/lit/ - Literature

>>16351509
Critique of Pure Reason

George Floyd was 47.

>>16351583
I could have excelled at everything the University of Edinburgh has to offer

>>16351509
He is pretty easy to understand compared to other philosophers.Check this out:
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https://as.nyu.edu/content/nyu-as/as/faculty/don-garrett.html

>>16351583
Shut up bigot, he could've become a trillionaire entrepreneur if he got to live out just a few more years before getting mugged and shot by another respectable African African businessman at a meth deal

The best way to "protest" this is to read more Hume (they don't want you to do this).

>Replacing one of the most important thinkers in the canon with a violent nigger who's only achievement was dying of an overdose
I really feel like we're living in a twiligth zone lads

>>16351509
Controversial suggestion: The History of Great Britain has the single best historical narrative prose in the anglo tradition

>naming your building after someone who's only achievement is being a dead porn actor

I hate pigs as much as the next guy but valorizing and turning them into martyrs is a pointless effort

>>16352145

It's self-flagellation. The more humiliating the better.

>>16351583
But did he identify as 47?

>lets rename our uni building after a dead junkie

Why are euros so insistent on slurping up our toxic waste. They really do want to die out or something

I CAN'T BREATHE

It's making me angry just reading about it. How come the rest of you are so calm?

>>16352404
There's no hope, fren

>>16352404
You'll become demoralised soon enough. At that point, the best thing to do is accept we are being replaced, and try to live a comfy little life on the periphery of a dying society.

>>16351509
>not naming the university after him
what's wrong with euros? are they that racist?

>>16352404
I live in canada, we get this shit daily.
I gave up on nice things in public.

>>16352404
I'm speechless.

>>16351583
We wuz assassins n sheit

Ugly fucking tower.The new name fits.

>thought this was a dumb troll thread
>googled it

>>16352404
bronze age mindset. we will be vindicated.

>>16352404
I have accepted we're living in a clown world and just learned to roll with it.

Why do euros do shit like this? My university refuses to tear down a statue of a civil war general/governor/university president. He actually massacred some natives, too. Why are Scots giving a shit about African Americans, are there even black people there?

>>16352404

honk honk welcome to the clown world

cant believe you guys see this and think "oh yeah, that can sort of happen". im mad as shit and im from latinamerica.

>>16352615
they want woke points

I am troubled by naming buildings after anything to begin with. Why wouldn't you give a name to a building that gave you information about either its purpose or its location?

I mean "South eastern classroom building" or "Liberal arts building by the river" or "12th street and 3rd avenue building" would be much better names for a building than "Dave's building " ever was. I mean, what does that even tell you? And what good does it do to rename it “Sarah’s building?”

You all should really start to wonder a little deeper about how things are managed. It is how you finally mature into an entity that can see when you are creating your own obstacles, especially the obstacles that then create the you that creates them. Otherwise you will never get out of the corner you have painted yourself into. Doing that would honor David Hume more than any name on a building.

>>16352404
ive come to accept it, if they want to destroy civilization so badly, i cant stop them.

I have deep contempt for universities

Are scots the most cucked on that whole shithole islabd?

>>16351509
this is a marketing stunt and you are the inept simpletons who ensure it is effective, as long as you engage in the trivial culture war the trivial culture war will continue to thrive, everything that annoys you on the internet is your fault, it only exists because it annoys you

>>16354109
>universities doing this kind of stuff for marketing
That could arguably be an even bigger reason to get angry over this shit.

>>16351509
Isnt london like an extralegal non-state devoted to international finance? Theres some sort of fucked up legal thing there, no? Like that city inside of Las Vegas with different laws except for maintaining finances for international black and grey markets?

>>16352404
It angers me too but I can accept it’s just leftist loonies in Edinburgh until everyone becomes leftist loonies.

The tower hasn’t been named after George Floyd, it’s just not named after Hume anymore. Regardless, I only have a year left at Edinburgh and then I’ll finally be free. The entire place is full of virtue-signalling Home Counties pricks and entitled international students.

>>16354159
>it’s just not named after Hume anymore.
Why would they do that?

Commies on /lit/ will still deny that any of this is happening

>>16354159
>The tower hasn’t been named after George Floyd
it has. why would you lie, you piece of shit?

