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What does /lit/ think of Thomas Mann’s depiction of Hell? I think it’s the most interesting take I’ve ever read. Pretty spooky.

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>> No.16749102
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Yeah, pretty spooky.

>> No.16749105

if everything is highlighted...nothing is.

highlighted? highlit?

>> No.16749112

>>16749105
highloitered

>> No.16749153

>>16749092
>it's a locked chamber from which we receive no dispatch
>goes on to imagine it anyway
It's an interesting description and has it's moments but I guess I'm not spooked by fictions.

>> No.16749168

>>16749153
Are there any non-fiction depictions of Hell?

>> No.16749219

>>16749092
Is the book any good? Is the last "big" Mann book that I'm yet to read.
btw I think Joyce's description is better.

>> No.16749237

>>16749219
>Is the book any good? Is the last "big" Mann book that I'm yet to read.

Yeah, it's certainly Mann's magnum opus. It's by far his best and most daring work of literature. But I think The Magic Mountain is the ultimate comfycore. Mann's one of my favorite writers, so I can't help but be partial. Plan to read Joseph and His Brothers eventually.

>btw I think Joyce's description is better.

Quick rundown?

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>>16749168
There aren't, that was my point. Non-fiction scenarios where horrible things happen - that recent thread on evil referencing the japanese girl who was horribly tortured and murdered for example or the exploits of serial killers chill me much more effectively than rambling about "the places we go when we die" of which there are thousands upon thousands of iterations. History, in it's vast chronicling of human sin, makes attempts to portray hell seem weak and unimaginatively formed.

So, I am not the most receptive audience for finding this "spooky". I find the image (or in this case, the use of a non-image and relying on the reader imagining the "howl of hell") to be well-written and interesting but not at all spoopy. Sorry friend.

>> No.16749288

>>16749092
>actually spending the time highlighting each fucking line instead of adding ticks or half-boxes to indicate where to begin and stop reading

Was it autism?

>> No.16749329

the wiki about this guy is very favorable until it gets to the part about his pederasty

i hope he was able to test his idea of what hell is like

>> No.16749342

>>16749095
>>16749092
Bakker did it better in Aspect Emperor

>> No.16749349

>>16749092
fucks sake anon that's not a colouring book

>> No.16749393

>>16749288
>>16749349
It's a big book, with many pages. Highlighting makes it easier on the eyes and easier to find.

>> No.16749405

>>16749219
Just read the Joyce description and yeah that was some hardcore shit. Not even in the same ballpark as this literal who

>> No.16749410

Fuck, OP. Just do a bracket at the beginning and end of a long passage. If you have to, draw an asterisk on the side.

>> No.16749411

>>16749342
And his was described heavily by Joyce’s I believe.
Even the whole putting patricide in sea in a sack (think maloebi)

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>>16749288
>>16749349
>>16749410
Knock it off and leave OP alone. He's doing it right.

>this post brought to you by Avery (r), maker of many fine fluorescent ink-based products.

>> No.16749656

>faggots ITT unironically don't highlight their favorite passages

Never going to make it.

>> No.16749663

>>16749656
>just highlighting
>not actually annotating the margins

Cute!

>> No.16749717

>>16749092
Just break the highlighter open, drop the felt stick in a bucket of water, and soak the whole book in there overnight.

>> No.16749720

>>16749092
>What does /lit/ think of Thomas Mann’s depiction of Hell?
Thomas Mann was sexually attracted to his own son, so I'm sure he's rotting in hell right now.

>> No.16749812

>>16749092
this was really cool, thanks for sharing. I want to read Magic Mountain and now this by him

>> No.16750004

>>16749092
Sounds like the Hellraiser universe or the Warp in 40k

I don't know who Thomas Mann is but he's a fucking hack.

>> No.16750013

>its indescribable...beyond human language d comprehension.its...PEOPLE BEING TORTURED AND SCREAMING A LOT AND SWEARING AT EACH OTHER

SAVE ME NIGGERMAN

>> No.16750019

>>16749092
Dante's heretics sealed in blazing brass tombs for eternity sounds worse than giggling imps buttraping you with a knife, or whatever Mann is trying to imply here.

>> No.16750554

>>16749092
What book?

>> No.16750574

>>16749092
why the fuck have you done that?

want a good image of hell? you just posted it

>> No.16750591

>>16749092
Folded book
Whole pages of highlight
What a fucking brainlet move

>> No.16750667

>>16749092
Nigger just draw a line with a pencil

>> No.16750672

if you emphasize so much of the page, have you really emphasized anything?

>> No.16750713

>>16749417
kek

>> No.16751112

>>16750554
Dr. Faust.

>> No.16751209

>>16751112
Is it any good?

