously.

>>16777431
As long as you're willing to accept y'all sound like schizophrenics then people will treat you as one.
>>16777442
Nothing I said implied either-or.

>>16777445
>People don't use a cellphone because other people say it's good. They use it because it's materially-helpful.
You can't be serious.
>Observable behavior implies science and you've already divorced yourself from it.
Humans aren't robots, sperg.
>Again truth is universal, your adherence is not.
Sure, but you don't seem to understand how religion or ideology or ideas works. It doesn't need to be true in order to be acted upon. That doesn't mean I don't think it's true, I do, but we'll never know for sure because the discussion is still stifled. I'm not the one to provide the scientific legitimation.
You're telling me to solve it while at this point in time it can't be solved because due to the prevailing dogma discussion won't be accepted.

>>16777453
>As long as you're willing to accept y'all sound like schizophrenics then people will treat you as one.
We only sound like that to people who are not wiling to set their prejudices aside. That's fine.
>Nothing I said implied either-or.
Read what you said again please.

>>16777474
>>16777466
>just let a schizophrenic bot distract you from the topic at hand
are you both bots?

>>16777493
no, just autists

>>16777466
It does need to be true to be acted upon. It's just the frameworks you use which show the limit of it. I'm for one giving a discussion on it, like many sites, servers etc and you're the one who is asserting your conception isn't scientific. If it's not demonstrable in that then it's certainly not demonstrable in anything more fundamental. Again, that measure of truth can allow others to deny your book until you define truth more fundamental to sociologically-derived ones.

>>16777474
You don't give anyone a reason or means to accept what you say outside some tabloid manner which isn't, unsurprisingly, good enough for the majority of people. It's an empty concession.

>>16776535
how do you prove anything isn't anything?
oh reality isn't falsifiable nothing is real HAHAHAHAH:LHojaesfoaisr29r4u

>>16777513
Pilpul. Jesus wasn't literally the son of God, it's not been scientifically proven, but people still acted like it was true. MacDonald describes and explains observable behaviour that, at least in theory so long as discussion is forbidden, allows us to discuss potential action based on these observations - whether we satisfy your definition for scientific truth or not.

>>16777526
We're asking you, everyone else has a method, usually scientific

>>16777540
how to you prove they don't have a method?

>>16777513
>You don't give anyone a reason or means to accept what you say outside some tabloid manner which isn't, unsurprisingly, good enough for the majority of people. It's an empty concession.
Yes it does, it describes behaviour that is observable and relatively accurately predicts future behaviour. That's why it still hasn't been debunked, the only thing that happens is people like you arguing over arbitrary definitions of truth to make sure the content isn't discussed.
Plus, most people don't know whether what they believe to be true is actually true. Most of the news and facts they consume are of the tabloid variety, objectively worse than MacDonald's standard.

>>16777539
Science isn't the most fundamental truth. You can use ontology, logic etc which inform the scientific which inform the sociologic.
I tried to go down that path with you and you've just retreated towards an uncheckable and undemonstrable truth except as you see it. Whatever you see and feel is true, when you're ready to have it mean anything to anyone else you should continue in the direction of founding your truth in something beyond memes.

>>16777551
They said they didn't.>>>16777556

>16777338
It doesn't describe behavior in any manner fundamental enough. It hasn't been debunked because y'all schiz out and run at any deep discussion.
>is worse than Macdonald
You can't prove that

>>16777573

>>16777556

>>16777558
No, you just keep hammering on about your arbitrary definition of truth. You still haven't refuted anything of what MacDonald has asserted which says enough honestly. You don't seem to understand how people work, people aren't robots.
And again, your definition of truth cannot realistically be satisfied at this time due to restrictions to the discussion in academia. I'm not a scientists. It's not my job to satisfy you, it's your job to explain how MacDonald is wrong and you haven't, except for saying you don't think it's good enough.

>>16777580
>people aren't robots
Prove it
>not my job
Then go jerk off about it in pol until you're ready to talk about it.

