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16558413 No.16558413 [Reply] [Original]

As a new writer, I'm planning a fantasy story, but I realized something when I was considering making my main character female; I don't know enough about writing female characters to do so convincingly, especially given that I am male. What should I remember when doing so, please? What should I avoid at all costs? What about if I have a group of female characters?

Besides magic being gender-neutral, what could cause a fantasy setting to have significantly greater gender equality than the equivalent real-world time period, BTW?

Also, what are some well-written existing female characters in fantasy stories that I can take inspiration from?

>> No.16558418

okay so here's what you do
have sex, with a woman
ask her for advice on whether your writing is good
simple as
or alternatively dilate, take tranny pills, hang your troon neck and die

>> No.16558439

>>16558413
1. write a dude
2. give him tits
3. put him in a dress (optional)

>> No.16558597

>>16558413
Write a man, then change the name to a female name and the pronouns to feminine pronouns. Read Shaw’s commentary on Man and Superman. There is literally no difference between men and women.

>> No.16558608

>>16558418
>>16558439
>>16558597
based trollposters
fuck you OP, you suck

>> No.16559053

Try not to write like you're doing lewd roleplay.

>> No.16559058

>>16558608
first post here, i was being serious

>> No.16559061

>>16558418
this is the best writing advice I've ever seen someone give on this board

>> No.16559071

>>16558413
Raven from teen titans

>> No.16559087

>>16558413
When Ridley Scott got the Alien screenplay Ripley was a man; he decided to make her female only after her characterization was set. Seriously OP, just write a normal character and make her a woman.

>> No.16559093

>>16559087
This. All women are fembull dykes in action thrillers with no real motivation or personality. I should know, I take my troon pills thrice daily and am currently dilating.

>> No.16559095

>>16559093
>Noooooo you can't like Alien, you must be a tranny!

>> No.16559096

Take tranny pills

>> No.16559102
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>>16558597

>> No.16559147

Just write it. Normal men and women are almost the same shit, don't let people say otherwise. We're all retarded.

>> No.16559190

>>16558413
please fuck off back to /tg/ and stay there. you have nothing to say worth anyone reading.

>> No.16559202

Write are you usually would and then give some female betareaders to hear their feedback.

>> No.16559793

>>16559102
Kids shouldn't handle guns.

>> No.16559836

>>16558413
write a dude
remove reason
remove morality

>> No.16560646

>>16559836
A lot of men fit that description without having any roast flaps attached.

>> No.16561066

>>16559793
Why not?

>> No.16561072
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>>16558413
>women
>fighting

>> No.16561077

>>16559147
>Normal men and women are almost the same shit, don't let people say otherwise.
imagine believing this.

>> No.16561081

>>16559095
This but unironically. Fuck your blockbuster normalfag trash, /tv/nigger.

>> No.16561098

>>16559087
>When Ridley Scott got the Alien screenplay Ripley was a man; he decided to make her female only after her characterization was set.
So in a nutshell, the character being female is just a worthless novelty to give a false sense of empowerment to the female audience.
>Seriously OP, just write a normal character and make her a woman.
Are you American? Do you really believe men and women are the same?

>> No.16561113

>>16558413
Read a book my n*gro

>> No.16561114
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>>16558413
>As a new writer, I'm planning a fantasy story, but I realized something when I was considering making my main character female

>> No.16561134

>>16558413
There were a significant amount of ancient queens; my favorites:
>olga of kiev
>wu zetian
Woman have always played active roles in court and village politics. Fighting and martial leadership is a big no-no though (read Martin van Creveld on this). Commericially women sometimes held power (Sparta). Priestess positions also gave significant power, depending on culture.

