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Just started this podcast and I'm almost through the pre-socratics. I've been learning a good bit and I like how the host doesn't editorialize or use a bunch of gimmicks when talking about the philosophers. It's almost impossible to find podcasts without annoying hosts.
Anyway, does anyone know any other podcasts that go a bit deeper into philosophers? This one is really good for getting introductions to some people I haven't read, and I'm gonna use it to read more from the ones that interest me. But its always good with philosophy to be able to talk about it or at least hear others discuss it.

>> No.16663275

Read primary texts

>> No.16663290

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9GwT4_YRZdBf9nIUHs0zjrnUVl-KBNSM

>> No.16663291

>>16663259
Maybe you should read some books if you want to go deeper. Why does everything need to be in the form of parasocial entertainment?

>> No.16663293

Read a book, nigger.

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>>16663259
>it's another epistemological example with Buster Keaton and Hiawatha the giraffe.
I listened to the first 100 episodes in one week and now I no longer like giraffes

>> No.16663344

Anybody know which Kauffman anthology he's having them read from?

>> No.16663350

>>16663291
>Why does everything need to be in the form of parasocial entertainment?

Good question but there is something to be said for consuming lots of decent junk as raw material for thought. Same logic as giving kids books, any books, so long as you get them reading. Of course you want them to move on to better things, but the question is one of tweaking the progression so that they are always getting the right balance of fun and challenge, not just forcing them to read the best books right away.

In olden days this junk/raw material would be provided by comrades and fellow enthusiasts, in school or simply among other educated elites or semi-elites. In 1900 you could rely on your peers, at least if you were the kind of person who concerns himself with reading the latest literature in your youth, to also be concerned with reading that literature. If you are a mediocrity, you would dabble and eventually drop it. But if you have more potential, you will use interactions with your peers both for a constant feed of new information, and as a spur to leave them behind (once their limitations begin to annoy you).

I don't see anything wrong with using youtube crap for this. Similarly I always recommend, with anything, reading five mediocre books on the topic rather than waiting forever to read one perfect book.

Plateauing is a real risk though. Don't be that fucking faggot who listens to podcasts for his entire life and has a little bit to say about everything but no actual depth. One way to avoid this is to challenge yourself to master something. Pick a thing in the sphere you are interested in, any thing really, and master it. Cut your teeth on something, use it as a base for further expansion, but most importantly, learn how to learn. This is sadly something that has also been lost from today's culture.

>> No.16663402

>>16663259
>Anyway, does anyone know any other podcasts that go a bit deeper into philosophers?

Don't limit yourself to podcasts. The good stuff lies hidden in obscure recorded lectures.

>> No.16663425

>>16663291
I answered this in the OP. I can learn a little bit about the place of someone like, say, Anaximenes as a supplement to reading some Heraclitus and Parmenides. There isn't enough time in my life to read every philosopher. I also spend a lot of time in the car cuz of my current job and I would like to spend a lot of that time learning, which is why I was curious about podcasts that go more in depth.

>> No.16663439

>>16663402
That sounds like the type of thing I'm looking for. Do you find those on university websites or youtube or what? And how do you know what's good and what isn't?

>> No.16663441

>>16663402
Any recommendations?

>> No.16663447

>>16663259
I would say take History of Philosophy Podcast as an introduction to the primary texts and to go on to read some of those. For the presocratic fragments, you can read them here: https://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/app/index.htm

>> No.16663476

>>16663402
redpilled

>> No.16663487

>>16663439
>>16663441

The landscape has shifted in recent years. Recordings used to be posted on the university websites, but this is now less common.

These days, your best bet is actually Youtube. Plug a favored scholar or philosopher into the search field. Narrow the results to 'Long (> 20 minutes)' and sort by date. You just might find some good stuff.

Take this lecture on “The Rationality of the Stoic God” for an example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by22vDFzzA0

This video can then be converted to MP3 through some online third party tool and sent to your phone for future listening.

>> No.16663520

>>16663487
dope, thanks for the rec anon

>> No.16663563

>>16663275
Not reading secondary texts is not a good demonstration of one's love of wisdom

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>>16663350
>no actual depth

>> No.16664039

>>16663259
Whats the curriculum of the casters? I could never follow any podcasts of the kind because i always felt the presenters werent knowledgeable enough of the subject.

>> No.16664060

>>16664039

Adamson's account is of the popularizing variety, but his creds are real as far as older philosophy goes.

https://lmu-munich.academia.edu/PeterAdamson/CurriculumVitae

>> No.16664217

>>16663290
nice these look good, thanks anon

>> No.16664552

Bertrand Russels History of Western Philosophy is alright and available everywhere as an audiobook

>> No.16666163

>>16664552
no

>> No.16666228

>>16663259
Peter Adamson is a prof at my uni and he is a major faggot.
When we had first semester general lectures every week one professor would give a lecture on his specific field to convey its importance to the first year students.
His is even on the university website still:
>Can anyone guess where I am from?
(He looks like a typical sandnigger)
Students: Uhh, Lebanon? Iran? UAE? Greece?
>No! Boston. *contemplative scornful pause*
>Here is a two Euro Coin. Anyone who guesses the msot influential medieval philosopher will get this
S: Thomas of Aquine! Ockahm! Avicenna! Augustine?
>No. If you had said a woman you would have been right.
> blah blah blah
>Oh did I tell you islam saved philosophy while you euroshits where in the dark ages? Yeah you wouldnt even know of aristotle
>Listen to faggot love in islam philosophy in my next year seminar and for the xth time here is my shilled podcast

I dont even care if the podcast is good, the guy is such a faggot it is unbearable. He is the only "american" we have at our uni but he sure is making all the effort to ruin the esteem american phil departments like to project these days.

>Thank god he is not the only ancient phil prof at the uni.

>> No.16666726

>>16663487
Thanks for the answer, anon. For whatever reason it never occurred to me to download them as mp3s. I’ve got a long drive ahead of me so looks like I’ve got my work cut out for me.

>> No.16666780

>>16663291
because it's easy and people can delude themselves into thinking they are being educated while driving or playing video games or doing any other mindless activity

>> No.16666795

>>16664552
literally any book but this

>> No.16667573

>>16666228
I've been wondering how he's viewed as an American there. I find Americans generally annoying but he had this woman on the pod I was listening to the other day and she was this posh sounding English woman and I realized how exponentially more annoying they are. Americans in philosophy departments actually tend to be pretty chill