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why do incels write such good books?

do you have to be an outsider to make coherent observations on soiciety and the human condition?

>> No.16389766

>>16389752
dante wasn't an incel

>> No.16389773

>>16389752
What are Goethe, Kierkegaard, Plato, Borges doing on this list

>> No.16389809

>>16389752
>Ancient Greeks
boipucci connoisseurs

>Dante
The Greatest Simp of all Time, but not an Incel

>Borges
Married Twice

>Nietzsche
She rejected him 3 times :(
He had oneitis, wasn't an incel

>Kafka
Had a gf, fell out

>Kant
Voliest volcel who ever voled.

>> No.16389815
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16389815

>>16389766
>>16389773
>>16389809
>chadsplaining
stop stealing my cultural heritage you consummators

>> No.16389818

>>16389773
kierkegaard was volcel that chick almost killed herself cuz he wouldnt marry her

>> No.16389837

>>16389818
volcel is just cope for incel.

>> No.16389839

>>16389809
>Kafka
>Had a gf, fell out
He had 4 and almost got married twice.

>> No.16389849

>>16389752
They saved all their coom for mental superpowers

>> No.16389851

>>16389752
expending your seminal fluid too liberally makes you incapable of contributing anything of value to culture, read the Coiled Serpent.

>> No.16389852

>>16389752
Based
inb4 assblasted roasties flood the thread with their seething

>> No.16389860

>>16389752
how do you explain bach? dude had over 20 kids and he was the greatest genius ever.

>> No.16389866

>>16389752
It should be "sí" for Spanish, "si" means if.

>> No.16389871

>>16389860
Western music began and ended with Gregorian chants

>> No.16389873

>>16389752
/r9k/ incels are in full force today

>> No.16389879

>>16389860
heres how:

tier list of artists:
>virgin/incel/escortcel
>copulators
>literal shit
>foids

>> No.16389890

>>16389837
not everyone has the same needs

>> No.16389899

>>16389890
>>16389839
there is literally a term for them, they are mentalcel bro

>> No.16389907

>>16389815
Incel is an oxymoron. All celibacy is voluntary by definition.

>> No.16389912
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picrel is literally kafka

>> No.16389920

>>16389899
mentally celibate? how the fuck does that work?

>> No.16389924

>>16389907
see >>16389815, this argument was debunked at the incel communities inception

>> No.16389949

>>16389920
it means your insecurity or mental issues block you from ascending, as opposed to lookism. for example, kafka had relationships but never consummated them out of an intense fear and loathing of sex, instead using prostitutes as an outlet for his sexual energy. mentalcel escortcel

>> No.16389987

>>16389752
Why isnt this retarded pajeet incel permabanned yet when all he does is make this same shitty thread over and over again?

>> No.16389997

>>16389949
>fucking a hole is "ascending"
kek no wonder incels have fucked up lives
>instead using prostitutes as an outlet for his sexual energy. mentalcel escortcel
Going to the brothels was as normal as going to the grocery store. Even married men used to go. This faggy puritanical burger way of seeing the foreign world of the past is frankly anachronistic.

>> No.16390000

>>16389752
But Kierkegaard was a physiocel

>> No.16390002

>>16389866
Ten sexo

>> No.16390010

>>16389809
>Voliest volcel who ever voled.
iirc a girl asked to marry him and he took like two years to respond "yes" and by that time she forgot him and married someone else

>> No.16390029

>>16389809
OP BTFO

>> No.16390030

>>16389752
Muh Proust was an incel cope is so fucking pitiful

>> No.16390033

>>16389997
>Going to the brothels was as normal as going to the grocery store. Even married men used to go
yes, that is why escortcel is incel, not noncel

from the wiki:
>Frequenting prostitutes or being a sugar daddy/mommy does not count as a sexual, romantic, or even social relationship, but rather a financial relationship, as the relationship remains without sex/romance/sociability, but not without money.

>> No.16390036

>>16390002
Dilátate.

>> No.16390039

>>16389949
>mentalcel
Good God.
I swear, an incel could be set up on a date with a 22/10 supermodel, and in the middle of sex he'd mumble about how he's still a celibate of some sort.

Also,
>ascending
Seriously?

>> No.16390053

>>16390033
>escort celibate
that doesn't make any sense. if he fucked whores, he wasn't celibate, by definition.

>> No.16390058

>>16389949
This. I’m myself a mentalcel and an escortcel, still an incel.

>> No.16390060

>>16389860
OP BTFO

>> No.16390074

>>16390058
You've had sex. You quite literally are not an incel.

>> No.16390083

>>16390053
>>16390074
>>16390039
see >>16389815. you guys have no idea what the definition of incel is outside the meme term, or what it means to be incel, and then you get mad when your preconcieved notions are wrong. all of this is defined in the wiki. you might also be surprised that the regulatory agency for oil in texas is the texas railroad commission. there is more to concepts than whats in a name

>> No.16390085

Plato had at least 3 male lovers you dickhead. Dante was married and his descendants still live to this day.

>> No.16390102

>>16389815
If someone is content with their situation -- as this image says -- then why should it be included with "involuntary" when it seems to imply they're now "voluntary" celibate. "Involuntary" means without choice, or beyond control; being content would imply acceptance, which is within one's control.

This is why it's fucking stupid when people just use words haphazardly.

>> No.16390104

I mean the joke here is that op is some fat 40 year old pajeet virgin who goes online to pretend like hes some spiritual successor to Dante because he cant get pussy even though hes never going to make literally anything in his life, or what am i missing?