>> No.16561289

Not making gender matter is itself making a statement about gender. If you dont wish to make a statement about gender, you would need to briefly and subtly acknowledge it.
For an example, stories from my past are dependant on me being male. There are things that I take great pride in because it makes me "manlier" or more suitable to females, and things that I am embarrassed of or hide because it makes me less suitible as a man. Even if you dont intend to write anything about sexuality, your character may have interests that are common or uncommon for their gender. That influences the way your character uses or pursues that interest.
But if you lean too hard into gender you risk making the story 'about' gender. Remember that once you establish basic things, people will read between the lines.
Lets say in your story, your female character has some drinks and walks home.
A bad way of writing would be to write that she just stumbles home and has vague regrets and leave it at that. It would require suspension of disbelief to say that she had a man's experience of not worrying about the possibility of rape, or that the realization of what could have happened wouldnt come to mind later.
Another bad way of writing would be to spell out exactly what those dangers are. "I am a woman and that makes me a target for rape" No. Maybe if your story is about rape, but all you need to do is just change the details. Maybe she calls a cab instead of walking. Maybe she's with someone. Maybe you mention she knows the area and feels safe walking at night. Any of these things can be established with a couple words alone. Omitting things like the first way only makes it more obvious you are drawing exclusively from your experiences, and including things like the second way only makes it obvious that you are drawing from your assumptions.
Give your character whatever personality/motives/profession/etc you want them to have, but be aware of what behavior might develop if a man or woman lived through life with it, and include things like insecurities, habits, preferences, etc. that stem from experience as their gender. Avoid obvious things like talking about periods or dick size or shit like that.

>> No.16561340

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g9_wfkYjfo

>> No.16561358

>>16558413
Read Woolf, Proust and Flaubert.

>> No.16561403

Tranny here. If you write a male character and turn it female then you'll get a male brained female.

>> No.16561473

>>16561289
>ImBigOnReddit

>> No.16561503

>>16558439
Ah, the Venture Brothers strategy. Very nice.

>> No.16561784

>>16558413
Research the big 5 personality traits

Then realize that the traits which make a good and interesting character are more common in males, so if you give a female these traits, she will come across as masculine, and that's okay

>Higher neuroticism
>Higher agreeableness
>Lower competitiveness
>Higher interest in people and emotions rather than objects and systems

>> No.16561938

Read Dwight V. Swain's Creating Characters. The majority of writing any good character is just research and showing a summarized version of that person through their dialogue and action.

Swain uses the word 'telegraphed'. Fiction character telegraph or summarize reality.

For example if you have a character fussing about their hair looking just right, high heeled shoes, and dress, you've already invoked the audiences memory of femininity.

Everyone in every culture builds ideas in fiction around how 'females are supposed to work'. You don't need to do that, go watch youtube videos of girls with traits you want and describe that in your own words for your character.

Otherwise you're doomed to write a stereotypical feminine character that's been repeated a thousand times. If you want to do that, just open up the most popular fantasy book and copy their lines word for word, you might even sell more.

>> No.16561939

>>16558413
>>>/tg/
go back
go back
go back

>> No.16562043

>>16561289
based sex addict

>> No.16562046 [DELETED] 

>>16561134
>>16561938
>>16559102
>>16559087
>>16558418
All women are whores. They live life on easy mode and never have to face up to their whorish behaviour. All they have to do is just literally talk about themselves into a microphone and lonely male losers will pay them money. They just need a camera and a microphone and they can make thousands of dollars each month. Women will never know the struggle of being homeless as men will always be there to pay for a woman's mistakes and incompetence. The majority of men have to work a back breaking 50 hours a week whereas females can just pucker their lips and wink at a camera to earn a comfortable life without ever facing adversity or hardship. Only men can get drafted for war and are expected to die for the comfort of females. On sinking ships husbands are expected to drown while their roastie whore wives get to survive and go on to have guilt free sex for the rest of their lives. Divorced men have to pay 100% alimony and child support even if the woman has a job and a new husband. Men are more likely to commit suicide because of 21st century pressure while women continue to propogate the myth of the wage gap and gender equality. All women desire is instant gratification and narcissistic validation. A woman's greatest strength and weakness is a mirror. It reflects their vain and self obsessed need to idolise themselves but it also shows them for what they really are. Whores.

