/lit/ - Literature

Congrats, faggot.

>>16750815
t. butthurt neoliberal who was probably reamed by me in a thread

>>16750784
I haven't read alinsky but i do implant new ideas and fetishes into board cultures and manipulate consensuses using OC

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>>16750784
radicals are retards

>not reading The Art of Being Right instead

>>16750823
Rule number 5.
"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."

>>16750847
Rule #11: Give up that boipussy.

>>16750784
Well I think the font on the book cover should be excellent in attracting the attention of young children.

>>16750997
ugly feet. fucking deathclaw fucking shit

>white people rebel too, y'know

>>16750784
So you're outfagging social retards? Amazing.

>>16750784
Thanks anon. I've redpilled a lot of anons on every board I frequent by pointing out how smug leftists employ their hollow rhetoric. I think other anons must be doing something similar because almost every board is /pol/ now to some extent. Look how many Evola threads the mods have to prune. And how often the chosenites are dragged into discussion. It's an almost unthinkable rise in redpilled sentiment over recent years.

Once again thank you and please keep doing what you're doing!

>>16750784
>As much as you anons think you're immune to being influenced, you definitely aren't
I've been at this for a while. I've become open to being wrong, and good at detaching my own personal feelings from being right or wrong. I like to look for truth, and it's an undeniable fact that rhetoric has only a tangential relationship with it. Once you've been here long enough, patterns start to emerge in the way people interact with arguments. When I make a post, I do my very best to directly address and refute logic without rhetorical gimmicks, because that serves no purpose except to show off my aptitude for rhetorical gimmicks. Nobody gains anything from that. I'm not immune to being influenced — I crave it, because being influenced means I've been confronted with new information or a new perspective on known information. It's just that I've become a lot more discerning at who I let influence me. If someone wants to demean themselves by resorting to debate tactics, there's no more truth to be found in that discussion. I'll just stop replying since it really doesn't matter if some other person thinks they've "won" an argument only they're having.

Anon likes to try to gaslight a lot. He'll write eloquently and persuasively and bloviate endlessly with ten cent words, insults, whatever he can do. But in the process of doing so, he'll tend to just completely ignore the parts of an argument he doesn't have an answer for. Just go look at that Eden and Entheogens thread to see this dynamic in action. If you can detach yourself from the immediacy of the insults and obfuscation, you'll often see that the person on the other end is just a grifter trying to get a quick ego boost with some well-polished sophistry. I used to try to repeat my points, rephrase them endlessly. I thought I wasn't articulate enough, or that I wasn't presenting my case clearly enough. Eventually I realized that I was just giving people WAY more credit than they're due. If someone wants to pretend they've "won" by completely ignoring your points and calling you names, let them. I don't use this word often, but let's call a spade a spade: they're genuine pseuds, completely uninterested in learning or truth. They just want to feel "correct" in the moment. Let them. Who cares?

>>16750784
> he thinks you can win arguments on 4chan
You're too short for this ride.

>>16751138
This is the only website you can win arguments on.

>>16750784
This book isn't that deep and Alinsky is a pragmatic moderate

wonder what mx alinksy's deal was

Because I'm not an imbecile.

Does the book detail how to counter tactics, or just employ them?

>>16750784
You desperately need to get laid

>>16751702
If I told you what qts let me do them, you'd get upset.

>>16750784
>"Vote Biden"
>"Haha! I've disheartened you!"
Wow dude

>>16751741
I'm not a Biden supporter, you neocon hawk.

>>16751746
Looks like someone doesn't respond well to ridicule

>>16751772
If you hadn't noticed, this entire thread is a massive cope by OP

>>16750847

False, irl I've turned around many arguments where people resorted to ridicule. The response is a meta-analysis of their perspective and why it's wrong among a few other tricks. Alinksky tactics only work IRL when you have a mob, but the mob wins anyway from violence and force (and their potential).

On a message board nothing is won,\only a faggot would think otherwise.

>>16751772
No, you're just a blind neocon. I don't want to subject myself to the mental torture of having to communicate with one like you.