>>16777573
>It doesn't fit my standard
Criticize the content, not the form.
>You can't prove that
Yes I can. MacDonald has not had to retract anything due to inaccuracy, in most of the mainstream media that happens daily (quietly).

>>16777551
They said they didn't >>16777338

>>16777596
You can't criticize the content without a form.
If retraction means false then you can deny Newtonian physics and most of any field.

>>16777592
No, you either criticize him on his content or fuck off. Stop the pilpul. You're the one not talking about it, disingenuous fuck.

>>16777600
Thanks for twisting my words. You're confirming all the stereotypes.

>>16777600
How do you prove they said they did?

>>16777347
Then address my arguments and not my persona.

>>16777380
You think converts don't exist?
Why do you say they are mistreated and looked down upon then?
>>16777451
But they are.

Imagine the smell of this thread

>>16777615
I did, his content is crap because it has no more explanatory power than a tabloid. You can't even begin to address the issues he tries to bring up or imply without relating it outside your existential justification.

>>16777613
>You can't criticize the content without a form.
Yes you can. You cannot be this retarded. MacDonald has laid out a form, you just refuse to accept it instead of taking it for what it is. What specifically that MacDonald has said was untrue?

>>16777623
How do you prove he's not twisting your words?
How do you prove he's disconfirming all the stereotypes?

>>16777623
Are you claiming to have a scientific basis for your arguments now?
>>16777626
Said they did what? How do I prove reality?

>>16777631
how many converts are there per year historically?
oh shit looks like you have no argument since you have no evidence of the significance of your claims

>>16777634
>It's true
>it's crap
Reality sucks, buddy. Now debunk his arguments instead of complaining without substance.
> You can't even begin to address the issues he tries to bring up or imply without relating it outside your existential justification.
Oh, the irony, it hurts.

>>16777637
If he laid out a form it's definitionally not simply contential.
In that Jews are trying to supplant "western" university systems. That's simply not true.

>>16777641
That's not falsifiable so it's not true

>>16777639
>>16777641
Fuck off with your pilpul, address MacDonald's content.

>>16777652
But is that falsifiable? If not it can't be true

>>16777647
Judaism doesn't evangelize like Christianity, but you could still convert. Converts are considered Jew's in a spiritual sense, and it's not as if droves of people want to become Jews either.

>>16777650
Y'all justified your arguments as unscientific. This only leaves an existential aspect. I've debunked them. >>16776452
Etc
Until you use a better mechanism than tabloid truths then it's self-debunkable

>>16777652
> That's simply not true.
Prove it. MacDonald makes a better case for his argument than you do right now.

>>16777647
So far I have heard no negative experiences with other Jews endured by converts. It should he in your disposal to share any since that is literally the point you are making.

>>16777669
I don't care if they're unscientific according to your standards, debunk the facts he has observed. What of his arguments are wrong specifically? What primary sources that he quotes were wrongly used?

>>16777665
how many converts are there per year historically?
oh shit looks like you have no argument since you have no evidence of the significance of your claims

>>16777653
Idk what you're referring to schizo
>>16777656
I did >>16777652

>>16777661
It's derivative. Falsifiability is nonsense. Truths have their own explanatory power and that does not.

>>16777674
how many converts are there per year historically?
oh shit looks like you have no argument since you have no evidence of the significance of your claims

>>16777671
Pretty easy, there was many Jewish nazis. Not tautological.
>>16777684
I just did.

>>16777674
But you also said you know nothing of judaism. So that doesn't mean anything. You're the one who brought up the issue but can't back it up.

>>16777691
I was thinking about it and I'm pretty sure that's not falsifiable, so what you're saying can't be true

>>16776542
watcha doin rabbi

>>16777696
>>16777691
No you didn't, you disingenuous fuck. You have not addressed a single argument of MacDonalds but keep yammering on about your arbitrary standards. What has MacDonald said that was provably false?

