/lit/ - Literature

>>16681482
This is bad... Stop posting.

>>16681482
I don't trust the Irish

>>16681482
Is it true he liked to LARP as a pagan occultist even in the hardcore Catholic days of Ireland?

https://voca.ro/1kn4AHdO6Ytq

>>16681482
that's a girthy ascot there

does this cunt have a bow around his neck? what a fucking gaylord

>>16681513
He was an Anglican christian, being an occultist doesn’t at all equate to paganism - the order of the golden dawn was explicitly Christian

The idea of a piss-drunk Aleister Crowley going commando in a kilt and waving a sword in Yeats’ face while “casting spells”— and then getting knocked on his ass and rolling down the stairs just makes me like him even more.

>>16681546
Beautiful

>>16681792
the HERMETIC order of the golden dawn is not christian. the founders were all already rosicrucians, they founded GD for NON-CHRISTIANS to join

>>16682039
>the HERMETIC order of the golden dawn is not christian. the founders were all already rosicrucians, they founded GD for NON-CHRISTIANS to join
It’s still predominantly Christian, most of the members were Christian anyway

>>16682046
it was explicitly not christian and the focus was explicitly on things that were not christian (because rosicrucian orders already existed for that purpose). thats why its the "hermetic" order and thats why they were all so obsessed with kabbalah

>>16682065
>kabbalah
You do realise the reason why they specifically delved in Kabbalah is because of their faith in Christianity and the abrahamic God?

>>16682221
The Kabbalah and golden dawn/etc are all at odds with the "abrahamic" God and what He prescribes. They're heresies

>>16682239
Oh, so you’re that type of guy....

Your opinion is irrelevant, the point is that the Golden Dawn is an expression of Christian belief no matter how much you reee against it.

we need more irish and scottish authors discussed on this board

>>16682259
It's as Christian as Satanism, then. Just a product of an idea, an addition to or perversion of a correct practice

>>16682275
Ok retard

>>16682275
It's called 'Theurgy', not satanism. Jesus practiced it. Plato did also

>>16682259
that poster isnt me. an organization set up for non Christians to join that is designated "hermetic" is clearly not an expression of christian belief.
>>16682221
then why were they interested in astrology, alchemy, tarot?

>>16682854
retard

>>16681482
Crowley is the superior poet.

Thrill with lissome lust of the light,
O man! My man!
Come careering out of the night
Of Pan! Io Pan!
Io Pan! Io Pan! Come over the sea
From Sicily and from Arcady!
Roaming as Bacchus, with fauns and pards
And nymphs and satyrs for thy guards,
On a milk-white ass, come over the sea
To me, to me!
Come with Apollo in bridal dress
(Shepherdess and pythoness)
Come with Artemis, silken shod,
And wash thy white thigh, beautiful god,
In the moon of the woods, on the marble mount,
The dimpled dawn of the amber fount!
Dip the purple of passionate prayer
In the crimson shrine, the scarlet snare,
The soul that startles in eyes of blue
To watch thy wantonness weeping through
The tangled grove, the gnarled bole
Of the living tree that is spirit and soul
And body and brain — come over the sea,
(Io Pan! Io Pan!)
Devil or god, to me, to me,
My man! my man!
Come with trumpets sounding shrill
Over the hill!
Come with drums low muttering
From the spring!
Come with flute and come with pipe!
Am I not ripe?
I, who wait and writhe and wrestle
With air that hath no boughs to nestle
My body, weary of empty clasp,
Strong as a lion and sharp as an asp —
Come, O come!
I am numb
With the lonely lust of devildom.
Thrust the sword through the galling fetter,
All-devourer, all-begetter;
Give me the sign of the Open Eye,
And the token erect of thorny thigh,
And the word of madness and mystery,
O Pan! Io Pan!
Io Pan! Io Pan Pan! Pan Pan! Pan,
I am a man:
Do as thou wilt, as a great god can,
O Pan! Io Pan!
Io Pan! Io Pan Pan! I am awake
In the grip of the snake.
The eagle slashes with beak and claw;
The gods withdraw:
The great beasts come. Io Pan! I am borne
To death on the horn
Of the Unicorn.
I am Pan! Io Pan! Io Pan Pan! Pan!
I am thy mate, I am thy man,
Goat of thy flock, I am gold, I am god,
Flesh to thy bone, flower to thy rod.
With hoofs of steel I race on the rocks
Through solstice stubborn to equinox.
And I rave; and I rape and I rip and I rend
Everlasting, world without end,
Mannikin, maiden, Maenad, man,
In the might of Pan.
Io Pan! Io Pan Pan! Pan! Io Pan!

God I hate Noah Smith.

>>16683793
Too bad he ate the poo poo.

>>16683845
He did that to prove he was indifferent to material conditions.

>>16683793
Does Crowley have a proper anthology of poetry to read, or does he just have a handful of good ones scattered throughout his various books?

>>16683888
Probably the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

>>16683793
>Swinburne but even worse
No thank you

>>16683792
Ah yes ad hom, when you have no arguments

>>16683965
'This' said he, 'like all firm perswasions, is come to pass; for all nations believe the jews' code and worship the jews' god, and what greater subjection can be?'
I heard this with some wonder, & must confess my own conviction. After dinner I ask'd Isaiah to favour the world with his lost works; he said none of equal value was lost. Ezekiel said the same of his.
I also asked Isaiah what made him go naked and barefoot three years? he answer'd, 'the same that made our friend Diogenes the Grecian.'
I then asked Ezekiel why he eat dung, & lay so long on his right & left side? he answer'd, 'the desire of raising other men into a perception of the infinite; this the North American tribes practise, & is he honest who resists his genius or conscience. only for the sake of present ease or gratification?'