>>16751797
>Ragequits and refuses to communicate at the mention of Biden
Hope that community organizing career goes well for you. I'm sure you'll win over plenty of centrists

>DUDE JUST FEED NIGGERS BEANS AND HAVE THEM GO FART IN WHITE SPACES LMAO

What did saul alinsky mean by this?

>>16750784

This is the most embarrassing thread I have ever read on this board

>>16751875
wait till you see the one I'm cooking up

>>16750784

You have lost every argument in this board.

>>16750815
This guy humorously underlined that you made this thread probably hoping to get congratulations, to stir genuine interest in your perceived rhetorical skill, which you obviously have less confidence in than you hope appears, (of course you'll either just (1) awkwardly stop posting at some point or (2) pretend you were being ironic). And then he called you a faggot for obvious reasons. And he did all of this in two words.

>>16750823
You replied with this clumsy, awkward response, using the word "neoliberal", which I doubt you understand but you think it's funny because you've heard it on podcasts or Twitter, and you're hoping people as dumb as yourself will project import into the term and hope that, if someone actually understands neoliberalism, you're hoping they see your response as a quirky bit of zany irony ("How 'based!'", you hope they'll think, "he used a word for no reason!). >>16751746
You used neocon here for the exact same reason, with a little bit more emphasis on irony here, because you obviously no this thread isn't going to be about rhetorical tactics - which you had hoped - but is just going to be people making fun of you, and you won't to act like you meant that the whole time.

I don't need to read a book to do demoralizing campaigns and false-flag.

>>16751927
Can you learn how to speak fucking English, Jesus Christ. That was awful to read, you fucking neotribal sponge.

>>16750823
>neoliberal
>>16751746
>neocon
>>16751952
>neotribal


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>16751952
>Neotribal
You got that damn right

guys. OP here. shut up your neorealists faggots, lets stop joking around. has anyone actually read this book or are you all just psudes?

>>16751967
So what? Everyone is neotribal these days. Either you support the establishment who wants to kill muslims, or support the establishment who wants to kill muslims, but also donate to the NAACP.
And Rick and Morty is a Mossad op to spread rampant anti-intellectualism among the naturally contumacious crowds that populate places like 4chan.
Think for a minute, will ya?

>>16751982

This thread would obviously be better if you didnt call everyone a neo-whatever the fuck

>>16751990
>Either you support the establishment who wants to kill muslims,
Lideral muhslim genocide lmao. I wish they were doing that.

>>16751991
It's called HUMOR. You would know this, if you had read the book in question. Which I would prefer we talk about. Otherwise, you are BANNED from my thread. FAGGOT.

(I'mjustkiddingIvebeenhavingaroughtimeathomeokayleavemealonethankyoubyebye)

>>16751996
You are, idiot. Just slowly, and through more clandestine means.
We finally made Israel Great Again, Migapedes!

>>16751998

lame

>>16751998
>>16751982
This isn't me. I'd never save pictures of shit-tier Youtube trannies on my computer.

>>16752002
Whatever, loser. >>16751998 Sorry to hear you're having a "hard time" at home LOL

>>16752002
Imagine thinking the USA is doing a Muslim genocide. This is what "anti-imperialism" does to your brain.

>>16752010

Oh for Christ's sake. Not to get into a fuckin' Abbott and Costello routine here, but this obviously is not me. Ignore, filter, etc.

>>16752012
Why are you transsexuals so sensitive?
Why do you trannies always respond in anger whenever one of your Stasi-recommended books is brought up in discussion?
It's fucking creepy and cult-like behaviour.

>>16751998

The OP can't ban people from a thread. Is this one of your "linguistic tricks"?

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>>16752026
Again, not me. Although I agree with everything he says, except for the part of pretending to be me for some inexplicable reaso). Let's get things back on track here

>>16752017
>US not doing Israel's bidding
>Mossad/CIA obviously didn't design the migrant crisis
>ISIS is natural

Yeah, ok there, fella. Come back when you have a basic understanding of the geopolitical landscape. May I suggest reading Kissinger?