>>16777700
>OUTLIERS ARE PREDICTIVE OF THE WHOLE DATA SET
and other jewish retardations, by this kike

>>16777686
What's the purpose of the question? I'm assuming it's not super high, because Judaism isn't Christianity, asstard

>>16777696
>Pretty easy, there was many Jewish nazis. Not tautological.
That has nothing to do with what MacDonald asserts. Have you even read the book?

>>16777711
chill out bot you did it, the thread is at the bump limit, mission accomplished

>>16777704
Falsifiability is a framework of truth. I've denied it by showing examples where it fails. Electronics implies an unordered continuum of truth, even if it asserts negations exist. I asked you awhile ago to define truth or critique mine when you could not. You've done neither.

>>16777713
Good job with the pilpul schlomo

>>16777722
He said Jews are trying to supplant western ideology. That's false, easily.

>>16777724
Isn't that unfalsifiable? so how could it be true?

>>16777695
You are one of those people, I see.

>>16777671
McDonald does not make any valid case and his supposed evidence being based on him being academically banned himself should not be considered more than a self-fulfilling prophecy.
About the hogwash that is a supposed conspiracy of Jews holding all power - what antisemites like McDonald have to understand is that in a multicultural country an all-white upper class has always been a mere fantasy.

>>16777723
We'll make a new one. You're the one who hasn't addressed a single argument, and anyone can see it clear as day.

>>16777729
the extractor itself moving forward and back, you fucking kike

>>16777733
By denying falsity and expanding truth to an ordered system. Already explained it.

>>16777732
> That's false, easily.
Prove it.

>>16777741
Cope. Being annoying doesn't account for anything except in pol

>>16777748
Truth or falsity? but that's not explained and it's not falsifiable

>>16777750
By that jews have been nazis, are you retarded?

>>16777750
He doesn't need to prove anything since you aren't either. Jews benefit immensely from Western values because they aren't persecuted and killed there, that is one reasons why Jews are not against the West.

>>16777740
Alright so you clearly haven't read the book. That's not an argument he makes, he was banned after this book had been released. Countries didn't used to be multicultural until jews came. You're attacking strawmen.
>>16777745
>no u

>>16777716
>OUTLIERS ARE PREDICTIVE OF THE WHOLE DATA SET
and other jewish retardations, by this kike

>>16777758
I did explain it moron you just said it was too abstract for you to conceptualize. I even used examples.

>>16777772
>jews have been nazis
>therefore jews can't be supplanting western ideology
Are you retarded? You clearly haven't read the book.

Everyone in this thread who is not an anti-semite; you have collectively convinced me to buy Culture of Critique.
I hope you guys are not really as brainwashed.

>>16777777
Shoot more for less by buying in bulk. This value pack contains 325 fucking kikes you fucking god damn nigger

>>16777780
data set? have sex

>>16777757
Then why are you doing what you're doing? Address the content of the book of fuck off.

>>16777777
CHECKED

>>16777785
not falsifiable

>>16777772
>OUTLIERS ARE PREDICTIVE OF THE WHOLE DATA SET
and other jewish retardations, by this kike

>>16777777
Wasted quints.

>>16777790
Yes that's directly contradictory. Pick up a book on logic.

>>16777804
>MY EBIN 4CHAN NUMBERS xDD

>>16777792
take your meds

>>16777798
What's the purpose of the question? Cope

>>16777802
I did and you keep running.

>>16777806
You can't care about what is and isn't because your truth mechanism is schizophrenic

>>16777818
copulate

>>16777817
That's not falsifiable though and directly contradicts the principles already established

>>16776602
laffin at Serbia
someone please give me an edit where they're 100% arabic

>>16777815
So nothing has been proven. Great.
Now answer the question. how is it false what MacDonald asserts about jewish ideology supplanting western ideology?

>>16777806
It's not an outlier you moron. If I went by Macdonald's definitions I could never assume Jews were doing anything but getting into our university system. It's a shit mechanism of truth. There's your rebuttal.

