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So far I've read about half of Nietzsche's works including Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Beyond Good and Evil, and The Genealogy of Morals. Has anyone else, while meditating on Nietzsche, ever had the overwhelming conclusion that he just isn't convincing?
>inb4 filtered
It's not being filtered, I read very slowly and carefully to understand what he said, he just isn't convincing. His idea of the overman, of the subjective nature of morality, and of slave morality just doesn't convince me. He doesn't even really make actual arguments either, he makes assertions and then jacks himself off over how "smart" he is.
Anyone else experience this?

>> No.16541350

"there are no facts only interpretations."

"you have your way i have my way, as for the right way, the correct way and the only way, they do not exist."

Nietzsche doesn't have much of a philosophy as in the sense of religion and to an extent even how stoicism are like. He was you more of a poet saying whatever he liked.

The feeling of uncertainty is common as nietzsche didn't really care much about convincing people, he himself declared it multiple times saying how he people didn't understood him because he was a man too ahead of his time and how only a "specific kind of individuals" would understand him.

So ye, in short, his philosophy was sort of like just do whatever you want mate.

>> No.16541504

>>16541268
I started with BGE about 11 years ago and the very first page informed me of something I already thought. Reading Nietzsche was mostly a confirmation of thoughts I already had for me. He didn't need to do much convincing for me, though I disagree that he doesn't provide ample reasoning for his ideas. The rationale he uses is pretty clear if you read between the lines.

>> No.16541975

>>16541268
He's the most overrated philosopher by a mile. Funny that Kaufmann's comment on Heidegger's unoriginality is even more true of Nietzsche.

>> No.16542008

>>16541350
>he himself declared it multiple times saying how he people didn't understood him because he was a man too ahead of his time and how only a "specific kind of individuals" would understand him
What an absolute LARPer he was. If Nietzsche was alive today he would be a Redditor.

>> No.16542009
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>>16541350
>He was you more of a poet saying whatever he liked.
this

>>16541268
Send your ships into uncharted seas! Live at war with your peers and yourselves! Be robbers and conquerors as long as you cannot be rulers and possessors, you seekers of knowledge!" The Gay Science

His work is antiphilosophical in a similar sense of Diogenes, Heraclitus, Deleuze. Just appreciate Nietzsche for the madman he is Anon, learn to become an overman in your own phantasy, as he did; weep over a whipped horse in the street.

>> No.16542057

>>16542009
>Send your ships into uncharted seas! Live at war with your peers and yourselves! Be robbers and conquerors as long as you cannot be rulers and possessors, you seekers of knowledge!
This coming from a man who lived his entire life as a disgraced, depressed incel who abused hard drugs and contracted all sorts of diseases - I'm not convinced.

>> No.16542084

>>16542057
> being proud to be disgraced incel
> abusing hard drugs
> hanging out with Stacy 'stutes
> contracting syphilis (+5 to Enhance Writing)
based

>> No.16542148

>>16542057
This. If the criminal was a strong man in unfavourable conditions then why didn't Nietzsche become a criminal? Because he was a larper.
At least the faggot romantics went outside.

>> No.16542161

>>16542057
>drugs that everyone used because doctors were prescribing them for anything.
>syphilis version was fabricated by a dude named Wilhelm Lange-Eichbaum whom Nietzsche criticized heavily. In reality it was a brain tumor.
>except he literally served in the Franco-Prussian war in 1870 you dilettante samefag retard

>> No.16542178

>>16542161
1. He used them for recreational purposes, not because he was prescribed them, knowing full-well the escapist effects of them.
2. Thinking syphilis is the only disease he contracted is retarded, by the time he died he had 7 different diseases.
3. Woah, he served in the military? So did thousands of other writers throughout history who still turned out to be pussies. The fact that you don't even try to refute the fact that he was a depressed doomer who didn't live up to his own standards says a lot.
Go suck Nietzsche's babycock somewhere else.

>> No.16542214

>>16541350
>The feeling of uncertainty is common as nietzsche didn't really care much about convincing people, he himself declared it multiple times saying how he people didn't understood him because he was a man too ahead of his time and how only a "specific kind of individuals" would understand him.
every retard say this desu

>> No.16542233

>>16542178
>>16542161
Here's a paper on the topic, if anyone's interested.

>The neurological illness of Friedrich Nietzsche
https://www.actaneurologica.be/pdfs/2008-1/02-Hemelsoet%20et%20al.pdf

>> No.16542245

>>16542233
>8 pages
Wanna give me a TL;DR?

>> No.16542308

>>16542245
syphilis is disputed but unlikely. he had migraines, mood disorders, dementia, stroke, heavy use of opium, potassium bromide, chloral hydrate, severe eye problems, pneumonia, and brain tumor which killed him

>> No.16542479

>>16541975
>He's the most overrated philosopher by a mile.
Nah, that would be Plato.

>> No.16543453

>>16542479
Lol seethe neetch

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>>16541268

>> No.16544013

>>16541268
>He doesn't even really make actual arguments either, he makes assertions and then jacks himself off over how "smart" he is.
What a Chad.

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16544033

>What a Chad.