>> No.16562143

>>16561066
The recoil is too much for them to control. Children are far better suited to team weapons, like mortars or emplaced machine guns.

>> No.16562254

>>16558413
Write a man and take away reason, accountability, loyalty and honor

>> No.16563737

>>16562143
>The recoil is too much for them to control. Children are far better suited to team weapons, like mortars or emplaced machine guns.
Why are we even talking about this?

>> No.16565052

>>16558418
you have to ask her while you're fucking her?

>> No.16565058

It would be far more interesting to write a story which shows women as they were treated in that time then to alter the time to fit your ideals. Your ideals will be shown through the attitudes and actions of your female and male characters against/with that society.

>> No.16565119
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>>16561072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2shJ7NnX5Vs&ab_channel=USAWrestling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiiU1-VORZA&ab_channel=DwayneMiller

dude, girls can be badass

>> No.16565138

>>16561289
this is good advice

>> No.16565153
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>> No.16565224

>>16558413
>I don't know enough about writing female characters to do so convincingly, especially given that I am male
I have the same problem.

>> No.16565395

>>16558413
d.h. lawrence

>> No.16565489

>>16558413
Only mention her gender once in all the book.

>> No.16565521
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>>16558413
Don't write your waifu, don't write what women tell you a woman is, don't write a man with tits.

Often a lot of progressive writers make their "strong women" men with tits or idealized versions of what they think a strong woman is.
That's why pop culture is so saturated with butch women or mary sue that rarely face internal struggle, never daring to face ugly part of women psyche.

Women are physically weak, resilient, more empathic, more finely socially tuned and have a different sex drive and desire, don't write cliches of course but that's lot of characteristic influencing greatly female actions that feminist writers too keen to write a character to be praised on tumblr often forget.
Women are not carpet, eternal subordinate, or useless trophy to be saved either, they are social creature unconsciously aware of their strength and weakness.

>what could cause a fantasy setting to have significantly greater gender equality than the equivalent real-world time period
Industrialized society where the bulk of the workforce occupies job that can be done by both men and women, a safe society, and big cities.

Same could be said about gays, or any often times the only advice given is "just write a normal character, but like with x characteristics", failing to see that it's the characteristics that shape the characters.

>> No.16565637

Always describe what she's wearing and how the breeze feels on her perky tits and juicy ass. Virgins will tell you no woman thinks about her body in those terms all the time but fuck them. Half the point of writing a female character is wanting to fuck her. If you're trying to write a nuanced character it can just be a dude.

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>>16561340
can't believe it took so long to get to this

>> No.16566366

>>16565119
>adolescents

>> No.16567557

>>16565925
Where’s this from?

>> No.16567595
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>>16566366
the worst time to lose to a girl

>> No.16567829

>>16558413
God I want her to beat me up to bad

>> No.16567900
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>>16567829
>you will never be beaten up by cute girls
why even live

>> No.16567919

>>16565637
Based. The only nonjew here

>> No.16567927

>>16558413
In my fantasy world I just don't write female main characters because I will do it badly.

>> No.16568005

>>16558413
My advice for you: never ask for advice on anything about women on 4chan.

>> No.16568011

>>16568005
Dirty kike

>> No.16568035

>>16568011
No u

>> No.16568342

>>16565521
Underrated and based, thank you for the advice anon, Bovary is a recommendation I'd second

>> No.16568573

>>16567900
>why even live
Many, many reasons.

>> No.16568586

>>16558413
Don't bother trying to be realistic, in 2020 fiction feminism has erased all gender distinctions

>> No.16568709

>>16568573
such as?

>> No.16568864
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I highly disagree with the "write a male" approach. It results in, surprisingly enough, a cast of males and is the domain of low tier trash like the dresden files. To even frame the answer in terms of writing a man betrays the lack of a humanistic approach to writing, which in turn leads to an inability to write women and, even more detrimentally, an inability to write men or women outside of a solipsistic scope limited by your own gender of all things, which you either believe is scientifically and socially shaky ground or you deny such and your concept of man and woman has been irretrievably cucked by contemporary political discourse, which is to say that even in the in between bits where you are writing about neither men nor women your writing is shit anyway.

