/lit/ - Literature

>>16280918
It should also be said he had an effect, if small, on T.S. Eliot.

I want an answer dammit!

Bump.

Well what have you studied from him? He’s an egomaniac genius of the highest caliber. It is extremely hard to grasp his work when he just did pretty much all of it himself. Wrote the music, the librettos, designed the customs and stages (I haven’t looked this up but from what I learnt in my bachelors this is true for some operas). Tristan una Isolde is probably his best work, Tannhauser his most accessible (and it still is pretty dense), and the ring is just another thing in itself. Pick one opera and listen to it while reading the libretto or something. He’s too controversial to praise in the modern music world these days, those antisemitic rants he went on...

>>16281438
>those antisemitic rants he went on...
Yeah pretty based Ikr. And what are your thoughts on Parsifal?

>Clever though be the many thoughts expressed by mouth or pen about the invention of money and its enormous value as a civiliser, against such praises should be set the curse to which it has always been doomed in song and legend. If gold here figures as the demon strangling manhood's innocence, our greatest poet shews at last the goblin's game of paper money. The Nibelung's fateful ring become a pocket-book, might well complete the eerie picture of the spectral world-controller. By the advocates of our Progressive Civilisation this rulership is indeed regarded as a spiritual, nay, a moral power; for vanished Faith is now replaced by "Credit," that fiction of our mutual honesty kept upright by the most elaborate safeguards against loss and trickery. What comes to pass beneath the benedictions of this Credit we now are witnessing, and seem inclined to lay all blame upon the Jews.

>>16281779
I really don’t know the work. All of that looks pretty interesting. Wagner itself is pretty intimidating to get into so I tread each opera once at a time, really absorb what it really is. Takes time but makes me have a deeper appreciation for it I think.

>>16280918
I hate Wagner. That smug asshole was so productive and successful that he set the bar too high for the rest of us

>>16280918
the greatest genius who ever lived. it shouldn't be possible what he was able to achieve

Boring robotic anglo-germanic droid. Why couldn't imageboards exist when spain and france or even rome ruled the world? Latin culture is so infinitely more interesting.
It's not fair to listen to you sniffing your own farts like this.

>>16282828
Yes, lets sniff olive flavored farts instead.

>>16282828
I would sniff Wagners farts forever

>>16282828
BASED ROMANCEBRO

he emulated the linguistic features of old epic poems, but the claim about free verse has probably more to do with the lack of repetition in his music as opposed to classic conventions. in his more advanced operas the leitmotive "evolve" and reappear relatively unexpected from classic music point of view.

>>16283679
btw baudelaire became a wagner-fan after listening to his instrumental compilation concerts that he gave in paris during 50s, like preludes from lohengrin or tristan. the music alone won him over.

>>16282828
Some Northerners are Celtic, which is what Wagner looks like

>>16283728
>Wagner
>celtic
Wagner was dinaric, as all great "german" minds have always been, the combination of the dinaric spirit and some hint of the nordic appreciation of apollonian values is the sole combination capable of greatness, just take a tour of Austria or Germany, take a look at literally any statue, time and time again you will see this same profile, this is the head measurement of all Hapsburgs, all great composers, all great scientists. The nordic race has never produced 1 (one) single great man of note. All of the achievments of faustian man came through the dinaric race.

>>16283744
Hey nerd, Wagner doesnt even have that profile.

>>16283783
>NOOOOOO LOOK AT HIS HAIR HE IS A NORDIC WE ARE SPECIAL TOO OUR BLOOD IS RH NEGATIVE WE ARE THE MASTERRACE NOOOOO I'M BLONDE, I'M BLONDE I'M BLOOOOOONDE
Goethe was dinaric also.
Btw, genetic evidence shows us m*diterraneans were the first to develop blonde hair.

>>16283744
BALKAN CHAD strikes again

>>16282828
Absolutely based