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Why is Machiavellianism so frowned upon in today's society?

>> No.16740391

>>16740378
He did not live a hard life

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>>16740378
And the worst part is how completely ungrateful you are to me even when I put up with you and your dorky family. Let me tell you, people like Lakme or Haley or Fanny would not even pretend to give the slightest fuck about your dilation schedule or your favorite childhood Flintstone cartoons or any of that other inane bullshit. I was nothing but kind. You think I actually WANT to hear your brother and his fat fuck wife about their stupid bullshit? or Buffalo Bill? I was nothing but kind when most people wouldn't be.

>> No.16740412

>>16740391
Didn't he get imprisoned?

>> No.16740454

>>16740378
What? Politicians everywhere still use it. Do bad shit for good outcomes. The plebs won't care as long as they benefit.

>> No.16740457

>>16740378
>Why is Machiavellianism so frowned upon in today's society?
>the greatest Machiavellian event in centuries just occurred

>> No.16740474

>>16740378
Because we like to believe, in our modern societies, that we have evolved to a point where positive values are of prime importance, even though a gagged part of ourselves knows perfectly well that there is no road to power, or its exercise, that isn't muddied with lies, manipulation, etc...

>> No.16740565

>>16740378
Because people will literally always be too retarded to even understand what it means let alone that it's extremely incorrect.

There is no end, only the means, fuck governning with an iron fist like intended by that passage. If you govern based on terminal ANYTHING and you're doomed to be swept away. The means are eternal, hence the importance of tradition.

>> No.16740578

>>16740412
11:11:11

>> No.16741029

>>16740578
just need to do that again in two more days bros...

>> No.16741069

>>16740378
We don't need to unite a bunch of unstable minor states into a real country anymore and corruption is also a bigger problem.

>> No.16741294

>>16740378
Humanism and Individualism are more popular values, and Machiavellianism sacrifices the individual for the order of the group.

>> No.16741532

Because Machiavellianism will always be frowned upon in broad society. Just as much as it's frowned upon in closer-knit matters. In order to frown upon something you first have to notice it, Machiavellianism is never supposed to be witnessed.