>>16683938
There's the Collected Works of Aleister Crowley, which he edited and released himself, but that was early-ish in his life, so it doesn't contain all of his writings (such as his most famous poem, Hymn to Pan, which is written above.)

>>16684149
Swinburne was a major influence on Crowley. Crowley even included him on the list of Gnostic Saints that is read during his Gnostic Mass.

>>16684183
this is a sickness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w

>>16684183
>retarded faggot savages and retarded faggot boy-loving greeks ate their shit, poisoned themselves, and began hallucinating
>gotta eat shit to raise my levels, bro

Lmao, I swear to god, occultists are so retarded. Demons are literally shitposting in the astral plane over how retarded humans are.
>I just got some dumb faggot to pour oil in a cup for me
>I literally turned some guy into a faggot, told him the key to kundalini raising was in his asshole
>yeah well I made some retard eat his own shit, lmao straight up told that nigga it's the next step in evolution

>>16683793
>Thrill with lissome lust of the light,
Stopped here. No thanks on that one, lad.

lOvE iS tHe LaW, lOvE uNdEr wIlL
Now eat my semen menstrual blood cookie, you fucking loser.

>>16684354
Actually, it's a semen *or* menstrual blood cookie. It's one or the other, not both. And they're called cakes of light. It should also be noted that the semen or menstrual blood isn't added into the cookies directly, they're burned and the ash is added.

>>16684368
Yeah, I know you fucking mongrel. And yes, you can, depending on what who's the magus of that respective O.T.O lodge, mix those fluids together.

I don't like this new trend of impressionable dweebs getting into the occult just for appearances. Wow! Such a huge intellect! How can you remember what all those sigils are? Whoa, tell me all about the various Sefirotic spheres and who inhabits them. I'm so impressed with how mystical you are. It's really brave that you're developing yourself spiritually. I mean, it's not like you're merely trying to copy the higher echelons of society, the ones you see in popular media with their one-eyed symbolism and Masonic drawing boards... no, it could never be a reason so petty and ego-centric as that, that you want to copy famous and powerful people, oh no, it's that you're a real go-getter with an innocent thirst for knowledge. I know occult work, depending on the entity, demands a varying level of secrecy, but it's cool that you're telling everyone everything you know, and that you post photos of your Tarot deck and alter on social media... I'm so impressed with your beautiful mind. What a shaman!

>>16682239
>The Kabbalah and golden dawn/etc are all at odds with the "abrahamic" God and what He prescribes.
lol. The Old Testament itself is a Kabbalistic document that's been filtering Jews and Gentiles alike since it's creation. The Zohar literally contains a Kabbalistic explication of the Pentateuch!

Some of you just shouldn't speak.

>>16684427
I don't like it either but it's just part of the times. We're going through another occult revival similar to the past century. The genuine seekers will get where they need to go, but the others will get filtered out. Hopefully by their own disinterest than insanity or death.

>>16682264
Why?

>>16684296

There is no way /lit/ is this retarded

>>16684762
You're coping with cauistry over being a filthy degenerate. You have no point. You are a follower. I hope you get HIV.

>>16684770
That is the literal meaning of it, I'm afraid: To repel against conformism. I thought anarchism and a leverage of consciousness was the spirit of this website but I see that there are hardly any good men left

>>16684765
Just a bunch of LARPers taking the piss

To will, to dare, and to keep silent, or you will sound like an insufferable faggot.

To be a magician is to toe the line between retarded and more retarded.

>>16684427
I don't like this new trend of impressionable dweebs getting into Christianity just for appearances. Wow! Such a huge intellect! How can you remember who all those prophets are? Whoa, tell me all about the various psalms and proverbs and which parts of the Bible proved the other parts of the Bible that proved Christ’s divinity! I'm so impressed with how pious you are. It's really brave that you're developing yourself spiritually. I mean, it's not like you're merely trying to copy the higher echelons of society, the ones you see in popular media with their pompous humility and phoney concern for “traditional values” they never live up to because it’s all a marketing ploy to manipulate the uneducated, it could never be a reason so petty and ego-centric as that, that you want to copy famous and powerful people, oh no, it's that you're a real go-getter with an innocent desire for bettering the world. I know theological study, depending on the dedication of the adherent, demands varying levels of cloistering, but it's cool that you're telling everyone everything you know, and that you post photos of your bibles, crucifixes and stacks of unread theology books on social media... I'm so impressed with your beautiful soul. What an evangelist!

>>16684798
>>16685671
Literal cringe
Imagine being a fucking pagan larper in 2020
Embarrassing desu

>>16684280
Damn I'm good. Literally detected the influence in the 10 lines I read.

>>16681482
If you put a bandana on him and gave him a bit of stubble he'd be a passable DFW.

>>16686881
Blake was 100% Christian though

>>16683793
>And I rave; and I rape and I rip and I rend
>Everlasting, world without end,
>Mannikin, maiden, Maenad, man,
>In the might of Pan.
>Io Pan! Io Pan Pan! Pan! Io Pan!
metal af

>>16685526
Yes, that was directed to the dogmatists btw