>> No.16390115

>>16390102
one, all the people in the op were not content. two, volcel is just cope for incel, and coping does not mean you are content

>> No.16390117

>>16390033
>yes, that is why escortcel is incel
Fuck off, you cope faggot. An incel faggot like you couldn’t even be capable of visiting an escort because you’re too autistic. Just because someone prefers fucking prostitutes doesn’t mean you reaching incel faggots can claim them as incel

>> No.16390119

>>16390083
>using wiki as a source
found the brainletcel

>> No.16390124

>>16390083
The term was invented by some lesbian Canadian who hadn't had sex in a while. It just means a person who hasn't sex in a while. All the other additions are forced memes by the incel community. "B-but you must have sex with a woman who's your girlfriend", "B-but you must have sex with a woman who's your girlfriend and loves you", "B-but you must have sex with a woman who's your girlfriend, loves you and is absolutely beautiful." It goes on and on. Moving the goal posts ad infinitum to the point where everyone is an incel most of the time. If you have sex with whatever person, by definition, you're not an incel. Period.

>> No.16390126

>>16390117
strawman. read kafka's biography, or at least the wikipedia one. he was literally scared to fuck his gfs

>> No.16390130

>>16390115
Prove it.

>> No.16390139
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>>16389752
>Borges is an incel
Does having a Japanese wife make you an incel?

>> No.16390141

>>16390124
are you too brainlet to realize words and their connotations change over time?

>> No.16390154

>>16390139
"incel" means whatever they want it to mean. It's a template term like "racist" or "fascist."

>> No.16390159

>>16390141
It's the incel faggots who change them in their cesspools, not actual humans. Therefore, it doesn't count :D

>> No.16390164

>>16390010
“Oh sorry, I thought I responded, I was busy!”

>> No.16390165

>>16390139
>ew don’t touch me you old man, get away! OUCH! Your hurting me!
>SILENCE

>> No.16390166

>>16389752
Dante had a wife. Goethe fucked Schopenhauer's mother. Proust was gay.Kant was a volcel.

>> No.16390175

>>16390130
prove what, that every one of them was not content or that volcel is cope? for the former, if you dont know anything about those authors you dont belong on /lit/. i shouldnt have to spoonfeed you infodumps on every one. for the latter, it goes without saying that sex is a biological imperative. everybody needs it. to say you dont is just pure cope

>> No.16390189

>>16390139
>You're going to get my pito, boluda!
>No señol Bolges, no ponel su pito en mí!
>Casháte and bend over!

>> No.16390191

>>16389752
Did borges not have a big titted argentinian lover?

>> No.16390198

>>16390166
>Goethe fucked Schopenhauer's mother
I'm finding this very funny. There is even a rumor that Schopenhauer is in fact Goethe's child. Big if true.

>> No.16390205

FACT: if you ever had sex before turning 25 you will NEVER write a great book. At 25 the brain has finished its maturation meaning that it can interest itself to whatever subject without changing its fundamental shape. If you had sex before 25 (unless it was with prostitutes) your brain will shape itself to make that pleasure its secondary goal after eating, sleeping and shitting/pissing. This means that once if have achieved your primary goals, your brain will effectively seek its second goal until it has achieved orgasm WITH A WOMAN, after which you'll have a few moments of clarity during which you may try to understand deep subjects. These moments will be too short to explore anything significant unfortunately. The more you have sex, the more your brain is damaged. Therefore we have four cases:
>you're an incel/volcel when turning 25: good news you have a shot at making GREAT art or philosophy, you are effectively a sane human being fully capable of enjoying life and grasping the most complex topics
>when turning 25 you had sex a few times, by luck: you still have a shot at writing good books, your brain has become misshaped but not too much
>when turning 25 you had sex a lot of times because you were in a long time relationship: it's over for the lit career, your brain will effectively only seek sex while you still have a libido and you'll be stuck in the past afterwards, you can still be a sane individual in society and raise good children because while your brain is atrophied, you could have it almost as much as you wanted thanks to your relationship, therefore you had more moments of clarity which lasted longer, because your brain was more at peace with its search for sex
>when turning 25 you had lots of sex with lots of women: needless to say that your brain has not grown at all since the first time you had sex, you'll always have the brain of a stupid teenager, you cannot be a sane individual and raise good children, the only good news for society as a whole is that you're more likely to die of STDs than other individuals, hope it was worth it

>> No.16390214

>>16390139
Because Asian women are fucking hideous, it makes sense he could only fuck her when he was blind

>> No.16390226

>>16389752
Most of them are volcels.

>> No.16390232

>>16390205
What about masturbation?

>> No.16390235

>>16390226
stop chadsplaining. weve established volcel=incel cope

>> No.16390236

>>16390175
> for the latter, it goes without saying that sex is a biological imperative. everybody needs it. to say you dont is just pure cope
Ejaculation is the thing that is a biological imperative. If you don't do it, your system does it for you. But even if you're right, then having sex with whatever person means you're not an incel. Therefore fucking whores means you're not an incel, having one-night stands with drunk girls means you're not an incel, etc. Also, sex drive and libido varies from person to person, some animals need it more than others. The idea that everyone has the exact same thirst for sex than you do, is what it's retarded.

>> No.16390249
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>>16390214
His wife was German-Japanese. Maybe Hitler was onto something...

>> No.16390273

>>16390236
straw man. ejaculation in itself is meaningless. sex is a biological imperative for reproduction's sake. you dont reproduce with prostitutes.

one night stands do not equal fucking prostitutes. prostitutes are stifling, oppressive, and contrived. prostitutes are just a cope for pent up sexual energy. fucking a girl who wants you is a huge ego boost. she is saying "i see you as sexually valid, i want to risk having a baby with you". the prostitute does not fuck you out of recognition for your genetic potential. she is a hired service

>> No.16390303

>>16390273
> fucking a girl who wants you is a huge ego boost
lmao so this is what incelism is all about? some ego bost? roger that. no further questions.

>> No.16390305

>>16390232
Masturbation is quickly done and does not comes with a social gratification. It is bad but not as bad (unless it becomes an addiction). Porn is wicked though.

