/lit/ - Literature

>>16497972
Who the fuck even buys ebooks

>>16497974
me :)

>sales
>digital media

because people love the feel of books. flipping a page on an e-reader just isnt the same.

>>16497972
Reading is dominated by older people and women (assumption). Older people and women suck at technology (generalisation) and therefore tend to avoid it. E-readers are excellent - I'm reading far far more than if I had bought books because I don't have to wait for the hard copy to arrive. It's convenient, light, easy to take notes, cheaper, always lies flat, has an inbuilt dictionary, and there's tonnes of free classics. Absolutely excellent. I'll still buy a book if I'm sentimental about it and want a hardcopy. I'm not an Amazon shill - it's just one of those products which can actually had a big impact. Just make sure you turn the backlight off and reduce the font size.

>>16498068
>Just make sure you turn the backlight off and reduce the font size.

I keep my kindle at full brightness, and use default font. Is this bad in some way?

>>16498078
Nope kek. Just feels cozier with no backlight and quicker to read with a smaller font - you get used to it quite easily.

true, I switched to a Kindle when I was trying to read a book on my couch a couple years ago, but I don't have any lamps nearby, so could only read during the day, when the sun was shining through the window.. So I would be wide awake wanting to read at night while I was curled up on the couch, but couldn't make out the text. God damn it's so convenient. I don't even understand how people still use paper books. It's like people are stuck living in another century.

>>16498060
this

fragile

>>16497972
Why haven't escalators replaced all stairs?

>>16498258
because stairs are cheaper and easier to build and maintain. But ebooks are also cheaper and easier, so their superiority isn't even a question.

>>16497972
>bugman struggling to understand humans

>>16498282
Ebooks are cheaper, but ebook readers aren't.

Also physical books don't run out of batteries or get cracked screens.

>>16497972
why some stupid statement? why does your mom suck dick after anal?

>>16497972
because it's a preference
if you truly love books you will find that both forms have their merits
arguing about them is for idiots

>>16497972
I like having bookshelves with all my keepers on it. It's comfy and aesthetic, In fact I want to add a scroll or two some time soon, depending on how easily I can find good ones. Maybe a stone or metal tablet of some kind too, though that may be too impractical. Physical media just speak to me for some reason, I like holding books and turning pages. That being said, I do sometimes like digital for big fat cumbersome books, 1000+ pages or large dimensions etc, stuff that's hard to carry with you daily.

>>16497972
ebooks aren't anywhere near as lucrative as physical books, and I can write my ideas in the borders of physical books and act like me and the author are figuring things out together desu

Imagine spending money to buy countless books written by long dead authors and show off your shelf to a pack of autists on an anonymous imageboard.

>>16497972
I use both. Physical books when I want them on my shelf, for anything else ebooks.

Because the small market of avid readers that still exists are just as much into the aesthetic of being "book readers" as they are in reading books.

Then there's the general population. I think most people when they purchase a book, they do so because they want to read a specific book, not because they want to become avid readers. 10 euros for a book, imo, for them makes a lot more sense thab 100 for a kindle to read the book with the potential of reading other nonspecific books

>>16498078
>I keep my kindle at full brightness
What's the point then, you could then use a computer screen as well

>>16498386
I've found several cool books by browsing shelf threads, also got some lols occasionally. I still am not brave enough to post my own but maybe one day.

>>16498400
Imagine being this retarded

>>16498078
Don't know about the font (depends on how big or small it is), but higher brightness uses more battery.

>>16498366
>and I can write my ideas in the borders of physical books and act like me and the author are figuring things out together desu
You can't add notes in your e-book reader?

>>16497972
I've recently rediscovered the .pdf format
>standard formatting across any device and print
>all annotations notes and booksmarks are saved on file, so no amazon or iCloud jews to mess up my notes
>convertible and very flexible file format

Combined with a good pdf reading program its gold. Its the patrician tier way to read. My reading is much more involved and personal now


Tfw i find myself shilling for Adobe, a mortally corrupt company hellbent on destroying all good software

>>16497972
I dunno, maybe because people who own e-readers downloads books for free, while you consoome dead wood.

>>16497972
Just bought a Kindle today desu. It's very comfy. Much better than reading on my laptop.
What's the comfiest way to use one?
>>16498068
No backlight and size 1 font?
OR
>>16498078
Full brightness and default font?
OR
I only read for a few hours but I had the settings at Brightness:3 Font:3 IS that OK???

