/lit/ - Literature

Brainlets? Midwits? Pseuds?

Any of you here?

>>16434832
Idk if he's right. I really enjoy Schop, but I should probably read his list.

Where is he buying books for pennies?


I need more books I'll never read.

>>16434832
>--
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dios mio...

Better educated at what?

>>16434832
>furnish your mind with power

Cringe. This guy is a pseud

>>16434832
I can’t take someone who writes like that much of a retard seriously

>left click
>hide thread

>>16435121
No pls dont

>>16434832
Where do I get the free poetry only paying shipping?

I don't think some flowery locutions on the splendor of greenery compares at all to DMT or any reasonably potent entheogen, sorry.

>>16434832
so does he explain at all what it is he thinks you gain from these readings?

>>16434832
reddit daedalus

>>16435390
>explain
lmao, his whole grift is making vague allusions and hinting at being smart, not explaining anything

I said, certified freak
Seven days a week...
WET ASS PUSSY
Make that pull-out game WEAK

>>16434832
STOP FUCKING POSTING THIS FUCKING PSEUD, BY GOD, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU NIGGERS

>better educated
>writes shitty self-published meme-book
what did he mean by this? is this all that better education can accomplish?

guppy >>>>> bap >>>>>>>> logo >>>>>> cuntbot

Fuck you, logo. You got forever rekt by a cryptofaggot brit

https://im1776.com/2020/09/11/far-from-the-sun-selfie-suicide-review/

>>16434832
He's mostly right, most plebs these days severely underrate English literature, but I still think everyone should read Hölderlin and Schopenhauer.

>>16435429
-t hasn't read the canon

>>16435459
based guppy

>>16434832
Yes, he's correct, but most of you won't understand either the English or the Germans so you'll read the ones that can make you sound smarter, but plebhood is your eternal doom.

>>16435030
he's probably talking about 99cent ebooks. I don't recommend them though they are usually very bad translations with fucked up formatting. The sweet spot is the 2-9 dollar ebooks.

>>16435533
>>16435030
at that point just download from archive.org

>>16435547
this anon knows

Medieval book aesthetics were kino beyond kino

>>16435533
>paying for bits filled with public domain content

>>16434832
Yes, but it's less to do with the english canon vs the german idealists, and more to do with just reading fiction and enjoying art rather than reading non-fiction and philosophy which, most likely, will do absolutely nothing for you

>>16435576
low iq

>>16435576
I seem to remember that one Nietzsche quote where he glorified the fuck out of fiction and said it was appreciated by those who had lived and experienced the most, who had known pain and suffering.

>>16435600
Can anyone shed any light?

>>16435624
no one cares about your pseud quote retard

>>16435583
No, faggot. You're readings of marx, evola, heidegger, hegel, schopenhauer, and whoever else have done nothing to enrich your life or understanding in any meaningful way. It has been for nothing. Open a book of poetry, the canterbury tales, or play a classical record, and watch your life truly transform

In all seriousness reading just the faerie queen would probably raise the average /lit/izens IQ by at least 10

Lit has for too long been in the vice like grip of Philopseuds.

We must reclaim this board for LITERATURE.

>>16435698
Amen

>>16434832
i know plenty of /lit/anons have argued for this before. you should be, first and foremost, familiar with your own canon

>>16435437
100 % correct

logo steals lit take

>>16435459
did he ever respondL?

>>16435459
holy based

>>16435494
gupi is cringe
tony get ur son in order

>>16434832
>>16434832
>Should English speakers furnish their mind with the English canon, instead of wasting their time with German idealists?
Emerson lamented the Anglo/French imitations in arts and letters for lack (or forgetfulness) of American culture in his day, and little has changed -- one has to assimilate one's own canon first, and in the American anglophone's case, there are more than a few to be with first before even approaching the literary shores of the tongue's motherland

>>16435459
>one gets the sense that Daedalus is constantly on the precipice of saying something insightful or interesting without ever actually getting around to saying it.

STOP BULLYING HIM

>e-celeb thread

>>16434832
As someone who has (mostly) done this: Shakespeare, Chaucer and Donne are the only ones worth reading in their literal entirety.

More importantly, you should read Golding's Metamorphoses, the Eneados of Gavin Douglas, and the translations of Marlowe.

Milton is worth reading solely to see how mediocre canonical poetry can be.

>>16435918
Call me a brainlet, but I find it difficult to comprehend old shit.

>>16435818
Yes. He told him to read it again. Guppy responded something akin to “I’m the only one who took your book seriously and talked about it” lmao

>>16435939
damn... how the fuck does one recover from that?

>>16434832
He is not wrong.
But better yet would be to start with the Greek, study the Romans and finish with Aquinas.

>>16435039
honestly. just use en and em dashes like a normal person for fucks sake

>>16435557
more like kino beyond legibility

>>16434832
A truly smug person would say to learn ancient Greek and Latin and then read the classics in the original text. What a pseud.

