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How do you read while depressed? I'm in the middle of that room temperature, bored, everything is gray who even gives a shit kind of depression.

I want to learn, I like learning and it's useful for me, but I can't get myself to absorb information when I can't give a shit. For the life of me I can't figure out how to give a shit about anything right now. Every time I turn the page my brain just shouts that this is a perfect opportunity to put the fucking torture device down. I can't retain shit and get bored so unbelievably fucking easily.

How do I deal with this?

>> No.16587096

>>16587075
Do something you actually enjoy that doesnt involve screens or anything like that. Unironically go for a drive or for a walk, sounds like you just need to clear your head.

>> No.16587121

>>16587096
>Do something you actually enjoy that doesnt involve screens
That's the thing, the enjoyment isn't there

>> No.16587141

I've been in a state like that for a long time. If it stays despite natural remedies, seek a psychiatrist and try meds. If that doesn't work, try something stronger. Your reward system might not be on your side but there are ways to manipulate it. Keep in mind reading done in this state is still more productive even if it takes more effort. Just don't convince yourself it's a waste of time, good luck.

>> No.16587150

>>16587075
idk, if you discover tell me.
I just wish to die and not go to hell desu.

>> No.16587156

>>16587075
Search for professional help.
Psychologist, if you don't want drugs.
Depression is an illness, anon, you just can't read it out.
Depression is another pandemic we are having.
Take care of yourself, I love you and I want the best for you.

t. Depressed nigga in treatment.

>> No.16587182

>>16587141
>>16587156
I appreciate your responses, really, but there's gotta be something shy of drugging myself. Someone must have figured out how to artificially suppress boredom without chemicals, right?

>> No.16587201

>>16587075
lift some weights or do some cardio, once you get your blood pumping you will feel more sharp. its what I usally do when I'm on a position such as yours.

>> No.16587207

>>16587182
There are stimulants like adderall but I wouldn't recommend making it a habit. Like I said I have a similar problem, but I don't find it "boring" necessarily, or much worse than the internet for example. What are you trying to read? Does it align with your interests/prior hobbies?

>> No.16587224

>>16587075
I fought seeking help for a long time. I suffered from my earliest memory til I turned 22. I had the same problem as you. Many times I conquered it on my own, i would pull myself up again after sinking to new depths and staying there for months at a time. There were times that the worst of it would last for a year. It came in waves and always came back. It didn't matter that I quit drinking, worked out every day, and had all the habits of a healthy person. I was a popular person but my depression caused me to hate and despise those around me. I pushed everyone away. I didn't answer phone calls or texts. I had abusive parents that only made it worse and further instilled the idea that I could fix it on my own.

Many times I fell back down again until I finally found professional help. It took me throwing away an excellent career, beautiful girlfriend, and crashing my car to finally wake up to the fact that whatever was wrong with me was not something I could fix without medical help. Therapy didn't do much for me but the pills have allowed me to find sustainable enjoyment in life again. Colours are brighter, even. I'm still repairing the damage I caused, I feel much older than I am and my memory is not as good as it used to be. Don't wait any longer to get help. Start tomorrow.

>> No.16587243

>>16587201
I just finished my cardio before starting this thread, lifting is next. I train every day. Believe me, I'm trying this, it's not helping very much.

>>16587207
>What are you trying to read? Does it align with your interests/prior hobbies?
Everything I can, and yes. I have a lot of interests and try to tailor my reading to what I'm most interested in in the moment to kind of force enthusiasm, but it doesn't help.

>>16587224
Fuck. God damn it.

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16587257

>>16587075
Wow

>> No.16587277

>I’m bored
Read anyway. What else are you going to do with your time?

>> No.16587287

>>16587243
I know how hard it can be. I was against the drugs, I didn't want them to change me or make me less creative. I feared them. I thought they would turn me into a zombie but I was already becoming one.

I wouldn't suggest taking them right away but eventually I made that decision. I really did exhaust every other option.

You can try changing your lifestyle, going through a period of deep self-assessment and making life changes. Dramatic life changes does help for some people. You can "detox" from everything in modern life that would make even a balanced mind feel insane.

There were times when I could not get through a single sentence. I grew up loving to read and could read for hours, yet, I could not focus for even a moment. Since getting the help I needed I am back to being the prolific reader I once was.

Don't ever give up hope on yourself or see this as a character fault. It isn't going to be easy. Goodluck.

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16587534

Does it come in waves? Seems like I get that way where I don't want to do anything every few weeks. Only thing ive done thats worked is just wage harder, I took overtime and graveyard then after a week or so of that I just slept all weekend and was better again.

>> No.16587731

>>16587075
FAG

>> No.16588014
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16588014

>>16587075

Adderall, and don't force yourself to do something you don't enjoy. If you want to be interested but can't muster the motivation, watch videos on whatever topic you are interested in and see if you can't gin up enthusiasm to open the source.

>> No.16588250

>>16587075
M A R I J U A N A

>> No.16588734

>>16587075
you're not depressed you're just reading trash
stop reading overhyped shit that is boring as fuck
find something interesting to read
novelupdates works for me
I spent a month and a half doing nothing but reading Reverend Insanity, for ex.
I would wake up, shower, make coffee, then sit down to read Reverend Insanity until I had to piss/shit/eat, then keep reading until I literally pass out with my phone/laptop still on at where I stopped reading, then wake up, and repeat.
An entire month and half of this. For just one webnovel. I just finished my 10th one. While I'm in the middle of reading I don't even feel like using reddit/twitter/4chan/etc. I would even go almost a week repeatedly without jacking off purely because I never thought about it.

When I'm in the middle of a million-word novel I feel like it's the whole world. Nothing else matters. That's when I'm happy.