>>16354175
A campaign group started after the petition was made which made a big fuss about it. The petition to change the name got 1750 votes despite the student population being 40,000. It’s classic pandering. The girls behind the activist group originally wanted the name changed to be the Julius Nyerere Tower, but the petition was amended after they read his Wikipedia page and found out about his massive civil rights abuse and homophobia. It’s a shambles.

>>16354209
Okay mate

>>16354124
it's called capitalism and it's the hot new thing

>>16354141
are you 50?

>>16354159
the home counties are the first and only place touched by true civilization, watch your fucking mouth

>>16354234
What is 40 George in reference to?

>>16354239
Just wait until you meet your 400th leopard-print flared Georgia-who-studies-Fine Art, posts black squares on her Instagram, thinks David Hume is a racist even though she only heard his name for the first time yesterday, and can’t understand why her working-class mates can’t make it to her bi-weekly avocado and matcha latte brunch.

>>16354260
The building is in George Square; the building next to it is called 50 George Square, for example.

>>16354274
why am I waiting for this?

>>16354294
Because, after that, you’ll understand why I despise the Home Counties.

>>16354239
>it's called capitalism and it's the hot new thing
Capitalism existed for centuries before this shit started happening. Get a new boogeyman

>>16354285
If you read the press release, they're clearly linking the name change to old meth head floyd, but not going so far as to say it's actually named after him. Pretty pathetic all round. They should just go all out.
George Square seems a pretty racist, imperialist name as well, better sort that out.

>>16354285
I see. So probably what it was before they decided to honour Hume by renaming it? I'll just be content with the fact that eventually all these parasites that will have things named after them that pulled this shit will have them stripped away when the pendulum swings.
>>16354308
Yes, interesting that capitalism is idealism, white picket fences and the nuclear family when they want to destroy tradition and then it is also the degeneracy after the fact.

>>16352615
>why do euros
UK isnt Europe

>>16351509
And to think I used to dream of attending the University of Edinburgh.

>>16354234
surely a coincidence.

>>16352404
Hume's (and British) empiricism *caused* this in the first place LMAO

Europeans should not be allowed to have opinions of American politics/social problems. It's all just reality TV to them anyway.

>>16354344
I’m not sure on the history of the building, but as far as I know it’s been David Hume Tower since it’s construction. 40 George Square is technically it’s address though, yes.
>>16354324
Perhaps, although I think that’s a bit tenuous. I’m sure some fruit on whatever committee decided it has noticed the connection, though.

>>16352404
It makes me happy they also cancelled George Bernard Shaw today as well. Can't wait for when they discover Marx hated niggers as well.

>>16354373
The building is literally in George Square, it is a coincidence.

>>16352404
if you stay on the constant outrage train you go insane

>Elizabeth Lund, who started the online petition, wrote alongside it that Hume "wrote racist epithets not worth repeating."
>She said: "Nobody is demanding we erase David Hume from history. However, we should not be promoting a man who championed white supremacy."
is she on the right? was Hume some sort of grandmaster klansman?

Bullshit fake American post.

The University of Edinburgh doesn't have a dean. It's not an American college. There is a Principal, but he's not called 'John Bruce' (monosyllabic American chad name).

The tower is being renamed 40 George Square (because it's number 40, George Square). Yes, it's a disaster.

The Americanisation of our society, whether by woke extremists demanding diversity, or brainlet conspiracy-fascists, is an absolute disgrace. Keep your culture war to yourselves.

Why do they do this? Do all the high profile black applicants see a tower named to David Hume and go OH SHIIIIIITTTT HELL NAH AINT GOIN THERE. What is the rationalization of it

>>16354486
this is from the edinburgh university page:
>https://www.ed.ac.uk/news/students/2020/equality-diversity-and-inclusion-an-update
>Equality, Diversity and Inclusion - an update
>An update on the work of the University’s Equality & Diversity Committee and its Race Equality and Anti-Racist Sub-committee.

>The work of the University’s Equality & Diversity Committee and its Race Equality and Anti-Racist Sub-committee has continued over the summer. It has been further energised following the killing in May of George Floyd and the ongoing campaigning by the Black Lives Matter movement. Our Race Equality and Anti-Racist Action Plan is accelerating and amplifying our efforts.

