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Are there any modern Epic Poems? Can such a genre ever make a comeback?

>> No.16372222

>>16372189
Finnegan's Wake? Cantos? Good enough?

>> No.16372250

>>16372189
Levantul by Mircea Cărtărescu

>> No.16372372

>>16372189
magic tree house series.

>> No.16372376

>>16372372
The Freudian sexual themes disturbed me, zoomer.

>> No.16372392

>>16372189
People don't even read normal poetry anymore. Why the fuck would book length epic poetry make a comeback?

>> No.16372397

>>16372189
I'm writing one :)

>> No.16372398

>>16372189
I'm working on one, but it's written by my heteronym who lived on the 19th century.

>> No.16372408

>>16372189
how modern?
the waste land by t s eliot probably qualifies

>> No.16372432

>>16372189
My epic adaptation of the titanomachy might need to wait until I'm retired.

>> No.16372452

>>16372376
you cannot deny it. they are the spiritual successors to the nibelungenlied and Hiawatha.

>> No.16372466

>>16372452
But they didn't have Freudian themes. ):

>> No.16372468

>>16372466
READ THEM AGAIN.

>> No.16372487

>>16372466
what are the obvious impications of the token they got in the first book?

the treehouse itself, the transedental domus of counsiousness, their phenomenological transportation to a new exiting realm that simply expands their noemenogical understanding.

The wizard.

>> No.16372493

pale fire might do it for you?

>> No.16373911

>>16372189
Anathemata
En Parenthesis
Age of Anxiety
Tolkien- Lays of Beleriand
>>16372408
Not really long-form, though.

>> No.16373936

>>16372189
Mireiò by Mistral, France's first literature nobel prize winner. Cruelly underrated book

>> No.16373977

>Dune

>> No.16374017

>>16372468
>>16372487
No the Nibelungenlied and Hiawatha don't have spiritual themes, the tree house is a disgusting exemplification of modern guilt and degeneracy.

>> No.16374336

Peer Gynt

>> No.16374360

>>16372189
Closest is Paterson by William Carlos Williams

>> No.16374365

the most modern one was the ossian poems though they weren't actually new just that they were first publsihed in 1760s.

>> No.16374397

>>16372189
Omeros - never read it, never want to.

>> No.16374501

>>16372189
Modern Epic poems do exist: Omeros, Aniara, Anathemata, etc. the thing is, the form doesn't have the same importance as it once did: they're no longer seen as a tool for moral instruction, the foundation of a culture, nor is the epic seen as the summit of the written word.
Frankly, modern epics are not as well written as their predecessors either (Aniara's shit).

>>16372392
This is true. I think it comes from the perception that modern poetry is either concerned with introspection and feelings, or that it's only accessible to academics.
It's a shame, because first and foremost the epic is about narrative. Until someone can write a poem as accessible and captivating as Orlando Furioso or the Odyssey, the form will remain a literary relic.

>> No.16374514

>>16372189
>Can such a genre ever make a comeback?
yes, but only in a niche way. I don't think it'll ever be mainstream again.

>> No.16374580

>>16374514
When in a healthy heroic society it shall be again.

>> No.16374596

>>16374580
that would require a complete collapse and rebuilding of society

>> No.16374657
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16374657

>>16374596
GOOD

>> No.16374663

>>16374501
>moral instruction, the foundation of a culture, nor is the epic seen as the summit of the written word.
That's certainly how all the modernist epics in the wake of Whitman treat themselves

>> No.16374699

>>16374657
agree, but the ideal of suffering is antithetical to the purpose of society.

>> No.16374796

>>16374017
eat shit.

just because you cannot understand the sublimity of the magic treehouse, you try to lower it to your own base understanding you ingrate.

>> No.16374814

>>16372189
There really aren't poems around being recited, that can be gathered into one story.

>> No.16374835

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epic_poems#20th_century

>> No.16374838

>>16374796
Fug, meant to say "Freudian themes*, not spiritual lmao.

But the magic treehouse is indeed devoid of all spiritual continuum other than a Freudian one.

>> No.16374852

>>16372189
One of my friends has a dream to write a modern sci-fi epic poem in French alexandrine. He's a high-functioning Asperger with a math PhD and already has written a million words for practice, so I pray he's autistic enough to pull it off.

>> No.16374857

>>16374852
>implying it takes autism to write poetry
Let's just pray he has love.

>> No.16374864

>>16374835
In the 21st century there seems to be an impressive contender:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambhadracharya
>an Indian Hindu spiritual leader, educator, Sanskrit scholar, polyglot, poet, author, textual commentator, philosopher, composer, singer, playwright and Katha artist
>Rambhadracharya has been blind since the age of two months, had no formal education till the age of seventeen years, and has never used Braille or any other aid to learn or compose.
>Rambhadracharya can speak 22 languages and is a spontaneous poet[δ] and writer in Sanskrit, Hindi, Awadhi, Maithili, and several other languages.[16][17] He has authored more than 100 books and 50 papers,[11][18][19] including four epic poems

This guy sounds like a bona fide Homer.

>> No.16374869

>>16374857
It takes some degree of autism to complete an epic poem nowadays. But he does have love.

>> No.16375151

>>16372222
Quads of truth