/lit/ - Literature

>>16728928
>he is too cool

>>16728928
He provides a simply understood and striking philosophy for the modern times. We can say he laid the very shape for modern thought, but that would suppose the simple understanding of his philosophy is the right one.

>>16728928
The death of God is a Christian theme

>>16728941
Ancient Greek philosophy already touched on the themes of Atheism, Nihilism and the effects this could have on society. Many Intellectuals in the Roman era were Atheists.

>>16728968
What I mean is that the Death of God is a theme from western philosophy and actually pre-christian.

FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE WAS A SCHIZOPATH WHOSE PSEUDOPHILOSOPHY IS A TRUE REFLECTION OF HIS MORBID PSYKHE; IN A MORBID WORLD THE MORBID HAS MASSIVE APPEAL.

>>16728928
It’s his name and how he looks. Just a very unique iconography to him, compounded by the fact that his philosophy rejects prior philosophies so he’s more an isolated figure

>>16728928
I doubt they have read him. You need to read so many books to even grasp what he is talking about. They know God is dead, out of context.

>>16728928
his inversion of judeo-christian values is the norm these days

>>16728928
Normies don't know what elitism is.

>>16729118
not true, normies think they're elite if they have a bachelor's degree

>>16729114
No, the modern anti-meritocratic tendencies and virulent egalitarianism is just the application of Judeo-Christian values in the secular framework, and quite similar to Communism. Nothing new there, it's just a degenerated form Christianity. On the plus side, they will fail more quickly than even Christianity could.

>>16729195
very low IQ take anon

Because everyone can cherry pick 1% of his thought that alligns with their ideology

>>16728928
Because he, as the kids would say it, "btfos" the "snobby pretentious" philosophers before him.

>>16729195
>anti-meritocratic
this is a good thing.

>>16728937
You explained it perfectly. Nietzsche was one of those 1 in a billion types of minds who was capable of looking 50-100 years into the future, he predicted everything we're going through right now- which is why he's still so relevant for thoughtful discussions

>>16728928
I think there’s a difference between people that like Nietzsche for only reading Zarathustra or only reading one of his other books

>>16728928
If they cared, they'd read him, but they don't. They just look at Wikipedia articles and maybe watch some videos. They don't dive into the literature, much less any follow-up literature. Anyone who looks at the recent state of /lit/ threads about Nietzsche and has actually read him should see that "normies" have an extremely shallow idea of his work. They're not afraid to slap on whatever political label they want on him, and they take every single aphorism of his at face value. They don't show any acknowledgement towards his deeper ideas, like will to power or amor fati.

He's probably only mainstream because his work had such a significant impact on Western culture in the 20th century.

Most people only know what nihilism is from the big lebowski and Rick and Morty. Maybe they watched a 10 min youtube video on nitch. Have they actually read him? Absolutely not. He just has a lot of catchy aphorisms.

>>16728928
It was HIS fault.

>>16728928
NEECHA

>>16728928
>he is the only philosopher who everyone is guaranteed to know about
No fucking way.

>>16728928
Because he was a normie.

I have only read The Birth of Tragedy.
Cured me of my realism-faggotry.

>>16728928
It's the moustache

>>16728928
Aphorisms

>>16728928
because hes right

I just can't agree with the end result of his master/slave distinction and the ideas of ressentiment which is basically "Chads can do whatever the fuck they want and their thoughtlessness just makes them even more of a Chad. Get fucked".

>>16731662
You didn't understand him at all. Read Deleuze's Nietzsche and Philosophy and some of the Heidegger lectures on him if you want to really know what he meant by ressentiment (it doesnt lead to Chad's doing whatever they want).

>>16729468
>We want to be constantly held down by the idiots and retards
I now understand why so many idiots and retards like Communism.

Because he is solely responsible for the rise of national socialism.

>>16732101
Can you explain it in simple terms?

>>16732230
No faggot, anon has a life to live. Wrestle with the ideas yourself if you crave understanding. Stop asking to be spoon-fed you fucking man child.

>>16729079
>You need to read so many books to even grasp what he is talking about.
Which ones?

>>16732213
>he is solely responsible
I thought that was Wagner.

>>16732248
I'll just assume neither you nor he has anything intelligent to say then

>>16732248
Do you remember how a book doesn't answer you if you ask?