>> No.16751213

>>16751209
>is an acclaimed piece of work that has garnered classic status any good

>> No.16751229

>>16749247
Can you say something about that Japanese girl so I can look this up?

>> No.16751241

>>16751209
>>16751213
lol

>> No.16751249

>>16749092
>>16749095
Literal kids stuff. Baby tier compared to St. Robert Bellarmine's "Hell and Its Torments" and St. Alphonsus Liguori's "On the Eternity of Hell."

>> No.16751266

>>16749342
which book, I just finished white luck warrior and am wondering if i missed it

>> No.16751273

>>16751249
t. tradcath larper

>> No.16751430

>>16751213
>just go with the consensus
Plenty of pieces of shit are praised like Hunger Games.

>> No.16751452

>>16750004
>Sounds like the Hellraiser universe
That's what I was thinking when he got to the part of pleasure and "lusts from hell".

>> No.16751454

>”Shall I describe Hell?”
>”No, I will talk around other people’s depictions of Hell. That will suffice.”

>> No.16751520

>>16749105
Highled

>> No.16751536

>>16751430
I'm sure you have enough fucking brain power to differentiate between YA and Thomas Mann, anon...

>> No.16751553

>>16749092
Joyce’s is kino

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>>16751536
No

>> No.16751758

>>16751553
Post link?

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>>16749092
>>16749095
Draw a line down the margin of the page, you wasteful sack of shit.

>> No.16753355

>>16750591
>he doesn’t crack the spine

Found the faggot.

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>>16749092
>book opened 360 degrees
>inked af
no...

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>>16749092
people that highlight deserve the rope

>> No.16753550

>>16752291
this

>> No.16753585

Psalm 88[a]
A song. A psalm of the Sons of Korah. For the director of music. According to mahalath leannoth.[b] A maskil[c] of Heman the Ezrahite.
1 Lord, you are the God who saves me;
day and night I cry out to you.
2 May my prayer come before you;
turn your ear to my cry.

3 I am overwhelmed with troubles
and my life draws near to death.
4 I am counted among those who go down to the pit;
I am like one without strength.
5 I am set apart with the dead,
like the slain who lie in the grave,
whom you remember no more,
who are cut off from your care.

6 You have put me in the lowest pit,
in the darkest depths.
7 Your wrath lies heavily on me;
you have overwhelmed me with all your waves.[d]
8 You have taken from me my closest friends
and have made me repulsive to them.
I am confined and cannot escape;
9 my eyes are dim with grief.

I call to you, Lord, every day;
I spread out my hands to you.
10 Do you show your wonders to the dead?
Do their spirits rise up and praise you?
11 Is your love declared in the grave,
your faithfulness in Destruction[e]?
12 Are your wonders known in the place of darkness,
or your righteous deeds in the land of oblivion?

13 But I cry to you for help, Lord;
in the morning my prayer comes before you.
14 Why, Lord, do you reject me
and hide your face from me?

15 From my youth I have suffered and been close to death;
I have borne your terrors and am in despair.
16 Your wrath has swept over me;
your terrors have destroyed me.
17 All day long they surround me like a flood;
they have completely engulfed me.
18 You have taken from me friend and neighbor—
darkness is my closest friend.

>> No.16753784

>>16749092
Wait what's the diff between this and the shit wrothe by Goethe ?

>> No.16753870

The Unnamable, at least the first third or so, is as torturous a description of Catholic hell from a stream-of-consciousness perspective I can imagine.

>> No.16753882

It was interesting.

But if I see you highlighting books in public I will backhand bitch slap you.

I also decided from this that Mann is at the bottom of the list of authors I will probably never read.

>> No.16755282

>>16749092

>Closet queer
>Imagines hell as an unspeakably brutal orgy
>Normalizes pedophilia for the upper classes
>Turns all of his children gay
>super anti-Nazi

Checks out.

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>>16755282
>Closet queer
>Imagines hell as an unspeakably brutal orgy
>Normalizes pedophilia for the upper classes
>Turns all of his children gay
>super anti-Nazi
based

>> No.16756053

>>16755409
Well I knew some fag would respond this way, and it is for you such hells —should they exist— are reserved.

>> No.16756294

>>16751229
junko furuta

>> No.16757078

>>16749092
>>16749095
>"Uhh, I can't describe it, just imagine the worst and feel fear... or whatever"
Is this meant to be profound?

>> No.16757830

>>16757078
He wrote salacious fiction about pederasty and ALL THREE of his kids turned out gay.

When he was writing about unspeakable, secret violations and obscene lusts, what do imagine he was actually talking about?

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>>16756053
>Well I knew some fag would respond this way, and it is for you such hells —should they exist— are reserved.