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>unmoved mover
>nothing can't come out of nothing
Because?

>> No.16706772
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16706772

if it didn't it wouldn't

>> No.16706776

What are you actually asking?

>> No.16706783

>>16706720
>because
Is anything in the observable universe caused by nothing? If you’re standing behind a fence and you see a ball thrown from behind it but not the thrower, do you assume nothing threw it?

>> No.16706829

>>16706720
Because nothing is a human created concept, it doesn't actually exist.

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16707355

Nothing doesn’t exist, especially in a materialist framework.

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>>16706720
If God created the universe, who or what created God? Why do theists believe in infinite regresses or things being uncaused when it comes to God?

>> No.16707419

Coming out is something, something coming out of nothing is already at least three unique things.
Since to be is to stand out, be distinct, what can the first be contrasted with? Especially when you say out of nothing, it makes a something out of nothing, but nothing isn't something.

>> No.16707434

>>16707381
The thing that is above that A created B created C, is God, because only God can stand outside of that logic. Nothing else can, because if other things randomly could, then they would happen more than just once.

>> No.16707439

peepeepoopoo: the thread

>> No.16707554

>>16706772
fpbp

>> No.16707579

>>16706783
wtf i love Jesus now

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>>16706720
It would be literally magic if something came out of nothing.

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>>16707583
It would be magic if something DIDN'T come out of nothing

>> No.16708581

>>16707381
Do you think that God could not create itself?

>> No.16708757

>Aristotle
It's necessary to explain other stuff, so this HAS to be the way it is.

>Aquinas
The Bible said so. The Bible can't be wrong, because the Bible said so.

>Averroes (Kalam Cosomological Argument)
The Quran said so, and this entire exercise is demonstrating that Reason can agree eith divine revelation.

It's a defense of a foregone conclusion, anon.