Because of Kaufmann

>>16732101
>it doesnt lead to Chad's doing whatever they want
It really does, in Genealogy of Morality he uses shit like the vikings and german barbarians in Roman times as exemplars of the "Master" morality. He's like "better to rape people and conquer people to live life to the fullest than be like a snivelling loser who gets mad at it because he can't fight back".

Correct what I've missed if I've gone so wrong.

>>16728928
>know so much
the majority know of him through secondary resources that like to scapegoat him for muh nazism but lack the knowledge to know that his sister twisted his work to drown in nazi dick. Anyone who actually took the time to read him would know that he saw Germans as politically obsessed barbarians while preferring the cultural refinement of the Frogs.

>she assumed the role of editing Nietzsche’s manuscripts and in so doing, reworked them to fit her nationalist ideology, which was quite often opposite the stated opinions of her brother. Years before, when told of his sister and brother-in-law’s plans to create a German colony, he had reportedly responded with mocking laughter. Nietzsche spoke out against anti-Semitism before his breakdown and his friendship to Richard Wagner was strained because of the composer’s views.

>Förster-Nietzsche used her brother’s name to publish his manuscripts containing ideas that contradicted his views and adhered to her own. She died at the age of 89 in 1935, exactly 35 years after the death of her brother. Her funeral was attended by several high-ranking German officials, including Hitler himself.

>>16732572
Nietzsche also said that Jews invented hatred lol

>>16732505
At least the early dialogues of Plato, any of the stoics just for reference, Kant, basic understanding of frog philosophies

>>16728928
test

>>16732564
>>16732101
To add to this, he states that the superiority of the Overman means he isn't bound to any conventional morality. Humans to the overman are like worms to humans and thus "seethe more lmao" is basically his response to anyone who gets mad at dominating people who have no regard for the rights of others.

>>16732577
Kant is too hard for me, bro. I think I'll never read him.

>>16732588
The groundwork isn't too hard and is pretty short. He does write like shit though. I had to reread sentences so many times just to follow him. My kindle version is littered with notes.

>>16732588
It's fine, you don't have to corrupt your pretty soul with g*rman idealism.
All a man really, really needs is Epicurus, Aquinas and Spinoza.

>>16732594
Did you read the Phenomenology?
I thought Kauffman was a good intro...
:/

>>16732603
And what about Plato?
I have and edition of Deleuze's Spinoza, should I keep reading it?

>>16732576
That would be the Christians. Like Machiavelli, from whom he stole a lot of ideas, he believed that the whole premise of the meek inheriting the world was an opportunity for weak, wicked men to come into power.

>>16732617
No it was the Jews, Christianity was just a further expression of Jewish hatred:

– But you don’t understand that? You don’t have eyes for something
that needed two millennia to achieve victory? . . . There is nothing surprising about that: all long things are difficult to see, to see round. But that
is what happened: from the trunk of the tree of revenge and hatred,
Jewish hatred – the deepest and most sublime, indeed a hatred which
created ideals and changed values, the like of which has never been seen
on earth – there grew something just as incomparable, a new love, the
deepest and most sublime kind of love: – and what other trunk could it
have grown out of? . . . But don’t make the mistake of thinking that it had
grown forth as a denial of the thirst for revenge, as the opposite of Jewish
hatred! No, the reverse is true! This love grew out of the hatred, as its
crown, as the triumphant crown expanding ever wider in the purest
brightness and radiance of the sun, the crown which, as it were, in the
realm of light and height, was pursuing the aims of that hatred, victory,
spoils, seduction with the same urgency with which the roots of that
hatred were burrowing ever more thoroughly and greedily into everything that was deep and evil. This Jesus of Nazareth, as the embodiment
of the gospel of love, this ‘redeemer’ bringing salvation and victory to the
poor, the sick, to sinners – was he not seduction in its most sinister and
irresistible form, seduction and the circuitous route to just those very
Jewish values and innovative ideals?

>>16732617
He rants at Christians a lot due to their dominance in Europe but he says that the ressentiment morality originated with the Jews.

>>16732594
>kant writes like shit
hates this meme or maybe i'm the one judging wrong. While Kant can be a bit dry sometimes i think his overall style is fairly pleasant to read and easy to understand.

>>16732603
>It's fine, you don't have to corrupt your pretty soul with g*rman idealism.
I have an interest in Schopenhauer (in his Parerga and Paralepomena at least).
He seems pretty based and resonate a lot with me.

