/lit/ - Literature

>>16384959
Sounds pretty good. Have a bump

so Proust?

Define enchantment.

Magic is the domain of gods and mages.

>>16384959
horia belcea tier

>>16384959
>rationalism
wut? dont you mean empiricism?

>>16385004
For some idea, see Wordsworth's sonnet:

The world is too much with us; late and soon,
Getting and spending, we lay waste our powers:
Little we see in Nature that is ours;
We have given our hearts away, a sordid boon!
This Sea that bares her bosom to the moon;
The winds that will be howling at all hours,
And are up-gathered now like sleeping flowers;
For this, for everything, we are out of tune;
It moves us not. – Great God! I'd rather be
A Pagan suckled in a creed outworn;
So might I, standing on this pleasant lea,
Have glimpses that would make me less forlorn;
Have sight of Proteus rising from the sea;
Or hear old Triton blow his wreathed horn.

>>16384959
I already wrote it sucka

>>16384959
>capitalism
You've already failed.

Pretty based. Try reading The Master and His Emissary, it talks about how left-brain logical breakdown and mechanistic thinking have changed the world

>>16385042
I know what romantic yearning sounds like but was hoping for something more technical, or is that missing the point?

>>16384959
>guize see capitalism has destroyed yadda yadda

Unironically, rapture has a post on this. He sees the rise of Trump as itself a form of re-enchantment, insofar it helps to “democratize mythmaking”:
pykewater.com/catiline-conspiracy/2020/9/14/trump-and-the-democratization-of-mythmaking

He’s a faggot but makes some good points, desu.

>>16384959
So Ted?

I don't get it, is OP is going to commit a mass shooting

>>16384959
>suggest a plan of action for re-enchanting our perception
Why would anyone want that?

>>16385246
put your trip back on rapture

>>16385749
Swing and a miss, you stupid cunt

Anon I really hate to break it to you but I think it already exists From publisher:

Far from displacing religions, as has been supposed, capitalism became one, with money as its deity. Eugene McCarraher reveals how mammon ensnared us and how we can find a more humane, sacramental way of being in the world.

If socialists and Wall Street bankers can agree on anything, it is the extreme rationalism of capital. At least since Max Weber, capitalism has been understood as part of the “disenchantment” of the world, stripping material objects and social relations of their mystery and sacredness. Ignoring the motive force of the spirit, capitalism rejects the awe-inspiring divine for the economics of supply and demand.

Eugene McCarraher challenges this conventional view. Capitalism, he argues, is full of sacrament, whether or not it is acknowledged. Capitalist enchantment first flowered in the fields and factories of England and was brought to America by Puritans and evangelicals whose doctrine made ample room for industry and profit. Later, the corporation was mystically animated with human personhood, to preside over the Fordist endeavor to build a heavenly city of mechanized production and communion. By the twenty-first century, capitalism has become thoroughly enchanted by the neoliberal deification of “the market.”

Informed by cultural history and theology as well as economics, management theory, and marketing, The Enchantments of Mammon looks not to Marx and progressivism but to nineteenth-century Romantics for salvation. The Romantic imagination favors craft, the commons, and sensitivity to natural wonder. It promotes labor that, for the sake of the person, combines reason, creativity, and mutual aid. In this impassioned challenge, McCarraher makes the case that capitalism has hijacked and redirected our intrinsic longing for divinity—and urges us to break its hold on our souls.

>DUDE IT WAS BETTER WHEN WE BELIEVED IN ELVES AND PIXIES AND SHIT

>>16385774
Were you happier as a child living in fantasy or as an adult living in conviction?

>>16385806
I was pretty precocious. I got in trouble for denying Santa to other kids.

>>16384959
It's been all done before.

>>16385759
It's even worse that you're fellating him in every thread. Are you the guy who calls him 'holy rapture'? or is that just one of you're discord buddies?

>>16385884
I don’t know what the fuck you are talking about
I’ve seen him post some stuff on threads and have followed aspects of his website. Generally like his reading lists and blog. Posted since it seemed relevant.
That’s it for me, that’s the extent. It seems to go a lot deeper for you, though. What happened, anon? Did rapture touch you? Or are you just a jealous little bitch?

>>16385192
We can see it in different ways, but the most interesting is the so-called sacramental vision of reality, an awareness that everything in the universe is connected to everything else and is uniquely loved by God- the world manifests God's love for it (SEE Julian of Norwich's "it will last forever because God loves it"). On a more mundane level, we see the hand of God in everything, working through mechanistic causality to give us glimpses of reality much larger than ourselves but not foreign to our own experience; the universe is simultaneously much vaster and much more our home than we realize.

>>16386105
Your rendering is a little too Christian
Christianity is what threatened enchantment most, which is a Pagan psychology

Nietzsche’s understanding of enchantment in “Truth and Lies in a Nonmoral Sense” is probably the most succinct definition:
“ When every tree can suddenly speak as a nymph, when a god in the shape of a bull can drag away maidens…—and this is what the honest Athenian believed—then, as in a dream, anything is possible at each moment, and all of nature swarms around man as if it were nothing but a masquerade of the gods…”

>>16385040
I think he means empiricism.

>>16384959
This concept is called resacralization, dozens of perennialist/traditionalist thinkers have taken a swing at this already. Guenon, Dumezil, Benoist, Evola to name a few. Check them out or dont and start your own thesis from scratch.