This thread is pathetic. Let me guess OP you were just pretending to be retarded?

I have been disheartened.

>>16752040
Yeah no I know all of that but please tell me how the US is doing a Muslim genocide.

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>>16751952
>>16751990
me

>>16751982
>>16751998
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>>16752037
Gaping wound where a penis should be.

>>16752049

To be clear, THIS post is by me, the actual OP. Anyone else is just bullshitting and pretending. Stop fucking up my goddamn thread.

>>16752049
Tfw the political discussion is so bad you start to genuinely wonder if it's 4d chess from the other side

>>16752037
Definitely not me. Although I agree with some of what he says.

The only reason I started this thread was to show /lit/ of the concerted effort that discord leftists put in to subverting board discussion. They immediately react this way whenever you bring up one of their stupid fucking books they give you on babby's first ANTIFA training day.

>>16752054
>>>16752022 (You)
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>>16752049

NONE OF THESE ARE ME.

Why would anyone waste their fucking time doing this? This board used to be about actually discussing fucking books. You neolithic apes should go back to /tv/ or some shit

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>>16752066

LOL Okay we said the same exact same thing, except you're obviously NOT FUCKING ME ASSHAT

>>16752066
>>16752073
You discord faggots are pathetic.

>>16750784

OP Here - I am NINETY PERCENT of the POSTERS IN THIS BOARD.

>A perception of something can be easily swayed by a few well-placed insults with some samefagging.

Remember when I said this at the top of the thread? Yep. That happens. Screenshot this thread, because I think we've got one for the fucking books here.

Any questions, fire away.

>>16752084

That is incredibly sad

Lmao at discord trannies who join ANTIFA. I hear regional leaders are prone to digging up blackmail on their new recruits. Why do you people think these discord fuckers continue to do what they do for free?

>>16752090

How?

>>16752099

Because you've spent the past hour spamming into your own thread? What is the point of this? It's not even funny. Also the fact that you think this thread is going to go viral or something is obviously just incredibly sad and dumb.

>>16751875
It got worse

>>16752104
>>16752099
Again, Discord trannies doing what they've been "trained" to do whenever this book is brought up.
Their only obligation to do this is by means of blackmail. Think about the dirt these regional ANTIFA leaders have on their useful idiots...

>>16752104

That isn't me. It's the discord trannies from Antifa pretending to be me because I insulted their fucking Baby's First Communism book.

>>16752127
Tranny pls.

>>16752126

I haven't read most of this thread so I don't know what you're talking about, but if you think I'm a "discord trannie" - whatever the hell that means - because I think OP's weird attempt at going 4chan Viral is lame, then I'm a discord trannie.

>>16752147
lol you joined antifa and then told people you like young boys and now that's used against you as blackmail

>>16752084
Holy shot people actually think this post is real. Congrats my guy

>>16752141

Wow, the guy from a few posts up is back. Gee, I WONDER how he got those Yous to appear by those posts - it's almost as though some weird loser has been pretending to be me for the past two hours.

>>16752158
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>>16752126
>>16752127
>>16752141

To be clear (again), this is me.

>>16752104
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>>16752066

These are not me.

>>16752171
Calm down, chud.

>>16752183

Why would you post a picture which literally proves you're not OP, genius. Did you even think before you posted this? Nice one.

>>16752197
OP doesn't show a (you), chudboy. Once a chud, always a chud.

>>16752198

That literally doesn't make sense. That's not how this board works. Why are you doing this? What are you getting out of it?

>Trannies calling someone normal a "weird loser"

lmao you people are pieces of serious work.
>get filtered so hard at the start
>fill head full of psychiatric nonsense
>grow up and make everything about them
>"I don't feel comfortable in my own skin!"
>better consult a doctor and make my parents review their insurance policy!
>proceed to torpedo your family into a whirlwind of anxiety during the whole process
>still end up a deranged, mentally ill seether, ignorant of their own malignant vanity

Late stage capitalism really fucked you all, didn't it?