>>16732637
I just found that if I missed one or two words then I'd lose the meaning of his many extended paragraphs. I had to focus so much when reading it. Sure, you can say that's to be expected of you but it's still exhausting considering.

>>16732564
>He's like "better to rape people and conquer people to live life to the fullest than be like a snivelling loser who gets mad at it because he can't fight back"
Which aphorism are you referring to here?

>>16732643
Then you need Plato and at least some basic Kant (like Prolegomena).

>>16732732
>"Exactly the opposite is true of the noble one who conceives the basic idea ‘good’ by himself, in advance and spontaneously, and only then creates a notion of ‘bad’! This ‘bad’ of noble origin and that ‘evil’ from the cauldron of unassuaged hatred – the first is an afterthought, an aside, a complementary colour, whilst the other is the original, the beginning, the actual deed in the conception of slave morality – how different are the two words ‘bad’ and ‘evil’, although both seem to be the opposite for the same concept, ‘good’! But it is not the same concept ‘good’; on the contrary, one should ask who is actually evil in the sense of the morality of ressentiment. The stern reply is: precisely the ‘good’ person of the other morality, the noble, powerful, dominating one, but re-touched, re-interpreted and reviewed through the poisonous eye of ressentiment. Here there is one point we would be the last to deny: anyone who came to know these ‘good ones’ as enemies came to know nothing but ‘evil enemies’, and the same people who are so strongly held in check by custom, respect, habit, gratitude and even more through spying on one another and through peer-group jealousy, who, on the other hand, behave towards one another by showing such resourcefulness in consideration, self-control, delicacy, loyalty, pride and friendship, – they are not much better than uncaged beasts of prey in the world outside where the strange, the foreign, begin. There they enjoy freedom from every social constraint, in the wilderness they compensate for the tension which is caused by being closed in and fenced in by the peace of the community for so long, they return to the innocent conscience of the wild beast, as exultant monsters, who perhaps go away having committed a hideous succession of murder, arson, rape and torture, in a mood of bravado and spiritual equilibrium as though they had simply played a student’s prank, convinced that poets will now have something to sing about and celebrate for quite some time. At the centre of all these noble races we cannot fail to see the beast of prey, the magnificent blond beast avidly prowling round for spoil and victory; this hidden centre needs release from time to time, the beast must out again, must return to the wild: – Roman, Arabian, Germanic, Japanese nobility, Homeric heroes, Scandinavian Vikings – in this requirement they are all alike. It was the noble races which left the concept of ‘barbarian’ in their traces wherever they went; even their highest culture betrays the fact that they were conscious of this and indeed proud of it" (from "Nietzsche: On the Genealogy of Morality and Other Writings: 'On the Genealogy of Morality' and Other Writings (Cambridge Texts in the History of Political Thought)" by Friedrich Nietzsche, Keith Ansell-Pearson, Carol Diethe)

>>16732732
>>16732775
Or to be more specific

>They return to the innocent conscience of the wild beast, as exultant monsters, who perhaps go away having committed a hideous succession of murder, arson, rape and torture, in a mood of bravado and spiritual equilibrium as though they had simply played a student’s prank, [...] At the centre of all these noble races [...] the beast must out again, must return to the wild. It was the noble races which left the concept of ‘barbarian’ in their traces wherever they went; even their highest culture betrays the fact that they were conscious of this and indeed proud of it

>>16732775
>>16732787
Damn, I forgot just how far Nietzsche goes in that book. Thanks for sharing that.

Yes, it definitely appears that he advocated for a return to those "nobler" races, the "barbarians" of older times. There's really no beating around the bush on it, especially given that passage. But what's the problem with that? How could the Antichrist advocate differently? What would going beyond good and evil mean, otherwise?

>>16728928
Honestly, moderns probably historically need him to even understand who we are, whatever philosophy we wrongly attribute to him probably needs to be this way so that we can cope with the death of god whatever that may mean... i guess.

They just know him as the edgy nihilist who hated God and influenced the nazis.

>>16728928
Because Nietzsche writes like a redittor. Insulting the common man as the life-denier that he is.
His passion for greatness is only an excuse for the hatred of life.

>>16733210
Nietzsche is an incredible writer though

>>16729907
Live. Laugh. Love. Every woman knows that.

