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I watched some of the charts of top books and found out just a few Spanish postmoderns and Don Quixote, any other books that come to your mind?

>> No.16655516

>>16655479
I like Latinamerican fiction around the ´boom´ period: Cortázar, Borges, Vargas Llosa, García Marquez, Fuentes, Rulfo, Monterroso, Cabrera Infante.
For more recent works I like Vila-Matas, Javier Marías, Bolaño.

>> No.16656479

>>16655479
The obscene bird of night by Donoso
Kiss of the spider woman by Puig
Three trapped tigers by Infante
Dom Casmurro by Machado de Assis
Gabriele, clove and cinnamon by Amado
Paradiso by Lima
On heroes and tombs by Sabato
The adventures and misadventures of Maqroll by Alvaro
Blindness by Saramago
Explosion in a cathedral by Carpentier

>> No.16657295

>>16656479
>Dom Casmurro
>Saramago
>Spanish
How retarded can one get?

>> No.16657324

>>16655479
Anyone read Obscene Bird of Night?I have been interested in it for a while but can’t find the English translation new.I might just get a used copy

>> No.16657336

>>16655479
/SpGT/ has some charts

>> No.16657642

>>16655479
The Savage Detectives
The Tunnel
Cortazar's short stories
El periquillo Sarniento
>>16657295
Saramago sometimes considered himself more Spanish than Portuguese I think

>> No.16658115

>>16657642
whatever he considered himself, he wrote in portuguese. And Machado de Assis was brazilian, and also wrote in portuguese

>> No.16658127

>>16655479
I just bought this book at a kiosk this afternoon on my way back home from college: looking forward to reading it.

>> No.16658203

I won't stop reccin Manuel Scorza's The Silent War

>> No.16658260

>>16655479
The Invention of Morel by Bioy Casares
Zama by Antonio Di Benedetto
On Heroes and Tombs by Ernesto Sabato

>> No.16659854

bumpe of destiny

>> No.16660293

>>16658127
Great one desu, I don't know why it is never discussed here

>> No.16660299

>>16657336
Great, I'll check them out

>> No.16660569

>>16658127
English or Spanish?

>> No.16660576

>>16655516
Borges predates the Boom.

>> No.16660620

>>16660576
Internationally, not by much. He was well known in Spain, Latin America and France but he became a lot more famous after 1961 when he received a prize. His English translations and US lectures almost coincide with the big breaks of Lorca, Cortazar and García Marquez.

>> No.16660815

>>16660620
Who gives a shit when he became famous in Burgerland. He started publishing in the 1920s. His most famous book was published in the 40s.

>> No.16660996

>>16660815
Okay, stay ignorant.

>> No.16661004

>>16660996
Says the faggot who thinks Borges is somehow a Boom author lmao

>> No.16661131

>>16661004
Fine. I mentioned some dates and details of how Borges was perceived abroad, how he came to travel to the US and Europe to give different conferences on several occasions, his first English translations. Did you know he gave a conference in Geneva, at UNESCO, during the mid 60s? Clearly, I'm more informed than you are, and regardless of whether you're pro Anglo, or not (like those brainwashed teenagers from the Spanish general who keep memeing and parroting that shithead Maestro), it's a nice bit of Borges trivia a Borges fan would at least appreciate, more so in the context of the Boom and how the world was beginning to appreciate Latin American literature.
At any rate, we've already established your reading comprehension is utter shit (since I argued his international fame came about a mere 6 or 7 years prior to the Boom proper (>>16660620
) and not that he was part of it).
Anything else you want to add, retrasado ignorante?

>> No.16661151

>>16661131
>all this faggotry
Cringe. Who gives a shit about when he was travelling abroad? Negrata de mierda. "B-but internationally he was famous until the 1960s!" La concha de tu hermana también.

>> No.16661196

>>16661151
>doesn't see a cause and effect relationship between a rise in fame and being invited to give conferences, lectures and classes in US and Europe
Ah, se ve que sos un modelito de subeducación latinoamericana. Read more.

>> No.16661206

Onetti and Levrero.

>> No.16661217

>>16661206
I'm looking to read Onetti, do you think that Tierra de Nadie is a good start?

>> No.16661221 [DELETED] 

>I like Latinamerican fiction around the ´boom´ period like Borges
>Borges, the guy who published books since the 1920s and his magnus opus in the 1940s is from the 'boom' period because he gave conferences to the yanks in the 1960s
okay, retard.

>> No.16661227

>>16661196
>I like Latinamerican fiction around the ´boom´ period like Borges
>Borges, the guy who published books since the 1920s and his magnus opus in the 1940s is from the 'boom' period because he gave conferences to the yanks in the 1960s
okay, retard.

>> No.16661236

>>16661217
To be honest, I discovered him recently (4 or 6 months ago) because of a collection of his short stories and I don't know anything about the novels.