>> No.16390308

>>16389873
seething f*moid

>> No.16390322

>>16390085
>male lovers
doesn't count, that's like having sex with your hand

>> No.16390325

>>16390303
another strawman. it is about a failure to reproduce because no girl will want to reproduce with you. one night stands are just concrete examples, symptoms of this. i cant believe im replying to this troll post

>> No.16390351

>>16390325
have sex

>> No.16390357

>>16390351
bend over

>> No.16390367

>>16389860
much prefer beethoven

>> No.16390378

>>16390357
just have sex with a woman, incel LMAO wtf

>> No.16390383

>>16390378
noncel moment

>> No.16390407

>>16390378
yikes. let's unpack this, noncel.

>> No.16390415

Why are noncels so mad iit? Just go have sex or something, reading book is of no use to you. Art is not for you. Go have sex instead of reading, watching movies, listening to music, go to the museum, arguing online, mocking incels.. Or are you secretly envious of incels because you cannot gain your virginity back? Go have sex and forget about us. Let us be in peace, is it not enough to ostracise us in the real world, do you also have to make internet hell for us? Great writers were incels, you are not. Cope by having sex.

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16390420

pick your poison

>> No.16390423

>>16390415
based

>> No.16390425

>>16390074
I can't have sex with women because of my fucked brain. I tried seeing prostitute to see if it could help and it only made things worse. I'm an incel and you cannot take this from me.

>> No.16390437

>>16390322
I trust that someone used to having sex exclusively with his hand would know

>> No.16390466

>>16390351
Do you understand that by calling me an incel you're admitting my celibate is involuntary? So then how am I to have sex?

>> No.16390477
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>>16390466
>

>> No.16390480

>>16390415
beyond based

>> No.16390511

>>16390415
The voice of a generation. Powerful.

>> No.16390512

>>16390466
why would anyone take anything you say seriously if you live in the information age where everything is given to you and youre still an unfuckable sack of shit who cant even tame a single woman?

>> No.16390518

>>16390415
based as hell

>> No.16390631
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>>16389752
I cant tell if this sub 70 IQ anime loving cum sock having cheeto eating acne suffering mentally ill pajeet is genuinely retarded or just trolling but none of those people were struggling with being an "incel", literally none of them could probably even conceive the modern day culture where females can royally blow pajeets like OP the fuck out by saying that they cant have sex

no such concept literally ever existed until "virgin" became a semi insult through americas "culture" within the last 20 years. Some of those writers might have had varying levels of sexual repression or issues in their romantic lives but the concept literally didnt exist in any shape or form back in the day and there was no culture of promiscuity and sexual liberation like in 2020, which is why its such an effective insult and ego hit for failures like OP who desperately want sex but cant get it and they know it which is why buying it doesnt really "count" because the same female would still point and laugh at them for not being able to truly get someone to give it to them. You will never achieve anything so never compare yourself to these great men of old you fucking worthless piece of shit. Even actual hardcore "incels" by todays standards like Lovecraft eventually ended up with satisfying sexual and romantic relationships because they werent coping subhumans like OP who try to convert their failure into some superpower while going "muh ancestor" like some confused shitskin from america

then again, im pretty sure that is literally what he is

never make this dogshit thread again or the next time ill personally track down your IP and come over with the boys to disembowel your screeching brown caricature of a mans body. Its not like you could stop us, you cant even have sex lol

>> No.16390647

>>16390415
Have sex.

>> No.16390656

>>16390631
tl;dr
fuck off sex haver

>> No.16390658

>>16390631
the term incel dates back to the 18th century retard, which proves 9/12 of them. but its doubly retard to think a concept doesnt exist until somebody gives it a name.

>> No.16390664

>>16390647
create something great

>> No.16390681
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16390681

>>16390656
>I am a great thinker, but I couldnt even read one 4chan post

never reply to me again little subhuman child. Youve never made anything and you never will, because youre a spineless failure. Funnily enough I am the overman here and soon youll know it when the biggest book of our times hits the shelves

>>16390658
nice lie mongoloid, feel free to show everyone the proof

>> No.16390689

>>16390631
yikes, sensitive much? why are you so mad? unironically asking.

>> No.16390691

>>16390681
>The custom of the Ancients in their marriages was quite different from that of the age wherein we live: large gratifications were given to the young ladies whom they were to marry, and even to their parents, whereas it is very rare now-a-days for one to marry a woman without a portion. Homer and several others, mention this Custom, and would to God it were still in Fashion: How many young Women who groan under the Yoke of involuntary Celibacy, would find Husbands to make them happy, did not the Avarice of those husbands reduce them to the calamities wherein ixion was involved.

—Antoine Banier, The Mythology and Fables of the Ancients, Explain'd from History, Volume 3, 1739

as for the latter idea i postulated, was there not a force that accelerated the fall of objects at a rate of 9.8m/s^2 until someone called it gravity?

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>>16390689
Because unlike weasely, feminine, pathetic attempts at beggary, subversion and deception like OP all I feel is test fueled rage and determination

>>16390691
>he said the yoke of involuntary celibacy once in 1739 so he literally invented the term incel and it was used ever since lol

are you genuinely retarded? I mean I already know the answer but see above bad faith weasel, people like you just need violent culling before you hurt a fertile woman let alone the majesty of a better man

>> No.16390705

>>16390647
stop being mean, my life is full of suffering and you're making things worse

>> No.16390713

>>16390141
>>16390033

Moving the goalposts. Don't worry about it, there are more important things than sex.

There's nothing wrong with being a virgin.

>> No.16390727

>>16390681
>never reply to me again little subhuman child. Youve never made anything and you never will, because youre a spineless failure. Funnily enough I am the overman here and soon youll know it when the biggest book of our times hits the shelves
cringe post bro

>> No.16390728

>>16390702
based sex haver

>> No.16390736

>>16390631
>pajeet
We don't claim him

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>>16390713
to note a logical fallacy without giving reason why it exists and alters the argument makes your comment insignificant.
>>16390702
empirically and demonstrably false. but you cope and ignore my latter point that it does not even matter, because a concept can exist without a name

>> No.16390750

ITT: incels coping à la WE WUZ KANGZ N SHEEEIT

>> No.16390760

>>16390415
basd

>> No.16390767

>>16390742
what the fuck am I even meant to be looking at here mongrel?