>>16733210
He doesn't insult the common man. In fact, he defended the common man against the socialists of his time in The Antichrist:

>Whom do I hate most heartily among the rabbles of today? The rabble of Socialists, the apostles to the Chandala, who undermine the workingman’s instincts, his pleasure, his feeling of contentment with his petty existence—who make him envious and teach him revenge.... Wrong never lies in unequal rights; it lies in the assertion of “equal” rights.... What is bad? But I have already answered: all that proceeds from weakness, from envy, from revenge.

>>16728928
Normies tend to fancy themselves elites.

>>16734380
Nice cope
>To me, the masses seem to be worth a glance only in three respects: first as blurred copies of great men, presented on bad paper with worn out printing plates, then as the resistance against the great men, and finally as working implements of the great. For the rest, let the devil and statistics carry them off!

>>16734632
The masses don't disagree with or feel slighted by that statement and it's not incompatible with the quote I posted, either. You are a shallow thinker who needs to GTFO.

>>16732637
They are likely reading in English, a non-language

After reading and enjoying Plato's Last Days of Socrates, I was feeling pretty good, so I picked up neetch. I'm towards the end of Beyond Good and Evil and I get about 20% of what he says and feel absolutely retarded.

>>16734649
lol ok incel.

>>16734632
This sounds very nazi-like

>>16734632

>>16736391
>incel
Another Marxist tranny without an argument, I see.

>>16736639
No it just makes Neetch a pleb and larper

>>16728928
Because he was one of the best if not the best philosopher. Everyone knows some of his quotes even if they don’t know they came from him

>>16736754
>people like things because they are the best
https://youtu.be/5sXerR4Retw

>>16736754
>Everyone knows some of his quotes
Name one (1).

They don't. Nietzsche was not the edgy atheistic nihilist Americans pretend he is. He was against nihilism and saw it as the biggest threat to European culture. You really can't pigeon hole Nietzsche. His thinking is characterized by multiple phases and he contradicts himself on purpose, constantly. Also, reading him in English is cringe af especially Kauffman

>>16736744
>dumbass calls the greatest 19th century thinker a pleb and larper

>>16736805
>and he contradicts himself on purpose, constantly
For what reason?

>>16736805
>he contradicts himself on purpose
Why does everyone say this?

>>16736807
>greatest 19th century thinker
lmao the cope

>>16736824
To explore all possible perspectives. Remember: a philosopher is not an opinion giver. He challenges the reader to think through different sides of ideas

>>16736830
Because it's true?

>>16736805
Wouldn't reading him in German be the ultimate cringe though?

>>16736805
>>16736847
>he was just pretending to be stupid

>>16736847
>Because it's true?
Give one example.

>>16736847
This is a very good answer. Thanks anon.

>>16736847
>neetch used the socratic method

>>16736856
You must not have read a lot of philosophy if you think thinkers contradicting themselves is rare

>>16736857
Why would I? I have no interest in convincing pseuds. I studied under one of the foremost Nietzsche experts in Europe. If you're too stupid to understand basic philosophy, why bother?

>>16736840
Name 1 who was better

>>16736880
>I studied under one of the foremost Nietzsche experts in Europe.

>>16736880
>I studied under one of the foremost Nietzsche experts in Europe.
Then I'd have thought you would jump at the chance to talk about Nietzsche! Don't you have a favourite contradiction of his that you have studied in depth and have interesting thoughts about that you can't resist sharing with your fellow /lit/izens?

>>16736880
Explain how perspectivism isn't just twitter's "This comment is disputed" bullshit.

>>16736931
>twitter
it's my perspective that you should kill yourself immediately

>>16728928
>Elitist
>Ended up as R*ddit's philosopher
Colour me shocked. All you haven't put together is how our modern society is made of women, specifically gold-digging women. Even the men in our society are often women, because everyone worships wealth and status. So in our society there are few men, just women, and the metaphorically womanish.

What does a female society love to hear about most? "Bad boys," such as bank-robbers, tyrants, criminals, spies, cowboys, soldiers, mafiosi, and immoral men in general. All of TV is porn for the female mind. Similarly, Nietzsche, writes about the supposed virtues of criminal types of men, so called "great men" by which Napoleon, Goethe and Alexander are meant.

So Nietzsche gives our whole society one giant clitoral erection; he can conjure up the image of immoral men with his prose, but it's at a safe distance.

>>16736934
>studied under top scholar
>can't read

>>16736936
Based.