>>16777716
The person you are replying to had not provided any evidence as to why his claims are correct. Judaism embraces converts of any kind and is not racist or discriminatory, all you need to do is know how to be a Jew and you are welcome.

>>16777777
He made the claim that censorship and ousting of dissent thought was a real thing.
And countries used to be "multicultural until jews came". Persian Empire, Roman Empire, to name a few and there have been plenty more in recent history too. You seem to be preoccupied with tying Jewish presence in the common people with magical influx of other cultures.
It is quite funny how Jews, time and time again, have to be their own lawyers and prove their own innocence in a court that wants to send them to death.

Jews as a people have been exonerated of libel and other made up crime so many times that one should be suspicious of those who speak against them.

>>16777822
To.

>>16777821
>more dodging
You're really not helping your cause here. 350 posts and still not debunked anything that MacDonald has claimed. Amazing.

>>16777839
Not falsifiable, also OUTLIERS ARE not PREDICTIVE OF THE WHOLE DATA SET you fucking kike nigger

>>16777833
Jewish ideology has many overlaps with western. If you go deep enough the differences between any two ideologies is perhaps 1% (eat, golden rule, love etc)

>>16777845
Does this count? Idk >>16777850

>>16777848
Does this count? Idk >>16777839

>>16777841
You're either very naive about history, or disingenuous.

>>16777841
how many converts are there per year historically?
oh shit looks like you have no argument since you have no evidence of the significance of your claims

>>16777845
What claims is he offering less evidence against that you have been offering for?

>>16776734
lmao, I don't care about the discussion at all, but the guy whose newspaper cancelled the Kalergi Plan theorist is called Francesco Cancellato

>>16777850
>eat, golden rule, love etc
eat, golden rule, love
poop, pee, breath
hands, upright spine
face, eyeballs
etc

>>16777850
No, it's mostly contradictory, and only seems that way because western ideology has become synonymous with jewish ideology in modern times because many jews have taken positions of influence where they could spread their ideology. Which basically proves MacDonalds point, thanks.

>>16777879
I mean what are you against them for anyways?

>>16777867
Which label accusations were proven correct?

>>16777873
not my evidence, MacDonald's. He's only been attacked on the fact that people don't like his observations, but he has not been proven false.

>>16777883
Fine I'll use your system. Then western and judaic culture is so intertwined that Jewish manipulations are now western manipulations.

>>16777896
He's been proven less true to an embarrassingly derivative coverage of what he probably meant.

>>16777887
Stop derailing.

>>16777896
You claim his assertations are correct. Which ones?

>>16777897
So MacDonald is correct in his observations? Good to know.

>>16777903
Which libel accusations have been proven correct?

Speak up, person of truth! Speak of, person that wants to make the Jewish flame go extinguished forever!

>>16777901
>>16777905
Anything in the book. Address any of his arguments that you think is incorrect and prove him wrong. You still haven't.

>>16777918
which libel accusations have been proven false?
SPEAK UP

>>16777918
Stop derailing and strawmanning.

>>16777917
Sure idc but stop using computers, internet etc since you hate jews so much.

>>16777928
I did you just think being pig-headedly childish counts as a rebuttal and is why your ideas will never bear fruit.

>>16777791
Good on you.

>>16777938
>Sure idc but stop using computers, internet etc since you hate jews so much.
So you agree with MacDonald? Good to know. Why do you think his books are banned if they are truthful?
>I did you just think being pig-headedly childish counts as a rebuttal and is why your ideas will never bear fruit.
I'm interested, can you repost your rebuttal of his argument?

>>16777933
Burden of proof is on the accuser and historians have disproven these accusers.

>>16777971
Were those historians jewish by any chance? Doesn't that prove MacDonald's point?

>>16777981
What does it matter?

>>16777992
Well it's very relevant to this topic, because that's part of the jewish nepotism MacDonald speaks about. Wouldn't that be interesting.