> but you cope and ignore my latter point that it does not even matter
what fucking "point" spineless autist? that a concept cant exist until someone names it? Are you so braindead that you didnt even comprehend MY point which you should have already known beforehand on your own if you werent a retarded autist? None of those men grew in a culture where they were in any sense expected to be promiscuous let alone laughed at for not being so, their turmoil was utterly not ego driven if it existed at all since if they wanted sex the only gatekeeper was the fact that women werent expected to whore around yet, which is exactly why youre a weasely autist with a damaged ego because now they do but just NOT TO YOU. The term involuntarily celibate was literally frankensteined to life in 2018-2020 to come up with a more hurtful term for faggots like you since it cuts deeper than just calling someone a virgin which is fairly neutral

>> No.16390773

>>16389752
None of them were even close to what you in your myopic view is definitely g as “incel”

>> No.16390814

>>16390767
>None of those men grew in a culture where they were in any sense expected to be promiscuous let alone laughed at for not being so, their turmoil was utterly not ego driven if it existed at all since if they wanted sex the only gatekeeper was the fact that women werent expected to whore around yet
you assume the incel condition depends on a culture of promiscuity that ostracizes people who dont have sex, and fail to acknowledge the duty each of us has to himself to reproduce because of biological imperatives. you further make the unfounded assumption that in times past you could get a gf like it was nothing (chadsplaining).
>The term involuntarily celibate was literally frankensteined to life in 2018-2020 to come up with a more hurtful term for faggots like you since it cuts deeper than just calling someone a virgin which is fairly neutral
see my point about people not being able to find a mate and reproduce without the term existing or being popularized

>> No.16390834

>>16390767
>None of those men grew in a culture where they were in any sense expected to be promiscuous
If you aren't ready to have sex don't have sex.
I have decided to not date/hook-up until I am happy with my progress in terms of career, exercise, and spirituality. I'm sure some women will be unhappy with my lack of experience, but that's okay.

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16390859

I've always wondered how sex havers cope with the fact that they'll never achieve anything in life and this thread finally given me an answer.
Apparently they post internet tough guy rants on anime forums.

>> No.16391078

>>16390814
>>16390859
go kill yourselves

then again who am i kidding, i dont even have to tell you, youll do it anyway within a few years

>> No.16391111

A large majority of Plotinus' followers and donors were women.

>> No.16391128

>>16389752
>no shakespeare
>no joyce
>no rabelais
>no tolstoy
>no byron
>no milton

I could go on, but I don't have all day to go round picking cherries like you do

>> No.16391140

>>16391128
you would acknowledge though, that the difference lies in the number of people who reproduce vs the number of those who dont. incels churn out great writers at a much higher rate than that of sex haver coomslaves

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>>16391111
>Plotinus also attracted women who were devoted to philosophy. There was Gemina, in whose house he lived, and her daughter, who like her mother was called Gemina; and there was Amphicleia, who was the 5wife of Ariston, son of Iamblichus, also devoted to philosophy. Furthermore, a number of men and women of the highest social order brought their male and female offspring to him when they were about to die. They would entrust them to him along with what remained of their property, treating his protection as sacred and god-like. For this reason, Plotinus’ house was full of boys and girls – among them Potamo, whose education he took such pains over that he would often listen even to revisions of his compositions. He would minutely scrutinize the accounts submitted by their trustees, and insisted that as long as they did not take up philosophy their possessions and revenues should 15 remain untouched and secure. Plotinus, then, although he never relaxed his mental concentration so long as he was awake, undertook his share of responsibility for the lives and concerns of other people – many of them. He was, to those who had any dealings with him, kind and accessible. For this reason, although he lived for 26 whole years in Rome, and acted as arbiter in many cases of personal dispute, he never made a single enemy in his public life.
also
>§10. Among those with pretensions to philosophy it was different: Olympius of Alexandria, who had studied with Ammonius for a while, 5 wanted to be pre-eminent as a philosopher and hated him. He used magic to attack him, trying to get him star-struck. When he realized that the attempt had only rebounded on himself, he said to his acquaintances that the power of Plotinus’ soul was so great that he could deflect attacks made against him onto those who were trying to do him harm. Plotinus for his part was aware of Olympius’ efforts, and said that his body then felt like ‘a purse being drawn shut’ [Symp. 190d], his limbs being pressed together. Olympius saw that he would suffer much worse things himself than anything he could hope to do to Plotinus, and gave up trying.

>> No.16391166

I genuinely cant believe the mods let this retarded pajeet make these bait threads 24/7

ive done my part but everyone else is too retarded to simply report these shitty threads instead of indulging his cheeto dust special ED tendencies for hours

>> No.16391184

>>16391166
anon im sorry you lost your virginity and you will never be able to get it back but lashing out on other people wont help you recover the insights and intuition we incels enjoy

>> No.16391186

>>16389752
A squinting gypsy with two front teeth missing will brag about receiving head, and supposedly we are expected to congratulate him.
Why place so much value on what such specimen are capable of?
It's a mechanism to make the non virgins feel superior to virgins, and the incels are those who began to envy them, falling for the meme. It's like the realm of animals and lesser human beings bragging about something in so much abundance and common place.
And those who are very valuable will have to learn to reject being manipulated by their woman, so he learns to control his urges.

