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kolakowski's main currents

>>16279821
It's literally in the name you brain dead mongoloid: read Marx, then Lenin.

>>16279821
just read marx and lenin because every other marxist is a retard/gay/female

>>16279821

>>16279821
Here is a chart I made that I keep shilling, use the URL in the top right to get access to the texts online for free.
The first text by Lenin is only about 7 pages long, gives you a good overview of Marx.

>>16279821
>anything by Leszek Kolakowski
>Freda Utley's The dream we lost: soviet russia then and now
>Bertrand de Jouvenel's On Power

>>16279953
>Csezlaw Milos' The Captive Mind
>pretty much anyone who ever lived in a communist shithole for more than a month and wasn't the dictator's cousin or something

>>16279856
Every single one?

>>16280050
What do you expect from a dumb Trot?

>>16279821
start with Socialism: Utopian and Scientific by engels it is short and introduces you to the main ideas of marxism

in the noose hopefully

>>16280605
>Engles
>Main ideas of Marxism
Why does does h have to share his ideology? Why can't we have an Engelsism?

>>16280648
y u so mean fren? i jst wunt two hlep mi frens.

>>16279859
>trotsky
ew

>>16279821
You start and end with Marx and Lenin. If you must supplement, use Stalin.

Every single "Marxist" today will tell you to vote for Biden in 2020, meaning they're revisionist bourgeois scum who should have their knees hobbled or heads concussed.

>>16279856
This, remember to use "marxist" in quotes when referring to them.

>>16280842
Voting Biden does not make you a revisionist.

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1XxuY40QVnbcY5z1Wxy_PzRSA7wmRhQdCNhvgYdoOyiU/mobilebasic

>>16280866
Yes it does.

>>16280866
>Voting Biden
lol

>>16279821
You don’t. You read Bordiga (pbuh) instead

>>16280884
>>16280885

>It is beyond doubt, however, first, that in this question, too, those who try to deduce the tactics of the revolutionary proletariat from principles such as: “The Communist Party must keep its doctrine pure, and its independence of reformism inviolate; its mission is to lead the way, without stopping or turning, by the direct road to the communist revolution”—will inevitably fall into error. Such principles are merely a repetition of the mistake made by the French Blanquist Communards, who, in 1874, “repudiated” all compromises and all intermediate stages. Second, it is beyond doubt that, in this question too, as always, the task consists in learning to apply the general and basic principles of communism to the specific relations between classes and parties, to the specific features in the objective development towards communism, which are different in each country and which we must be able to discover, study, and predict.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/ch09.htm

>>16280866
Pathetic "Marxist" Platform. That document is a laugh stocking and meme. Meanwhile Chad FARC gorillas would burn your petite bourgeois house down and rape your mother no matter how many times you claim to be a Marxist.

>>16279821
Nigga kys. Just read economics. No one gives a shit about Socalism outside of Twitter and autistic bread-tube circles.

>>16280866
Why vote Biden if Grenparty or PSL exist? Also are those quotes from Vaush? Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX9_kXYMSck

>>16280908
>dude lenin is actually saying to vote for the democrats
Absolute fucking moron. He is talking about his own party. He isn't selling oh well guise guess we have to vote for the Kadets :D
>>16280939
Both meme parties led by fakes. Don't vote or vote for trump.

>>16280909
Imagine thinking that there are still clear class distinctions in 2020. The idea of a modern proletariat is already giving into the bourgeoisie lens of understanding. The manager of Arby's is as much a slave to whims of capitalism as the janitor. The time of armed revolution has long since passed, either build alternative networks of distribution that force a new mode of production or submit to the expanding technocratic hellscape. The choice is yours, there is no alternative.

>>16280954
>don't vote or vote for trump
Is this american brain disease? How can you live with this horrible two party system? Vote on third parties, grow them. By voting inside only the two party options you're submitting to the inherent corruption of american electoral "democracy".
Vote third party.

>>16280866
> Healthcare reform

Middle class bourgeois shit. Poor people get Medicaid. Fixing healthcare isn't going to do anything and is just a cope.

> LGBT rights
Not a marxist issue.

> Platforming and support for white supremacists

Spook and meme. Idenitiy politics irrelevant to class struggle.

> Attacks on democracy

Bourgeois idealism

> Unfilled government appointments
Good

>Supreme Court justices
Makes no difference. Honestly a pro gun supreme court is the only thing that matters lol.

>Obstructionism

To the bourgeois state? Good.

>COVID-19 response
Who cares?

>Federal crackdown on protesters
Paid protestors and non profits without revolutionary potential.

> Climate change
A meme for people with too much money. Honestly if you're a working class person your life is such hell you don't give a shit. The people who go on and on about muh climate are almost always rich hybrid driving scum.

I can tell you right now who ever made this meme list has too much time and money and will be an enemy of the people after the revolution. Pic related is the faggot as he wrote the essay.

>>16281009
>pic related
I've never EVER seen a supposed marxist going against globohomo outside of this shithole

>>16281009
All parties are a meme. Look are Europe. All shit.

>>16280908
He's talking about the various strains of communism and socialism, not corporate, pluralist liberal democracy.

>>16281009
>dude we need many parties not two t-thatll fix it
Want to know how I know your an american or Canadian?

