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I really really really like Henry James

>> No.16746810

but they all look untouched?

>> No.16746825

>>16746797
he's such a chad, edith wharton simped him for a reason

>> No.16747455

bump

>> No.16747471

>>16746797
I remember reading The Turn of the Screw in 10th grade and really really not liking it

>> No.16747757

Why does he make so many second rates seethe?
http://millerworlds.blogspot.com/2010/06/writers-on-henry-james.html?m=1

>> No.16747768

>>16747471
Try out The Beast in the Jungle

>> No.16747776

>>16746797
Tryhard, wannabe frog, a*glo who tried his best to emulate complex Latinate sentences in a creole tongue.

>> No.16747817

given the volume of his collected output this nigga must’ve been writing even on the shitter. literary lifestyle rasta

>> No.16747957

>>16746797
Based. By far the best burger novelist.

John Cowper Powys on James:
"One does not, in reading these great authors, savour the actual style on every page, in every sentence. We have large blank spaces, so to speak, of straightforward colourless narrative. But there are no "blank spaces" in Henry James. Every sentence is penetrated and heavy with the fragrance of his peculiar grace. One might almost say--so strong is this subjective element in the great objective aesthete--that James writes novels like an essayist, like some epicurean Walter Pater, suddenly grown interested in common humanity, and finding in the psychology of ordinary people a provocation and a stimulus as insidious and suggestive as in the lines and colours of mediaeval art. This essayist attitude accounts largely for those superior "inverted commas" which throw such a clear space of ironic detachment round his characters and his scenes."

>> No.16747962

>>16746810
Based, OP BTFO'ed

>> No.16747990

>>16747957
Henry james wasnt american retard

>> No.16748012

>>16747990
Yes he was

>> No.16748338

>>16747990
Are you retarded?

>> No.16748363

>>16748012
>>16748338
He was spiritually latin

>> No.16748372
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>>16746797
Missing the best one

>> No.16748380

>>16748372
Thanks added it to my wish list. What's in it?

>> No.16748396

>>16746797
Haven't read James but I really like to see people take an autistic interest in specific authors. Keep it up, good buddy.

>> No.16748415

>>16748380
selected literary criticism

>> No.16748419

>>16748415
yeah I see that lol I meant who does he write about. can you post a pic of the table of contents?

>> No.16748434
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>>16748419
It’s around 600 pages of this. Very fun to read him tear apart other writers.

>> No.16748436

I have The Bostonians in my shelf, how is it?

>> No.16748446

>>16748434
thank you fren

>> No.16748452

>>16748436
You have a book on your shelf that you haven’t read or even bothered to check out the first couple pages?

>> No.16748472

>>16748452
Not that guy, but I have about two dozen.

>> No.16748487

>>16748472
That’s sad pseud shit

>> No.16748491

>>16748487
I have a fear of reading.

>> No.16748495

>>16746797
>it's a "it turns out to be his dads collection" post

>> No.16748502

>>16748491
Then why do you own books?

>> No.16748522

>>16748502
to show off on shelf threads

>> No.16748539

>>16746797
I've only read a few of his early novels (The American and Washington Square), but I liked his writing style. He's an author that I have planned to go through chronologically, but his massive output is daunting.

What's everyone's favorite James work?

>> No.16748777

bump

>> No.16748797

>>16748434
Looks based.

>> No.16748902

>>16746797
Georgina’s Reasons>Daisy Miller>All Others

>> No.16749401

bump

>> No.16749561

>>16748363

nice backpedaling

>> No.16749611

Where do I start with James? Been meaning to for awhile now. Was thinking Turn of the

>> No.16749621

>>16749611
Short story: The Beast in the Jungle
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1093/1093-h/1093-h.htm
Novel: The Portrait of a Lady or The Bostonians

>> No.16749759

>>16749621
Thanks will check them out

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A CHALLENGER APPEARS

>> No.16749990

>>16748539
>What's everyone's favorite James work?
Probably the best one.

>> No.16749993

>>16749984
BRUH, you are very based good sir.

>> No.16750017

I just read the Turn of the Screw/. The Norton Critical Edition is great because it contains a lot of great critiques.