>an objective improvement over paper
yay another retard OP

>>16497972
It’s just nice to hold a book sometimes

>>16497972
Don't you read the thread about the guy who accidentally compared books to e-readers?

Yeah but dogs eat books
>>16498309

>>16497972
E-books are horrible to use in academy because the pages are all over the place, making it harder to cite sources and all that. Personally, I haven't bought an e-reader yet for this reason, considering that half the things I read are PDFs I use for studying. On the other hand, it makes reading foreign language literature a LOT easier, both because of piracy and how convenient it is to use the built in dictionaries.

>>16497972
Because not everyone is retarded. I don't want my entire life to exist on a hard drive. I want to actually own physical stuff and enjoy my awesome bookshelf. I want to lay in lamplight and read a real book.

>>16498309
>Ebooks are cheaper, but ebook readers aren't.
Buying ebooks kek

>physical books don't run out of batteries
You only need to charge it for 2 hours, and the battery lasts for weeks

>cracked screens
You know physical books aren't indestructible, right?

>>16498496
Yes you can MEGALUL

>>16498650
>harder to cite sources and all that
Instead of citing "page numbers" you can just copy/paste for verbatim now in hyperlinked "footnotes" since you don't have to worry about a limited amount of pages you can have. Much easier and useful me thinks

>>16497972
They never picked up. The technology just isn't there yet and there is no incentive to invest in it.

>>16498707
And you are 100% correct, but you also have to consider how many neanderthals there are on the academic world (both teachers and students) that just can't use anything besides paper/pdfs. And also, each country/institution makes you follow very specific rules to cite sources that may make it difficult for you to use e-books even if you know how to handle them.

>>16498114
Buy a fucking lamp, you idiot.

>>16498707
You don't get to choose how you cite work in a class. Use the page number and follow instructions or fail.

because e-books are not physical, therefore don't exist and it's equal to looking at an empty wall.

>>16498146
based & talebpilled

I enjoy the weight, smell, and feel of a real book. I also retain more information from them.
I understand the appeal of an E-reader, but my ADD hates them.

>>16499654
lol

>>16497972
Because you can't show to everyone on the train the super cool, big brain book you're reading if it's an ebook

>>16499086
...For the price of a Kindle

>>16499940
That is desirable

>>16497972
I love my kindle, have never read more sweet young adult books in my life.

The best things about ereaders are the built-in dictionary and not needing to position yourself under a light source.

>>16497974
>buys

>>16497972
>yearly book sales.
popular ereaders are good for mostly fiction where reading is done in mostly linear manner. Is yearly ebook sales just fiction literature or is it all books?

>>16498060
Yes, it is not the same, it is better.

>>16497972
The ereader tech is dominated by monopolies that kneecap the industry.

>>16498084
I have owned several kindles, older kindles without backlight and paperwhite is just so much better. I normally have mine at 14 light level/intensity during the day and possibly 4-10 in the evening/in the dark. It is way better than unlit models.

>>16498400
E-INK ISN'T THE SAME AS A LIT PIXEL YOU NIGGER!

>>16498410
>>16500032
>t. eyelets

>>16498258
Escalators are death traps

The patrician combination is
>ereaders for nonfiction so you can easily highlight and bookmark interesting fact or look up unfamiliar jargon
>physical paper for fiction for max comfiness

>>16497974
roasties buy their smut novels in ebook form

>>16500008
Elaborate pls. I wanna read about this

>>16497972
it feels much better to read a physical book, and the book is nice to keep on a shelf

>>16497972
Because when we're blasted back to the stone age I'll be glad I still have my physical books.
E-readers are pretty cool, though.

amazon shills pls go

>>16497972
I won't deny they're convenient, and I take mine wherever I go.
But holy fuck is it annoying when you want to flip back and refer to an earlier passage, none of the "intuitive" systems are worth a crap.
Not to mention the futuristic malaise of your *book* running out of *power*.

>>16500110
if that happens I'll be out there raping women or getting killed

>>16499969
For you

>>16500102
One example is the patents on e-ink screens. They limit what can be done with such screens or experimentatio

>>16497972
A few anons have already stated it but I personally love the feel of a physical book and it helps me better organize my reading. Also love hardcovers for the ability to keep them longer(I don’t manhandle shit)

>>16498366
based ebooks killing the classics racket. there's no reason to pay for a text written by somebody 300 years ago..