>>16386200
>resacralization
Are there any texts that refer to this idea, but not strictly in the terms of religion?

>>16386232
Most of them are in a neopagan context but the theory behind it transcends religion alone. Dumezils "tripartite" theory would be most applicable to the political aspect of resacralization. Revolt against the modern world by Evola is probably the most extensive text I can think of regarding this, basically covers all bases. There is a journal that has been published called Tyr which is an awesome condensed source for this topic, and has tons of references to other texts that go more in depth.

>>16385042
strange, I just heard this read by OSHO in The Tantra Experience... strange synchronicity, who are your influences?

>muh capitalism
In the garbage it goes.

>>16386314
>McDonaldization is a good thing

16386314
> in the garbage it goes
is this one guy or has it become a meme?

>>16384959
go to bed Heidegger you're time-traveling drunk

>>16384959
>capitalism, rationalism, and relativism have destroyed our sense of enchantment in the world
You should look into Leopardi. He considered the ancient Romans/Greeks as people who were able to live in an enchanted world, and thus could find meaning in it, while we modern men are too rationalistic and disenchanted, and thus life is meaningless. He was the quintessential blackpilled doomer two centuries before we even came up with that word.

> From the same year is Saggio sopra gli errori popolari degli antichi ("Essay on the popular errors of the ancients"), which brings the ancient myths back to life. The "errors" are the fantastic and vague imaginings of the ancients. Antiquity, in Leopardi's vision, is the infancy of the human species, which sees the personifications of its myths and dreams in the stars.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giacomo_Leopardi))

>How did the heroes of the past do what they did, he wondered? How did anyone find the will to achieve anything? Illusion. They were driven by beliefs that were demonstrably vain, by the very errors that Leopardi had trained himself to smell out and deconstruct. On the other hand, how wonderful to believe in such things and to act with energy and intention. No sooner had Leopardi undergone his philosophical, essentially nihilist conversion than his thinking began to revolve around this central paradox: one studied and educated oneself under an imperative to find the truth, yet to live a happy life, which necessarily meant a purposeful active life, one needed to be impelled by illusion, not truth – or certainly not ultimate, philosophical truths.

>So was ‘illusion’ a positive quality? And was it actually better not to know things, at least certain things? In his first major, but very brief poem ‘The Infinite’, written in 1819, the poet, sitting on a hillside, rejoices in the fact that his view is mostly blocked by a hedge. Not seeing the landscape, he can imagine all kinds of things out there beyond the hedge, imagine the infinite, and hence write poetry, something he would not be able to do if he saw the landscape plainly. Freed of a stream of hard information, the imagination is stimulated, which is a pleasure. ‘All that is fixed and certain,’ Leopardi commented in his diary, ‘is much farther from contenting us than that which, by its very uncertainty, can never content us.’ Vagueness has a value in itself.

>while nevertheless swallowing the bitter pill: life is empty and absurd. In ‘Copernicus’ [...] Leopardi satirises human delusions of grandeur, but simultaneously reminds us how attractive it was to think of the Sun being pulled across the sky by a chariot, and how uninspiring is our mechanistic knowledge of the Universe. If our condition is dire, we do have our imagination, he suggests, which we dismiss in favour of scientific fact at our peril.

(https://aeon.co/essays/why-read-the-nihilistic-work-of-giacomo-leopardi-today))

>>16384959
FUCKING MAGNETS HOW DO THEY WORK?

>>16386527
Thank s anon(Not OP but have been thinking about OP's desires too)

>>16384959
Too late

>>16384959
poor man's heidegger

>>16384959
So basically, Marx + Debord.
>>16385673
And Ted.
>>16385773
So that's basically Marx and Engels.
Since the neolithic revolution, humans want having instead of being. Capitalism is living to have, and having to live.

>>16384959
Dugin did this 10 years ago.

>>16385042
Check out this passage from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s Sir Nigel
>In those simple times there was a great wonder and mystery in life. Man walked in fear and solemnity, with Heaven very close above his head, and Hell below his very feet. God’s visible hand was everywhere, in the rainbow and the comet, in the thunder and the wind. The Devil, too, raged openly upon the earth; he skulked behind the hedgerows in the gloaming; he laughed loudly in the night-time; he clawed the dying sinner, pounced on the unbaptized babe, and twisted the limbs of the epileptic.

>>16386557
I don't know how many resources you're going to find about him in English. I know there's a lot of notes/study guides in Italian since he's studied in schools (and teens generally hate him, because he's too pessimistic...). It'd be a shame and a bit ironic if there were few/no translations, since his observations could apply to any human being who has ever lived. He goes straight at the core of human nature and suffering. Maybe you'll be able to find some analyses in scholarly articles on Z-Lib.

>>16386652
>he laughed loudly in the night-time
KINO

>>16384959
>our sense of enchantment
What the fuck is this faggot nonsense? Neck yourself.

>>16384959
>>16384959
>>16384959


Im actually interested in that
Post your main ideas op

>>16384959
I loved this film as a kid

>>16384959
this been done a million times lol fucking retard

somebody already wrote it, but maybe you can do better

Max Weber and a buch of others, me included in my head

sorry man, Mason & Dixon already exists