>It is important that campuses, curricula and communities reflect both the University’s contemporary and historical diversity and engage with its institutional legacy across the world. For this reason the University has taken the decision to re-name – initially temporarily until a full review is completed – one of the buildings in the Central Area campus.

>From the start of the new academic year the David Hume Tower will be known as 40 George Square.

>The use of the building will also change: a shortage of study space because of the social distancing requirements means that the building is being re-purposed to provide additional student study space for 20/21.

>The interim decision has been taken because of the sensitivities around asking students to use a building named after the 18th century philosopher whose comments on matters of race, though not uncommon at the time, rightly cause distress today.

>This is ahead of the more detailed review of the University’s links to the past in the context of meaningful action and repair; this work is ongoing and is considering many other issues beyond the naming of buildings. It is a substantial exercise of research, engagement and reflection, upon which we will be able to adopt refreshed and appropriate policies on a range of issues such as the future naming of buildings as well as how we should commemorate our history more generally. The city of Edinburgh is also undertaking a similar review and the University is in discussions with the civic leaders about subjects which affect us both.
youre the fake here.

>>16351509
At least it's temporary pending a full review, where hopefully they'll come to their senses and keep its original name.

>>16354515
some roastie >>16354483 started an online petition and got 1000 signs (prob people that arent even from the uni, let alone the country).

>>16354515
Doing nothing while trying to pretend they're doing something.

im really fatigued of n

>>16354550
i

>>16354530
Why are you people so fucking dumb.

The post is still fake.

Can you understand the difference between renaming a building 50 George Square because it is number 50 George Square, with literally naming it after some dude in America?

Can you read? Can you see that this press release is different to the one in the image?

Are you capable of critical thought? Are you capable of understanding how a made-up story, based on an original truth, is still a made-up story?

Do you understand what fiction is?

>>16354515
The original petition was made by Lund, a white student who was clearly just looking to virtue signal. It was then jumped on by a group called Edi Black Activism, who hosted a virtual debate where they harassed and censored any people with dissenting opinions and then concluded that the name must change. Your characterisation is pretty much spot on.

Mental midgets can't tolerate the fact that history is uncomfortable sometimes so they try to erase is.

>>16354569
The charge of erasing history was made of the group trying to change it, and their response was along the lines of ‘history changes all the time, we are not erasing Hume, just not celebrating him anymore’. Essentially the same line that any dictator would take when they wipe the history of a political rival or an uncomfortable fact from the books.

>>16352404
take the clown pill brother

Why do black people ruin everything they touch?

>>16354564
you doubling down only confirms your fakeness, i despise you, you serpent.

>>16354606
Restating the facts doesn't confirm fakeness.

I know this board has a few schizos but is it really that difficult to distinguish fantasy from reality?

from liz lund, roastie virtue signaler extraordinaire, who did the online petition:
>https://www.rattlerood.com/post/why-david-hume-tower-should-be-renamed
>‘I am apt to suspect the n*groes to be naturally inferior to the whites. There scarcely ever was a civilised nation of that complexion, nor even any individual eminent in either action or speculation... the most rude and barbarous of the whites...have still something eminent about them...such a uniform and constant difference could not happen...if nature had not made an original distinction between these breeds of men...In Jamaica, indeed, they talk of one n*groe as a man of parts and learning: but it is likely he is admired for slender accomplishments, like a parrot, who speaks a few words plainly.’ (1)

>In just this short paragraph, Hume has claimed the following: not only are Black people inferior to white people, but there is an inherent difference created by nature that makes white people superior. Even when presented with evidence to the contrary Hume likens the Jamaican man to a parrot who has learned to talk. This quote dehumanises Black people, demeans Black people, and reinforces the foundations of white supremacy. The effects of this racist piece of writing were momentous.

>Hume’s footnote echoes the racist sentiments expressed through eugenics. This is an important context to have, especially when discussing the University of Edinburgh, which served as a hotbed of phrenology, or the science of measuring the skull. By measuring the skull, scientists believed they were able to determine propensities, e.g. destructiveness, ideality, secretiveness; sentiments which were separated into lower and superior where the latter delineates humans from animals, e.g. cautiousness and benevolence respectively, and faculties, or ability to perceive the outside world. Phrenologists would measure the skull of white people and find that they possessed benevolence, ideality, wit, veneration, et cetera. Then, phrenologists would measure the skull of people of colour, and find combativeness, destructiveness, amativeness, no superior sentiments, and, in essence, deem that person of colour undesirable. In this sense, then, phrenology was used as a scientific justification for racism. This ‘science’ had proven that white people were genetically superior to people of colour.