>>16498650
I like using my kindle along with the kindle app on my PC. I can read, highlight and make brief notes while on the go. Then I can go home and easily take real notes or reference the text from my PC for the assignment. Every other student in my economics class bought the physical textbook, which they have to hold and flip through while doing quizzes. I can just ctrl+f keywords and find the portion of the text being referenced in the questions. ezmode

Both, I use my e reader to pirate hundreds of books mainly fiction and self help books, physical for any book with beautiful illustrations and reference books

Ebooks
>more practical if you don't have much space or money (piracy)
>annotations are easier to keep track of
>Annoyance of not really owning the books you pay for in 90% of marketplaces. Hard to justify paying for digital media most of the time (if you're not forced to)
>instant delivery no matter if you pay or not
>Can end up spending too much time downloading instead of reading
>not having to deal with books you've already read in your physical space

Books
>Can create a comfy environment
>can share books in a more satisfying way
>the pleasure of secondhand finds
>tactile feel
>much better for reference works. Some types of books cannot work as ebooks at all (artbooks, lage formats etc)
>the design of each individual book and the far more varied fonts
>cover art is emphasized
>analog breaks can be their own form of satisfaction
>don't have to deal with crappily made devices or anticonsumer features on those devices
>less of a problem when you get mugged

I just hope the hardware improves, which is not a linear progression with what we've seen so far
The piracy aspect alone is a huge factor both in favor (convenience) and disfavor (killing already meager incomes) of ebooks

>>16497972
part of it is just the barrier of entry with the price of e-readers, another part is that a lot of people who read regularly are analog and just don't care to give e-readers a try. By far the most annoying take is "it just isn't the same is physically reading and ~smelling~ the book!!!" from people that haven't picked a book up in 3 years and are looking for excuses to not read.

>>16497972
E-reader are based as fuck. 'Cheap', easily available and you don't have to deal with bookstores and (((publishers)))

>>16497972
>Why haven't e-readers taken over physical books?
Because there is still some merit to having a nice physical book in your hands. Smells nice too. Personally I took the ereader pill because I like the portability, but I get it if someone has a nice library that they want to add to.
>e-books are only a fraction of yearly book sales
Because who the fuck buys ebooks? Boomers on Amazon are the only people who still pay for ebooks.

I feel like if I read a book on an ereader I haven't really read it

>>16499979
I buy the ebook to support the author. And because all I use my kindle for is genre-fiction, the author is almost always alive and depending on income.
Now, nonfiction books, that's another matter. I regret every penny I ever spent on a textbook

Ebooks should be free.

>>16500841
I have wonderful news for you.
>https://b-ok.cc/

>>16497972
Why not just read on my phone?

>>16500645
More like Cunny Kenningham

>>16497972
ITT mentally crippled adhd troglodytes cope with their affliction

>>16500977
BEHAVE

So, if I want to read reactionary theories from 1700's that Google has scanned and kindly put out for free, which e-reader should I choose? Do all of them let you open any (stolen) pdf or are some of them closed and you have to work through their stores?

I read about 80% of my books on a smartphone. Don't really care for an ebook mostly because even the small models are still too large for a pocket and I hate the idea of carrying a whole other device just to read. The other 20% of my reads are cheap as fuck paperbacks I get randomly in book stores, it's one of my consoomer joys and I'm not yet willing to part with it.

Which is the least harmful e-reader on your eyes, would be perfect if it can also have an internet browser for here and many other sites.

>>16500681
that's fetishism, anon. Or wanting to be seen as a "person who reads books"

>>16501203
any e-ink device will be the same for eye strain (none). The main differences will be in color in terms of display

>>16501203
>>16501496
afaik kobo makes a few of the cheper e-readers that have night mode, which basically makes the whites kind of orange and supposedly reduces eye-strain. I have a paperwhite and simply turning down the brightness makes night reading comfortable. Anon is right in saying that any e-ink device will basically cause no strain.

The big brain choice is to read an ebook first, then buying a really nice physical copy if you think it's worthy of being archived.

>>16497972
>They're an objective improvement over paper
Provide evidence to support your claim.