>> No.16391191

>>16390415
based and truthpilled

>> No.16391195

>>16391184
keep making the same shitty bait posts on loop, probably makes you feel like an epic mastermind but i wouldnt be surprised if this was the actual ultimate cope for some crying incel behind the monitor. If there was anything great about you you wouldnt be whining about muh ancestors on 4chan in place of touting your own achievements (which are as evidenced nonexistent)

>> No.16391206

>>16390175
>>16390273
>it goes without saying that sex is a biological imperative
Aside form the smug assurance in knowing other people's motives, there are many people with extremely low sex drives. They don't cope with anything not having sex.
Coping also does no mean overall discontent. You always have to "cope" with the possibilities you don't realize, even if it is to achieve the option you prefer.
>ejaculation in itself is meaningless. sex is a biological imperative for reproduction's sake
Sex drive is out of instinct. There is no imperative at a naturalistic level, nature has no deliberation.
You can say God has, but that's an entirely different argument. Besides, He thinks celibacy is even better.

>> No.16391220

>>16391078
i am a fairly attractive person who has had sex in the past and have since realized how empty and worthless the entire sexual drive is. the "have sex" crowd is literally dominated into spiritual cuckoldry by their own base urges, they have been completely cowed into submission by them to the point where they have no will of their own to speak of, only that of their libido. the succubus on their shoulder speaks for them, thinks for them, acts for them, they are enslaved to it utterly and as such are only vestigially human, the rest of them belonging to impulses and drives you would find essentially unaltered in creatures such as monkeys, or dogs. if i ever found myself putting such disgusting behavior on a pedestal as some measure of value or worth i would hopefully have the good sense to kill myself shortly after
so yeah enjoy your metaphysical cuckoldry to your base desires you enormous faggot. i'll just be here enjoying my actual freedom away from whores, thots, and jezebels

>> No.16391233

>>16389809
You know, even some incels probably have had or will sex at least once in their lives. Incel =/= virgin. What makes an incel is implicit in the general.

>> No.16391252

>>16391220
>i am a fairly attractive person who has had sex in the past and have since realized how empty and worthless the entire sexual drive is.
okay? what does that have to do with this thread which was made by an anime loving pajeet that calls himself an incel and says that if you arent an incel youll never be a good writer which is his "muh ancestor" cope since apparently Dante was an /r/braincel too

>so yeah enjoy your metaphysical cuckoldry to your base desires you enormous faggot. i'll just be here enjoying my actual freedom away from whores, thots, and jezebels
are you genuinely retarded? what are you even trying to say fucking mongoloid? OP is the biggest slave in the thread, its why he literally identifies himself as a part of some ""we cant have sex lol" group like its a part of his being and identity and somehow gives him superpowers in life. Then again youre pretty much on his level if you think its some great achievement to not enjoy casual sex. You literally didnt say anything in your dogshit post beyond some imaginary rant about how you apparently could have all the sex in the world if you wanted but youre so enlightened by not doing it. Im pretty sure thats your average content adult who can but doesnt feel some ego driven need to like OP

>> No.16391273

>>16391206
>Aside form the smug assurance in knowing other people's motives, there are many people with extremely low sex drives
classic fallacy of conflating degree and measure
>Coping also does no mean overall discontent
then its not a cope, by definition
>Sex drive is out of instinct. There is no imperative at a naturalistic level, nature has no deliberation.
where do you think that instinct comes from retard? thousands of years of evolution commands us to cum inside hot teen pussy to continue our species. you can say whatever about how its objectively bullshit, but it doesnt change the reality for humanity which is programmed with a need to reproduce. if you need further convincing, look at maslow's hierarchy of needs.

>> No.16391282

>>16391252
have sex lol

>> No.16391297

>>16391282
bend over

>> No.16391318

>>16391282
I do, my girlfriend keeps begging me to go over all the time in fact but I honestly dont care to do it that often

>> No.16391374

>>16391195
>intentional fallacy
hownew.ru
personal achievements have no place on anonymous imageboards. there is no way to prove them or to not risk getting doxxed. and nobody gives a shit.

keep seething about the fact that you lost your virginity and everything that comes with it. maybe you will get reincarnated as an incel an fare better in the next life

>> No.16391392

>>16391374
>maybe you will get reincarnated as an ugly mouthbreather

I was, then I actually worked on myself and lost 40kg/ got my teeth fixed/ started eating properly and wharfing down vitamins/ started working out/ bought some actually good looking clothes, started cutting my hair properly and on top of that I spent a few years practicing and studying how to write and am now actually writing a book unlike a failed autist like you. You should probably hope youll get reincarnated as a shit beetle or something since its a higher existence than your current one fucking worthless mongoloid

>> No.16391415

I have lot of sympathy for you huys because I am myself an innoncel. I wish I could have stayed virgin but the social pressure to fuck is too big and I force myself to fuck so I don’t loose face with my friends. Keep up the good fight guys! I know some of you will be great writers.

>> No.16391422

>>16391392
>he thinks this means anything on an anonymous basket weaving forum
yeah, and im a 6'4 ripped white investment banker with a square jaw and hunter eyes. lmao fuck off.

and your books gonna be trash since youre not a virgin (if youre actually writing one lol)

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>>16391422
>NOOO ITS A LIE YOU CANT ACTUALLY HAVE WILLPOWER BECAUSE IM A LOSER

the reality is that you are a genetic dead end destined to fail. I write, you cry. I succeed, you die alone. You only have yourself to blame retarded autist.

>muh 6'4

so not only was I right about you being a retarded shitskin elliot tier amerimutt, your entire perception of the world is completely dominated by reddit memes. Im barely over 170cm and have two girlfriends, one estonian teenager and another model mistress that I was cheating with

>> No.16391482

>>16391453
lmao nice straw man. none of that means shit on anonymous basket weaving forums. its the same principles behind no girls on the internet. anyway have fun writing the next book nobody will ever read

>> No.16391497

>>16390415
They hated him because he told them the truth.