>Which then, in turn, was used to justify colonialism and slavery.

>While that may seem like a jump, it becomes more clear when you look at the justifications for colonialism that were used by those committing the atrocities. Without white intervention, it was claimed, these countries, throughout the modern-day global South, would never be ‘civilised.’

>>16352404
This insanity has to end someday right bros?

>>16351509
literally insane, floyd has never even set foot in the UK, I doubt his dumb n*gger brain could even point to it on a map.

>>16354621
>schizo calls me schizo
classic.

How about the following: whoever tries to cancel people like this has to provide a rigorous academical refutation of the writings in concern and show that not only were they factually incorrect based on modern scientific knowledge, but that their arguments were morally inconsistent and fallacious.

>>16354723
its a new creed or religion, they wont provide proof, theyre beyond proof. you cant reason with them.

>>16354140
London has a weird little financial district confusingly called "The City of London" inside of it that is the weird non-state. Most people in London don't live or work in it. I don't know what kind of shenanigans go on there exactly, but it mostly exists as real estate for banks to be headquartered on, so you can bet your ass it's something cartoonishly evil.

>>16354723
There has been a de facto ban on arguing the actual evidence for and against race differences for like 60 years(which is I assume the main reason Hume was cancelled, his comments on races). Some fringe scientists slipped through the cracks up until the 00s I guess, but they were ostracized by the majority of academia.

Even people who are very free speech like Noam Chomsky have argued that there is no purpose in researching this subject because the only person who would or could care about such results is a racist.

>>16354753
Are they scared of the results or something?

>>16354753
It's so perverse, if we talked about the 85 IQ thing we could take more steps to ameliorate it. Leftists claim it's things like lead poisoning, so let's fix that. But it gets swept under the rug altogether because they're secretly terrified it might not all be environmental and that'll come out if it's openly discussed. But why? It's like we'll suddenly start sterilizing people or anything like that if there is a genetic component, society has moved on.

>>16354723
uhhh so what we’re definitely NOT gonna do is gatekeep conversations on race by reinforcing the white-normative narrative that truth is an objectively achievable state and not a subjective experience dictated to by one’s socioeconomic and racial status

>>16352404
no point being angry fren, just live a nice life

>>16354753
>Even people who are very free speech like Noam Chomsky have argued that there is no purpose in researching this subject because the only person who would or could care about such results is a racist.

How recent is that sentiment by him? Because, in the past, he was quite for open Holocaust denial as it was a free speech issue. So, I'm wondering if his free speech stance on controversial subjects changed since then.

>>16354779
Leftist slippery slopes are very real and rightoid ones are paranoia. Basically it

>>16352615
>Why are Scots giving a shit about African Americans, are there even black people there?
Silly mutt, Edinburgh is all English uni students. There are no scottish people in Edinburgh

>>16354753
but there is a difference here since they are trying to argue against Hume, a person from the 18th century, who provides arguments which have to be refuted to show that in his framework he is wrong and actively mean-spirited. Hume's arguments and phrenology and such seem like the first steps in trying to investigate any regular scientific issue and the question whether or not different races are equal or different seems very pressing in an age without anthropology or a concept of evolution, especially because the question of political equality hung in the air a couple of years before the French Revolution. Otherwise you can accept not engaging in the argument and move on letting the past be the past.

Unlike the 2000 people who signed the petition, I doubt Hume's clothes were stitched together by Bangladeshi children.

>>16354742
(City of) London has its own private police force and everything. They also have lots of their own rules that won't apply anywhere else in London. When I was younger I was almost arrested in City for skateboarding, because it is literally classified as an illegal act the minute you do it in the district

>>16354812
He was never 'for open Holocaust denial', this is a mischaracterisation of him by stupid Frenchies who were angry because he dissed their bloated pseudo-intellectual nonsense philosophy.