>>16500097
is no one else going recognize this?
Also, physical books for reading by candlelight until tired and ready for cozy sleep. Comf

>>16501834
idk I read fiction on a kindle and it's cozy to me. I can use one arm to hold it and flip pages while the other is tucked away. Also lighter than most books.

>>16497974
I used to but now I just use my library card more often than anything and get my books through an app.
Physical library books are fucking disgusting though.
Everyone should read digital and stealing ebooks is a victimless crime

>DUDE EBOOKS ARE TEMPORARY
>DUDE THINK ABOUT EMP STRIKES
>DUDE SMELL OF PAPER
>DUDE I RETAIN INFORMATION BETTER
>DUDE EYE STRAIN
When did you realise that /lit/ is populated by mental midgets?

>>16501912
Provide an argument to support your claim.

>>16501912
>When did you realise that /lit/ is populated by mental midgets?
always has been

Thinking about getting one, anyone have a recommendation? Kindle Oasis?

>>16501131
onyx boox poke 2

>>16501950
I honestly think you’re better off doing white on black on a tablet

>>16501950
PocketBook

>>16497972
>>16501912
It's been proven that people who read paper have higher retention rates of the information.

The only reason to use an e-reader is if you're a poorfag and just want to pirate your books.

>>16502041
eh, even being a poorfag isn't really an excuse. You can get paperbacks dirt cheap online

>>16502041
>It's been proven
No it hasn't. Please, for the love of God, stop being so retarded.

>>16502060
>No it hasn't. Please, for the love of God, stop being so retarded.
Is that really your argument? You say "No" and accuse the other person of being a retard? I recommend you stop posting here and crawl back to whatever shithole you came from, probably /pol/

There have been multiple studies showing ereaders are worse than paperback.
>Worse retention rates
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0883035512001127?via%3Dihub
>Ereaders before bed effects melatonin levels (melatonin levels effect memory formation)
https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/112/4/1232.full.pdf

>>16497972
Only a zoomer would buy an e-reader and think he actually read the book. Physical books will always be superior. It's basically the literary equivalent of film vs. digital.

>>16497974
Zoomers. No one else. You can never truly experience a book if you read it on a Kindle.

>>16502060
>No it hasn't.
It has been demonstrated in multiple studies and we have reasonable pedogogical explanations for why.

>>16501131
The thing about the kindle is it kinda sucks for PDFs. If it's all text Calibre should be able to convert it to MOBI and then it would be fine but for pdfs I prefer a tablet or even my phone or laptop over my kindle.
>>16502041
Sure, I agree with this desu. If the library was still open I never would have got the kindle but for some people they're really great. I can't get mail where I live and there aren't any bookstores either. Even if I were to get the books I"d have to haul them all the way out to my trailer and I'd have to really hope to get lucky in finding books I want to read. With the kindle I can literally google any book from the last 2500 years and read it at my leisure.
I suppose I'm a poorfag but I'd rather be a poorfag with some books than a rich fag with no books.

>>16502281
>You can never truly experience a book if you read it on a Kindle.
Bro please calm down... That's not even close to the truth. I usually just have to force myself to re-read certain passages if I didn't completely understand. It's not 100% as good as paper but it's probably 85%-90%

>>16502324
Cope. An e-reader is like watching a movie on your phone.

>>16502362

Bought the Kobo libra because of this thread and I don't regret it thanks anon

>>16502362
It's literally like watching a movie on your custom surround sound theater at home instead of in the theater but ok stay mad fucking cuck

>>16497972
I almost always read through an ebook version at least part way before I take the extra step to buy a physical copy. I don't wanna buy something I'm not going to enjoy or end up giving away without bothering to read through

>>16501203
Look into e-ink android tablets such as the Likebook or Boox types (you may need to do some extra research as it is a niche market)

No e-ink screen will harm your eyes. With the backlight off it feels almost identical to reading on paper

>>16501159
Tbh there are decent e-ink smartphones that came out this year

>>16502041
Those studies all involve regular computer screen. E-readers do not feel at all similar to computer screens when reading

>>16502830
>Those studies all involve regular computer screen
This is false.

>>16502847
You are just regurgitating The Shallows or some popsci article from the Guardian or some shit

>>16498642
Just don't have a stupid animal in your house

Onyx boox max 3

>>16498068
>keep backlight off
why? is reading a book in a dim room with a flash light actually harmful to your eyes? if not, then neither is a dim backlight

>>16498530
>>16498650
What are the best e-ink readers for PDFs? Some stuff I can't find in anything but this format but I don't want to be reading on a regular screen.