>> No.16569140

>>16568864
Just write a beta male. Beta males are women anyway

>> No.16569152

>>16562143
>>16563737
i think children can handle a .22 wmr or a .410 easily enough and those will definitely kill at close range so if you had a few children in trees i think they could reasonably stop a group of unsuspecting men

>> No.16570498

It comes down to motivations. Men and women are typically motivated by different things. Women may be seen as less competitive than men, but they just compete over different things, or in different ways. A big portion of this is due to differences in physical strength and aggression. Men are stronger and more aggressive, so the things they do tend to focus in that direction. If a man wants to kill someone, he might attack that person directly. A woman would be more inclined to use poison, or enlist someone to help her. Men tend to be more individualistic. Women are more cooperative. Obviously outlier exist, but that's exactly what they are, outliers.

If you want to write a believable character, get the motivation down first, and then think of how they'd try and get there, based on their disposition.

>> No.16570821

When a woman writes a shitty book with bad women protagonists (Twilight, Fifty Shades of Grey, etc) nobody brings up their gender as the reason why the protagonist is crap, but if a man was behind these books he'd be a terrible writer because he's a man and he doesn't understand women. Really makes me think.

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>>16565119
'Oh,no. I have been defeated. :)'

>> No.16571573
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>>16558413
Uh sweetie? Next time post an OP without a fucking DeviantArt watermark still on it, okay?

>> No.16571595

>>16565153
This is extremely bad advice, primarily because it isn't true.

>> No.16571749

>>16571573
I want her to crush my pelvis with her pelvis.

>> No.16571785

>>16561938
I remember that one. Swain was a master of the craft.

>> No.16571787

>>16561503
Eat the pennies Quizboy

>> No.16571982

>>16567900
apparently if you do wrestling you can
see>>16567595
>>16565119

>> No.16572066
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>>16558413
I'll help you OP
>make her slightly more emotional if she's young
>make her slightly sexist to men. like whenever two male characters are goofing off have her say "ugh, boys". or something like that
>don't write her horny
of course this isn't the basis for a character, these are details. your leading trait shouldn't be "this character is a woman", but "this character is a (insert role) who is a (insert job) with a (insert personality) personality
look at Wheel of Time for how to write women with different personalities

>> No.16572139

>>16558413
>>16571573
How do I get a GF that looks EXACTLY like this?

>> No.16572208

>>16572139
Alas...

>> No.16572294

Don't make a female who is the protag.
Write a protag who happens to be a female.
Gender, their sexuality, and shit like that should be saved for last unless that's their character...

>> No.16572341

>>16572066
>look at Wheel of Time for how to write women with different personalities
I'm going to actually lay you flat on the sidewalk and smash your teeth on the curb by stepping on your skull.

>> No.16572352

>>16565119
>122 lbs
lmao who cares, I could kill her in one strike.

>> No.16572449

If you're the introverted sort who doesn't get to talk to women too much or of you're just too shy, try reading stuff women like that was made for consumption by other women.

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>>16571982
I don't sadly

>> No.16572520

>>16572341
but anon, smooth skirts are a must in today's world

>> No.16572564

>>16572352
how do you know they were in a 122lbs weight division?
i've seen girls in 138 145 and even higher divisions

>> No.16573323

>>16572481
Nice art.

>> No.16573531

>>16572564
>how do you know they were in a 122lbs weight division?
literally in the first video.

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>>16572481
>posting some skinny twig

>> No.16573550

>>16565637
holy based

>> No.16573766

unironically aside from innate difference in experience (body) the stuff you write is going to be culturally determined so you can do whatever you want. only need to know if you are smart and writing psychology. it's fantasy and probably has different races so choose what you like for the story and be consistent.

