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>finally decide to read phaedro
>have a complete understanding of ideal forms and how they correspond to reality
>begin lose my fear of death and fear itself, now armed with a method of disobjectification from the body
>know for a fact that the soul not only exists, but it is immortal, permanent, and not subject to change
>the rest of my life can now be moved with the intent to gain remembrance of forms and The One, and unify my body to the ideal soul-vibration that my body is picking up

thank you plato...thank you greeks...

>> No.16356130

>>16356118
read kant

>> No.16356138

>>16356130

probably not ready yet

>> No.16356140

>>16356118
Read the Parmenides now (not the guy, the dialog).

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16356143

>I bully people who like to read books

>> No.16356148

>>16356143
who are you quoting?

>> No.16356164

>>16356148
the miserable

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>>16356143

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blessed thread

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>>16356118
>Reality isn’t real
>I will live forever!

The power of schizophrenia

>> No.16356699

Which plato work deals with the immortality of the soul?

>> No.16356768

>>16356699
my diary desu

>> No.16356775

>>16356118
more like gaedo

>> No.16356786

>>16356594
shut the fuck up you stupid bitch

>> No.16356787
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>>16356118
Late Plato roots the Forms in the Instance and you now have to face death, but the essential gist is still there, sorry pal but that's just how Parmenides is.

Also the Phaedo is a very beautiful dialogue.

>> No.16356800

>>16356786
Not a good argument

>> No.16356807

>>16356118
Now read Plato's pharmacy

>> No.16356814

>>16356800
It wasn't an argument you stupid bitch. If you weren't such a stupid bitch you might have noticed it was an order in the imperative.

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>>16356118
You didn't overcome your fear of death, you surrendered to it most ultimately.

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>>16356814

>> No.16356837

>>16356118
Congratulations, life is still meaningless and one day you will die and be forgotten. This revelation changes nothing.

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>>16356118
Baste

>> No.16356844

>>16356828
>dduuuuurrr post mmmeeem
Migrate to /tv/ or some shit you stupid fucking cunt.

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>>16356837
>le ebin nihilism
>we are just a speck in the universe bro, heat death of the universe bro

>> No.16356873

>>16356849
>Dismisses nihilism categorically as a philosophical concept that should be engaged with
I don't know why that makes you smarter than that anon desu

>> No.16356884

>>16356873
Heidegger engaged with it to its fullest.

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16356885

>>16356873
You are just spitting buzzwords at this point

>> No.16356887

>>16356873
It's just two sides of the same coin, both of them operating from the assumption that permanence and timelessness is ultimate.
Place change as the focus of your metaphysics and an entirely different view emerges.

>> No.16356893

Go fall into pits of delusion somewhere else and stop shitting up my board with your pathetic goober memes

>> No.16356906

>>16356849
Sorry I don't pretend that the stupid shit people attach importance to matters. The fact is one day you were born, one day you will die. Everything that happens inbetween is irrelevant.

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>>16356893
>everyone ignored my post so i'm going to bump this thread again and write a bait response
Now I know you're a woman and not a tranny

>> No.16356910

>>16356893
>pooper goober maymay duuuuuuuurr pooper goober maymay booger pooper booger poopee poopee booger
Shut the fuck up.

>> No.16356923

>>16356906
>Everything that happens inbetween is irrelevant.
Irrelevant TO WHAT? What is relevant?

>> No.16356929

>>16356923
In general.

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>>16356118
Now read Sextus Empiricus and liberate yourself from dogmatist copes.

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>>16356906
>tries to define life as a mere vapid thing with no importance because being born and dying are the only things "everyone does" and quoting an edgy phrase he saw on this board

>> No.16356940

>>16356932
Pickle Nick is a pseud

>> No.16356944

>>16356932
based pickle nick

>> No.16356945

>>16356887
No, Plato already handled both the Op's view and yours. Furthermore so did Heidegger.

>> No.16356950

>>16356940
>>16356944
Behold, the duality of man.

>> No.16356957

>>16356929
"In general?" what does that even mean?

>> No.16356964

>>16356957
Idk man I think he means "In general".

>> No.16356969

>>16356932
Mere vapid thing is actually pretty accurate. It's why I reject the concept of "depth" (as in whether a subject or person is "shallow" or "deep") because saying something is "deep"is attaching importance to something meaningless.

>> No.16356982

>>16356964
What is relevant to absolutely everything?
Does something need to be relevant to absolutely everything, to be relevant to anything?

>> No.16357002

>>16356982
>What is relevant to absolutely everything?
Nothing
>Does something need to be relevant to absolutely everything, to be relevant to anything?
Nobody cares. This whole question reeks of gay philosophaggotry.

