/lit/ - Literature

>>16682511
No.

No. Power from below doesn't work. Common people can't be trusted to make decisions for society as a whole.

>>16682511
I hope you voted straight ticket Liberal anon. Trudeau is such a hottie, isn't he?

Anyway I don't and large chunks of Canada should be thrown into the lumberjack gulags.

>>16682517
Then might is right?

>>16682511
Yes, but it should be bite sized.

>>16682523

>>16682511
No I'm a citizen of two large countries that have been corrupt for decades and will will continue to be corrupt and potentially collapse in the next few decades. Beyond a certain point of corruption I just feel that having a dictator/king who is willing to kill other elite that act too greedy is just more efficient.

>>16682523
Only if that might is born from wisdom and a deep connection with the Spirit, not mere brute force.

That's what separates the God-kings from the conquerors.

>>16682511
Grug believe some men lion and some men antelope and some men hyena. Democracy give all these men a say, but 2 of 3 of these men are weak. Thus they make Grug weak, even though Grug can lift big rocks. Now black antelope and long nose hyena vote for Grug to lift big rocks for them.

>>16682542
>Only if that might is born from wisdom and a deep connection with the Spirit
Who decides that?

>>16682523
NO. Read the Republic and the Statesman. That isn't what Plato was saying either.

>>16682530
Bite sized?

>>16682544
What should Grug do about it?

>>16682523
Plato said leaders should do it for free without any monetary incentive or benefit. Understand? It is about the nature of the soul not the strongest.

>>16682511
Democracy is fake and gay.

>>16682590

>>16682582
Grug wonder often. Maybe Grug not what it mean to be strong anymore. Maybe world no longer need strong men of yesterday. Maybe Grug cling to idea of personal strength, while eschewing group strength.
In the end, all Grug can do is lift big rock. Whether for himself or others, whether forced or not.

>>16682590
How does one rise to a position of leadership without being strong?

>>16682511
Yeah, democracy is the safest way to avoid revolution.
Read "the undiscovered self " for further informations.

>>16682625
Maybe Grug is capable of more than lifting big rock.

>>16682628
Read Republic, Gorgias, Statesman and the Laws. I am not obligated to spoonfeed you Plato's political philosophy.

>>16682511
Nah bro, read Aristotle.

>>16682511
The ideal government structure is a populist-elected, life-term triumvirate.
> say goodbye to Congressional deadlock
> say goodbye to massive, bloated circles of parasitic elite
> enough parties for game theory to take hold
> populist veto power
> will there still be lobbying and corruption
Yes, but once you have two other geniuses/resource reserves with you the scale will diminish immensely

>>16682511
Democracy is decreased time preference at the level of politics. This leads to explicit corruption in developing countries and the absence of long term goals in developed countries. It also veils power; not only at the governmental level (America is not a democracy), but at the institutional level as well. Institutions dictate and manufacture views on real issues, but everyone is focused on the "power" of the government instead.
There is a reason China and Russia are not democracies.

>>16682769
A slip up there. I meant increased time preference.

>>16682677
Lol masterful deflection.

>>16682511
nope democracy doesn't exist - democratic competition is just sponsored conflict for the purpose of power centralisation through the levelling of the social order and the obscuring of where real power lies
>>16682523
might is not "right" but rather "might makes"

>>16682511
Yes, but not in its current form, and mostly for pragmatic reasons. Something along the lines of >>16682633

>>16682511
Yes, but this isn't literature.

nigga i just want to be left alone honestly in the woods, simple life away from people

>>16682611
Yeah for the quote, but you can't seriously see trump as a philosopher-king can you?
>>16682511
As the book says: the wise should rule, reluctantly.

That book is satire