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1650901 No.1650901 [Reply] [Original]

All you Hard Determinists can suck a hard cock.

Watch this video of alfred mele god of philosophy at my school; some redemption for all you meek fucks wasting away and blaming your failures on "ahdurr iz have no free will"


LINK: http://bigthink.com/alfredmele#!video_idea_id=19233

>> No.1650924

All things are matter.

Matter follows strict and necessary conclusions of cause and effect.


>oh look this destroys all notions of free will regardless of how you wish to desperately justify free will

>> No.1650933

>takes three minutes to state "yeah there is no free will but we can't predict the future so we might as well call it free will"

>> No.1650944

>>1650924

>Matter follows strict and necessary conclusions of cause and effect.

lrn2quantumphysics

>> No.1650945

>>1650924
What about quantum mechanics, nigger?

You seem to think Free Will and Determinism are polar opposites. Indeterminism =/= Free will, chum.

>> No.1650954

free earl

>> No.1650961

>>1650945

I'm just saying that quantum physics prove that cause and effect logic is bullshit.

>> No.1650963

Why are so many fags here and on /sci/ so damn eager to have no free will? "Ooh! Ooh! A fledging branch of research has ambiguous results so there is no free will 'cuz SCIENCE!!"

If we live in a hard deterministic universe, you aren't deciding what to believe, anyway, so STFU

>> No.1650983

>>1650945
when you get to the point in your education where you have to actually understand quantum mechanics, you will know how little you knew of it before and how dumb you just made yourself look

trying going to school faggot i bet you cant even throw a football ROFL fucking loser get a virgin kiddo

>> No.1650987

>>1650924
>>All things are matter.

mfw energy

>> No.1650992

>>1650961
My post wasn't addressed at yours, homeboy. We were making the same point against that chump over there, nahmean?

>>1650954
Only one more year my man

>> No.1651001

>>1650987
>he thinks energy isn't just the relation between matter

>> No.1651014

>>1651001
lol you best be trolling

>> No.1651029

Hard determinism is false but still there is no free will.

>> No.1651032

>>1651029
dis eees truth

>> No.1651033

So how is my will free if it's caused by random quantum events?

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