/lit/ - Literature

>>16694519
Rei? you're still alive? have you been getting my letters?

Good. All the good poets are dead and you wanna be shit ass zoomers need to stop trying to write poetry.

Poetry is sleeping at this time.

>>16694425
I demand to know the name of this mutt.

>>16694617
>Rei?

YES.


>you're still alive?

YES.


>have you been getting my letters?

NO.

>>16694433
Dua Lipa

>Can you even name an influential poet today that doesn't represent the simplification of the english language?
>Unironically believing poetry consist in pure rethorics
>Unironically believing poetry in english is the only relevant one
>Unironically believing that just because you don't know any contemporary good poet the shit is dead

Yeah, we get it, anon. You're a big pseud.

>>16694425
Rap

>>16694425


?

1. THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE HAS NEVER BEEN CHARACTERIZED FOR ITS POETICAL WORKS, NOR BY THE EXCELLENCE OF ITS LITERATURE IN GENERAL.

2. YES, POETRY, AS AN ART, IS DECADENT BECAUSE THE WORLD'S DEGENERATION IS IN ITS LATTER PHASES, BUT TO INFER THE DECADENCE OF POETRY, AS AN ART, FROM THE DECADENCE OF POETRY IN ENGLISH, CONSTITUTES A FALLACIOUS ACT.

3. POETRY IS NOT DEAD, BUT, RATHER, THE LIVING DEAD CANNOT COMPOSE POETRY.

>>16694519
Oh my god this is even a shittier take that OP's

>>16694425
Recorded music makes pure poetry obsolete. If you want to write poems just become a song writer.

>>16694425
>Is poetry dead?
>Don't show up
>Don't come out
>Don't start caring about me now.
kino

>>16694425
>>16694445
Please, let's keep /lit/ an Albanian free board

>>16694756
No.

If a man cannot post but a thot,
you can be sure his brain has rot.
Ruled by his cock,
deserving of mock,
amongst garbage he'll find his lot.

>>16694638
you're still jerking into that old crusted neuromancer copy?

>>16694425
>Can you even name an influential poet today that doesn't represent the simplification of the english language? I doubt it. Poetry is long gone.
Ilja Leonard Pfeijffer?

>>16694519
Possibly the worst tripfag on this website

>>16694425
People don't have thought's or feeling which require expression anymore. It's all homogenous enough that communication can be strictly recreational

A place like this still exists because a few of us, for some reason or another, seem to have a deep need to express meanings.

>>16694425
>a past time
oh come on now

>>16695934
Don't hurt your back sucking your own dick, buddy

>>16694425
Stop ruining /lit/ with coomer posts. That said, poetry is not dead but in a rut. All of society is in an artistic rut, the last great cultural revolution was in the 60s and it's been downhill from there.
>tfw no modern day Eliot

>>16696256
>Stop ruining /lit/ with coomer posts.
/thread.

Listen to St. Alphonsus's sermons. I don't even believe in God and find them helpful. Particularly on the evil effects of bad habits and on impurity.

>>16696269
I concur, I am no believer either but lust is a grave sin.

>>16696256
>Stop posting beautiful women
>Poetry is in a rut

>>16696269
>>16696274
You people don’t belong here. This isn’t a Christian board.
>I am not a believer
And yet you believe in grave sins. Is lying a sin for you?

>>16696277
>>16696290
>using semi-nude images to attract posters
>must be Christian to think certain things are wrong
>must be Christian to think excessive sex and lust are wrong
What the fuck are you on?

>>16696290
I am amoral. I will lie, cheat and steal to get ahead. Lust does not serve my interests. That's how I get wind up doing nothing other than play with myself and going after women instead of doing something useful. And it isn't just the act. Focus, reason and everything suffers for days after orgasm. It causes noticable reduction in intellectual interests or pursuits. It is a distraction and the more you feed it, the worse it gets.