>>16434832
Didn't know he was this retarded, but his english lit is pretty good, standard, but good
Literally every english phd has read those btw

>>16435459
Lol guppy was begging fatbot to shill his book last week

If I were the author of selfie suicide, I would be working every day to build a time machine to go back in time and kill myself. Maybe society will explode and his book will be lost forever (he should pray for this). If not it’s only ~70 years of mockery until he gets to die. For me, it’s $15 I will never, ever get back.

I unironically use to go to /r/cringe daily to my dose of cringy shit now i just go to this dudes twitter
Reminds me of how embarrassing i was when i was abusing adderall

>>16437416
He seems lost. He is too wrapped up in being a pseud to ever take a definitive stance on anything, always preferring the moral high ground than to risk committing to something.

BAP brigades made quick work of him and Fatbot.

>>16435772
>your own canon
If by 'your own canon' you mean the canon which you have personally chosen, made up of works from various languages and cultures, that you think will be best for your artistic or personal development then I wholly agree.

>>16435918
>Milton is worth reading solely to see how mediocre canonical poetry can be.
Fuck you I enjoy reading Milton more than Shakespeare.

>>16434832
This dude is only 21, he will grow out of it. Also why hasn't KB taken up Matt Christman for his debate offer yet?

>>16435547
No, gutenberg.org or standardebooks.org

>>16434832

He didn't mention it explicitely, but it's true that Goethe is trash. We just pretend he was a great writer so Germans can think they also have their Shakespeare, Dante, Cervantes and be happy.

>>16438285

The Dante of Germans was Luther's Bible.

>>16438285
>he didn't read Goethe in German
To make it clear to your tiny angloid brain, it's akin to reading a translation of Shakespeare.

>>16438247
Fatbot would get humiliated.

Not because Chapofags are good debaters, but because he will flip flop and refuse to commit to anything.

>>16435869
>>one gets the sense that Daedalus is constantly on the precipice of saying something insightful or interesting without ever actually getting around to saying it.
Funny. Reminds me of Bronze Age Mindset

>>16438247
>This dude is only 21,
Ah, now I see

>>16438247
I thought KB was still shunned for trying to dox BAP

>>16435918
>Criticizing Milton and leaving out Spenser
Yep, I found the contrarian

>>16434832
If you ever thought BAP was anything beyond a milquetoast neocon republican you are an idiot. Literally a psyop to make being a “young conservative” seem sexy instead of incredibly lame. The shit he said about evo morales made should have tipped anyone off.

>>16438378
Yeah he's a tedious tryhard. His schtick is so fucking embarrassing. It's amazing that it's worked on the 16yr old zoomers who make up most of his audience, let alone grown-ass adults who should know better. I guess that's what happens when you're a 35 millennial who wants to seem hip - you end up praising stupid shit like brain damaged political propaganda aimed at teens who post epic blackpill memes

>>16438378
Lol shut up leftist

>>16438378
>>16438392
These two posts were made by Logo and Kantbot.

I am not English but I speak only English. What should I do?

>>16438410
>BUTBUTBUT BASED BAP TOTALLY MAKES THIS TWITTER PERSON SOOO WET! BASED BAP I HOPE HE FUCKS MY WIFE! BAP! BAP! BAP!
Lmfao
subjecting yourself to an MKULTRA diet of psyop memes for years turns you into a r*tard whose only value is being a node in deploying more psyops through your social network. Memes were a mistake.

>>16438434
This. Engaging in perpetual psyopping of yourself is escapism-- it's a Romantic endeavor which elevates the banal reality (you're posting gay fucking memes about jews & blacks on the internet)-- into a "Secret Heroic Crusade" that is attacked from all sides! It's fucking EPIC

>>16438425
Embrace being a monolingual monkey and be smug about it.

>>16438425
Learn the language of your forefathers, you'll need it.

>>16438434
>>16438446
>Leftshit

>>16438434
>>16438446
Still coping over the fact that Anna and Dasha hate you viscerally? At least Anna was civil, Dasha openly humiliated you publicly. By the way when is the book coming out KB? Are you afraid it will get panned like logo's cringe undergrad essay did?

>>16434832
we need a thread about a sperg book-signaling on twitter why?

Why are we talking about Twitter on 4chan? If you want to talk about Twitter, there's a whole website dedicating to it.

>>16438462
My forefathers were Rusyn and their language is dying from assimilation with the Ukrainians, who deny it is a language. Most of the Rusyns do not live in Ruthenia. They had to escape from Ukrainian intervention after WWII. I don't think they produced many literary works, because they were an agrarian people. Maybe I should just learn Czech or Slovak.

>>16438378
>>16438392
BAM is hilarious though

>>16438504
Whatever frees you from the chains of monoglotism my friend.