>>16777971
We met that burden by providing a work of literature and several verified 100% true infographics

>>16777992
>WHAT DOES ANYTHING MATTER THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH?
you're about to found out you fucking kike

>>16778008
Jews are more interested in Jewish history, big surprise. You'll find many non-Jews among historians if that is the thing you care about - the judenrein academic institutes, the dream of antisemites, despite Jews having to use the same methods to prove and disprove historical events.

>>16778025
>>16778031
I love how this entire thread just reaffirms everything the author said.

>>16778031
Well, seems like you agree with MacDonald then.

>>16778053
That people like to learn more about their own history and culture?

Muslim historians are usually Muslim, and XtianTheologians will be Xtian.
Besides bashing Jewish orthodoxy and culture with weak arguments, what is your point?

>>16777964
Because they aren't explanatory truths just macro existentially. You can say red is blue and that's existentially true but not materially not abstractly true.

No you can read

>>16778095
>>16778081
this is pilpul.

>>16778103
It's the exact reason you can't go past sociological truths and why y'all continually fail. 1+1=2 never fails except existentially and for reasons unjustified in existentialism.

>>16778095
If what you say is correct, I'm sure you can give me an example of one of MacDonald's arguments which is untruthful
>>16778081
Have you even read the book? Yes, MacDonald thinks jews care more about jews and jewish culture than about others. Muslims don't disproportionally occupy positions of influence in western societies (yet), jews do. Your comparison doesn't work.

>>16778118
>y'all
You still haven't addressed any of MacDonald's arguments on the contents but keep bringing the pilpul. Funny how that works.

>>16778125
More Jewish Jewish historians.
More Muslim Muslim historians.
More Xtian Xtian historians.

If that is your argument then also include other historians.

>>16778125
Have you met the average jew? He pays taxes and hates not being able to go on holiday because of expensive tickets due to perhaps corona, just like you. I don't know what you really mean when you say jews are different..

>>16778095
>No you can read
My dude, this thread is long and I have been arguing with multiple people. Repost your statement that debunks MacDonald's argument on content, I don't know which is yours. (Wait, I don't recall any. Help me out here?)

>>16778152
Have you even read the book? You probably know nothing of jews. MacDonald speaks specifically about elite jews, though.
>>16778138
Yes it does, MacDonald doesn't deny that. His point is that it affects society since jews are disproportionately represented in positions of influence in christian/western nations, muslims aren't. The same happens with christians in non-christian areas where they hold positions of influence. Do you disagree?

>>16778178
How is an elite Jew different than a normal Jew besides his wealth?

>>16778200
Because of their position of power, they are able to exert influence and due to in-group preference, which you also acknowledged, promote and protect other jews, forming cliques.

>>16778200
Their positions of power are due to their wealth and not due to their Jewishness, this is a rather evident explanation.

>forming cliques
Jews have different opinions on what is good for them and the nepotism accusation is pure quack.

>>16778235
>>16778206

>>16778235
>Their positions of power are due to their wealth and not due to their Jewishness, this is a rather evident explanation.
Yes, MacDonald's assertion is that due to the history of Jewish occupations, they're predisposed to collecting and expanding wealth.
>Jews have different opinions on what is good for them
True, but they're always focusing on what's best for jews nonetheless, even if they disagree on what that entails. MacDonald also addressed this.
>and the nepotism accusation is pure quack.
How so? What evidence do you have? MacDonald cites many primary (jewish) sources documenting this phenomenon. Which of those are false or taken out of context?

>>16776653
If there really was a 1% jewish satanic freemason adrenochrome billionaire elite and i got invited one day, i would join them and laugh at the Hoi Polloi together

>>16778264
>Yes, MacDonald's assertion is that due to the history of Jewish occupations, they're predisposed to collecting and expanding wealth.
Go ask the average Jew how much money he makes, probably as much as you.

>True, but they're always focusing on what's best for jews nonetheless, even if they disagree on what that entails. MacDonald also addressed this.
Is this special? So does every other people on earth.

