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How is this guy so fucking long for how little is written.

>> No.16550895

>>16550101
He was the greatest Greek poet: read 'The Contest of Homer and Hesiod' to see Homer getting utterly BTFO.

>> No.16551257

>>16550101
>he doesn’t intuitively understand early wisdom poets

>> No.16551274

>>16550101
Apollo sent dolphins to recover his body for burial and Artemis unleashed the dogs against his killers. How based can you get?

>> No.16551619

>be farmer
>spend idle nights in rustication, lying in the dark and waiting to fall asleep
>contemplate the stars (like thousands have before me) to pass the time
>become curious about cosmos; slowly amend my contemplations to a doctrine of a priori causality
>devise the first speculative cosmogony in human history (probably), all while ploughing the fields and tending to the livestock
>people love it and becoming adoring fans
>one day oracle tells me that i'm going to die
>says it will happen in Nemea, where Hercules overcame the great lion
>figure i'll sidestep the prophecy by heading in the opposite direction to Locris, in sunny Italy
>get there weeks later, despite the onset of terrible storms
>decide to make an offering to Zeus for being a bro and letting me slide
>head to the temple
>right away notice that there are no sacredly-appointed catamites outsides to diddle
>okay.jpeg
>go inside
>the portico decorations are poverty tier
>priests and acolytes are all dressed like rubes
>relief above the altar isn't the ultra-chad Zeus Olympus knows and loves, but some piss-chugger shepherd with a dumb look on his face
>ask the temple greeter what gives
>"Why, my son -- surely you know that this sacral ground is consecrated to the Shepherd God, Zeus Of Nemea?"
>think about this for a sec
>"Nemea"...wait...
>turn around in horror and try to leave
>there's a Nemean sentry blocking the exit
>he gives me a wicked grin, twirling his polearm like a runner's javelin
>"Noble Hesiod! How fortunate that our paths have crossed. Please, before you leave, I entreat your answer to this simple riddle..."
>"How does a lion become a cannibal?"
>say nothing, give him a queasy look
>ugly brute draws himself up, raising the spear above his head; gives me one last look of bloodthirsty amusement
>"HE SWALLOWS HIS PRIDE!"
>the last thing I see are my eviscerated guts spilling out over the stone tiles of the temple floor
=(

>> No.16551639

>>16551274
I did no such thing, he was a lying sack of shit.
So what if he won a contest. Louise Glück Won a contest too

>> No.16551683

>>16551619
high quality post

>> No.16551697

>>16551619
Based

>> No.16551699

>>16551639
>Louise Glück Won a contest too
As she deserved.

>> No.16551787

>>16551699
She apparently won for being completely middling, and, like Hesiod, a mouthpiece for the establishment
Just what I’ve heard.

>> No.16551914

>>16551639
>>16551787
Wtf are you talking about?

>> No.16551941

>>16551914
according to some scholars they suspect Hesiod either chose traditions or subtly altered traditions for political purposes; the greek were made up of several city-states with independent governments

although that namefaggot is probably reaching by implying Hesiod's fame was all politics; he's lasted this long because he is influential

>> No.16551944
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16551944

>>16551787
>a mouthpiece for the establishment
Because if someone doesn't dance for contemporary politics in their art the left reveals themselves as just woke-reactionaries yearning to be new-age radicals.

>> No.16551958

>>16551941
She's a feminist and probably hates him for 'misogyny'. Hesiod's myths are basically the standard, passed down from the highest point of the archaic period.

>> No.16552499

>>16551619
thank you for adding to the quality of this website.

>> No.16553025
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16553025

>>16551944
Being complicit with the status quo of crime is a political stance.
I don’t judge her as harshly, I only compare her winning a prize from that criminal status quo to Hesiod singing the praises of the new-ish order of his day. I don’t care that he won a prize, I care that he became influential, and I care what the stories were before him

>> No.16553047

>>16551619
Basado.

>> No.16553217

>>16551619
But the Greeks didn't have catamites out the front of temples.

>> No.16555063

>>16553025
You are as disgusting as the /pol/ tourists and right reactionaries. She expresses herself through 'universality' so she undeservingly won because she is 'establishment'? If someone paints something that doesn't relate to current political issues do they become an advocate of the status quo?

>> No.16555073

>>16551619
based

>> No.16555087

>>16551619
βασεδ

>> No.16555107
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16555107

>>16551619
>locris is in italy

>> No.16555534

>>16555063
Again, there’s nothing particularly wrong with her, it is the establishment giving her a prize. A reward for banality from the ruling class for her cooperation.
Ah, but you’re just a coward and you like the banality of pomo and whatever you hate is “cultural marxism”

>> No.16555614

>>16555534
>whatever you hate is “cultural marxism”
you are projecting the masquerading interest in literature that you waltz about in. I said:
>as disgusting as the /pol/ tourists and right reactionaries.
You already admitted you haven't read Glück, arguable the most popular living female poet in English. You spend your time complaining about reactionary threads while making the majority of posts in them because you don't actually care about literature. You care about politicals and your pop-critique of any literature is merely informed by w/e new 'radical' opinion you most recently read on your twitter feed.

Glück won because she is the establishment is just your/left version of "she is jewish".

>> No.16555635

>>16553217
the greeks HATED catamites

>> No.16555648

>>16555107
whoops
haha

>> No.16555760

>>16555614
>You already admitted you haven't read Glück
Right from the start.
Everything else you said is trash designed to hurt me, though it doesn’t. It was a simple comparison. Don’t strain yourself about it, please, for your sake.

>> No.16555826

>>16555760
>Right from the start.
Then why determine if she should or shouldn't have won based on political twitter? Because
>Glück won because she is the establishment is just your/left version of "she is jewish".
You think you are better than the /pol/ autists that infect this board but you are from the same stock.

>> No.16555975

>>16555826
>You think you are better than the /pol/ autists that infect this board but you are from the same stock
WOW. In this thread vile butterfly was put in its place.

>> No.16556000

>>16555975
Wow so just like in every other thread

>> No.16556064
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16556064

>>16555107
yeah

>> No.16556072

kys buttertranny

>> No.16556073

>>16551639
lol

>> No.16556090

>>16550101
Are we really talking about some nobody in a Hesiod thread?

>> No.16556117

>>16555826
There’s a class war going on and they use IDpol to distract. How many times do I have to say it?

>>16556073
Thank you.

>> No.16556145

>>16551639
>>16553025
>>16555534
Take your meds, triptard.

>> No.16556163

>>16556117
>she won because of her race
>she won because of her class / apolitical art
drown