/lit/ - Literature

Did you forget about interlibrary loans?

No one outside of /pol/ knows who the fuck evola is. Try to make it at least somewhat believable next time.

>Visit local library
>display stand full of peepee
>Clearly a toilet oriented library
>Ask the clerk where poopoo is
>Calmly tells me he doesn't have any, and asks me to leave

Marx and Lenin are actually relevant, Evola is just a LARPing schizo.

Marx and Lenin are great and Evola is meme garbage tarzan philosophy that only /pol/tards know about. Sounds like a good library. Where is it anon?

So, what did Evola actually talk about? I often see his books in those occult reading infographics but he's also a fascist?

then everyone clapped

>>16518568
Good. Froggers stay in your basements

>visit local library
>display stand full of the complete works of Stalin and Kim Il Sung
>I ask for some Trotsky
>librarian comes at me with an icepick

>>16518595
No, he’s not fascist at all, he’s some “traditionalist” retard who LARPs about magic, god kings and rituals

>>16518598
>and then everyone clapped
You need to go back

Evola's reaching almost Dennis Prager levels of rent-free living

>>16518603
>“traditionalist” who LARPs about magic, god kings and rituals
sounds based to me

>>16518584
>>16518589
stop samefagging, commie retard

>>16518595
Basically, Tradition and modernity are not merely the historical interpretation we view them as, but two distinct states regardless of time and space. Tradition is about unity from above, oriented from a ruler unto people, a people who content with being what they are, typically in castes. Modernity is about collectivism from below - democratic, equality, rejection of a higher orientation.

You would have to read him to find out more because to be honest, he's such a dense writer, I find it hard to even explain his position. Interesting, nonetheless, there really is no one like him.

>>16518612
I try and call it out as often as I see it, but the Marxists really hate him and try and misinterpret him. I doubt most of them have even read him yet they constantly make shitty threads like this.

>>16518646
How is this thread anti-evola? It's just a joke about a butthurt leftist clerk

>>16518638
>he's such a dense writer, I find it hard to even explain his position.
“So profound, I can’t even understand him!” — this is because it’s schizobabble, it’s not deep. Take the HisMat pill and grow up

>>16518568
Sounds based where's it at

>>16518658
>I don't understand this writer
>It's not that I'm retarded, no the problem is him
>He's a schzio, yes, that's why I don't get him

>>16518653
In the sense that it is a stupid thread, it is saturating the name, and putting it in a direct opposition with Marx in a fictious story just to spark another argument. No one who read Evola would waste time with such a stupid jump off point.

>>16518670
>No one who read Evola would waste time with such a stupid jump off point.
They’re too busy masturbating to hentai and posting on incel sites

>>16518658
Don't point that beard at me, it might go off

>>16518658
Firstly, I never claimed to be an authority, I don't claim to be an Evolian or something like an armchair Marxist.
It is just honest advice, read him, because his most concise argument is in a book that is around 300s pages, and he makes a detailed analysis not conducive to a summary in a 4chan post.

You would feel insulted if someone took Marx from your quick rundown, wouldn't you?

This is the least believable story I've ever heard

>>16518679
I mean, if Marx and Evola have one thing in common, it's that their reader are absolute losers

>>16518679
See, you're revealing your intent even more.

>>16518691
>What's that?

>>16518568
>Visit local library
>display stand full of Marx/Lenin
>Clearly a politically oriented library
>Ask the clerk where Evola's books are
>Calmly responds, "Ebola? Yeah, I think we have a copy of The Hot Zone."
>"Uh...o-okay. Er, which, um, bookshelf?"
>Feel something warm trickling down my leg
>"Sir, I think you've just had an accident."
>Look down
>Pissed my pants
>Start to cry: "I just want my Evola!"
>Clerk looks concerned: "Who's Evola? Your mother? Do you need me to call your mother? Do you have a number I can call?"
>Run out the store, knocking over several shelves along the way
>Truly, this is the Kali Yuga

>>16518658
Based Marxchad dabbing on idealists

Marx: Makes so much sense retards here have to come up with schizo conspiracy theories like him being a Satanist or Zionist to not read him

>>16518711

You understand that "sense", objectivity, and efficiency have never been the factors that have driven humans in the majority, right?
What Marxists don't seem to understand, is that people have been having Religious experiences in every culture since the dawn of man, and reducing everything to the economy isn't enough for people.

Let me agree with you: Marx was right about capitalism.