>>16354873
Well, I shouldn't have said open denial, but that it should be allowed if one wants to question it.

>>16354873
Did he not write a foreword or intro to a Holocaust denial book?

>>16354753
isn't Chomsky's argument a bit disingenuous? I would agree if racism wasn't the world's most debated topic today. It's not even like making scientific investigations into whether one God is better than another, this is a physical thing and having to fall into relativism just to determine the desirable outcome before the argument is just making matters worse. You can still uphold liberal morality without the equality of races.

>>16354975
I think Chomsky may have said that back during the more 'colourblind' days, where it might make some sense.

>>16354742
We cant expect god to do all the work.
Somehow somebody's got to make sure they get what's coming to em.

>>16352404
Don't get angry, get even

>>16351509
Empiricism and Subjectivity

>>16354141
>leftist
That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

>>16354657
>In just this short paragraph, Hume has claimed the following: not only are Black people inferior to white people, but there is an inherent difference created by nature that makes white people superior.
That isn't actually what it says though.

>>16351583
Kek

>>16355549
what are you implying, glow nigger?

>>16355574
give it up

>>16355589
>t. libfag tranny

>>16355593
Let me ask you a question, has anything ever been gained by your chirping about leftism meaning only socialism and not liberalism?

>>16354812
Chomsky is just a puppet. He probably got his leash rattled by his owners.

I feel this type of decision by the Dean of the University has an element of deliberate outrage baiting intended.

The Dean is obviously attracting controversy and virtue signalling simultaneously. Status and virtue is so important to these types.

The fact they would permit this denigration of an important British philosopher shows how little regard they have for their nation and its accomplishments.

>>16355600
Yes.

>>16355619
And that would be?

>>16355600
>just give in to the ruling class, bro. let them assrape you all day and night

>>16355628
The greatest obstacle to working class solidarity is the conflation of anticapitalism with fringe cultural stances alien to the masses of working people. Nothing will ever improve until that manufactured association is broken.

>>16355650
No they understand perfectly well that communists are not the same thing as the progressive liberals. They hate both liberals and communists and refer to them as a group which they call leftists. If anything they just view communists as the even more insane version of progressive liberals.

>>16355659
Who is "they"?

>>16355630
Mate, are you fucking retarded? Please tell how these fags aren't leftists, because they surely aren't right wingers. In case you didn't notice you have 2 (TWO) hands. A left hand and a right hand. So you gotta choose where you put these liberals and considering they are constantly screeching about muh equality and muh capitalism (yes, they actually do this) then I don't see how they can't be leftists. In fact, they are leftists by the very first definition of the political spectrum so I guess it's time for you to COPE

>George Floyd could have been the next David Hume

My fucking god he was a 46 year old security guard. Being murdered doesn't make you a budding genius. I don't much care who they name buildings after but please this is so woke it exposes the patronising white savior complex actually driving this behaviour.

>>16352404
That which was is that which will be, and that which was done is that which will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.

There is a thing of which one would say, “See this, it is new.” It already has been in the eons that were before us.

>>16355667
Imagine being this retarded.

>>16355659
Leftists are so caught up in their own political paradigm that they don't understand that from the outside the things they have in common with liberals are more important than their differences.

>>16355682
uh wtf are you talking about??

>>16355679
Only people who oppose the Enlightenment and the French Revolution and its ideals can be considered right wingers

>>16355682
There are only two real choices in politics: leftism or liberalism. If you reject one, you must accept the other.

Why is it that saying Racist things disqualifies your name from being put on a building but not aggravated robbery?

>>16351509
>french hands did this no doubt

>>16355691
That's like 11 incels larping online. Nobody in the real world wants to get rid of indoor plumbing and democracy.

>>16355694
>There are only two real choices in politics:
What politics? By the definition of leftism made up by the commiefags in this board there's a few dozens of leftists in the entire world at most. If you mean mainstream politics then there's only 1 option and it's liberalism (aka leftism).
>>16355704
>Nobody in the real world wants to get rid of democracy.
Marxists do

>>16355686
The differences between liberals and leftists are meaningless to those looking on the outside.
>>16355694
Just because your political disposition lobotomizes you, doesn't mean everyone else is completely lacking in political imagination.