>> No.16391504

>>16391482
>n-noo n-none of it means anything anonymously lol

but your damaged shitskin ego knows that im not lying, just as you couldnt bear the thought of lying about having had sex. Youre a seething incel and im literally the chad in your nightmares with an actually manly jaw, "hunter eyes", beautiful features, a strong manly build, a big fucking dick and actual skills and talents unlike a whiny mongoloid like you. Now go shoot up some crowds or something since its not like you can achieve anything else anyway

>>16391497
stop samefagging your dogshit youtube comments tier animeautist revelation

>> No.16391514

>>16391504
>i-im not larping i swear
>dude just trust me
lolno. wheres the evidence?

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>>16391504
>noooo distinct people couldn't possibly disagree with me
See that "cope" thing that gets thrown around a lot ITT? You're doing it right now.

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>>16391514
I cant even fathom what kind of a retard would you have to be to ask for "evidence" of someone having a girlfriend because theyre attractive after tons of self improvement. Are you braindead? Wheres the evidence for you not being an ugly fat pajeet? What exactly do I gain from "larping" in your dogshit thread about how you supposedly have superpowers for not being able to get women to want you? In reality you are achieving nothing and you have achieved nothing. I spend every day trying to better myself and achieve things. You should honestly fucking kill yourself because its blatantly obvious youre a useless weakling

>h-haha larp
yikes, yeah, it looks like I finally completely broke the braindead incel. But wasnt that literally what you were crying about the whole time? That literally everyone else is having sex but faggots like you? Whats so unbelievable about what Ive said so far? How about you delete your garbage thread and go sniff that cum sock of yours so I dont have to look at your dogshit posts and pathetic samefagging anymore since le epic "trolling" on one of the slower boards on fucking 4chan is the highlight and biggest achievement of your whole year once again?

Dont even bother replying unless its above 1500 words fucking braindead mutt

>> No.16391591

>>16389773
>what is Goethe doing on this list
Seriously?

>> No.16391602

>>16391571
nice bait. how about you show us what flying squirrel mode looks like if you lost 40kg lol. unsubstantiated claims can be dismissed unsubstantially

>> No.16391613

>>16389809
How does having a oneitis preclude you from being an incel

>> No.16391622

>>16391613
it doesnt. hes chadsplaining to try and appropriate our cultural heritage

>> No.16391630

>>16391613
If anything, that's a strong reinforcement.

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>>16391602
I hope you realize how fucking pathetic you look, youre an actual mongoloid. You were reduced to an absolutely blubbering mess to the point where you even stopped posting your dogshit bait because your feefees got actually hurt. Go have sex retard

>nice bait.
whats the "bait"? who is getting "baited"? do you think someone on the street will find it hard to believe that an attractive man has a girlfriend and another secret lover and is writing a book? Which of those was so unbelievable? Im genuinely asking for you to reveal your spineless faggotry right now since you claim to be some intellectual muh ancestor the next dante of our times for being a smelly autist. Are you telling me you arent already fucking writing a book you piece of retarded shit?

>how about you show us what flying squirrel mode looks like if you lost 40kg lol.
Not a thing since im only 22 and lost it during the span of 4 years

>unsubstantiated claims can be dismissed unsubstantially
yes, and the only one pathetic enough to think that its something worth lying about is you. Its exactly why im also telling you those things in the first place because its a good reality check for a useless mongoloid like you. I would genuinely beat the fuck out of you if I ever saw you irl. Every time I see you make this pathetic thread again ill come back to utterly destroy you and remind you of this feminine weak mess you were reduced to. Everyone knows youre an anime loving pedophile with a masturbation addiction so how about you delete this dogshit thread and go back to watching K-on. Then again who am I kidding, its already on the other monitor

>> No.16391656

>>16391645
>I would genuinely beat the fuck out of you if I ever saw you irl
literally seething haha. cmon lets see those skin flaps. or post a part of your book for us to cringe at

>> No.16391673

>>16391645
t. 300 confirmed kills in gorilla warfare

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>>16391656
really? thats the best you could come up with? nothing but emotionally motivated seething and failed attempts at insults since youre desperately trying to poke holes at someone having actually done something as gargantuan as spent 4 entire years on losing weight, since obviously not being a spineless faggot is too hard for even one day to someone like you

>or post a part of your book for us to cringe at
of course I wouldnt, unlike muh idea guy autists like you who spent their days seething about how youll totally be the next great man I actually take writing seriously as my job and not some faggot hobby ill share around for some smelly pajeet on 4chan to examine. The next person who will read it now since its in its final stages is a litany of publishers. Not that you can probably even comprehend someone not desperately seeking validation since writing is an actual serious job for them and not some pajeets daydream?

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>>16391681

>> No.16391730

>>16391711
really? thats it? well ill take my victory and finally let you cry in peace then, incel pajeet got scalped real bad. Isnt it a little ironic to be seething and crying and posting muh bait images when your entire dogshit thread is literally the definition of bait? You just didnt expect someone to actually come in and cut your goblin spawn head off verbally

>> No.16391766

>>16391730
if thats what you need to tell yourself lol

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>>16391766
>i-if tht-thats w-what y-you need to t-tell yourself
>l-lol i-im actually just laughing l-lol

why did you stop working on your epic bait about what an overman you are for being an incel? Are you actually crying behind the monitor? Why are you taking so long to reply with these vapid facebook comments tier cope posts where you pretend like youre still totally in control even though youre being absolutely demolished? Just let it go pajeet, delete the thread and skulk back into the sewer

>> No.16391855

>>16391785
>epic bait
bro i am not the one spouting off things he cant prove. everything you have said is insignificant because it is unfounded. it is funny though that the guy who supposedly has it all is waiting impatiently for people to reply to his imageboard posts lol

