/lit/ - Literature

>>16407839
feels weird seeing this meme chart i made 2 years ago

Depressed people are mentally and thereby physically unable to read. If you are able to read, then it follows that you are not depressed.

>>16407839
You're probably eating like shit. Look into raw primal diet, mainly the both books
>We want to live
>Recipe for Living Without Disease
Both from Aajonus Vonderplanitz.
The colors will come back.

>>16407839
I read Harry Potter fanfic if I ever feel like I want to read something for pleasure when I'm in a funk. Bugman take, I know. But it takes me to my childhood, into a world that all must admit is very comfy. And fanfic reading/writing consumed my high-school years; I feel like a kid when I do it.

Rooting for you OP. We're all gonna make it.

Go to the gym or go running 3x per week, make sure you are getting 7-9 hours of sleep per night, eat less sugar and get all your micronutrients, and spend at least a few hours per week in the company of friends.

This is not what most people want to hear because it requires action but I believe much of the listless depression common to this generation is due to lifestyle factors. Obviously if you have legitimate chemical disorders seek help but self care will put the fire back in your heart and the color in your eyes, and reading will feel good again.

>>16407839
Get some CBD it's been helping me a lot unironically.

>>16407839
>Deleuze and Guattari
>bloomer

D&G are as blackpilled as it gets

>>16407856
>>16407900
Any resources on how to eat healthily when you have food sensitivities to most fruits and vegetables (either supplements or methods to get over that shit.) Or is that in the books you reccomended?

And any resources on working out at home?

>>16407959
>Any resources on how to eat healthily when you have food sensitivities to most fruits and vegetables (either supplements or methods to get over that shit.) Or is that in the books you reccomended?
Yeah, look into the books in >>16407856
The diet there doesn't involve any fruits or vegetables. Just vegetable juices at the most.

>>16407839
the cliche advice is true, regular sleep/good food/ease up on the drugs/exercise should correct the problem. if they don't it might be time to talk to a professional about it. 99% of all depression is just environment/habits and is corrected by a change in either

>>16407952
maybe its just how who ever created this interpreted it.
Taoist stuff is sorta doomer depending on what you value

>>16407959
whole30 is abused by closet anorexics but it's actually a pretty good way to figure out which foods specifically are causing you issues. beyond that count your macros and cook for yourself with quality ingredients

as for home exercise check out the bodyweight general on /fit/. go for walks every single day

>>16407839
Whenever I find it hard to read due to depression I have worked out a system where I read books that are 200 pages or less and fairly pulpy. By the time I have read about 5 of these my depressed state has usually changed and I start looking for something deeper and more interesting to sink my teeth into because my love for reading has been renewed and I feel better.

>>16407900
Yep. Always try lifestyle stuff before a pharmaceutical intervention.

>>16407839
You go for action/adventure/mystery books that are easier to read, so you can slowly build up motivation for more power.
I don't have much to recommend you, as my interests are quite narrow, but you can always try going through genre tags on websites with books for download and drop anything you just don't feel.
As for what I like, there's Agatha Christie's work, Fantômas by Souvestre/Allain, Arsene Lupin by Leblanc, Maigret series by Georges Simenon...

>>16407845
'tis a pretty good chart anon, basado indeed.

Reading is a good distraction and gives me something to think about during times when I don't have much to do. The motivation is there because life is worse when I am not reading.

>>16407905
fucking placebo bugman

>>16407856
>complains he can’t focus on reading
>you recommend him books to read

>>16408675
The solution to his problem is to just try harder so that anon is doing the right thing

>>16407839
The Trouble With Being Born is quite underwhelming, is that the point? I was expecting extremely mentally erosive passages that would send me spiraling down, but it only bored with how little he was really saying.

>>16407855
this is extremely reductive

>>16407839
get an e-reader. I wasn't able to read for a long time- and finally after hemming and hawing for months and months, I finally shelled out the cash to buy a kindle. The first time I turned it on and could actually read? I cried.

I have a couple theories, but mostly, I think it has to do with the fact that when you're reading off of an e-reader, you're only confronted with a small section of text. Without pages, you don't have to constantly be aware of how much you've read and how much you still have left to read- you only have to read as much text as is on the screen. It keeps you from being overwhelmed and makes it a lot easier.

>>16408786
What does that mean you couldn't read, are you stupid? I mean I understand when someone procrastinates but not reading for months despite of wanting it and then being emotionally so overwhelmed that you cry when you read again? You got serious problems, get help.

>>16409525
>You got serious problems, get help.
yeah, no shit you stupid fuck, I have severe clinical depression.

>>16407900
How do I get friends? Is there medication for that?

>>16409831
Eat high meat (no joke). Search for high meat on youtube to get a first impression, it really helps for depression, cures it even for several weeks when you eat it once.
There was also an article in Nature in the end of 2019 that stated that depression is directly linked to your gut flora.

>>16410008
Lately I've been prepping my meals in the morning for the whole day, and it's been helping a lot. A lot of fresh fruits and vegetables, fresh meat and complex carbs. I'm on meds, of course, but eating well definitely helps.

It's just kind of a catch 22- when I'm in a depressive phase, I don't have the energy to cook well.

>>16407862
Did you see the new Harry Potter game trailer? Looks like it might be cool.

Also: I would put Schopenhauer in Bloomer. He cured my depression.