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>>16558413
>As a new writer, I'm planning a fantasy story
NGMI

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>>16573766
>women same
Take 8 months to bring a baby to term, and will typically rear the child for 5-6years afterwards. Thus sex is a much bigger investment. The organs are more prone to damage, and there is significant decline in fertility with age. Also they can guarantee the child is theirs.
>men different
Produce millions of sperm, can impregnate multiple partners in a short space of time. Can invest in child rearing but not essential. Sex organs less delicate. Cannot be as certain a child is theirs.
>biology does not determine much
Actually it explains a whole bunch if you understand it. There is no reason you can't flout convention, especially if you have a society things like contraception, welfare for single mothers, artificial wombs etc. But these are powerful forces.

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>>16572481
it's never too late bro, you can still do jiujitsu, there's plenty of girl that can kick your ass there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlA3EAFwzUU&ab_channel=SankakuArts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V6AVUmGt8E&ab_channel=KyraMogwaiBatara

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFx2YpaqRw&list=PL389E53ED0312584A&index=16&ab_channel=phillashcroft

>> No.16574080

>>16572564
>girls in 138 145 and even higher divisions


did you see girl been effective on those divisions, i never seen a girl pin guys at 138 or above

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>>16574071
The hell!

>> No.16574304

>>16559147
>We're all retarded.
yes but we're retarded in different ways

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>>16567829
>>16567900

in 2020 everything can happen

>> No.16574989

>>16558413
just use your gf as base material

>> No.16575030
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16575030

>>16558413
1. Write a male
2. Remove reason
3. Remove accountability.

>> No.16575045

>>16561066
Because neo-bolsheviks piss themselves when their favourite prey can fight back.

>> No.16575051

>>16558413
You want advice on how to write a woman based on the real world, but you're creating a fantasy world where realistic advice won't apply. If women could shoot fire out of their asses they'd have a different perspective on self defense than a real woman. If you want realistic women, you have to keep the gender equality of the world similar to the real one. If you want equality, the way women will act will be different. Make that choice before you worry about how you'll follow through.

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>>16568709
Securing the existence of our people and a future for white children.

>> No.16575782

>>16575144
>that pic
Haha and nothing changes

>> No.16576439

>>16559087
The undie scene made her a woman. Everything else didn't matter 2bh

>> No.16576673

>>16567595
It isn't. They should use the lose to their sexual advantage 2bh rather than fighting her when they find that they can't beat her

>> No.16577727

>>16575051
>You want advice on how to write a woman based on the real world, but you're creating a fantasy world where realistic advice won't apply.
What about writing a woman in the real world then? Or perhaps in an urban fantasy setting where she’s only recently discovered that the supernatural exists?

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>>16576673
i don't know bro, girls can be pretty cruel

>> No.16579494

>>16578478
What's going on here?

>> No.16579709

Why there's so many incels in this board? Holy shit I want to go back to 2011 when people had a normal but funny conversation without having to bring >tfw no gf and woman related shit. EVERY fucking board is tainted with incels.

>> No.16580279

>>16579709
>why don't they love my epic tomboy (aka not a tomboy at all just a man with breasts) femdom fetish????

>> No.16580529

>>16559836
you just wrote gigachad

>> No.16581006

>>16579494
a girl is beating a guy in a wrestling match

>> No.16582210

>>16558413

>character
>female

Found your mistake.

>> No.16582415

>all the main characters in my story so far are male (there are a fair amount of women, they're just less significant to the story)
>think I would probably have to change that to get published but also don't really care
There's a character who's the sister of a main character I could use but I don't know what to do with her/don't think I have enough time to make her a main one

>> No.16582449

>>16561066
Because you're american

>> No.16582581

>>16582449
But I'm European?

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>>16578478
this chick is crazy

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>>16582769

>> No.16583696

>>16582771
I can see that.

>> No.16583789

>>16558439
He's not even trolling. This is what makes fantasy women so appealing

>> No.16584879

>>16583789
>He's not even trolling. This is what makes fantasy women so appealing
How do you figure?