>>16438475
Doesn't matter. Redscare's audience adores Kantbot and hates BAP

>>16438508
maybe 4 years ago. He's been a complete shill ever since his book came out and exposed his true colors. He was always a tedious tryhard with his homo babytalk tweets but occasionally had something somewhat interesting, but not anymore

>>16438475
>le based black and white german face avatar
How much do you want to bet he's a fat fuck?

>>16436697
>missing the point this fucking much

>>16438475
Except that Dasha loves Kantbot and went on his podcast
>https://www.patreon.com/posts/episode-14-w-37085281

>>16438522
>>16438530
This is KB posting.
>>16438546
They both shit on you on twitter and on reddit lol. No one likes your fat faggot ass. Good god I wretched just typing that out.

>>16438554
based Kantbot keeping true to himself and burning bridges with grifters

>>16438557
based kb doxing those that promoted him and having sustained mental breakdowns every 2 weeks

Pretty damning (though not unexpected) that nobody is interested in addressing the question, or literature at all for that matter, and are far more concerned with faggy twitter drama and little political movements. None of you will ever make it, you're just like normies. Faggots.

>>16438563
you're the faggot here logo

>>16438561
It's BAP who's acting like a prissy faggot with his passive aggressiveness. Logo and KB could've exposed so much more about BAP but they're respectful people

>>16438570
lose some weight fatbot, i give you 6 months before your latest fat fetishist perfume boyfriend is deemed a traitor and must be doxed

Regardless of how you feel about Fatbot, he changed his whole persona as soon as he started mixing with leftwing grifters.

I don't blame him, leftwing audiences are more reliable and likely to pay for content than rightwing ones.

Also, being an esoteric rightwing internet personality basically dooms you to being an outcast in fashionable coastal crowds.

>>16438561
Mental breakdowns? Huh? What?

>>16438580
Was that pic supposed to prove your point? Just makes Kantbot look more based. Kanbot's internet activity just seems so much more masculine than BAP's passive aggressive feminine energy

cant you twitterniggers take this elsewhere? im trying to fap

>>16438585
>guy shifts towards the leftwing as he becomes more educated
Huh. curious

>>16438598
if your friends with KB can you ask him why he thinks 'HBD is bullshit'. I mean seriously look at africa, the caribbean, every single place they exist, come on.

>>16438590
kb melted down after all his friends ditched him over him doxing his "competition," quite pathetic for a mid 30s failed economist yuppie

it will be very funny when he finally turns on logo and kills himself, looking forward to it!

>>16438609
>HBD is bullshit
HBD? Huh? Sorry what's that?

>>16438614
Brainlet.

>>16438614
'human biodiversity'. For the purposes of this conversation just think of it as 'racism', ie. 'sub-saharans are on average dumber than whites and east asians' for a very broad gist.

>>16438608
It's just rodents shipjumping and you're more than welcome to them.

>Just makes Kantbot look more based. Kanbot's internet activity just seems so much more masculine than BAP's passive aggressive feminine energy

>>16438622
could post exactly what % of crime is caused by blackness?

>>16438633
Idk what you're asking me and I don't care about having another 50 post discussion about race on here, I am just curious why he thinks it's bullshit, so if you're on twitter and know him post something about it

>>16438632
hey costin

>>16438632
Lmao Leftists are so fucking ugly lol why do they always morph into that sack of potatoes look?

>>16438640
no study says x% of crime is statistically proven to be caused by race alone, only that crime rate is higher, which isn't in dispute. Its conclusion calls for cultural change, suggesting culture causes crime, not race.

>>16438644
again dude, not interested. These discussions literally take 3+ hours

>>16438644
what a bitch ass nigga. tryin to work for da whyte man when he can be trappin out da benz and runnin trains on hos

>>16438646
Nah it's really that simple unless you just want to post "epic" 13/50 memes to drag out the argument to the thread limit

>>16438648
So you don't think people are influenced by their parents and environment? Got it.

>>16438650
We have to go through the whole past 50 years of IQ literature among other things, believe me I have done this and it takes forever every single time. In 90 minutes we'll be discussing whether the null hypothesis applies to biological populations and I just don't have it in me.

>>16438660
nah nigga we got culture and you whyte bois been ridin a niggas dick

>>16438666
Epic meme fellow groyper! Praise kek!

>>16438643
>leftist
more like a grifter contrarian that went from hanging with nazis then rebranding as a cringegod to curry favor with brooklyn podcasters that love bap

>>16438285
Goethe is a better writer than Shakespeare and more important.

>>16438673
come through and well leave yo bitch ass bleedin on cement

What a fucking awful thread. I despise Zoomers.