>> No.16750145

>>16749984
Hello Jamesfren

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>>16746797
I recently took the James pill myself anon. Hats off to you.

>> No.16751727

For me, it's What Maisie Knew. Though I can't think of a film which has understood the source material less

>> No.16752079

>>16746810
>>16746797
we've had this exact thread several times you're gonna give me a stroke

>> No.16752643

Dear friends, I've been really into Edith Wharton lately (still can't believe I actually enjoy reading a canonized woman, but here we are). A week ago when I had a long car ride ahead of me I put on the Washington Square audiobook... besides the fact that the lady who reads it has a nasally Sarah Silverman drawl, the book just hasn't appealed to me. I don't know if it's Washington Square or the hardly-retentive way I'm assimilating it or my own failure to Get It, but that book just has none of the depth or even the humor I found in Wharton.

Do fans have tips, tricks, insights, or lifehacks for James? I realize now he's perhaps the worst kind of author to "read" in audiobook form so I'll probably try to blitz through Washington Square as best as James can be blitzed through on Gutenberg. Then give Daisy Miller a chance. I do notice that alpha male OP is pretty much free of the entry-level stuff, though!

>> No.16752658

>>16749984
Truman In Cold Capote Blood

>> No.16752680

>>16748452
>he doesn't stockpile books en masse from library sales
>he can't imagine using a bookshelf for anything else besides showing off how well-read he is

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>>16750307
>not including his literary criticisms

LOL

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>>16746797
It's good to have a favorite, bro

>> No.16752708

>>16749984
>has his literary criticisms
Based

>> No.16752795

>>16752698
Where should one start with Mann?

>> No.16752829

>>16752795
Buddenbrooks if you're not ambitious and Joseph if you are. Faustus if you're into the study of music or Magic Mountain if you're a layabout NEET.

>> No.16752863

>>16752795
I would say short stories actually. Tonio Kroger is probably /lit/ personified

>> No.16752869

>>16752829
Garsh, now I've gotta introspect. Does it make sense to read Joseph as a stepladder to Buddenbrooks?

>> No.16752896

>>16752863
Never hurts to do shorter stuff first, thanks. Do either of the two who've responded have any opinion on Mannslation?

>> No.16752921

>>16752869
I did it in that order and it was perfectly fun. I actually started with Joseph by pure chance, it just seemed interesting to me, at least more interesting than the over-representation of the Magic Mountain that Mann discussion typically results in.

>> No.16752957

>>16752921
To be frank I know exceedingly little about how Mann is perceived or what's considered Important or Interesting From A Critical Perspective from him (which is how I prefer it). Was actually planning to read some Mishima at the start of the New Year, now I'm excited to work Mann in as a prelude.

>> No.16753008

>>16752957
I get the impression his reputation isn't as high as it was maybe 50 years ago when he was considered one of the greats

>> No.16753041

>>16752957
I mean I didn't know anything about Mann either but, whenever I did see people discuss him, it was always MM, or on the annual top 100 it was always MM that defined his inclusion, perhaps also a secondary appearance of Doctor Faustus later on down the rankings. As far as great classic doorstoppers go, or even religious story adaptations in general, I wasn't at all aware that Joseph even existed, so when I saw Mann's name next to this strange book I had never seen before, it piqued my interest and I bought it. As it turns out, Joseph and Buddenbrooks, his two least-mentioned major novels, are actually my favorite of the four.

I suggest you take a peek if either of them sound interesting to you.

>> No.16753133

>>16753041
Joseph was even out of print for a long time before the recent Everyman version.
Such an impressive book though, think it's just too long to be more widely read. He doesn't do that trick bad historical novelists do of having his characters think modern thoughts
Some of the set pieces are spectacular, the brothers putting him in the well, when they reach Egypt and its like Tolkien, Potiphars wife losing her mind.
I really liked the way he treated everything realistically, but still left room for ambiguity that God is in the story, like the guide that takes them to Egypt.

>> No.16753200

>>16753041
>>16753041
I sure will, and idgaf about "the annual top 100" though lol