>>16736953
not that guy obviously you massive retard

I don't come here to discuss reddit and twitter.

>>16736883
Schopenhauer

The Stoic would have you obey an imaginary conductor and play your part in a natural orchestra. Nietzche rocks up to the concert hall of life with his own ghetto blaster.

>>16736966
nice cope

Edge, it’s because he’s edgy and the normie is edgy, they also identify the ubermensch with being a slave to ones own lowest consumerist desires, so you go from a mindless consumer to a GLORIOUS ubermensch. Ignore folks who claim to love Nietzsche and cannot speak of anything they truly disagree with him on, who cannot speak of any other philosopher. They’re just being edgy.

>>16736994
ok twittertard

>>16736880
>I studied under one of the foremost Nietzsche experts in Europe.
and your best take is "YOU DIDN'T READ HIM!"
what a joker.

>>16737011
Then what philosopher do you recommend if not neet?

>>16731662
Why, because it's wrong or because you want a world that's convenient for you?

BTW Nietzsche heralds art and artists, and while he favors the master doesn't want to produce only the dumbass brutish masters of the past. If you were a good student you'd know this. Men like Frederick the Great are higher in his estimate than brutish conquerors.

>>16732564
>He's like "better to rape people and conquer people to live life to the fullest than be like a snivelling loser who gets mad at it because he can't fight back".
This is just fucking true though. It is better to oppress than to be oppressed. Why are you resisting an obviously reasonable statement?

>>16737116
So why did he sit in a room crying about how hard life is?

>>16737092

It’s not that Nietzsche is bad, here’s a crash course that’ll let you fully appreciate hegel and then you can understand how much the western is fulfilled in his work and how much is directly in spite/against/reaction to his work. Then you can understand the context of someone like a Nietzsche.

Heraclitus -> Parmenides -> Aristotle -> Plotinus -> St. Augustine -> Scotus -> Spinoza -> Kant -> Fichte (if you want) -> Schelling -> Hegel

H: Fragments
P: Fragments, On the Name (?)
A: Metaphysics, Politics, Rhetoric, On the Soul
P: Enneads, Against the Gnostics
St. A: On the Trinity, City of God, On Order, Political Writings
Scot: Philosophical Writings, De Ordinatio, De Primo Principo, A Treatise i'm God (?)
Spin: Ethics, Tractatus, Politics, The Book of God (?)
K: Prolegomena, CPR, Critique of Practical Reason
F (Up to you if it's necessary to understand Post-Kantian influences): Foundations of Science, Science of Knowledge
Schel: Ideas for a Phil. of Nature
Hegel: Early Theo. Writings, Difference between Fichte & Schelling, Faith and Knowledge, Phil. of Spirit (first Phenomenology draft), Phenomenology, Science of Logic, Encyclopedia of Phil. Sci, Phil. of Right, Lectures on the Phil. of History, Life of Jesus, Lectures on the Phil. of Religion

This is just if you want an understanding of Hegel, Nietzsche has Spinozist and Hegelian elements both directly and against, and there are many many other philosophers with other paths of reading and building of their theories which you could read, Hegel is just a good point due to his massive influence on continental philosophy as a whole. Genuinely if you want to understand Nietzsche you need to read the Greeks.

>>16732787
>>16732775
This is what happens when you don't Return to the Greeks.

>>16736936
Reddit fucking hates Nietzsche you virgin

>>16737124
>Genuinely if you want to understand Nietzsche you need to read the Greeks.
Wrong. Nietzsche didn't understand the Greeks so reading them won't do shit.
And if you need to read an entire taxonomy of thought to get to someone's conclusion then their philosophy isn't worth shit. Or you're just retarded, infected with the progressive mind virus.

>>16737122
Because we're proposing a simple dichotomy and saying one is better as a supposition, not proposing you have to choose one as a total life philosophy you imbecile.

>>16737136
lmao almost all the nietzschefags here are from reddit.

>>16737145
Nietzsche understood Greek better than you, fag.

>>16737152
Cope

>>16737146

>>16737145

Reading them will let you know what he’s reacting to and commenting on, even if something like the Dionysian-apollonian dichotomy is a larp he invented with no basis in the material for example.

And there’s literally nothing wrong with getting a compete education and understanding of a authors work by understanding his context and the evolution of their thought, stop being lazy.

