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16704634 No.16704634 [Reply] [Original]

what does /lit/ think about italian literature?

>> No.16704641
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>> No.16704642

>>16704634
Moravia is a hack and this is reaffirmed by the French hack, Godard, turning his mediocre writings into flicks

>> No.16704652

>trying to pass a bunch of namecalling and buzzwords as criticsm
Yikes.
Let me guess. Angry Italian? That insufferable and dull polyglot Brazilian?

>> No.16704670

>>16704634
I like Dino Buzzati and Roberto Calasso.
Have you got some similar recommendations?

>> No.16704679

>>16704652
Cope, faggot. Read better books than entrylevel mediocrity

>> No.16704728

>>16704670
I've read Pavese, Moravia, Ferrante, Calvino, recommend all of them. don't know Buzzati or Calasso

>> No.16704738

>>16704679
>more buzzwords
Anon, I...

>> No.16704753

>>16704634
It is curious to think that it was the most influential literature in the West for a few hundred years. Petrarch's influence initiated the literary Renaissance in many countries, and Shakespeare himself - like Camões, Ronsard, Luis de León - is in a way a child of Petrarch.
Since then, however, its influence has considerably waned, like the influence of Italy in general. This is highly lamentable.

What is even more curious is to consider how Western literature would have developed if, instead of Petrarch, Dante had been taken as the universal model. But here we enter the realm of mere speculation.

>>16704652
>That insufferable and dull polyglot Brazilian?

No, that was not me. I haven't read Moravia yet, though I enjoyed Godard's film.
Had it been me, I would have justified my statements with arguments that you would ignore.

>> No.16704771

>>16704753
>I would have justified my statements with arguments that you would ignore.
That anon is an immense faggot who doesn’t even deserve “argumentation” on a Taiwanese anti-China shitposting board. Yet the dullard manufactures a chimerical high ground when anyone uses “buzzwords” as a coping mechanism for his shit taste.

>> No.16704778

I read a couple stuff, Dante, Svevo, Buzzati, Foscolo, Levi, etc. I really felt like I should've read them in original Italian tho...

>> No.16704797

>>16704771
Indeed. I agree. He is probably the George Eliot fan I was talking to the other day.

>> No.16704814

>>16704778
Not necessarily the novelists (although it is highly recommended), but poetry should definitely be read in the original if you can.

I recommend Ungaretti as a good starting point. His poems are short and employ a simple vocabulary.

>> No.16704821

>>16704728
The Tartar Steppe is one of the most depressing and maddening books I’ve read.Dino Buzzati had existential dread to write that

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why does /lit/ hate her? there's no more accomplished writer in the 21st century (with the arguable exception of knausgaard).
I know it's not an anti-feminine issue because knausgaard is also ignored here. is it something against the post-post-modernism style?

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>>16704641
What would the Italian word for coomer be? "Sborrone"?

>> No.16706272

>>16704892
You haven't read enough 21st century authors to know that.

I've read parts of Knausgaard's books and, I am sorry to say, he is not a great writer. He is a great memorialist, in the tradition perhaps of Casanova, Samuel Pepys, Cellini, but he is not a great writer.
If you wish to read a great living Norwegian writer, read Jon Fosse. He's the real deal.

>> No.16707595

>>16706272
fosse is a crap bernhard clone. nothing new or noteworthy with that hack of a hack.