>> No.16661271

>>16661227
Don't you know Geneva and London are not in the USA, you moron? Basic geography fucking escapes you? Lmao

Again, I observed how his rise to international fame (1961-onwards) happened a few years before the Boom from the late 60s.
His books had been around for decades and yet, after he won the Spanish Formentor Prize in 1961, he suddenly started getting international prizes, invitations, which became more frequent (due to obvious marketing reasons) after the Boom.
Stop being obtuse on purpose. I'm providing a link to how he relates to said Boom. I never claimed he was a part of it. That was your take because you're a retard who received a poor education.
I recommend working on your reading comprehension or the suicide alternative.

>> No.16661279

>>16661271
take your meds, schizo.

>> No.16661298

>>16661279
>posts rude dismissal
>is called an ignorant
>triggered
>misinterprets an inocuous observation
>l-lmao, what a schizo
Have sex. Grow up.

>> No.16661317

>>16660576
So does Rulfo and Cortazar (Bestiario is from the 50s). Most other writers didn't appear out of nowhere, like the Beats, the Naturalists, etc.

>> No.16661331

>>16661298
God, you're retarded. Borges' 1960s ouput is mediocre and hardly representative of him. He's not a writer from the boom period. Woud you say Pynchon is a writer from the 2010s? Doubt it. Writers are tied to the era where they wrote their best and most representative works. What fiction did Borges write in the 1960s? Only Crónicas de Bustos Domecq lmao yea, I'm sure that's what you're talking about.

>> No.16661338

>>16661317
Rulfo is not boom either. Cortázar is textbook boom. The boom was just a group of writers, some call it a "movement", others just marketing. Rulfo and Borges were not part of that.

>> No.16661358

>>16661331
It's worse than that. He's not saying that Borges was a writer from the Boom period because he wrote anything in the 60s, but rather that he was a writer from around the Boom period because that's when he became famous. Which is like saying:
>I generally like fiction from around the first half of the 20th century, like Herman Melville.

>> No.16661415

>>16661358
>I generally like fiction from around the first half of the 20th century, like Herman Melville.
Accurate comparison.

>> No.16661492

>>16661338
Yup, Borges in its own is more of a pioneer of some of postmodern characteristics that relate more to Pynchon or English posmos in general, not to the boom. Borges has his roots from Ultraism, which didn't define him, but is a sign of his interest in avant garde and experimentation, which was later reflected in Jardines or Artificios.
Rulfo, for me, is sui-generis. He is not magical realism nor "real maravilloso", he is an in-between on Spanish prose, who had influences from Faulkner & cubism. I don't usually understand why A Hundred Years of Solitude is praised a lot on this board while it is a mere copy of Pedro Páramo (and a bad one, lol).

>> No.16661497

>>16661492
Don't forget the hard dosis of surrealism on Pedro Páramo, which could be intepret as magical realism or mere fantasy.

>> No.16661799

>>16660576
Borges predated it because he was a reason for the boom

>> No.16662423

>>16661358
Good Lord. You faggots can't actually read. That's the root of the problem.
I never said any of those things. Borges WAS one of the Boom writers? No.
Borges WAS a writer from the around the Boom? No.
How many times will you misread shit? I merely described his rise to international fame starting during the early 60s. See >>16660620.
That has nothing to do with WHEN he wrote, WHEN he published. I never even addressed those things. I commented how some may perceive he's connected to the movement.
Wtf is wrong with you as well. You retards shouldn't have been allowed to finish high school if you can't parse something as simple as this or dissociate such simple ideas (magnus opus, international recognition).
>>16661331
You somehow think a book with a short story titled Ragnarok (Dreamtigers), one of Borges' own obsessions is not representative? Right. Have you even read La historia de Rosendo Juarez? During what years do you think he wrote Brodie's Report? Did you skip Historia Universal as well, you dumb monkey?
Let me spell it out for you btw. I'm NOT claiming writing 2 books during the 60s means he WAS a writer FROM the 60s.

>> No.16662795
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16662795

>>16662423
>I like Latinamerican fiction around the ´boom´ period: Cortázar, Borges
>Borges WAS a writer from the around the Boom? No.

>> No.16662924

>>16662795
I've no idea what you're implying because I'm not the guy asking for recommendations nor the one providing them.

>> No.16662972

>>16662924
I'm referring to the post here >>16655516 and the one here >>16662423, respectively.

>> No.16663186

>>16660569
Spanish.

>> No.16663203

>>16660293
I didn't even know of its existence until I saw it hanging there in that kiosk. I liked the title, because I have a good track record of enjoying books with a first and second name as their title, and then upon coming home I found out through Wikipedia how well regarded this book was by several prominent authors. It's even listed in an obviously biased Spanish list of "Best books written in Spanish in the 20th century", so I think I got a great book out of my 2.70€.

>> No.16663240

>>16663203
Hope you enjoy it, mate. Lower your expectations a bit, though. It helps.

>> No.16663282

>>16663240
I will; thanks.

>> No.16663299

I've been reading Poe's tales lately, and whenever he doesn't write horror he reminded me a lot of Borges. I knew that he had taken influence from Poe, but I got as close a feeling of familiarity as I could get.

>> No.16663320

>>16663299
IIRC one of Borges' favorite tales was Poe's The Gold-Bug.