But you know what? None of that matters, because my choice is: keep capitalism or join a bunch of freaks who also want to rip apart the family-unit and religion.

You can call it the flower on the chains, and call me delusional all you want, but it's my fucking belief, and that's obviously how the majority feels, or you would have crushed religion in the soviet union.

You will never, ever win, with your anti-religious stance, ever. Get god building.

>>16518701
I knew someone would say this, alright, let's say anyone reading them in 2020

>>16518739
Nobody wants to rip apart the family or religion you retard, stop getting all your opinions about Marxists from Youtube and talk to some irl.

>>16518605
>>and then everyone clapped
>You need to go back
You need to go back

>>16518638
>a people who content with being what they are
This clearly shows he is no historian. No one before modernity was ever content with their lot in life.

>>16518739
Religion only exists because of socioeconomic conditions. It will wither away, and should be stamped out. They don’t need their opiate any more under socialism

>>16518747
I literally just skimmed Marx's "On the Jewish Question" and his solution was abolishing religion.

>>16518747
How can you just like like that? Blatantly false on all fronts. Why aren't you utopian socialists then? WHy did you reject Fuerbach, what about the Bolsheviks and the rejection of God building I just mentioned. God so fucking disingenuous cunts.

>>16518747
t. liberal

>>16518747
See, look one just lying to win.

>>16518759
The other just repeating the same bullshit we all know and hate.

Fucking duality of marxists cunts.

>>16518760
He wasn't against religion but thought it juat wouldn't be needed anymore under socialism, which is true. East Germany for example didn't suppress religion and it just naturally decreased.

>>16518762
lie like that*

>>16518568
>Ask the clerk where Evola's books are
>>Calmly tells me he doesn't have any, and asks me to leave

Luckily you didn't ask for Stirner; he would have thrown you out bodily.

>>16518775
>East Germany for example didn't suppress religion and it just naturally decreased.
Sure it did, had nothing to do with the example set in Ukraine or anything

>>16518601
based

>>16518705
>Visit local library
>display stand full of Marx/Lenin
>Clearly a politically oriented library
>Ask the clerk where Evola's books are
>Calmly responds, "Ebola? Yeah, I think we have a copy of The Hot Zone."
>"No, I don't think you get what I'm saying, clerk."
>Feel something warm on my leg
>It's the girl that was in the store when I arrived
>She put her hands in my pants and she's started giving me a wank
>Probably got turned on by my aggressive masculine behavior, happens all the time
>Push her aside
>"Not now, whore"
>Jump on the clerk's desk in a singular smooth jump with both of my legs
>Adjust my tie and outstretch my arms towards the sky
>"I WANT MY EVOLA!"
>Clerk is scared shitless: "Who's Evola? I-I started last week, I-I'll look into the computer"
>"Useless pathetic weasel that you are, I'll come back in 72 hours, you better have it in store by then"
>Run out of the store, knocking over several shelves along the way (on purpose)
>Come home and watch some XRA with my mum

>>16518775
Remnants of exploitative and reactionary ideologies and cultural practices will not fade away over night and will still exist at the beginning of socialism. They should be suppressed. They’re superfluous and are hotbeds for counterrevolutionaries. Demolish the churches, mosques, synagogues, etc. Hoxha was right

>>16518793
How can you not see THIS is why we don't want to hear you, not the capitalism critique?
You are cultists.

>>16518793
Retard, that was Hoxha's worst plan. It didn't actually decrease religious practice it just made them do it in secret.

>>16518793
>We'll suppress you until you're free!
You fucking retard

>>16518793
lol ok be ready to be massacred by muslims before you even get close to that

>>16518705
You may be a dumb little bitch, anon, but at least you're funny.
>>16518711
I read Marx and he's wrong about everything except that capitalism is bad. Are you happy now, anon?
>>16518739
Are you dumb anon? Why would you be pro-capitalism just because commies suck? Are you really incapable of envisioning an alternative at all? Also please don't reddit space.
>>16518747
Read Marx retard lol

>>16518807
No bro their socioeconomic conditions will be met and they wont care when mecca is demolished

>>16518815
I have read Marx, he definitely didn't want to rip the family apart, and he wasn't against religion. When he says "Opium of the masses" he means opium like medicine, which it was at the time. It's a medicine to suppress pain. He also sees religion as what man strives to be.

>>16518595
magicke, homolust, and semen retention.
Wish I was kidding.

>>16518793
>counterrevolutionaries

AKA people who refuse to be slaves.