What's crazy to me is some people get that mindset from doing irl things like work/etc.

>> No.16588767

>>16588734
Just to add:
I actually have experienced this kind of single mindset for irl things before:
I used to gamble a lot and would stay up for 3 to 4 days at a time just gambling.
Same thing when I was daytrading. I went a whole week without sleeping in 2017 when I first got into crypto. Then same thing for stocks/options trading about a year ago.

In the absence of this mindset, I would feel exposed and naked and just spend my days watching youtube lectures or reading physics papers until I'd pass out from too much beer.

So I look for things that can give me that singlemindedness for a while.

>> No.16588773

>>16587075
why don’t you kill yourself?

>> No.16588778

>>16587156
stop repeating what your therapist told you to cope, its not going to do you any good

>> No.16588781

>>16587075
When I'm depressed, all I do is read. I have to tear myself away from books so I can actually take action before I feel better.

>> No.16588795

>>16587224
shut the fuck up pharmaceutical shill and stop telling other people to get on pills so you can feel better about your decision.

>> No.16588801

>>16588773
That isn’t funny. I feel bad for you if that’s the first thing you think when somebody sincerely asks for help dealing with depression.

>> No.16588829

>>16588801
then just kill yourself

>> No.16588844

>>16588829
>When your joke isn't funny so you repeat it

>> No.16588909

>>16588801
what if that’s what they want to hear? i think depression is a joke so i will respond with a joke, go ahead and take your pills, meditate, and do CBT to fix your imaginary problem while i sit here and laugh at you. i am sorry life isn’t like what the disney movies sold you! suicide offers a quick solution:)

>> No.16588937

>>16588909
based based
the retard acquired a false expectation of what existence should be like and when faced with the fact of existence he can't accept it
>>16588844
just kill yourself

>> No.16588966

>>16587121
Go for a walk seriously, take a warm shower, go to bed early and wake early
Use screens less and block blue light from them to regulate mood / sleep

>> No.16588999

>>16587121
so long as you try to enjoy something then there is no enjoyment. you make the mistake of believing you are experiencing self-consciousness differently from everyone else. it’s actually impossible to try to enjoy something. just stop trying and forget about it, of course it is paradoxical to try not to try. but if you understand what i am saying then you might be able to see the root of your problem which is that you’re basically mind-fucking yourself

>> No.16589553
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16589553

>>16587075
Read this. It should sort out the depression. If not then your a hopeless hylic and you should probably just go to the gym and try to have sex, get frustrated and consider suicide. There is no hope for you unless you embrace the transcendent.

>> No.16589592

>>16588795
You don't know what you're talking about. I even said specifically that I would not recommend taking them until all other options are exhausted.

Being on the wrong drug can 100% fuck someone up and many go on them before making any changes in lifestyle. That was not the case for me because I had everything any person could want. I did not come here for any sort of reassurance from others, this is not the place to do it considering everything is anonymous. I came here to offer insight and help to someone who may relate to the personal story I shared.

Would you tell someone with diabetes that they are a shill for taking insulin? Some of us have actual problems occurring beneath the surface that are fixable thanks to modern medicine - you are clearly ignorant on this topic but I respond now for anyone who might read this exchange between someone who knows what they're taking about and an ignorant imbecile.

>> No.16589595

>>16589592

Educate yourself:

https://youtu.be/NOAgplgTxfc

>> No.16590649

>>16587075
Kill yourself

>> No.16591632

>>16588966
Not him but I will try this. Too much screen time is killing me right now as I am awake from 4 pm to 8 am and do nothing but sit on the computer while I slowly lose my sanity.

>> No.16591672

>>16587224
>22

You was still a little child and the way you write tells me that you still are one. What a boring path you've chosen.

>> No.16592118

>>16591672
Sometimes I wish my life were boring. You were right about me being young, though.

So many people on 4chan think of themselves as masters of intuition - a few basic paragraphs and suddenly you're an expert on a faceless person you've never met.

>> No.16592163

>>16587075
Stoic literature! It's very similar to CBT which is a proven therapy against depression. I would start with Seneca on the shortness of life or Epictetus Enchiridion. Seneca is like your wise old uncle while Epictetus is like a teacher.

>> No.16592186

>>16587182
>something shy of drugging myself.
Electroconvulsive therapy works pretty well, psychotherapy most of the time, even just a depression work book is useful.

>> No.16592222

Yeah man, what you’re describing sounds to me like depression or ADD or something similar.

There are lots of things about our modern condition that cause this, unfortunately. Like what others have said, I would first try cutting down screen time (especially before dawn and after dusk) and cutting out porn and shitty food. Get regular anaerobic and aerobic exercise. Go outside every day. If you get bored, go for a walk. Get enough sleep and standardize your sleep/wake cycle. If you do all these for 1-2 months and still struggle, then it’s time to talk to a psych or shrink.

>> No.16592432

>>16587075
>fiction
won't help, it would just be a distraction
>non fiction
Myth of Sysiphus by Camus
>learn a skill
I would learn something creative like wood carving or something useful like trading stocks
Bonus tips: stop watching porn, stop using your smartphone, lift.

>> No.16592521

>>16587075
Have been there, OP. Just try to not be so severe with yourself and feeling guilty because you are not doing some kind of self-imposed duty. You can simply rest and wait for your mental health to have stabilised before setting too big goals.

>> No.16592631

>>16587182
Find a purpose in life. Live a harder life. Get married, make a kid, build a house.

>> No.16592889

>>16588773
Because I'm not in a rush to die? What kinda dumb ass question is this?

>> No.16593804

>>16592432
You seriously need to shut the fuck up. You're like 20 at best but probably younger