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>>16584879
Like this

>> No.16585140

Can anybody elaborate on the dude with tits concept? Why do you believe that to be the case?

>> No.16585508

>>16558413
make her submissive, agreeable , traditional, quiet, empathetic , loyal only to his father and his husband, and faithful in God.

>> No.16585842

>>16585508
Sexist.

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16585875

An easy way to get traction among a femcel audience is to make your female protagonist a huge psychotic cunt, then construct the narrative in a way that rewards other characters for liking her and punishes anyone who dislikes her.

>> No.16585919

>>16585875
we are supposed to roll for a gf?
rolling i guess

>> No.16585960

>>16585508
>faithful in God.
Why would he give his main character a characteristic that only NPCs have? Unless that was the point of the story I guess.

>> No.16586217

>>16585875
r o l l

>> No.16587355

>>16585875
I hate this art style...

>> No.16587385

>>16585842
Nothing wrong with that, I suppose. Though I'd take it further and simply conquer both sexes into one monogender.

>> No.16587422

>>16585875
Goth

>> No.16587839

>>16585875
>An easy way to get traction among a femcel audience is to make your female protagonist a huge psychotic cunt, then construct the narrative in a way that rewards other characters for liking her and punishes anyone who dislikes her.

can you give an example of this?
i'm trying to think an example myself but i can't come up with any, but i think i know what you mean

>> No.16588059

>>16587839
life is strange, the story almost implodes on itself if you choose to never take chloe's side

>> No.16588330

>>16561098
He's writing a fantasy story, not Shakespeare.

>> No.16589792

>>16558413
Write an emotionally incontinent asshole who never suffers the consequences of their bad decisions. There you go.

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bump

>> No.16592001

>>16565119
wow girls can win tournaments against guys? that's pretty crazy

>> No.16592170

>>16558413
Write your waifu.
Then have the story treat her as an antagonist.
Done.

>> No.16593165

>>16592170
>Write your waifu.
>Then have the story treat her as an antagonist.
Why?

>> No.16593703

>>16582771
seems based

>> No.16593709

>>16585508
>loyal only to his

>> No.16594995

>>16585875
roll

>> No.16595041

>>16558413
>"Buff" Elf
>can literally kill her with one strike

>> No.16595365

>>16569152
Based /k/lit posting

>> No.16595371

>>16595041
Yeah...no. You're likely an out of shape slob. She could knock you out in one kick.

>> No.16595667

>>16558413
nice grill :)

>> No.16595699

>>16595371
I'm 6'2 and bench over 400+, cope manlet.

>> No.16595719

>>16558413
Don't. The last thing any book needs is broads.

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>>16595699
Anime girls can beat fully grown men twice their size and weight. You're toast man.

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>Why would he give his main character a characteristic that only NPCs have? Unless that was the point of the story I guess.

>> No.16595941

>>16558413
>I don't know enough about writing female characters to do so convincingly

Then dont write a female main character until you have acquired the requisite life experience.

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>> No.16596742

>>16595994
Where is this even from?

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16596767

writing female characters sure is fun. I always start with making them extremely self absorbed and then punctuate their character with moments of crushing insecurity. Make sure whenever they eat something they take a photo of it first, and make sure their schedule revolves around all the different men they have cataloged in their iPhone. Also make sure your female protagonists never say anything that has to do with virtue or introspection. If your female protagonist says something with thematic weight
you ought to delete it and replace it with something like an idea for a new nail polish color.

The only problem is whenever a female like this is front and center of the story it inevitably becomes a comedy. But I'm a sucker for realism.

>> No.16596978

>>16596742
As good as it gets

>> No.16597493

>>16596767
>writing female characters sure is fun. I always start with making them extremely self absorbed and then punctuate their character with moments of crushing insecurity. Make sure whenever they eat something they take a photo of it first, and make sure their schedule revolves around all the different men they have cataloged in their iPhone. Also make sure your female protagonists never say anything that has to do with virtue or introspection. If your female protagonist says something with thematic weight
>you ought to delete it and replace it with something like an idea for a new nail polish color.
What about in fantasy settings?