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>>16391855
You never explained what the "bait" was as if I supposedly gave a single fuck about being able to "prove" something as if you believing them changed my life in any way, the point was to make you realize what a mongoloid you are and it was utterly successfull since youre desperately on some final cope now begging for me to "prove" everything I said. Even if you came up with a method for me to do that it in on itself already proves that you already lost. It feels too bad for you to think that its actually true so you desperately pull this ultimate cope where even though you whine about being an incel and how supposedly everyone else is winning at life you cant actually face that reality, you just wanted people to jack you off in your dogshit meme thread and to tell you that youre totally going to be the next Dante since you cant get pussy and apparently all those people were totally comparable to an anime watching pedophile faggot like you

> it is funny though that the guy who supposedly has it all is waiting impatiently for people to reply to his imageboard posts lol
has what "all" mongoloid? im pretty sure getting two girlfriends wasnt my life goal and I dont literally work 24/7, its over midnight by now and im just drinking coffee, playing a game, watching youtube and coming here to serve your retarded ass whenever I see that 4chan X is giving me a reply notification on the tab. Why do you keep making these vapid cope posts as if the mere act of replying to me somehow prevents you from being clowned on? Fucking imbecile

>> No.16391911

>>16391887
im sorry anon, posting pictures of chad and telling people on the internet how cool you are does not make you chad. chad doesnt have pictures of other men shirtless saved to his pc. i have told you two methods on two different occasions how you can prove yourself. your claims are factually insignificant
>as if I supposedly gave a single fuck about being able to "prove" something as if you believing them changed my life in any way
how much time have you spent writing these long ass replies? apparently you do care lol
>It feels too bad for you to think that its actually true so you desperately pull this ultimate cope where even though you whine about being an incel and how supposedly everyone else is winning at life you cant actually face that reality, you just wanted people to jack you off in your dogshit meme thread and to tell you that youre totally going to be the next Dante since you cant get pussy and apparently all those people were totally comparable to an anime watching pedophile faggot like you
intentional fallacy

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>>16391911
>im sorry anon, posting pictures of chad and telling people on the internet how cool you are does not make you chad.
not an argument
>chad doesnt have pictures of other men shirtless saved to his pc.
how would you know? you dont even have friends. I can do literally what I want, you do what I allow

>i have told you two methods on two different occasions how you can prove yourself. your claims are factually insignificant
to prove fucking what mongoloid? are you genuinely retarded?

>how much time have you spent writing these long ass replies?
maybe a minute per one of them since im not a genetic dead end and even my brains are sharp and far more developed than some third world failures?

come on autist, keep the seething coming. your biggest victory of the week might be tiring me out on these vapid dogshit incel posts so you can sleep easy and tell yourself that the spooky "chad" wasnt real and just "bait"

>> No.16391950

>>16391925
>how would you know? you dont even have friends. I can do literally what I want, you do what I allow
that is gay as heck bro
>to prove fucking what mongoloid? are you genuinely retarded?
prove your unsubstantiated claim of being a chad that is currently insignificant
>come on autist, keep the seething coming. your biggest victory of the week might be tiring me out on these vapid dogshit incel posts so you can sleep easy and tell yourself that the spooky "chad" wasnt real and just "bait"
intentional fallacy, all your posts have been mostly one long intentional fallacy, except for your first couple when i btfo your argument about incels not existing before the culture of promiscuity and you turned to larping. i like how you didnt mention me calling you out on your shit in your "refutation" lol

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>>16391950
>p-prove that y-you are a c-chad lol
what fucking "chad"? I told you what I am like and you desperately ascribed one of your incel meme terms to it again because youre an actual sub 70 IQ retard. I cant even believe you would show this level of pathetic autism to people that youre begging for someone to "prove" that theyre a "chad". How about you prove to me that youre going to kill yourself tonight you stupid fucking faggot. I literally dont give a shit whether or not you "believe" me because clearly this perfectly plausible scenario of a man that wasnt a useless, spineless, low test sack of shit like you and actually got into the game is a completely harrowing nightmare to a loser like you. Keep eating those cheetos and watching that anime fucking faggot

>i-intentional f-fa-fallacy
go kill yourself, you havent "refuted" anything, you just stopped making your garbage bait posts because now youre actually crying since your epically funny trolling and samefagging ended up with someone coming to pull your virtual pants down. Grow up and have sex fucking useless seething manchild

>b-but then i wont achieve anything lol h-haha incels are superior!!1
you havent achieved anything now, weakling pedo. Youre living proof of what a genetic dead end looks like. Theres a world of difference between a seething useless autist like you and a normal adult virgin male. My best friend literally looks like a model and hes still a virgin because he actually doesnt care or try to bend the knee to societal pressure like weak autists like you since he genuinely doesnt care about casual sex with some random woman even though he could probably get literally anyone he wanted if he made a tinder profile. Youre just a coping autistic troglodyte

>> No.16392019

>>16391997
>How about you prove to me that youre going to kill yourself tonight you stupid fucking faggot.
burden of proof fallacy
>you havent achieved anything now, weakling pedo. Youre living proof of what a genetic dead end looks like. Theres a world of difference between a seething useless autist like you and a normal adult virgin male. My best friend literally looks like a model and hes still a virgin because he actually doesnt care or try to bend the knee to societal pressure like weak autists like you since he genuinely doesnt care about casual sex with some random woman even though he could probably get literally anyone he wanted if he made a tinder profile. Youre just a coping autistic troglodyte
(((more unsubstantiated claims)))
>go kill yourself, you havent "refuted" anything, you just stopped making your garbage bait posts because now youre actually crying since your epically funny trolling and samefagging ended up with someone coming to pull your virtual pants down. Grow up and have sex fucking useless seething manchild
not an argument fallacy-kun

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>>16392019
>quote the entire post and then say haha u didnt prove anything lol not an argument

theres nothing to "prove", you were utterly blown the fuck out by the fact that someone came into the fucking thread and told you that youre a useless autistic loser. You said that I should hope that ill be born again as a useless incel like you so I might actually achieve something which is why I told you that I was a useless sack of shit and then I spent years improving myself until I got to where I am, the same time which you spent being a seething useless autist and yet you still somehow pretend to be superior. Its your ultimate pathetic cope and your entire pathetic fantasy of being somehow superior utterly crumbled before your eyes so youre now in complete shambles to the point where you probably dont even recognize your surroundings anymore or cant remember how you dug your own dogshit filled grave in this thread. Go fuck yourself retard

>> No.16392046

>>16392032
>theres nothing to "prove"
ok, good to know youre a loser then
>You said that I should hope that ill be born again as a useless incel like you so I might actually achieve something which is why I told you that I was a useless sack of shit and then I spent years improving myself until I got to where I am, the same time which you spent being a seething useless autist and yet you still somehow pretend to be superior. Its your ultimate pathetic cope and your entire pathetic fantasy of being somehow superior utterly crumbled before your eyes so youre now in complete shambles to the point where you probably dont even recognize your surroundings anymore or cant remember how you dug your own dogshit filled grave in this thread
more intentional fallacy.