>>16355733
>there's a few dozens of leftists in the entire world at most
Lmao. The vast majority of the world are economic populists, retard. They don't cheer for their own impoverishment like Amerilard retards in the deep south.

>Marxists do
Marxism is a method of analysis in political economy, it doesn't "want" anything. If you mean socialists, then you couldn't be more wrong. Socialism is economic democracy.

>>16355667
>I don't understand, I have TWO hands, what the fuck do you mean there are things in the world with more than two categories

>>16351594
Based.

>>16352404
embracing monke wasn't just a dumb meme
leave civilization behind before it takes you with it

>>16355676
>Being murdered
Floyd wasnt even murdered. he chimped out so he was treated harshly but there has never been proved a deliberate choice to intentionally kill him.

>>16355694
>leftism
>viable, realistic choice
lmao commies as delusional as always

>>16355766
>The vast majority of the world are economic populists
Wrong. The vast majority of the WEST (because NOTHING outside of it besides Russia and China matter) is liberal. If you believe in such a thing as RIGHTS then you are a liberal.
>Marxism is a method of analysis in political economy, it doesn't "want" anything. If you mean socialists, then you couldn't be more wrong. Socialism is economic democracy.
>what is proletarian dictatorship

>>16352404
No point to get angry over this garbage, there's no hope for this garbage World anyway.

>>16352404
The game's been honked from the start, bucko

>>16354140
The City (big C) of London is the original Roman city, aka the Square Mile. This predates Bong as a state and therefore occupies a weird legal status where it sort-of recognises Britain and is a part of it but has all its own shit

Globohomo pretty much operates out of there

>>16351509

>>16354324
My favourite part of the Clown World arc so far is that woke retards are accomplishing all of /pol/'s goals for them

They're literally tearing down the Enlightenment

It's named after George Square the street it is located on. The street being named after King George III. Don't agree with changing the name, but also don't agree with people who repost garbage from twitter without actually looking into the details.

>>16355691
poststructuralists are right wing after all!

>>16352404
I used to think existence was a tragedy. Now I realize, it's a comedy.

>>16352404
You eventually become numb to the onslaught of clownery... or you become like me, eternally internally seething.

>>16352615
Edinburg is full of Americans and Brits.

>>16351509
this is a joke right ?

>>16351509
He already had a masters in pharmacology

>>16358344
So report the thread faggot. All twitter posts are just /pol/itics shit with a retarded text where the entire thread is dumb /pol/tard replies. Report for off-topic and move on

>>16352404
I'm past anger and into the calmness phase. I've been radicalized already. I am ready for the war.

I wonder if Berkeley (both the city and university) will change their names. They wouldn't want to continue honoring a slave owner after all.

>>16354841
>>16358403
Plenty of scots though?

>>16354540
Still shows what spineless institutions are universities while acting as protectors of truth or something. They should get defunded.

Apparently Hume took part in human trafficking. How do you fellas feel about it?

>>16358445
(1) It's not true
(2) I wouldn't care if it were true
(3) Hope you die in a gulag

>>16358422
I didn’t say there are no Scots.

>>16354657
I hate women so much.

>>16351509
Hume writes like an asshole. He probably would be a BLM member.

>>16354260
It's the address dummy.
40 George Square

Is there a credible source for the quote in the OP?

>>16358451
1) yes it's true https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/david-hume-was-brilliant-philosopher-also-racist-involved-slavery-dr-felix-waldmann-2915908
2) you don't vare about human trafficking?
3) sounds like a big a cope

>>16352615
The UK is more American than European.

>>16351509

Dive straight in, the British empiricists are very readable (maybe exlcluding Reid, ironically).

>>16358533
>slaves
>humans

>>16358570
Slaves are human beings, of course. Why do you disagree? If I make you my slave will you stop being a human?

>>16352404
Become one with the clown world, embrace the prank

>>16358610
Unironically yes

>>16352404
These things are outside of my control, Is rather spend time focusing on things that I can control.

>>16354569
>uncomfortable
They just say they're uncomfortable, but I don't really believe most of them are, it's really a power move.

>>16352404
all boomers and Xers are mentally ill

>>16358335
>They're literally tearing down the Enlightenment
Good. The last European philosopher worth reading was Aristotle.