>>16696303
You must be/are christian influenced to believe in sin and become this uncomfortable with beauty and sexuality

>>16696320
>beauty and sexuality
Opposed to one another. Sexual arousal suppresses neurotransmission in the very region associated with beauty.

>>16696320
No you fucking don't, you dense rock.
>>16696323
This

>>16696310
>First came the christ posters, and we said nothing because they came bearing a book
>Then came the “coomer” memers
>Then came the anti-coomers
They’re all the same people actually. You’ve ruined my board

>>16696323
>>16696332
Sick in the head

>>16696338
You're sick in the head because you're literally coping with a maladaptive habituation of your reproductive system that doesn't do shit other than provide fleeting hits of pleasure.

>>16696345
>Things in life are pleasurable
>But that’s bad!

It's probably never coming back simply because of where technology is at. Poetry developed in a time when it made sense to memorize and recite poetry out loud for entertainment or personal edification. Over the past 100 years we have the development of all this new media to where the things people typically look to for the same experience of art can be immersive audiovisual experiences. I mean you can try and revive poetry or the novel or whatever, but the fact is, it's sort of like trying to revive ceramics as an artform. You can spend your life doing it and maybe you'll get a residency from some university and have your shit put in a musician, but nobody really cares on the broader scale of society like they would have 100 years ago, because now we have movies and shit.

>>16696363
>>Things in life are pleasurable
>>But that’s bad!
What? By your logic,
>reading is pleasurable
>"but you can't like reading, it's pleasure!"

>>16696363
>doesn't serve any end other than pleasure
>has side effects
>leads to habituation and loss of control
>any random stimuli can intrude and place you in a totally different state of mind
>the pleasure is transitory, doesn't satisfy, can masturbate 6 times in a day and won't feel any happier for it.
I've copulated with more beautiful women than you ever will and have watched ultra high quality porn in 4k and VR. It does absolutely nothing. It is a waste and consumes you the more you use it. I've used stimulants, opiates, smoked cigarettes and none if it compares at all to how this habit intrudes all facets of life. It makes you mediocre like everyone else. Nothing good comes of it. Biggest waste of time and effort my entire life.

>>16694890
me in the back

>>16694456
>Yeah, we get it, anon. You're a big pseud.
retarded tier nitpicking, poetry is clearly exactly as dead as OP makes out

>>16694519
>POETRY IS NOT DEAD, BUT, RATHER, THE LIVING DEAD CANNOT COMPOSE POETRY
annoying tripfag account but here, at least, we have a good line

Poetry, as a cultural object, has been dead for centuries now. Romantics and modernists were just LARPing. You either sing or screech poetry in the agora, or you don't. Written poetry is a disaster.

>>16694425
All the people who would be writing shitty poetry a century or two ago are writing shitty songs now

>>16696660
Best post in thread.

What do you think of my poem fellow il/lit/erates? :)

Friday afternoon

She sang her heart out
It slipped up through her esophagus like a bar of soap
And bounced along the floor, 134 over 80
A correctional nurse reported the value on a crisp white sheet
As the janitor mopped up the crimson splatters,
whistling along to her song.
It was almost weekend

>>16697231
>>16696660
pig dog masturbator/copulator cope.

>>16696473
"hey mami, wanna copulate?"

Largely displaced by the advent of lyrical music in the form of mass produced recordings

>>16696473
>It makes you mediocre like everyone else
Pretty sure that even the great men that you idolize would fuck. Bach had like15 kids, for instance.

>>16697256
I have never appreciated non-rhyming poetry before. Thanks Anon

>>16694445
Small tattoos are the mark of a coward.

>>16697383
low IQ

>>16694519
Staggeringly dumb post. I need to lay down.

>>16697486
That's why sexual images do to people. Makes them dumb and slow.

>>16697256
Dis gud poem

>>16696338
>loses argument
>rages and stops replying
pottery

>>16697493
Wasn't participating in your little discussion of sexual imagery. All that stored up semen must be affecting your vision.