>> No.16598095

>>16558418
unironic truth. results in you 1. exploring sex differences 2. inquiring to the party u are trying to write

>> No.16598726

>>16598095
>inquiring to the party u are trying to write
How?

>> No.16599293

>>16598095
>exploring sex differences
Like what?

>> No.16600595

>>16595876
>Anime girls can beat fully grown men twice their size and weight. You're toast man.
How realistic is that, anyway?

>> No.16600787

>>16600595
Pretty realistic. Have you seen the videos posted above?

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>>16600787
Forgot pic

>> No.16601064

>>16585875
r0ll1n

>> No.16601288

>>16600787
>Pretty realistic. Have you seen the videos posted above?
Not yet, what about scientific sources?

>> No.16601292

>>16558413
lole, just go tranny

>> No.16601324

>>16600787
>realistic
I don't think an actual woman could ever beat me in a real fight. Not even ones trained in martial arts.
Practice is one thing, but actually being face to face with someone not only willing but intending to physically harm you without the intervening power of rules and a referee is too distressing for 99% of women to cope with. Plus years of hollywood movies and such bullshit has made the average woman erroneously believe she can contend with even skinnyfat losers... little does she know a misconceived assumption like that will only work in my favour...
I'm totally serious by the way. A girl in college asked me if I thought she could beat me up. I told her the above and the mere mention of getting hurt already made her basically piss herself. I haven't beaten up a woman (yet) but I know I will have no problems doing it.
Besides just consider how small the average female is. I could do a small hop and basically sit on her head.

>> No.16602534

>>16601324
>I don't think an actual woman could ever beat me in a real fight. Not even ones trained in martial arts.
Pride doth come before thy fall...

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>>16565521
extremely based advice.
also simply making the female character ugly gives way to great novelty and character exploration.
Most oftenly the female protag is described as either very cute, beautiful, outright gorgeous, or not really given a rating but the whole setting suggests that she is reasonably attractive. Make her outright ugly if you want a really fresh perspective.

>> No.16602782

>>16567595
This is entirely because male have an innate instinct for protecting women. I can't put the same effort when I have to wrestle a girl as I do when I have to wrestle a guy. I'm sure a professional boxer would never punch a female opponent as hard as he would a male opponent. There are essays on how men's instinctive sense of protection toward women gets in the way of order and hierarchy e.g. sports teams or military action.
Modern women on the other hand have no regard for anyone but themselves and they're taught to hate men, so they can go all out and the system shuts an eye when they mangle your nuts against the rules.

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>>16601288
>>16601324
>>16602782
Shut up losers. Athletic girls know how to take a punch and dish out punishment. Bow down to your brown goddesses of fitness or a severe beating is in order.

>> No.16602881

>>16558413
Just transition, you will know everything right away, and you can get anyone who questions you cancelled.
Also the only way you will ever get published these days, if you don't already have a name.

>> No.16603676

Bump

>> No.16604911

>>16602872
>Shut up losers. Athletic girls know how to take a punch and dish out punishment. Bow down to your brown goddesses of fitness or a severe beating is in order.
What's on her head...

>> No.16605305

>>16604911
Metallic bunny ears

>> No.16605409

>>16558439

Also remove morality and accountability

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>>16558413
>Also, what are some well-written existing female characters in fantasy stories that I can take inspiration from?
If you're not researching history and religion/myth you should.
Otherwise I recommend Touhou. All the characters are cute girls but are very different form each other.

>>16565521
>don't write a man with tits.
I want to write that someday. There's a lot I could do with that idea deepening on how or why a woman is "a man with tits."
>Industrialized society where the bulk of the workforce occupies job that can be done by both men and women, a safe society, and big cities.
Magic can add to this depending on how wide spared it is and how it works. Fighting isn't the only thing your characters can (or should) do in your story.