>>16737153
>hating plato
>understanding greeks

>>16737177
He didn't "hate" Plato, stop being a retard.

>>16737164
>clearly btfo
>understanding of Nietzsche destroyed in a couple quick lines
>sweating mad, I MUST reply to this
>quick, I'll find a mouth gaper to post
>it doesn't fit, but who cares, POST!
>heh heh that got him :) loser!

Or at least that's how I imagine this pathetic, flailing reply.

>>16737177

Pretty sure his favorite work was Plato's Symposium. And his graduating thesis was on the poet Theognis of Megara.

This thread is all you need to understand that Nietzsche was the ultimate pleb.

>>16737191
>Or at least that's how I imagine this pathetic, flailing reply.

>>16728928
Because he spoke a lot of truths that most people intuitively understand/believe to be correct but that they would never vocalise in the modern world.

His style of thinking has gone so seriously out of fashion that there is no true modern equivalent (or anything close). Had his books been written in 2020 he would be in jail for committing multiple hate-crimes. But they were written in the 1800s and were considered genius by a huge number of highly-rated intellectuals before WW2 - to write him off now would be to write all most Western intellectuals 1880-1940.

So he's bulletproof. But his thought simply doesn't exist anymore. Despite reaching many "truths" (or, at least, valid perspectives). Hence when normies discover his work (and realise they are allowed to read him, unlike anyone else who wrote like him) it leaves a strong mark, a strong impression.

>>16737200
>tripfaggot
>can't read

>>16737227
Another midwit redditor appears.

>>16737184
Yeah he seethed about Plato his whole life because he liked him. Fucking retards, why is every Nietzsche thread so shit?

>>16737255
Debate me faggot. Do you think someone could publish this (>>16732787) in Germany/Europe in 2020 without getting arrested?

>>16737261
Why are you incapable of nuance if you claim to be so smart?

>>16736931
Based. Neetchfags can't into logic.

>>16736936
One thing the 'virtuous' will never understand is how boring they are. If life and the passions weren't meant to be experienced and harmony was all that was sought after then virtue would be the rule. Before the fall man lived harmoniously in nature with-out tension. His disanant,
dis- embedding is precisely what makes him interesting and separate from the lower order animals. You can denounce this fact and label it womanly (as all those tranquilized do )but it exists as the primary cause of all the arts and beauty that make living enjoyable and distinct.

>>16737261
>seethed about Plato
You haven't read him at all, have you? Why would he "seethe" about Plato? Do you even understand what his gripes with Plato entail?

>>16737263
>retarded 'scholar' outs himself

>>16737282
>You haven't read him
So THIS is the power of the eternal return.

>>16737290
If you did read him, then why do you keep getting things wrong about him?

>>16737268
Where did I claim to be smart?

>>16737294
>keep getting things wrong
I've said two things.

>>16737309
And both were wrong lol

>>16737268
>thinking neetch's position on Plato is nuanced
OH NO NO NO

yooooooooooooooo

>>16737275
>cause of all the arts and beauty

>>16737341
Reddit's obsession with space travel is one of the only based things about it, I literally do not even trust you as a human if you don't see the greatness in sending bits of metal flying through the void to different planets

>>16737275
>as all those tranquilized do
You don't even see how cringe you are

>>16737354
lmao >>16737152

>>16737341
>>16737319
>>16737290
Goddamn this guy got boring fast. Dead thread, it got sperged out by this weirdo

>>16737366
Shitting on space travel just makes you a nigger

>>16737398
Imagine being this retarded.

>>16737398

Folks don’t like child-like enthusiasm for the future, they find it too Apollonian. Space obsession is pretty fine in my book.

>>16737387
>arguments are boring
Nice scholarship faggot.

>>16737398
Being a Muskfaggot makes you even lower

>>16736880
>"God", "immortality of the soul", "redemption", "beyond" -- Without exception, concepts to which I have never devoted any attention, or time; not even as a child. Perhaps I have never been childlike enough for them?
>I do not by any means know atheism as a result; even less as an event: It is a matter of course with me, from instinct. I am too inquisitive, too questionable, too exuberant to stand for any gross answer. God is a gross answer, an indelicacy against us thinkers - at bottom merely a gross prohibition for us: you shall not think!
So you should be able to explain the cringe/based contradiction.

