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“Yes I have free will; I have no choice but to have it.” - Christopher hitchens


"I think the materialist conception of history is valid". - Christopher Hitchens

>> No.16603809

>>16603787
>“Yes I have free will; I have no choice but to have it.”
what an absolute midwit

>> No.16603815

>>16603787
Materialist conception of history does not contradict free will

>> No.16603838

>>16603787
is coffee good for you?

>> No.16603840

Midwit pseud. His brother has the same limited intelligence too.

>> No.16604109

>>16603787
Jesus has /lit/ fallen so low that Hitchens is called a pseud now?

>> No.16604158

>>16603787
I have his book Arguably and there are quite a few great articles in there. There was a lot more to Hitchens than he's given credit for here.

>> No.16604200

>>16603787
>Yes I have free will; I have no choice but to have it.
wasn't that meant to be ironic?

>> No.16604268 [DELETED] 

>>16603787
>>16604200
No, it's just a meaningless fucking quip that he'd pull out whenever some religious person challenged him about free will. Hitchens had many of these pre-dug mental trenches which he'd jump in every time he was challenged on something he didn't know the answer to. For example, every time he was challenged on Humanism's inadequacy in providing an objective morality he'd simply retort, 'How dare you say that we can't be moral without a dictator watching over us!' This guy was an incredibly bad thinker, despite having good speaking skills.

>> No.16604291

>>16603787
And? They do not contradict each other.

>> No.16604293

>>16603809
Maybe watch people other than Edward Dutton and expand your vocabulary.

>> No.16604297

>>16604268
No, he was based and right. You're just an incel coomer.

>> No.16604299

>>16604293
>edward dutton
what are you rambling about retard

>> No.16604311

>>16604299
Sorry if I struck a nerve XD.

>> No.16604319

>>16603787
Compatibilism wins again

>> No.16604320

>>16604311
I literally have no idea who that is, and you're genuinely an idiot if you think that quote about free will means anything.

>> No.16604552

>>16604109
All the New Atheists are pseuds and you can't argue otherwise.

>> No.16604569

>>16604552
>All the spooks we schizophrenics don’t like are gone NOWWW

>> No.16604580

>>16604569
Butterfly, answer my question. Will you be my gf?

>> No.16604595

>>16604552
But they aren't and you can't argue otherwise.

>> No.16604598

>>16604552
Harris was always the biggest pseud and still is. Dawkins and Hitchens sometimes fell into pseud territory esp Dawkins, but I wouldn't really call either "pseuds". Dennett was the only actual philosopher and knows better. Eliminative Materialism is still retarded though but I wouldn't call it pseud territory.

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>>16604580

>> No.16604742

>>16604598
>Eliminative Materialism
This is where we remove brain and person is gone? It’s true tho

>> No.16604804

>>16604742
No Its a type of argument that claims the things you experience you don't actually experience because "reasons". Its a type of deflationary argument to explain away mental experience because it can't be explained by physical material.

>> No.16604827 [DELETED] 

>>16604742
Eliminative materialism claims that the physical is all there is to consciousness. It's quite a frightening proposition because it's hard to know whether they are only saying it because they want to cling onto materialist dogma or if they actually aren't conscious themselves.

>> No.16605122

>>16604293
Was he the one who came up with the word? I heard someone else say it was actually Taleb who came up with it.

>> No.16605185

>>16603787
He means that free will is a mode of perception that we all have by necessity of our biological structure. We act in the world as if we have free will, regardless if we think that we don't. Our thoughts have little bearing on the present.

>> No.16605397

>>16604804
Oh. Another stupidly named philosophical scenario. Never mind.

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>>16605185
> mode of perception

>> No.16605450

>>16604109
He's a former communust that became a neocon, suspiciously just like the other 30 or so Neoconservatives

>> No.16605490

>>16605450
9/11 broke a lot of brains.

>> No.16605492

>>16605447
>just d-don't be yourself goy

>> No.16605615

>>16605450
He was a former Trot its not really surprising. He was based in some other ways not relating to foreign policy.

>> No.16605639

>>16605492
Dost Thou Know Thyself?

>> No.16605661

>>16605450

>

>> No.16605721

>>16605122
He probably didn't come up with it, but he certainly helped to popularize as of recent times.

>> No.16605786

>>16604598
When it came to philosophy theology and metaphysics Dawkins absolutely was a pseud, but in his own field (evobio) he’s significant and not a pseud at all

>> No.16605863

>>16605639
Yes.