>>16438689
kantbot is pushing middle age

The only thing more pathetic than BAP or whatever his name is are his retarded followers who save his twitter conversations and post them on /lit/. Thread hidden

>>16438723
bye kb

>>16438675
Even Goethe said otherwise

>>16435557
Uhh, guys?

>>16435557
can't read a single word

>>16434832
>DMT
>powerful
Englishfags confirmed pseuds.

>just list names of guys instead of anything of substance
>have a contrarian/"radical" ('ate Nietzsche 'ate Hegel love Blake and Shakespeare simple as) opinion about what books people should read to drum up clicks
I hate how much of a pseud he is. There is so little substance. I like the way he trolls people sometimes, but I wish he would actually say meaningful things instead of just stir the pot. It's not literature to make people mad on Twitter, it's fucking activism.

>>16435640
single digit iq poster

>>16435698
Dangerously based. I agree.

>>16435698
Philosophy posters read better literature than the literature retards on this site who mostly talk about Kafka and other 20th century hacks

that you should read the best your language offers is a common truism, but to power through every word of every canonical renaissance writer is a move of either a specialist or a middlebrow retard

anyway it's ironic coming from fatbot's chinlet sidekick because his abortion of a book reads exactly as an attempt of a theorycel whose frame of reference for fiction is only Nabokov and burgerpomo

>>16435030
b-ok.org

Thank me later.

>>16435533

So they're bad translations of English works? I mean I think the guy in the screencapture is just talking about the great English works. So I don't get how they are bad translations. I just use Gutenberg even though I don't really read anything on the laptop anymore.

>>16434832

>>>/tv/139817299

This a good reason to read the classics?

>>16434832
>waste your time reading anglo trash
thanks but no thanks

Pretty good list of English writers to know, except
>George Chapman
What?? The man is literally only known for Homer translations nobody reads anymore and an unneeded ending for Marlowe's Hero and Leander.

>>16436445
>>16439124
If you know Gothic letter-forms, this copy is actually pretty easy to read compared with a lot of Middle English texts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackletter#Forms

>>16438612
obsessed and delusional

>>16435459
>>16435939
Jesus Christ.

>>16438378
I have not been on twitter in a while and I do like BAP but that Morales shit was wack and gay, it is true.

>>16438475

I have no stake in this Twitter faggotry other than observing, but it’s hilarious that BAP is ‘successful’, when he basically stole everything from icycalm. The truth will come out eventually. Also, pretty sure Logo and Kantbot abuse meth all day, assuming that they’re honest when they make claims about the quantity of their reading.

>>16441094
>basically stole everything
Not really, beyond the superficial level of aping nietzschean aphorisms

>>16434832
Sorry but none of those writers convey and truly profound ideas in their work. They are beautiful works in their own right but they don’t serve the same purpose as the things he is saying are just memes. Read all of them

>>16441122

It’s the same shit.

>>16438612

I thought kantbot was under 30

>>16441177
Nope just superficially similar

>>16434832
>Is he right? Should English speakers furnish their mind with the English canon, instead of wasting their time with German idealists?
No that guys an absolute fucking retard.

Read the German idealists and poets, AND the English poets.

>>16439088
He was a modest man.

>>16434832
Sounds like a hot take

>read the collected works of Chaucer, Spenser, Shakespeare, Chapman, Sidney, Donne, Johnson, Milton, Wordsworth, Blake, Byron, Keats, Shelly...
Literally who would disagree with this? I would only quibble Johnson and add Tennyson. But surely anyone would profit from reading all of the above. And I can't disagree that you would be better off reading this at the expense of the 20th century continental philosophers we have rammed down our throats every day.

>>16434832
The bare directive to read your own language's canon is, of course, good advice. However, upon receiving it I would be tempted to ask if the one giving it had accomplished this feat himself, given his pontification about the profound effects that completing it would deliver.

>>16434832
Sorry, I don't want to contaminate my mind with Anglo gibberish

>>16441601
If you're reading and writing English here on a regular basis then you're already infected.

>>16441601
>he's never read Chaucer, Spenser, Shakespeare, Milton, Keats, or Shelly

>>16435039
wait til you read his book!
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>>16442142
This used to be a normal way of writing "and" in the past ("et cetera" was also written "&c") probably to save on printing costs.

>>16442168
Yeah it’s acceptable with published authors over a hundred years ago, not a methed up chinlet on Twitter that can’t even write a coherent or interesting e-book.

>>16434832
Twitter “guys”, ladies and gentleman:

>>16442199
If one wiſhes to reſurrect obſolete orthography, they ſhoul uſe the long ſ as well.

>>16442215
Sam Hyde needs to shutter his project mayhem. He's going to ruin these young boys' lives.

>>16434832
Too BASED for this board.

>>16434832
I see his point, but if he thinks "not a single PhD" has read the collected works of his list, he's mistaken. Heck, I think Shakespeare's the only one on that list I haven't completed, aside from some Milton prose.