>> No.16392058

Why isn't Spinoza there?

>> No.16392072

>>16392046
>ok, good to know youre a loser then
if that helps you sleep at night my ugly smelly autistic "friend"

>> No.16392078

>>16392058
good point. i will add him in for the next thread

>> No.16392082

>>16392072
>i-if th-thats w-what h-helps you -sleep at night
why did you stop working on your epic bait about what an overman you are for being an incel? Are you actually crying behind the monitor? Why are you taking so long to reply with these vapid facebook comments tier cope posts where you pretend like youre still totally in control even though youre being absolutely demolished? Just let it go pajeet, delete the thread and skulk back into the sewer

>> No.16392083

>>16391233
fakecel

>> No.16392097

anyone else here a celcel?

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>>16392082
really? you were blown the fuck out so badly that youre desperately pasting my posts because of what an absolute devastation reading them was for you? pretty telling honestly. Do you think you actually "won" here because someone didnt "prove" that they are a "chad" on /lit/ to you after blowing out your retarded dogshit posts? I literally completely destroyed you and your spineless worldview with a few measly posts. Go fucking kill yourself you stupid seething faggot. Actually makes me howl to think that youre some fat smelly faggot whose going to kill himself in his moms basement while im fucking a carousel of girls and will release my first full novel soon. Keep pretending like youre some enlightened superman though who totally perceives the world in a more deep way now. You know literally nothing of pain and have zero life experience in general, youre just a spineless weakling and women smell it which is why you will never reproduce

>> No.16392140

>>16392097
What’s a celcel? I’m a schizocel, one personality is incel and the other not

>> No.16392248

>>16389752
Kafka swang a lot of peen

>> No.16392517

>>16389809
based

>> No.16392528

>>16390205
There might be truth to this. When I was younger having sex was my end goal but it never halpend until I was 26. Now I don't really crave sex that much even with a girlfriend and would rather spend time with her not having sex. Sex is just annoying to me now and rarely think about it.

>> No.16392558

>>16389752
Plotinus is only an incel if you consider monks and prieists to be incels. Plotinus was celibate and avoided worldly pleasures, but he was well respected by the public and was given orphans to raise.

>> No.16392566

>>16389752
because life is about more than sex. celibacy used to be seen as virtuous. now women have rights and we've regressed to the level of apes. gender equality has made men equal to women in their animality, instead of making women equal to men in their humanity. absolute degradation

>> No.16392609

>>16389752
Dante literally had a wife and three kids, one of whom wrote a book interpreting the Commedia.

What on Earth is wrong with America?
What is wrong with them? What do they even learn in college? What are they paying all of that money for? How can they be so uncultured?

Not to mention Goethe, Plato, Borges...

>> No.16392692

>>16389752
>soiciety and the human condition
aesthetlet. thats never why art was good.

>> No.16392699

>>16390415
BASED

>> No.16392723

>>16391141
holy, imagine having a passive magic barrier
he was OP

>> No.16392727

>>16391415
based, i too have had to resist a great deal of social pressure to fuck but i was actually successful

>> No.16392742

>>16392723
His daemon was literally Apollo.

>> No.16392747

>>16392742
I know nothing about the greeks, though I've been wanting to read plato and aristotle just to read plotinus
what's a daemon in this context?

>> No.16392754

>>16392747
Kind of like a guardian angel that gives you advice. It's translated as "divine sign" sometimes.

>> No.16392789

>>16392754
is this related to their birth day?

>> No.16392926

>>16390189
Props for typing out the Argentinian accent honestly

>> No.16392948

>>16390139
Big dick energy

>> No.16392969

>>16390139
>won the nobel prize with only a high school education
>japanese wife
fucking goals af

>> No.16393073

>>16390415
Бэйзeд

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Let the joyous news be spread, the wicked old Jew at last is dead!

what will this glorious news mean for incels?

>> No.16393209

>>16389752
there is nothing wrong in being incel though

>> No.16393217

>>16392723
his spirit gang > their spirit gang

>> No.16393398

>>16389752
Just gotta make a distinction between “hates women but still craves their attention” which is contemptible and “hates women and so ignores them” which can be based

>> No.16393440

So much of this thread is cancer. Faggots hijacked it and had a pointless argument that led nowhere. GG guys

>> No.16393446

>>16393440
dw anon, join in on the next one once this one hits 300!

>> No.16393455

>>16393446
Yes sir, I will bring my best pajeet insults

>> No.16393466

>>16393455
you bet! we need this thread to stay on the first page

>> No.16393488

>>16393466
>>16393455
Rent a room already.

>> No.16393645

Newton- died a virgin, contributed more to mathematics and science than coomer Einstein. But Einstein's face is more recognized, and appears on t-shirts and posters for normie worship.

>> No.16393709

>>16389752
You should put Schopenhauer

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>>16393645
Both are dangerous.

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16394477

>>16390139
Yes, it makes you a pathetic dysgenic subhuman.

>> No.16395011

>>16389752
kek, not even one of the authors in the picture is actually an incel