>>16410094
Stop with the vegetables, it will make things worse. As I said, search for "high meat". I don't have depression but even for me it boosted my mood. But I heard that it helped a lot of people with depression (real depression nut just low-blood-sugar-depression). Just try it out.

>>16407845
Thanks, Perecbro

>>16410315
Perec is so based! I wish Les Choses wasn't his most well-known novel, I realised many friends were reluctant about him because of it.

>>16407839
based Walden

>>16410285
>Stop with the vegetables, it will make things worse.
where did you hear this?

>>16410368
You're not able to fully digest vegetables because of fiber and the antinutrients. It can lead to the leaky gut syndrome and even cause the mental issues in the first place. Look into the books in >>16407856

>>16407845
Whitehead was a good choice

>>16410382

where did you hear that bullshit

>>16410404
Can't your read? How often do I have to refer to these books? --> >>16407856

>>16410382
We're omnivores. We're literally built to eat plant fiber.

>>16410408

this book debunk this myth : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gene-Eating-science-obesity-truth/dp/1841882917

>>16410412
That's not right.
>>16410413
>has man made junk food on the cover
Yeah, seems to be a great book.

>>16410408
Why stop there? Why not go full raw meat?

>>16410430
>Why not go full raw meat?
I already do, that's the whole point of raw primal diet. I just brought up the high meat stuff because of anons having depression.

>>16410425
>That's not right.
Okay, so I got some things mixed up. That doesn't change the fact that we're omnivores, and telling people not to eat vegetables is ridiculous and unhealthy. That's how you get scurvy and gout.

>>16410441
Oh, so you're completely crazy.

>>16410442
>and telling people not to eat vegetables is ridiculous and unhealthy. That's how you get scurvy and gout.
No, meat has every nutrient there is. Liver has more vitamin C than most fruits.

>>16410447
Oh, so your programming is too string. That's literally how people ate mostly before really recent changes. Maybe 100-200 years, you can still see the traces. Every culture has raw meat
>sushi
>sashimi
>carpaccio
>ground beef
>...

>>16410454
yea mah man but you have to eat the whole animal to make sure you have all the nutrients

eating only steak will bring you to clog your arteries

>>16410487
Yes, very specific meats prepared a certain way.

>>16410497
>eating only steak
I meantioned liver, why do you think I eat only muscle meat? Also I eat other animal products, like eggs, butter, milk and so on
>>16410498
Today, yes. For example people didn't even ate the rice with sushi, they just used it to preserve the fish and then threw it away.

>>16410526
>butter
>raw primal diet

Look man, I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. If you're eating like a cave man (which I fully endorse) then you'd be eating mostly plants. There's no way hunters and gatherers could subsist entirely on meat, and I refuse to eat that much meat. My lifestyle doesn't support an entirely meat based diet and frankly, I don't want to.

>>16410559
The butter is just cope. If we would live in an ideal environment like our ancestors did we wouldn't need it but we are exposed to many toxins and the raw fat from the butter is just for this situation because it bounds to the toxins and your body can better exude them.

And you don't have to, it just was a game changer for me, so I thought it could benefit other anons.

>>16410382
>fiber and the antinutrients
Take your meds schizotard
You're what's wrong with the internet

>>16410594
Even though I don't agree, I do appreciate the effort anon. Thanks

>>16410612
Explain

>>16410625
>My fad snakeoil diet will cure everything that could be possibly ail you
You people are worse than the anal probers

>>16410636
It did for me and for many other people. And how is it snake oil when it's literally just natural food and zero medicine? Nobody is trying to sell you something.

>>16410656
You are trying to sell a belief system, create confusion and spread misinformation
>>16407900 is simple, people can do it with minimal effort, and it actually without needing to believe in some authors crackpot evidence

>>16410669
It's not a belief system man, it's just the natural way humans ate wtf. But ok, do your thing, you seem to be disproportionately assblasted.

go vegan. meat is poison and carnivore diet is an awful meme.

>>16407839
What a shit chart, half of those depressive are just comedic literature. Dark comedy, yes, but comedy at last.

>>16407855
>This is how Americans actually conceive
of mental illness

>>16410285
it had to be a fucking paleo schizo

>>16410688
>let's just eat like the humans did when life expectancy was 30 years and child mortality was sky high
>it's healthier I swear
and
>I don't have depression but it'll surely cure yours
go away schizo

>>16410826
>>let's just eat like the humans did when life expectancy was 30 years
It's funny how this board tries to be anti reddit/anti mainstream but when it comes to a field other than lit you just all bend to nonsense meme knowledge like this.

>>16407839
You can't change how you feel unless you can't change how you act. Depression is idleness.

>>16410881
>>16410881
paleo is a retard meme. being a contrarian just makes you more retarded.

>>16410487
sushi wasn't raw until recently, the fish was pickled. that's why they add vinegar to the rice now

>>16410935
>paleo is a retard meme.
That's right, but I'm not advocating for paleo
>>16410983
Fake news. Nonetheless they ate fish raw in other forms, like sashimi.

>>16411039
>but I'm not advocating for paleo
whatever. keto/carnivore/low carb/etc. they are all retarded.

>>16411070
All the three named are retarded, you're right.

>>16411193
oh I thought I was replying to the low carb anon

>>16407839
where does Kaczynski fall in that chart?

>>16407839
WTF is "gay science" about? faggots?

>>16407862
any specific fics you can rec?

>>16407900
I already do all of those
>spend at least a few hours per week in the company of friends
oh...