>>16778264
>How so? What evidence do you have? MacDonald cites many primary (jewish) sources documenting this phenomenon. Which of those are false or taken out of context?
Because overrepresentations are often caused by things other than the N word the people itt fear so much. More Jews live in New York, so yes more people are going to be found doing things they care about, like having an income , feeding their family, etc

>>16778295
>Go ask the average Jew how much money he makes, probably as much as you.
No, the average jew would probably make more than me. That's because jews are relatively disproportionally wealthy compared to other ethnic/religious groups.
>Is this special? So does every other people on earth.
No, but since jews are overrepresented in positions of power, it skews it towards achieving their own ends, and not ends that favour the rest of society.
>Because overrepresentations are often caused by things other than the N word the people itt fear so much. More Jews live in New York, so yes more people are going to be found doing things they care about, like having an income , feeding their family, etc
Have you read the book? If not, I suggest you do. MacDonald cites zealously from jewish primary sources. You'll be very surprised by what you'll read. They're very candid when talking to one another.

>>16778320
The places most Jews live don't have factory jobs.

What the hell are you talking about? Jews have invented many things that benefit society as a whole like vaccines and things in engineering.

>>16778343
>The places most Jews live don't have factory jobs.
Why is that? So you're confirming they're mostly disproportionally wealthy? Otherwise they would live more evenly among poorer areas as well.
>Jews have invented many things that benefit society as a whole like vaccines and things in engineering.
That's not mutually exclusive with what I said. MacDonald addresse all these issues. Have you read the book? If you do and disagree, you'll at least be better able to debunk it instead of strawmanning.

Cofnas or some retard, criticized the book, so now midwits can dismiss it and refer to cofnas without actually examining it themselves.

>>16778380
It's evident from this thread that none of the detractors have read it

>>16778363
As you so clearly failed to try to understand a single word from what I wrote, let me put this very simple for you:

1. No more power than the demographically dominant WASPs that hold all the presidents the USA has ever had. Jews even had quotas laid on them in American universities and the custom actually resurged but under a different name. So much for privilege.

2. Jews have been as a group not powerful enough to shape the course of history and guess what happens when they are accused of trying? Hint: they die. So please stop with your moronic cabal crap.

Now name me a single case where libel against Jews was proven to be true. You can't, because there isn't any.

What you want is that Jews are the only people in the world to have people in charge commit bad things.
You know why? Sure you don't. Let me grab an extract again of the working definition of antisemitism (and please, don't make a fool out of yourself like the other douchebag that can't even read):

"Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation."https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definitions-charters/working-definition-antisemitism

So fuck you and your double standard bullshit.

>>16778449
THE KVETCHING HAHAHHAHAHAHA

>>16778449
1. False since jews are now overrepresented in universities (and in positions of influence). False since the president does not hold a lot of power by any means. Plus MacDonald also speaks about Europe, not just America.
2. Have you heard of the Balfour declaration? You are being very disingenuous now. Jews have been by far the most influential group in shaping history, just look at the overrepresentation of jews in many fields of expertise and power.
>Now name me a single case where libel against Jews was proven to be true. You can't, because there isn't any.
MacDonald made no arguments on this issue, you brought it up. More derailing.
>What you want is that Jews are the only people in the world to have people in charge commit bad things.
Nice strawman, I don't, and neither does MacDonald. We're just wondering why we can't point it out when they do bad things collectively.
>antisemitism
What is antisemitic about any of the statements MacDonald has made? Is it anti-semitic to notice things? That would be odd.
>Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation
The double standard is that we can accuse white people or chinese people of these practices, but now jews. Why not? Are there double standards in discussing certain behaviours?

>>16778449
Also, read the book. If you disagree with him you'll have better ammo next time because now you're just attacking straw men or spreading misinformation.

>>16777777
WITNESSED

>>16778449
Yeah thats just disingenuous.