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Where do I start with this guy?

>> No.16630679

>>16630673
Guenon and Evola

>> No.16630684

>>16630679
Done, which book of his is a good first read?

>> No.16630698
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>>16630684
You're not 'done'. Go and read them, faggot.

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>>16630684

>> No.16630755

>>16630698
>>16630706
I've read all of Evola's books (more than are on that outdated chart), and most of Guenon (save for his books on Freemasonry and Theosophy, and Miscellanea). Now either recommend a good starting point for Dugin or fuck off.

>> No.16630769

>>16630755
Fuck off? me? fuck you, you dumb cunt. You're a fucking nigger if you've read all that Evola and don't know how to arrive at Dugin. Go and hang you nigger.

>> No.16630782

>>16630769
>Fuck off? me? fuck you, you dumb cunt. You're a fucking nigger if you've read all that Evola and don't know how to arrive at Dugin. Go and hang you nigger.
Ah, a real intellectual. The guy has published many books and I'm probably going to read a few anyway, but I'm interested in hearing where others started and what they recommend, not in some imbecile rambling. Now fuck off.

>> No.16630783

>>16630673
Naos

>> No.16630811

>>16630782
>The guy has published many books
Imagine being this much of a dumb nigger.

>> No.16630814

>>16630673
The Fourth Political Theory.

>> No.16630829

>>16630811
t. retard
Thanks for your input, now fuck off.

>> No.16630857

Imagine wasting your time reading meme authors like evola.

>> No.16630904

quality thread you guys

>> No.16631302

>>16630857
Imagine calling an author a meme if you've never read a word of his work

>> No.16631314

>>16631302
>>16630829
Fuck you, you dumb nigger. Imagine not being able to decide what to read by yourself. Go and die.

>> No.16631324
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What did he mean by this?

>> No.16631337

>>16631314
You quoted two different people, retard. Why does your vagina get so dry about people asking for recommendations? Even if I had gotten no answers, I still would have picked a book by Dugin. But sometimes other people can have interesting takes. Just like with Evola, I wouldn't recommend someone to follow that chart.

>> No.16631340

>>16630673
>>16630679
>>16630684
Do not forget to read his debate with Olavo de Carvalho, where the brazilian philosopher teared a new anus in Dugin

>> No.16631351

>>16630814
Thanks
>>16631340
Will check this out. Is Upton's book on Dugin any good by the way?

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>>16630673
"Fourth Political Theory" and "Martin Heidegger: The Philosophy of Another Beginning"
Also check out Martin Millerman on youtube

>> No.16631384

>>16631324
redpill overdose

>> No.16631388

>>16631340
>Olavo de Carvalho
the flat earther that thinks pepsi is made using fetuses?

>> No.16631398

>>16631340
>Olavo de Carvalho
>philosopher

>> No.16631440

>>16631351
>Will check this out. Is Upton's book on Dugin any good by the way?
Dugins philosophy is a complex synthesis of the following elements: Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism, the geopolitics of Halford J. Mackinder and Karl Haushoffer, the Russian messianism of Aleksei Khomiakov, Nicolai Danilevski, Fiodor Dostoiévski and Vladimir Soloviev, Islam, the esoterism of René Guénon and Julius Evola, as well as the “conservative revolutionary” (protonazist) thinking of Moeller van den Bruck and Edgar Julius Jung.
If you want to understand Dugin I would recommend you start with those
Upton per se criticized the possibility of using perenialism to create a supra-religion, but he didnt know about the connections of the islamic elite with the globalist elite

>> No.16631465

>>16631351
by the way
the name of the book with the debate is "The USA and the New World Order: A Debate Between Alexandr Dugin and Olavo de Carvalho", but you can read it online
https://debateolavodugin.blogspot.com/2011/03/olavo-de-carvalho-introduction.html?m=1

>> No.16631489

>>16631465
Flat earther de Carvalho is not worth anyone's time

>> No.16631535

>>16631388
>the flat earther that thinks pepsi is made using fetuses?
He isnt a flat earther yet, pepsi was indeed being made using fetuses as that was part of the process
https://thenewamerican.com/pepsi-says-it-will-halt-use-of-aborted-fetal-cells-in-flavor-research/
Saying he said fetuses cells were being put in the product itself is a strawman the american media and the brazilian useful iduots used ti descredit his legitimate concern

>>16631398
Yes, he is indeed a philosopher stricto sensus, i recommend you read his book "aristotle in a new perspective" if you have the background to understand it

Only complete morons and ignorants dont recognize Olavo de Carvalho for the man for that he is (his enemies certainly did, hence why Rugin debated with Olavo), and instead shape their views on whatever the group told them to repeat like monkeys, much for the content of the leftist structure as that would show their mass defamation and reputation destruction schemes had had some effect on the gullible masses
In short youre too dumb to realize youre stupid

>> No.16631551

>>16631535
Imagine actually thinking de Carvalho has anything to say about Aristotle let alone any topic on philosophy. Go and spend more of your monkey money on your online master, you dumb nigger

>> No.16631559

>>16631379
>"Martin Heidegger: The Philosophy of Another Beginning"
Why this one? And thanks, will check it out.
>>16631440
>Dugins philosophy is a complex synthesis of the following elements: Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism, the geopolitics of Halford J. Mackinder and Karl Haushoffer, the Russian messianism of Aleksei Khomiakov, Nicolai Danilevski, Fiodor Dostoiévski and Vladimir Soloviev, Islam, the esoterism of René Guénon and Julius Evola, as well as the “conservative revolutionary” (protonazist) thinking of Moeller van den Bruck and Edgar Julius Jung.
I'm familiar with about half of those but I've decided I'm going to read Dugin next, I'll read up on the ones I'm not familiar with beforehand though. Thanks for the recommendations. What's your personal take on Dugin?
>Upton per se criticized the possibility of using perenialism to create a supra-religion, but he didnt know about the connections of the islamic elite with the globalist elite
Tell me more?

>> No.16631571

>>16630673
just learn russian and watch his lectures

>> No.16631617

>>16630673
Does anyone in Russia actually take him serious or is he just one of the many colorful lunatics that run around on russian tv?

>> No.16631628

>>16630698
>>16630769
Perhaps you should take your own advice.

>> No.16631651

>>16631617
>colorful lunatics that run around on russian tv
yes

>> No.16631692

>>16631617
He is both and he does it on purpose. He is very well read and he is a great specialist in Heidegger. His lectures and youtune shows are insightful and entertaining.

>> No.16631925

>>16631324
You wouldn't understand, read Evola and Guenon

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>>16631324
He's identifying events in the modern world with the cycle described in the Upanishads: this is the Kali Yuga, the Dark Age in which everything falls apart, and finally leads back to a new Golden Age, and so the cycle continues.

So it's rather like the early Christian authors identifying Torah prophecies with events in Jesus' life, or modern evangelicals interpreting modern events in terms of the Book of Revelations (e.g. 'Obama is the Antichrist', etc).

>> No.16632724

>>16630684
Well if you actually read Guénon and think he's similar to evola then definitely pick up dugin, you'll enjoy his works hahahaha

>> No.16632760

>>16632724
>hahahaha
back to redddit with you
But in all seriousness, Evola and Guenon are similar in some ways, and not in others. Same with Dugin. I don't need to agree with everything an author says to find them interesting.

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>>16631324
>hyperobject of OOO
I OoO thing on the iceberg chart of conspiracies some years ago, I need someone to explain it to me right now or give me some readings

>> No.16632826

>>16632802
found the Ooo, its tier 5 middle column