What the fuck even is this thread? Is this some kind of live surrealist performance?

>>16752239
It's what I told you ITT. The mere mention of this book frenzies the ANTIFA idiots like no other. It's literally the book they're given on their first day. They still try to destroy any discussion of it because they don't want people to see through their tactics. I mean, the cat's out of the bag anyway.

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>>16752254
Just young adult morons acting like they run the world because they just got into their first passion as an adult

>>16752254
Makes sense. Had a friend filming at zuccoti park over a decade ago during occupy. He said at one point someone pointed at him and said "pervert" then immediately everyone around her pointed at started pointing and saying pervert over and over. He left and felt weird. Their tactics only work in mobs though.

>>16752317
They also use blackmail. They create an illusion of a "safe space" where they can openly be themselves, that they're surrounded by like-minded people. They begin to confess everything about themselves, which either secretly recorded or texts screenshotted.
Just imagine all the weird sexual proclivities those leftist tumblr-type people have. Grounds for ample blackmail.

>>16752239
Whoever OP is, I hope he learned his lesson. I don't know what the lesson was, but I hoped he learned it.

>>16752425
I won this thread. Turns out I'm a better radical than you losers.

>>16752330
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>>16752254

The most miserably obvious samefagging I have ever seen on this board

>>16752473
>t. dumbass who is being blackmailed

>>16752449
Excuse me

>>16752330
that'd only be blackmail if you're ashamed tho, you'd have to be a puritan in the first place to care.
Unless it's pedo shit, but fuck'em

>>16752478

Blackmailed by who? You and your samefag gang?

>>16752473

You really can't pick up when someone types or sounds different. Is your favorite book harry potter?

>>16752496
You know who, chudboy ;)

>>16752490
ANTIFA has a huge amounts of MAPs.

>>16752506

Fair enough, but I still don't know what in the world is happening in this thread, or what the fuck you are all talking about

>>16752506
It's a concerted shill tactic, lol. How new are you?

Reading this thread is like being a schizophrenic person who has been hit in the head with a brick

>>16752536
You just need to know that I towered victorious over the Discord Tranny hoards, using my quick wit and linguistic skill to unravel their minds.

>>16752198
Go back newfag

>>16750784
Is the reason leftists hate Trump so much because he uses their own tactics against them and they know it, but can't say anything without revealing their own hand? When you look at the rhetorical strategies this book describes, they're the things Trump does on twitter everyday.

>>16752555
Particularly painful and smelly dilation, huh?

Based thread. Chapocel redditors and discord trannies seething

>>16752330

"12. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. "

They try this a lot too, I think when they get media to do their bidding it catches on but normally they fail. The problem with ANTIFA or any group using these tactics is they're all an offputting group of faggots. You can tell if they have mental issues IRL just by looking at them. If their face is hidden on twitter they make it obvious too with pronoun use or some other dogshit. They even type vaginally. Their only success is when normal pundits or people in suits put their rhetoric to use and report on it like it's fact.

>>16752560
Yes

>>16752575
Deranged tranny Boyle-poster is back it again!

>>16752549
>>16752565

I dare you to post a screenshot of this post and prove these both aren't You. I guarantee you won't.

>>16752549

Obviously not me. Good attempt though.

>>16752583
Shut up. Go take your anti-clotting agents.

>>16752583
>>16752597

I knew it LMAO, stop trying to hype your own lame ass fucking thread

>>16752603
Everyone who lives with you is tired of your sickly-sweet wound smell.

>mfw in the institutions

>>16753002
what do institutions smell like?

>>16750784
Alinsky’s tactics only work on people who are not aware of what is going on, that is to say 95% of people you will meet.
If you want to understand more, I will venture a basic introduction with 48 Laws of Power. Yes, its somewhat popular garbage, and there are much more serious manipulation texts available, but its a basic introduction to not being taken advantage of

>>16752002
Israel is an american puppet at best

>>16754045
Sure thing Chimpsky.