>> No.16605460

>>16558413
>hurr durr how do write woman
fuck you and your baitposting

>> No.16605750

>>16558413
I think women choose who will be their queen by whoever has the largest pussy. So if you want your character to be powerful and show dominance over lesser specimens you must give her a mighty hole.

>> No.16605783

>>16558608
OP is the troll, these are the ones taking the bait.

>> No.16605949

>>16585875
tomboy or spectre pls

>> No.16605954

>>16605949
i am disappoint

>> No.16606017

Learn to write characters instead of architypes and genders

Nobody can say how a woman does and does not act, just because they themselves, nor those that they know, do not act in the way the character does.

This goes double if you are writing characters from worlds and/or cultures that do not exist in our world. Who are they to say the way they act is not normal?

Just remember to keep one thing in mind.
Be consistent in the way you write your character.

>> No.16607173

Bump

>> No.16607446

>>16606017
>Learn to write characters instead of architypes and genders
And how do I do that?

>> No.16608576

>>16607446
bee yourself bro :D

>> No.16608579

>>16600787
>Have you seen the videos posted above?
You mean the ones where girls are beating undernourished manlets strictly in their weight class?

>> No.16608582

>>16558413
women are people too. just write people. if you try to write a femme character its probably gonna come out cheesey/bad/2d. Read a lot of female writers might also be a good idea

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>>16602872
One. Strike. That's all it would take.

>> No.16608774

>>16608584
My eyes!

>> No.16609589

>>16561098
Silence, European

>> No.16609620

>>16582769
God, I wish that were me

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>>16582449
That's what I thought, you're nothing but a eurobitch too afraid to offend his nanny-state...

>> No.16609650

>>16585875
Roll

>> No.16609668

>>16585875
roll blocker.

I will break the narrative

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>>16563737
>Why are we even talking about this?
Memes

>> No.16609767

>>16558413
Why hasn't this thread been nuked yet?

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>>16585875
>We need more (Insert female character who is LITERALLY INCAPABLE OF EVER BEING WRONG despite doing everything wrong and is every conceivable evil)
When will it end?

>> No.16610594

>>16609767
Why would it?

>> No.16611881

Bump

>> No.16611886

>>16559147
just because you have the brain capacity of a female doesn't mean we all do

>> No.16611892

>>16562254
based

>> No.16612374

>>16572066
Based Fred Benes poster.

>> No.16612614

>>16558413
OK focus on the milkers

>> No.16613611

Bump

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>>16608579
They don't malnourished to me.
>>16608584
Lol. This is what would actually happen.

>> No.16613786

>>16561784
As an actual femanon, that greentext is spot on and now I'm trying to figure out how to de-retard myself.

>> No.16613822

>>16568864
Holy run-on sentence... clearly you're a woman because I swear it took you about a month to get to that period

>> No.16613860

>>16572139
hairspray. Lots of it... because hair doesn't do that. And plastic elf ears from etsy. And costume contact lenses. And a wig or frequent hair straightening and bleaching in the sink so her natural nappy black roots wont show. So, she certainly won't wake up like this. She'll wake up as a regular kinky-haired negress who takes kickboxing and dresses up as an elf to take advantage of loser nerds on onlyfans. Probably histrionic or psychotic. Just know the reality, dude.

>> No.16613894

>>16613860
That sounds so hot. God I wish she would beat me up

>> No.16614218

>>16613786
You only care because you're neurotic about it

>> No.16614897

>in after troll OP
Women need to be emotional and introspective. I’m dead serious.
I notice mother characters tend to be really good candidates for this because they have a family to care about this can motivate their actions. Ignore the reddit posters who think you can just change pronouns halfway.

>> No.16615020

>>16585875
rólalo

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/thread

>> No.16616547

>>16616374
Have any more, please?

>> No.16616629

Spoiler alert, OP is autogynephilic coomer

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>>16616547
Huh? More of what? You're going to have to be a bit more specific, anon-kun :)

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/thread
And this time it's for reals