>>16737283
Never claimed to be a scholar lmao. I've got an MA in Philosophy but anyone with a middling IQ and a propensity for bad life choices could do the same. I bet you're a weedy virgin who bases his self-esteem on considering himself "an intellectual" compared to strangers on the internet.

I will pray for you.

>>16736936
Extremely based.
>>16737275
Cringe incel

>>16737263
>t. never heard of Wakanda

>>16737263

>>16737468
That slavish physiognomy says it all. Less than a peasant.

>>16737200
go back /x/

>>16737456
Not him, but he's really just shitting on the "God of the gaps" argument here, and saying that it's an anti-scientific sentiment, which it is.

>>16737387
You had a chance to save it. Weak-minded.

>>16737586
No wonder he went insane his sister got all the noble genes and he got the left over science shit. How is a physiognomy difference like that possible?
https://youtu.be/_WyD94vNqWg

Nietzsche's legacy
>psychologists
>Deleuze
>postmodernism
>Land
>redditfags
>twitterfags

>>16736936
Basically everyone he plagiarized he also attacked like a little bitch too.

>>16737275
>Before the fall man lived harmoniously in nature with-out tension.
If he hated Christianity so much why did he assume it was true?

>>16729199
No, he's right.

>>16732213
Retarded take, he hated nationalism and was pro-European.

>>16736800
Everything that doesn't kill me makes me stronger

>>16736936
Cringe af

>>16737711
2 of these are based though

>>16728928
Everyone knows of him but very few people know what he actually espoused. The public image is very distorted.

>>16737145
>Nietzsche didn't understand the Greeks
He was appointed a classics professor at Basel when he was only 24. If HE didn't understand the Greeks who does?

>>16737145
>if you need to read an entire taxonomy of thought to get to someone's conclusion then their philosophy isn't worth shit.
This is particularly untrue with Nietzsche, who relies on the reader to be familiar with what he responds to for his inversions and plays on words to provoke the correct reflection.

>>16737989
>If HE didn't understand the Greeks who does?
Butthurt Platonists posting on an anonymous Bavarian electrical machinery manufacturing forum, obviously.

>>16729907
yeah i remember that shitty song of Kelly Clarkson, what doesn´t kill makes you stronger, what an embarrasment of a song

>>16730662
NEVER!

>>16732585
does neetszche advocates being an amoral person?

>>16736856
this is true tho, i´ve been bullied all my life, now i don´t give a shit about normies and keep pushing my personality on them, they can´t touch me

>>16738693
>i´ve been bullied all my life
Obviously it didn't make a difference. Keep that shit to yourself, retard.

>>16738647
always

>>16728928
Normies watch John Green youtube videos and secretly consider themselves highly educated in science and philosophy

>>16737874
such as?

>>16737989
doesn't mean shit. Emily Wilson is a celebrated classics professor.
>>16738381
you got btfo in the other thread.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9696951/#9697054

>>16738693
so you were bullied just like Nietzsche and now think you are an expert on power because you fantasize about shit you could have said decades ago.

Becoming: the naked branches of a winter tree clawing for their last gasp of sunlight before hibernation. An intact skeleton in a constant state of shedding its cells: birth, and death. Does true greatness not start with this acceptance? That ultimately all growth is a revitalisation of pain; the Autumn storm knocks the leaves into the soil below and is then fed to its roots. If only the human was born into such a simple condition!

>>16739604
What is this?

>>16739504
that´s where you´re wrong bucko

>>16736979
Based

>>16739962
have to write in the style of Nietzsche's aphorisms for an assignment and wanted to see the response it got kek

>>16738939
You forgot School of Life anon. Truly necessary for a well-rounded education

>>16739604
>>16740347
This actually isn't that bad.

>>16732588
Try reading Deleuze's Kant's Critical Philosophy, its a great concise intro to his philosophy, contrary to his typical reputation for obscurantism.

because he was a poet

>>16739604
>>16740347
nice

>>16736856
he definitely owned himself.

>>16735845
Nietzsche has his own style, and dont forget, that he reacts to the whole philosophical canon before him and especially the now obscure thought of his own time (french, anglo moralists especially, darwin etc). Dont be hard on yourself if you dont get him. Come back later, Nietzsche isnt entry level.

>>16737145
>the guy who read greek philosophy since childhood, who wrote award winning essays on greeks and got the position of classic philology professor at 24 y/o, who taught greeks at both university and gymnasium, who made greek language mandatory in gymnasium actually didnt understand greeks