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You can't read Freud just so you can Lacan.

Lacan is just trying to put Freud into a structuralist framework.

The Freud is the point and Lacan is contextualising it.

>>16719043
Well what is some stuff that still holds up. I know he liked Nietzsche so I'm good on that.

>>16719067

Just get the Penguin Freud Reader.

>>16719067
it's on archive, good overview

>>16719147
Looks good, thanks dog. Who has enough time to read the whole cannon?

>>16719022
Read Bruce Fink's A Clinical Introduction to Freud. He's a Lacanian so it's perfect for you. His books on Lacan are worth checking out as well, you're gonna need some secondary sources if you wanna understand it

>>16719207
I was going to ask for some secondary on Lacan too, thanks dude.

>>16719022
Peter Gay's bio
Philip Rieff's Freud: The Mind of the Moralist

>>16719022
a primer of freudian psychology

>>16719022
I want to read Freud. Where should I start?

>>16721726
Interpretation of Dreams, banal as it may sound. Then read The Introductory Lectures, then the far shorter New Introductory Lectures.

>>16719022
Not designed to be an intro to freud, but I felt like I had a better understanding of him after reading this.

Bettelheim Freud and Mans Soul

"Where do I start with [actual thought] so I can read [trendy charlatan]" is such a cancerous attitude

>>16719022
Here’s my list. I’ve done a bunch of study in psychoanalysis:
Freud:
Read the second half of the interpretation of dreams
Read the rat man case
Read from new introductory lectures vol 2; revision of the theory of dreams, the dissection if the psychical personality.
Three essays in the theory of human sexuality
Lacan seminars
Freuds papers on technique
The ego in freuds theory and in the technique of psychoanalysis
From ecrits:
The mirror stage as formative of the function of the I as revealed in psychoanalytic experience
The function of speech and language in psychoanalysis.

Of course for Lacan you gotta read Jakobson, de Saussure, and Levi-Strauss as well.
The lacanian subject by Bruce fink is a really valuable secondary reference.
If you’re interested in applying psychoanalysis to political/social questions, then read Hobbes, and notice how he’s theory of the subject is lacking, then read freud’s group psychology, and chapters 5-7 of civilisation and it’s discontents. That will give you enough to get into Althusser and his lacanian bent.
There’s more I could ad, but I figure that’s enough.

>>16721925
Trendy charlatan or not from courtrooms to mainstream media this dude's having lived has exerted an enormous influence (mostly negative, I feel) on the way life's lived now.

>>16721925
You mean understanding the development of a discourse? You’re a nuffy.

>>16722171
Lacan is a footnote in psychoanalytic discourse and there are at least a dozen writers more significant than him.

>>16722192
I don’t give a shit about Lacan. But the comment I was responding to said something so dumb.