>>16502958
If it's text based calibre can convert it to MOBI or Epub or whatever.
If it's graphical in nature I'd reccomend the Onyx just cuz it's the largest eink display available atm

>get about $100 to burn looking into the idea of getting an ebook reader
>can buy a kindle for 100 something dollars in 2020 that can't do anything besides read ebooks or buy the most recent kindle fire 10 for slightly more that can do normal tablet shit and also comfortably read e-books
Why the fuck would I buy the e-book reader

For a long time I used my iPad as an e reader then switched to a kindle. Reading e ink is far superior to a screen. Especially at night, not good to stare at a screen before bed.

>>16502974
The based e-ink display

>>16502974
e-ink with backlight turned off wont give any eyestrain

>>16497972
I am a luddite myself, but even I primarily read ebooks, buying physical copies only of those that I wish to collect. All arguments like "oof pressing the buttons is too much work" are just plain stupid, this technology is the equivalent of the printing press for our times, I have read such medieval and early modern works finding which in physical form would have been very difficult, and expensive as well, and unlike as from a library, I have these books with me forever, and unlike physical books, I get them for absolutely zero money. Also I have read books illustrated with good old illustrators like Dore, which wouldn't have been possible for me otherwise, either because of difficulty in finding the suitable editions, or their being too expensive. Your arguments against ereaders are the modern equivalent of "I could never read printed books, I always want my books to be unique, with the thought that a scribe spent so many hours hunched over in candle light just to prepare this volume for me", or "lmao look at that poorfag reading that mass produced printed book, that's what separates them from us patricians".

>yet another ebook vs physical book thread

midwits think it is a question of either/or and will either read all books in ebook format or buy every single book they ever wanted to read; the obvious solution which would have been clear to anyone with a modicum of intelligence is to consider various factors like convenience, availability, purpose etc. for a book and buy or download accordingly

>>16503625
>>16503657
stop spamming

>>16500841
All the books that actually matter are legally free
https://www.gutenberg.org/

>that faggot shill that posts onyx boox max 3 in every thread

i will NEVER buy your product

>>16502041
>believing social "scientists"
read more bro

>>16503664
I just want to make my voice heard

>>16503679
>Dismissing someones argument based on their profession and not the argument itself
educate yourself

>>16497972
because the moment i bought i tablet, i stopped buying books, and instead got them all for free like i do my music, tv shows and movies

>>16497972
hipsters, same as why records are still used instead of FLAC - more likely though it's a mixture of nostalgia and pretentiousness

>>16497972
They are useless. I read everything from smartphone in pdf format, my ebook and my tablet are long forgotten.

>>16500056
haha we all have seen the same videos

>>16500864
SOMEONE GIVE THIS MAN A COOKIE~!

>>16500924
I think the phone's light is a problem.
Also the battery, and I guess the feel?
No distractions whatsoever

>>16501305
I didn't mean it in the sense you understood

They're great for comfy, pleasure reading, but you can't exactly read anything complex or technical on it. Sure, there's in-built dictionaries and limited note-taking, but I'm not exactly going to read Kant or some research paper while laying down and/or on the beach.

I always prefer e-books, but I prefer using the computer since you can multi-task. It would be great if regular smartphones and computer monitors had the ability to switch to an e-ink mode, but a dedicated device with e-ink is usually fairly limited and expensive.

>>16505703
there are e-ink monitors and smartphones and tablets that can serve as monitors, but they tend to be very expensive

bump

Explain how you read e-readers? I find it hard to read on non-paper.

>>16497972
All I do is just skim bibliographies, grab books from Libgen, Archive.org & random Google sites, then put each of them on tts at 1.50x speed using @Voice. Regex is awesome.

Kindle Oasis here for about a year now. I am going to sell it. I now use an OLED phone with background set to black and text set to pure red. This allows me to read it at night with literally zero bluelight and also keep modern e-reading software that blows eink readers out of the fucking water.

Moon+ Reader automatically reveals new text as you read so you don't have to click/swipe anything. And you can integrate as many dictionaries, wikis, sources etc right into it. Also, you can use advanced TTS engines. And I have a headphone jack, so I am not stuck with just bluetooth if I need a passage read to me.

