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>literally proves that fascism is the conclusion of the capitalist system
Thanks, I guess

>>16578113
And thats a good thing

>>16578136
It is if you’re a leftist, sure

>>16578113
>literally proves that fascism is the conclusion of the capitalist system
How? When? In what universe?

>>16578089
https://mises.org/library/democracy-god-failed-1

>>16578144
But fascists kill all the leftist

>>16578113
The only way to escape fascism is to embrace libertarianism.

>>16578306
>t. ignores all of known history

>>16578293
they kill "leftists" but not leftists, since leftists also end up killing "leftists".

>>16578077
I'm putting together a team

>>16578077
Those seem to be some nice editions of Fitzgerald and DH Lawrence.

>>16578398
Not sure what you mean, they don't hire leftists to kill other leftists in any historical example I can think off. They often kill all the leftists and then kill the most leftward rightist too.

>>16578409
Saint Max ready and waiting to bust some spooks

>Socrates>Plato>Aristotle
>Mises>Rothbard>Hoppe

Makes you think

>>16578077
>Hoppe
>Austrian Economics
>No Statistical Modelling
HAAAAAA! Am I suppose to take it seriously?!?!?!!?

>>16578077
He is the only based libertarian

>>16578306
>implying the two can't work together
Hoppe believed in "libertarianism by means of national socialism", i.e. libertarianism needs specific societal grounds in order to work and those grounds do not currently exist so we embrace national socialism to clean up society and create an atmosphere in which libertarianism can prosper.

>>16578113
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No he didn't, you clearly have never read him. This >>16578537 was his view of fascism, that it was a tool to achieve his end which was libertarianism.

>>16578113
Yep, double based in my book

>>16578476
Seething positivist, how long are we supposed to wait until your pathetic models predict anything?

>>16578113
Aside from standard libertarianism, he goes the extra mile in anti-cameralism. Which is completely antithetical to fascism.
He is in the line of German natural law individualists promoting local liberties such as Leibniz or Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn.
In terms of real politics, you can currently compare him to Hans Adam II, who is the more 'pragmatic' version of Hoppe. Btw Hans-Adam book is also great.
Hoppe probably doesn't give much damn about being called fascist, but I wonder what even is supposed to be fascistic in his writings?

>>16578537
At this point you're making up as you go

>>16578476
Go back, Keynesian

>>16578989
Keynesfags are not the most insufferable statistics obsessed.

>>16578476
What can your models predict?

In 2019, what did they predict about 2020?
If they didn't predict something approximate to what has happened, then what is their value? None, I say. None.

Suggest a starting book of his work.

>>16579171
Democracy: the God that Failed is both the meme book and the introduction.
Link to pdf in anon's post >>16578279

>>16579171
Chronological order is the way to go with Hoppe, otherwise you will end up like the retards such as >>16578113 and
>>16578537 so follow this
>A theory of socialism and capitalism>Economics and ethics of private property>Democracy the God that failed>The myth of national defense

>>16578279
The version on the Mises institute is in Spanish - https://libgen.lc/item/index.php?md5=90120231EC002FE66C48EB9117F04538
>>16578675
Rothbard has a great article about Hoppephobia, it's pretty fun when you look how terribly misrepresented he is in the mainstream, check it here https://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/murray-n-rothbard/hoppephobia/

>>16579347
Of course going straight for Democracy might, I guess, be confusing to people that have never read anything not globohomo approved or think that the old Venice Republic (say) is fascist.
I'm tempted to say the above two morons have simply not read it and shitposted relying on secondary memes.

>>16578978
t. never read him

>>16578978
"Libertarianism by means of National Socialism" is his most famous quote retard, it's even on his wiki of all places.

>>16579465
Citation needed

>taking ancaps seriously
So we can finally admit lit is worse than pol

>>16578265
The guy everyone’s talking about is a “libertarian anarchist capitalist” who’s brought the logical conclusion of his system to having privatized fascist communities. This is good for both fascists and leftists since it proves that capitalism is inevitably fascism

>>16579435
DTGTF is a great book, however it is definitely not a good introduction to Hoppe's austro-libertarianism as it heavily relies on some prior knowledge and understanding of austrian economics and Rothbardian ethics and Hoppe lays those out in ATOSAC and EAEOPP so starting with them is pretty much a must. Although, I do have to point out that his ATOSAC is probably his worst and weakest work as it is somewhat poorly written and his writing style there is not yet mature, it is still quite an important read. Hoppe has just been smeared by his opposition and, even worse, by pseudo-libertarians a-la i want gay faggots to smoke weed lmao, such as the liberalalas in the LP. It doesn't matter how methodolocally he has attacked and destroyed national socialism and italian fascism for them, they do not rely on logic and do not believe in freedom. For them it doesn't matter that he was one of the first people in the 90s to call out the natsoc tendencies within the paleocon movement. "Progressives"(aka communists) are batshit insane and they want you either enslaved or dead.

>>16578553
just enact nazism bro i promise we’ll have a utopia where everyone’s a CEO

lol this right wing version of withering of the state

>>16579492