ALBANIAN

>>16697448
>>16697499
Thank you frens :)
Also appreciate criticism

>>16696319
Kind looks like zyzz here

What do u anons think of me poem?

And after all you are still here,
Because the room is silent and out the window the motors are a buzzing,
and voices muffled by the headphones that u wear,
sit, stand up, sit and sip,
that closed book by ur bed
And you are still here.

>>16695565
Thanks for the rec.

>>16697476
The nazis did write them pretty small.

>>16697506
>loses argument
>repeats rage post
Your catholic pamphlets on masturbation have no place in /lit/, or /sci/, and would be just as unwelcome in /x/, the only place they fit.

>>16697673
Ok. Maybe consider changing the 134 over 80 line. Because when you read it out loud your brain tries to rhyme 'one-thirty-four' with 'bounced along the floor' and it kinda messes it up ad introduces a rhyming pattern when there isn't one. Unless there is a reason for 134, probs pick another number. Besides this, esophagus felt like a weird word to use, but I understand it being there to maintain medical undertones, just not sure that it fits with the pseudo-fantastical feel of the poem.

>>16697849
Good comments. Thanks fren

>>16697256
Surprisingly not bad, though I am confused as to what happened.

>>16697256
Surprisingly good. I am admittedly confused as to what happened exactly, but i am a poetry brainlet.

Poetry is like any other art form. If you aren't introduced to it and taught how to appreciate it at a young age, then you probably never will.

The only poetry we learned at school in a 100% white norf England small town school was diverse shit from African poets about how raycis English people were to poor migrants, so it's little fucking wonder the genre is dead.

All it takes it somebody with some genuine enthusiasm to sit down with well behaved kids, read and discuss some relatable poetry, then they would be convinced that poetry is worth reading and listening to.

>>16696320
you are a complete retard this is like saying if you don't eat at mcdonalds twice a day you are a health nut who can't enjoy food.

>>16698073
Oh, I should have said religious instead of christian. The poor dears.
Can you fucking talk about poetry now? People are trying to have a thread here.

>>16698123
>Spend entire thread arguing about bullshit
>get btfod
>cry about people being offtopic

I do think that recorded music has largely superseded the need for poetry, although the depressing thing is that I am aware writing poetry in the past was a very common pastime, especially I am from Australia, so I know the writing of what was called "bush poetry" was extremely popular during early settler times.
For the most part I don't really care about songs replacing poems, but the depressing part is it has become a much more passive activity, since very few people write music compared to the numbers of people who wrote poetry at various times.

>>16694890
Are they small or the wine large?

>>16698041
The best way to start kids on appreciating poetry and literature in general nowadays is to read to them every single night.
Specifically for poetry, read them Shel Silverstein

>>16698123
I dont believe in God and I'm anti sexual

>>16694425
I dont think so. And I would try to refute this claim by telling you that there are interesting things happening in contemporary poetry right now but they certainly dont fit the prescribed formula for conventional poetry, which (in America at least) has always been the objective. I think if you broadened your definition of poetry from "metered, elevated language written as lines" to "different uses of language that utilizes the page" youd find more enjoyment in contemporary stuff

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>>16697231
>>16697808
>>16698123
Coming back to this thread to say fuck you for not even reading my post. You read the first sentence and then disregarded the rest. You are what is wrong with /lit/, you are one of many illiterate retards who read the first sentence of a book and consider yourselves experts. You are the type of person to twist words to mean something they were not meant to. You are but one of many cancers to be excised from this website. But perhaps your tangents and tirades will be glorious in the eyes of other faggots, and worthy in the eyes of the useless jannies. Begone.

>>16699000
Off topic. Delete yourself, spongeboy

>>16699019
Shut the fuck up, wackjob. I made the post about poetry being in a rut, as well as all culture at present. Do not tell me what is and is not offtopic, you ass of asses.

>>16699000
Your fault for jezebel posting. It attracts the flys.

>>16698476
>there are interesting things happening in contemporary poetry right now
Such as?