>>16281037
Literally the only policy in America you should support if you're far-anything is rolling back gun control.
The protests are braindead (no leadership) devoid of class consciousness and poisoned by racial idpol.

>>16279859
>recommending a revisionist

>>16280866
KILL YOURSELF

>>16279821
read Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Mao

>>16281069
Because they aren't marxists. They're neoliberal retards who don't care their neck is being pressed by corporations so long as they have gay flags and tweet black lives matter. There is no hope for marxism in america if for no other reason than americans, "left" or right, are far too stupid for it to work.

>>16279821
After going through a basic introductory guide, be sure to visit marxists.org and eat your heart out!

>>16281683
lmao

>>16280842
>Every single "Marxist" today will tell you to vote for Biden in 2020
Even chapo doesn't support Biden and they're libs

>>16280908
Biden isn't a step toward communism, he's a leap away from it. Avoid

The Chapo Guide to Revolution: A Manifesto Against Logic, Facts, and Reason

Start with Thomas Sowell - Marxism

>>16280842
>>16280866
>>16280885
>>16280908
>>16280909
>>16280939
>>16280954
>>16281009
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>>16282033
lmao can't even agree on something as unimportant as whether or not to vote for biden without splintering in to two more camps. the modern left is fucked

>>16282231
Ya, that's why I'm buying guns and moving to the woods.

>>16282181
stop posting this uncle tom

>>16281037
You're both a nasty person and one who is not particularly well-read.

>>16280866

>>16282231
>if you don't support Biden the modern left is fucked
45 IQ, clinically retarded and brain damaged post. Seek psychiatric institutionalization.

>>16282429
>NOOOOOO MARX WANTED TO HELP THE WELL READ BOURGEOIS "MIDDLE CLASS" COLLEGE STUDENTS NOOOOOOOOOO

>>16282429
Seething phony with rich parents. Hope you die of COVID-19.

>>16282878
proving my point retard

>>16280908
>Yeah when Lenin says the communist party should compromise every now and then he actually means you should partake in bourgeoisie democracy by voting for a non communist party
Absolute state of revision you have reached

>>16279821
you start by realising that it’s a dumb and no longer relevant ideology even within leftism and go outside instead

>>16280050
>Mao
meme tier
>Stalin
Greatest Reader propaganda crap even the Soviets stopped believing in the moment he died
>Trotsky
bruh

dont bother, the moment you win the revolution you need to keep the power on and the food and water coming so the first thing thats going to happen is an authoritarian revolutionary government seizes the means of production and distribution for themselves in order to keep things running via a pseudo-capitalist economy, then in order to deal with counter revolutionaries genocidal purges of working class people begin, either power struggles break out or purges of leadership begin ect. and the end result is a soulless pseudo capitalist authoritarian dystopia that doesn't resemble theoretical communism at all, or the government just collapses or is defeated and 100 years later a bunch of junkie hippie retards go "i know it didnt work out the last 1093784034987 times but maybe...just maybe it will work this time" so they begin protests and escalate to violence and terrorism then put your into through the exact same nightmare as last time "because we totally care about the working class broo"

>>16283514
This.

>>16283514
That's completely beside the point, the appeal of Stalinism is purely aesthetic.

>>16283615
Where is Trotsky in that pic? its Engels, Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Mao

>>16280660
Engels literally simps for Marx

>>16279821
Read Marx, Lenin, and Ho Chi Minh

>>16279821
Leninism is shit. Just read Marx. Micheal Heinrich's introduction of capital is a good book for beginners.

>>16281615
you don't have to be a trot to recognize Trotsky had some good ideas pre-exile. permanent revolution is one that even tankies can get behind.

>>16280866
>the absolute state of the modern left
Just fucking kill me desu, we'll never reach the revolution

>>16285166
The only group with revolutionary potential are the working class that voted for Trump.

>>16285498
This.
Fascist revolution doesn't require thinking just obedience and fervor. Right wing organizing is much easier and has far less infighting.

>>16285529
The reason why right wing "revolution" is easier is because it's not revolution. It only takes the aesthetics of revolution while having reactionary substance. It's dressing up as revolution all the while sucking up to the capitalist class. Fascism is the capitalist's reaction against communism. The Left have always had it the hardest.
Communism is the true struggle.

>>16285550
duh.

>>16285550
>getting rid of of the capitalist's voting cattle lumpenprole enforcement arm (black people) helps the capitalists

Lmao

>>16285550
cope. the working class was always backward illeterates and Marx loved them. Their revolution would result in socialism and eventually communism. Your just mad your bourgeois shit can't convince them and are just a phony.

>>16286628
>the working class was always backward illeterates
But they weren't. They would hire people to read books to them while working and would read books while not at work. The dumbing down of the working class has been a capitalist project for ages. It's part of the reason they won't take this website down.

>>16286643
Low IQ post.

>>16285550
Beyond cope. Delusion.

>>16287786
imbecile

>>16287792
Struck a nerve.

>>16287786
cope

>>16279838
Kolakowski is only good until 1956, and he's tendentious (within legitimate scholarly limits) as fuck.

Engel's socialism utopian and scientific
Engel's family private property and the state
Engel's making of the English working class.

Oh wait you said M-L.

On Linguistics
Anti-Duhring
Non-Yennan Mao.