Take the OLED pill. Remember, PURE BLACK background with PURE RED text = ZERO bluelight. I was fucking shocked at how comfortable this was.

Literally more superior than an Oasis because their gay red light still has blue light in it. Also, it lights the entire fucking screen instead of the specific pixels that have text in them.

Eink is a fucking meme. And these newer OLED phones work great in sunlight if you turn on adaptive brightness. Just set BG to white and bold your text. I have a matte screen protector so it's fucking perfect.

>>16500099
roastie here, where can I download my smut novels and do you have any recommendations for smut novels?

>>16506624
Only motherfucker who knows what he talkin about here.

all of the cyborgs and shills will criticize me, but the tactile feel of the printed book, the smell of the pages, the beauty of typesetting, nice photos (where applicable), being able to instantly flip through pages, and the ability to easily annotate all are crucial to my learning and enjoyment of a book. printed books are far superior. the UI for a kindle is terrible for any kind of engagement other than glazing your eyeballs over the screen, and reading a book from a ereader or even your computer monitor has the tendency to reduce it into a chaotic mess. the absurd amount of choice (usually a positive) also becomes a chore, as you can get most ebooks that are worth reading for free. the freedom of choice isn't like music where i can listen to many songs and find them enjoyable, it just causes me to read a bunch of books poorly and move on too quickly. at least with a printed book i have to make a real choice by spending money, or deal with the deadly late fees of the library

>>16506624
Yes, use a computer with internet access to read your hentai. That is what you're using it for, I assume. Nobody with sense would ever use such a ridiculous contrast of media requiring maximum attention and lack of distraction with potentially the most distracting device of all human history. You people are mentally ill.

>>16506668
I am sorry you have no fucking self control, but I don't use any social media apps and when I read, I put on Do Not Disturb mode which basically is equivalent to having your phone off / in airplane mode.

Cope harder, scrooler.

>>16502281
>>16502324
He's right, one may only truly experience a book with a Kobo

>>16506699
We have many studies showing that it does not matter whether you have exemplary self-control. The fact that it is at all available is distracting alone. We know that willpower is a finite resource.
I'm sure that you're not mentally challenged. You know very well that you can always press a few buttons and then you're on 4chan. Your willpower is drained due to this. Your ability to make your best decisons wanes. This is not an opinion, so do not respond to me as if it is. I'm also not responding to you after this as I now know you're not knowledgeable. I do not care if you educate yourself. I'm posting this for others to see.
These threads are usually populated by people addicted to consuming products. They do not care about reality. I'll leave you to your willful ignorance.

Like 80% of my reading is on a screen, but there have been studies showing that the tactile experience of a thumbing through a codex aids your ability to recall the information you read, since it creates more cognitive associations by engaging more of your senses.

I think we all subconsciously understand that the experience is difference, but have trouble articulating why that is, so we just say that paper books are more romantic.

>>16502119
>studies
>first link is just some dumb fuck statistical data
You do realise that the magic of statistics is that with enough polling I can prove that people who pick their nose have a higher chance of dying from cancer, or any other two wholly unrelated things? Without the theoretical foundation, statistics are worthless. You have to demostrate the mechanism by which reading the from the e-ink screen somehow lowers comprehension versus a printed page, otherwise you're just rolling dice.

>>16506644
Industrial Society and Its Future

>>16506624
The whole idea is to read without the backlight, so no light at all

Reading red text on a dark background can't possibly be ideal for your eyesight

>>16497972
>yet e-books are only a fraction of yearly book sales

>>16497972
e-books are overpriced (like $1 off a regular book wtf) so as not to price-out and destroy the physical book market.

>>16507440
The reason peoples eyes are fucked is cause they look at pure white screens and those screens do not match the ambient light.

Red text on oled black matches your ambient much better than a backlit e-ink reader that lights up the entire screen with a mix of blue/red light.

>>16506782
COPE SCROOLER. I managed to get out of it. I have literally zero apps installed except an e-mail with notifications disabled.

>>16498698
>btfos everyone
I still like reading normal books tho

>>16500770
What you should do is buy the paper book for decorations and read the ebook for free. Because if the book is shit you did wrong by giving your money to your author

>>16502046
>first worlder
Fuck you

>>16508422
I don't own a mobile phone. Stop calling me a "scrooler".