>>16750826
based meghead

>>16750784
as a leftist when it comes at promoting participatist point of view i prefer transparency, honesty, nonviolent communication . no bullshit no shenanigans, anyway we all know the most talented at evil, sociopathic ways are people with evil, sociopathic policies like the republicans and their lee atwater and tricky dick for an example.

>>16754874
Holy ESL, batman!

>>16750784
You guys won't believe what I found in the early life section of Alinsky's Wikipedia page.

>>16751790
If you suffer ridicule you will still be seen as less right than your opposition.

>>16754874
Whats with leftoids and calling everyone a sociopath

>>16754045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESPRVsGY2dw

>>16754984
Dude what?!?!?!

>>16755088
They're celebrating the election of one and feel secretly ashamed about it.

>>16755088
projection.

>>16751718
Upset they didn’t get an accurate description for the cops, maybe.

>>16750784

I don't read books dedicated to Satan.

So Alinsky tactics are to just verbally abuse the other side? Wow, good job, Amerimutts, you're fucking retarded.

>>16755734

ISWYDT

>>16750847
What if Rule Number 5 gets mogged? The ridicule stops working after that.

OP here again to remind everyone that I won this thread. I'm a wayyyyyyy more radical than you losers. Pretty erudite too, now that I think about it. I'm pretty much a polymath.

>>16751797
This IS a neocon board anon. Most of us were members of the Bush Sr. Campaign 8/10 of us still wear our pins to meet-ups. Frankly,and I know I shouldn’t be sharing this, but if ever espouse any HINT of another ideology, we redirect you to 4channel, a board filled with bots which spout low effort computer generated memes generally based on computer rendered depictions of the human form paired with words.

>>16756489
Yeah, that's all well and good, but your mother still has an anus, idiot.

>>16751927
Great summary you really helped form together my thoughts on this anon. Any good books on thinking you recommend? About to start nicomachean ethics since my name is actually Nick!

>>16756505
Go away, you neocon.

>>16750784
I don't read it because I don't want to turn into a retarded leftist

>>16751790
based

>>16756505
lol you're replying to yourself. literally the same esl-tier syntax and clunkiness.

>>16750823
Neoliberals love Alinsky retard

>>16750784
>win arguments
Why not masturbate instead?

>>16756573
BeCAUSE I DO THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME

>>16756597
Try meditating for a little while instead, if you half ass things by multitasking you'll never achieve a state of flow.

>Saul Alinsky was born in 1909 in Chicago, Illinois, to Russian Jewish immigrant parents,
I don't want to go all /pol/tard but..

If you let them fool you into believing they have fooled you, their trick worked.

>>16756620
But they don’t matter and isn’t someone wishing you harm losing their grip on reality a win? Obviously better that they thrive and stop wishing you harm is better but not always practical.


I’m doing to start summarizing chapters of nicomikianan ethics in here now so we can have something of consequence to discuss seeing as we’ve already seen the conversation played out.

OP is a manlet

>>16756643
Wrong. I'm 5'11.

>>16756654
lol

Because I have only found it in paperback.

Chapter 1 verse 1:Everything aims at something. Some activities serve to allow other activities, so since their whole point is the other activity, remember that that the point of the activity is more important than the activity you’re doing it for!

What a great point, though I’m curious and a bit skeptical of how this pyramid of activities will evolve. It is clearly good to remember this. I’ve played games I didn’t enjoy when the reason I stared was fun, and wasted time with fools when the point was to learn something or better myself. Please engage with me on this if you think it fits your goal in browsing this site. If not, don’t! What I get out of here is entertainment and motivation to read from either yous, or the thought that I’m annoying people so they’re ignoring me, feeding my will to power.

>>16750784
if you reach deep inside saul alinky, up to the elbow through his exit end, you'll have within reach his melonish prostate and the moment you give that supple ovoid a good goosing, you'll elicit from mr alinsky a pattern of reluctantly satisfied yips and abbreviated gasps

>>16751136
I'm usually the same but people never reply to cool headed posts. So instead I just shitpost pretending to hold a polemic or retarded opinion. It's less lonely.