>> No.16357003

>>16356982
>What is relevant to absolutely everything?
Death

>Does something need to be relevant to absolutely everything, to be relevant to anything?
Yes

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>>16356969

>> No.16357012

>>16356594
>us modern people are super smart and super special
>literally everyone in history believed in fairy tales
>but not us MODERN people
>we know what the REAL world is
>heh, idiots
You are so fucking stupid and you have no idea.

>> No.16357021

>>16357003
>Death
Shut the fuck up retard. This is the kind of cringe tryhard bullshit that makes people think this is what nihilists actually believe.

>> No.16357023

>>16357012
He's been dehumanized

>> No.16357028

>>16357012
I have never seen moth post anything that wasn't unbearably smug and totally fucking retarded.

>> No.16357059

>>16357021
So, name something that matters that isn't just a societal or personal level or shut the fuck up.

>> No.16357068

>>16357059
Nothing matters dipshit. If you were actually a nihilist and not some fucking stupid faggot going through a phase you'd have figured it out and kept it to yourself.

>> No.16357168

>>16357068
I never claimed to be a nihilist. I never claimed to be anything.

>> No.16357184

>>16357168
Shut the fuck up faggot. Go bitch and moan about death somewhere somebody gives a shit.

>> No.16357248

>>16357184
Sure whatever. Enjoy your continuous pointless conversations.

>> No.16357259

>>16357248
>Enjoy your continuous pointless conversations.

>> No.16357390

>>16357012
>But the ancients where a hundred tomes smarter than we are now!
For you

>> No.16357421

>>16357390
Go smear some more skidmarks on your crusty pus stained underwear you stupid bitch.

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>>16357421
>the christian crapoholic tranny shows himself once more

>> No.16357473

>>16357457
>literally brags about shitting themselves and posts their shit smears on the regular
Go make your own pantshitting forum instead cunt.

>> No.16357494

>>16356893

the moth has been angered...

>> No.16357507

>>16356118

Congratulations anon! If only some of the hylics who also post here could share but a morsel of your illumination

>> No.16357522

>>16357507
OP is trolling

>> No.16357546

>>16357522
>waaaaah waaaaaaah O-OP is trolling mommy OP is TROOOOOOOOLIIIIIIING
Cry more bitch.

>> No.16357556

>>16357546
Really. I was christian. I had my shopping around for a firmer faith period. That’s all these trolls are saying. We get hundreds of threads with the same bullshit lone “I was an atheist, but came running back to the church!” It’s like those faith healers pulling “random” people up out of wheelchairs. I see through it.
GO COPE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

>> No.16357570

>>16357390
not what i said
you're simply a product of your time
you've bought into the propaganda of the age
a devout believer of its teachings
you are the new religious
blind to any and all that runs contrary to your religious and unreasonable beliefs regarding reason

>> No.16357581

>>16357556
>Really. I'm a stupid bitch. I had my shopping around for a firmer log of shit period. That’s all these trolls are saying. We get hundreds of threads with the same bullshit lone “I was poopy, but came running back to boogers and cum” It’s like those boogies and cummies people piss up out of shit ass. I see through it.

>> No.16357591

>>16356118
Read schopehaur

>> No.16357605

>>16357570
>not what i said
Oh
>you’re devout
I am not.
Not everything is religion

>>16357581
Indeed. A foolish period in my life I came out of embarrassingly late

>> No.16357616

>>16357605
>A foolish period in my life I came out of
>I came out of
No, you didn't.

>> No.16357639

>>16357556
>I was christian
???
That's cool, but Plato wasn't. What does that have to do with Phaedro.

>> No.16357666

>>16357639
It doesn't have anything to do with anything. Moth is fucking senile. Constantly posts total gibberish. Drooling lobotomite retard.

>> No.16357709

>>16357666
Moth is the typical Nietzschean who hasn't actually read Nietzsche

>> No.16357717

>>16357639
Being against this general supposition of an afterlife, christfags around here mix Platonic for s and their immortalist soul.

>> No.16357720

>>16357709
I have a read a large portion of him though.

>> No.16357727

>>16357720
Funny how you turned out to be an inverse cripple who rejects the metaphysical

>> No.16357732

>>16357709
Probably thinks The Gay Science has something to do with all that hardcore lesbian cuntbusting ryona she won't shut the fuck up about.

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>>16357732

>> No.16358150

>>16356594
>realoty isn't real
Read Timaeus. The sensible cosmos is real, and, apart from the Ideal world, it is the most beautiful and good thing there is.

>> No.16358167

>>16356787
What do you mean? In both Timaeus and Laws Plato keeps supporting the reincarnation doctrine. The only difference is that escaping that cycle now means that you reincarnate into an immortal sensible being (he thought that a good candidate would be celestial beings, but this identification is not necessary for the argument to work) capable of perfect contemplation of the Forms.