>>16518829
No more like people who do want to be slaves

>>16518797
>>16518805
>NOOOOO NOT MY FAIRY TALES THAT ONLY EXIST DUE TO MATERIAL CONDITIONS

>>16518831
Sucking off the party seems like pretty slaviesh behavior

>>16518829
t. proud wagecuck

>>16518822
Read him again lmao, the family is literally conceived as a bourgeois unit of economic oppression and exploitation and religion is the callous and manipulative force that uses social alienation in order to reinforce oppressive hierarchical top-down control. I am well aware of the full "opiate of the masses" quote and the "sigh of the oppressed soul" is by no means an argument for religion.

>>16518834
Sucking off porky is literally slavish behavior

>>16518824
Take your meds schizo

>>16518822
>When he says "Opium of the masses" he means opium like medicine, which it was at the time. It's a medicine to suppress pain
When the cause of pain is gone, you take away the opium. Stop coddling Christtards

>>16518847
The cause of pain is existence, retard.
The opium will always be needed

>>16518839
Right like I said he wasn't religious but he waslol against religion either.

Also yes he wasn't in favor of family as it currently existed but that doesn't mean he was against family. He was definitely against "free love" and the ilk too.

>>16518831
Au6thoritarianism is never justifiable, their political excuses are irrelevant.

>>16518856
Cool, now face the wall please.

>>16518853
Keep coping for being weak

>>16518793
Larp.

>>16518856
>Au6thoritarianism is never justifiable
Might is right, fag

>>16518842
Until I see you tankie fags killing them in the street youre larping like the rest of us

>>16518793
>Source: anyone who doesn’t agree to my circular logic, please ignore the world wars though.

>>16518833
explain to me how material conditions caused islam to spawn with muhammad

>>16518877
>>16518866
You’re not straight are you?

>>16518883
The source is Marx, one of the greatest minds to ever grace this Earth

>>16518855
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. He thought that religion is "okay" when it is crippled and irrelevant without any impact on human life - like the other Marxists after him. You're also completely wrong on the family as well, the idea was that children will be reared collectively and belong TO THE COLLECTIVE. Not to their parents. Not to a "family". To the collective.

>>16518902
I’m not here to educate you, sweaty

>>16518917
So just widescale cuckoldry

>>16518833
Wealthy and successful people are into all kinds of ridiculous beliefs. Maybe it's because they are manipulating people or maybe because they have their other needs met and are seeking out ways to cope with things that wealth still can't protect you from like mortality. Just some food for thought.

>>16518940
Basically, yeah. The model he and Engels used were "primitive communist" societies where all men fuck all women, no one knows which child is whose and women call the shots.

>>16518568
>visit local library
>start reading quietly
>some guy starts yelling gibberish
>the librarian calls the paramedics
>the guy is yelling louder, something about juice and europe

>>16518948
Hmmmm so the marxoids are the true return to tradition memers. Curious

>>16518954
I guess the guy was having a stroke, I was the only one in the library and the paramedics apologized to me.
They said the guy had a schizophrenic background and strokes were common, they still don't know how he left the asylum.
Perhaps he has retard strengh

>>16518962
This is where you read your Evola for context to see the differences between soulless matriarchal and materialist society on the one hand and heroic, spiritual patriarchal society on the other hand.
They are returning to a tradition, it's just the tradition of dissolution.

>>16518926
right, because its advent utterly refutes your entire worldview

but can we at least agree that evola was a good person whose heart was in the right place?

>>16518990
Muhammad was a schizo and yet still a product of material conditions and the culture around him, which did have Christians and Jews.

>>16518709
And then this nigga came around and dabbed on Marx so hard he's yet to be refuted.

Sorry, Marxcels.

>>16518603
that's Eliade

>>16518568
Marx is based af. My dad always yells at me for liking him so much but like sorry dad, I'm not going through med school like you to gain capital.

>>16518582
/pol/ doesn't know evola

>>16519260
Has one man ever generated such seethe?

>>16518833
You're just arguing that matter has coexisted with the birth of religion. So...nothing really

>>16518568
Based librarian

>>16519648
Read Marx, pseud

>>16519663
So I can still conclude that religion doesn't arise from material conditions? Btw I don't mean the quote that religion is the opiate of the masses, I mean the actual birth of religions like Christianity and their subsequent theology, not if people adhere to faith because their piss poor

>>16519729
*they're

>>16519058
blocks ur path

>>16518568
>My trip to Cuba