>>16508444
My hands get tired holding normal books open and reading the beginning and end where the pages are hard to hold

>>16497972
>yet e-books are only a fraction of yearly book sales.
well thats why. i pirate all my ebooks.

>>16508510
>>16508422
scrool more

>>16501622
this is what i do

>>16497972
>Buying (((techonology)) that has a reasonable lifespan of 5 years max, 3 years average that costs nearly 100USD, requires power to operate, and needs an internet connection to "buy" the "license" to read a book.

>>16497972
A few reasons
>Every book is at cover price, no 99 cent goodwill best sellers.
>Can't really read poolside. Paper sucks if it gets wet, but so does an e-reader
>Poor PC apps provide normies with a bleak introduction to e-readers
>the feel of a book as opposed to a long PDF.
>Controversial books can be difficult to find.

kindle paperwhite is all you need

>>16498114
>It's like people are stuck living in another century.

You the one without a lamp

>>16510440
hehe the ol' reddit switcharoooo

>>16506644
slsk

>>16497972
because I don't suck tech companies cocks and I buy used books because they are cheaper. If they are meh I just resell them.

>>16506435
Based

>spend all day on a computer at work

last thing i want to do is spend more time staring at a screen. its the same reason i keep a paper journal/agenda and handwrite notes and things

>>16498060
This. The smell too, if you don't sniff your books you have no soul

>>16497972

>>16498302
based

Does pic related work as a better ebook

>>16503625
>this technology is the equivalent of the printing press for our times

>>16498698
>You only need to charge it for 2 hours, and the battery lasts for weeks
Still can't beat a medium that "works" as long as there's enough light to read...

>>16497972
Reading on a screen is slower than reading on paper.

>>16513222
I downloaded it from piratebay and its readable, but it takes a bit of getting used to with the footnotes and such. One good thing most e-readers have is the integrated dictionary, so you can look up the obscure words DFW uses on the fly.
The footnotes thing might be more intuitive on paid versions of the ebook as opposed to the pirated one I got, can't confirm though.

>>16497972
because they're fucking gay

I respect books, but I move around too much to keep a physical collection up anymore.
never hauling 700lbs of books up a flight of stairs ever again.

I'm not a learned bibliomancer, though, so I've never needed to jot spells down in my margins, and ebook piracy is easy as hell

>>16497972
they're cheaper as well, got the entire works of shakespeare, fyodor dostoevsky and hp lovecraft for the equivalent of $3.50 on amazon deals, make fun of people all you want but if you can't comfortably afford to spend 3 bucks on a hobby you enjoy you probably have more serious issues you should focus on in life like actually getting a job

>>16501203
if your a spoilt rich fag like me I'd say the kindle oasis.
it's not to much of an improvement over the paperlite (which is less than half the price) BUT it's more comfortable to hold, has a slightly wider screen (7" from lites 6") but the best thing it has is warm lighting that automatically adjusts to the dark, I've never had eye strain reading it for hours solely in the dark but its usually $300+ so it depends on whether you really feel like sinking that much into an ereader

>>16500770
>he reads books written by people who are still alive

>>16515033
>spending money on 0s and 1s

>>16497972
People prefer physical books because they feel more comfortable, and you can read at any time. I suggest everyone uses the two, e-readers are amazing.

>>16497972
i only use my e-reader.
but
i'm also aware all the books i "bought" from amazon are merely only long term rentals that amazon can remove or block me from reading at any time

Ebook Pros:
>Easy to use endnotes, just click the note and read it instead of flipping to the end of the book
>Quick dictionary for words you're unfamiliar with (this doesn't help much to build vocabulary unless you write the words down though)
>Can store hundreds of books in a smaller space than one paper book. Perfect for travelling
>Some readers have backlit screens, letting you read easier in areas with less-than-ideal light
>Pirating. Get all your books for free, never take books away from others who would read them.

Ebook Cons:
>Battery life. They usually last quite a long time, but the fact it can die is something that paper books have over it
>No physical sense of progression that you're moving through a book. All you see in the ebook is a percentage counter increase, whereas a paper book lets you see and feel that you're moving along it.
>When pirating, the spacing can be all fucked up if you got a bad copy. I think this can be fixed in Calibre setting but I haven't been able to do it.

In general, I use ebooks when I'm out of the house and for longer, more complex books (or ones with lots of endnotes). I use paper books for easy reads at home.