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tolkein never recovered from this

>> No.16537425

>beaten by guys who literally can't react or produce new material
Women in the workforce.

>> No.16537426

>>16537417
she looks like NONE of her chakras are activated. odd enough but especially for a chinaman's wife!

>> No.16537430

>>16537417
>when a man that's literally been dead for almost 50 years still makes more money in sales than you do
women BTFO

>> No.16537452

>>16537417
Looks like she never recovered from this.

>> No.16537638

Imagine being a fantasy "author" in 2020

>> No.16537652
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>>16537638
Please don't be so mean, I'm trying my best

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>>16537638
It is a bit of a futile endeavor after this smug guy and Tolkien already wrote the perfect fantasy novels

>> No.16537661

>>16537417
from beyond grave, still making roasties seethe
bravo Tolkein

>> No.16538178

>>16537426
Dude, the proper nomenclature is chinawoman.

>> No.16538186
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Reminder that J.R.R. Tolkien has been dead 50 years and STILL publishes more books on average each year than George RR Martin

>>16537654
Based Peakposter.

>> No.16538212
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>>16537417
real btfo

>> No.16538291

>>16537417
She cute

>> No.16538347

>>16538212
>lists six dead white males

>> No.16538462

>>16538212
This guy is such a pseud it's hilarious

>> No.16538589

>>16538212
>His love for hierachical status-quos
Tolkien literally said he was an anarchist. What a fucking retard.

>> No.16538650

>>16538212
On the one hand it is actually true that most fantasy nowadays is at least semi-based on Tolkien's work and it would be nice to see someone shake things up, on the other hand he has clearly never read a Tolkien novel (Tolkien was fervently anti-war and some of the most powerful/wise characters in his novels were women like Melian and Galadriel).

I remember some loser on Twitter who wanted "Lord of the Rings with no white people" and described literally that, a copy/paste of LotR that included people of every race but white. I thought "this person is inches away from something that could be very cool".
Tolkien created Arda because he wanted England to have a mythology like Greece and the Norse countries do. He drew on European myths from across the continent in creating his work. If someone did that with African folklore and did it right, we could see a completely new take on fantasy.

>> No.16538688

>>16538212
But what were gimli's sexual politics?

>> No.16538711

>>16538212
>moorcock
top kekkles. what a brainlet

>> No.16538757

>>16538650
No, you see, today's authors have 0 creativity and seem to follow the line like fucking bug men, I a long time ago read an article, an article that quoted this Mexican woman" I want to make something like a game of thrones but how do I make it less European, I can't name the king pepe or put [Insert generic but superficial aspect of pre-packaged Mexican culture that they sell you in the US], I would love to see something interesting based in Mesoamerica but no, the bug rag on and on
about everything being too European while they can barely write
cliche-filled YA garbage, like Jesus Christ, can't these soulless husks of humans even read a Wikipedia to make some basic book with fantasy civs based in Africa or India or Mesoamerica/the Andes? and honestly if someone ever has enough soul to do it, it would be best if they abandoned metaphors about colonialism behind, This shit has been done a thousand time a thousand times better, stop it.

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>>16538757
Liliana Bodoc, an argentinian writer, did it. I don't know why these hacks can't do it, seems pretty easy.

>> No.16538920

>>16538212
>glorifying in war
>Tolkien
The fuck?

>> No.16539225

>>16538212
This is just the written form of the pleasure degenerates get from being physically repulsive in public. Woah I have piercings and tattoos, doesn't that offend you?! Ha I'm so SCARY and UNCONVENTIONAL (take that Mom and Dad!)

I'll keep looking at my landscape paintings and walking around in the woods pretending I'm in Beleriand about to discover the first hoomans with their crude instruments. Take that anarkiddies

>> No.16539370

>>16538650
There was a black author who came to that same conclusion. He was going to write a fantasy epic with black characters using African mythology.

>> No.16539444

>>16537417
She cute.

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>>16537652

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>>16538212
>elves, dwarves, and magic rings
>Tolkien's cliches

>> No.16539518

>>16537417
>image of a live white guy
What did they mean with this?

>> No.16539523

>>16537652
>I'm trying my best
Well, it's not enough. And never will be.

>> No.16540059

>>16538650
Tolkien was definitely not "fervently anti-war" as a matter of principle, like some brain-dead pacifist; having lived through a pretty nasty one however, he was not one to glorify it mindlessly, but neither did he reject the celebration of heroic warrior values.

>> No.16540095

>>16538757
>Mexican women bitching without trying to do anything about it
>Hispanics with poor English
This is certainly the worst thing Tolkien did yet

>> No.16540614

>>16538212
what ever happened to the "author is dead"?

>> No.16540616

>>16537417
So were they in their time but the difference is that they didn't whine about it.

>> No.16540623

>>16538212
That's a big nose on that pseud

>> No.16540650

>>16538212
M. John Harrison is trash.

>> No.16540661

>>16537654
Based