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What am I in for lads?

>> No.16280676

>>16280638
Depression.

>> No.16281111

A pretty cool disneyland metaphor and then a bunch of 888 incel sperging about jewish car crash sex fetish novel

>> No.16281362

>>16281111
>quads

What the fuck

>> No.16281619

>>16281362
truthposting gains His favor

>> No.16281662

>>16281111
Sounds based, added to my TBR

>> No.16281671
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>>16280638
Realistically unless your familiar with Saussurian linguistics you’re not gonna have any idea what he’s talking about. Without that or someone to help you through it you’re fucked

>> No.16281696

>>16280638
Trying to read and vividly imagine this is what acid feels like

>> No.16281708

>>16281671
You can understand Saussurean linguistics through Baudrillard's critique, I find.

>> No.16281794

Doesn't this have something to do with the Matrix?

>> No.16281848

>>16281794
Neo hides some disks inside a fake book, which happens to be simulacra and simulation

>> No.16281851

>>16281794
no. the matrix is platonic.

>> No.16281858

Peak continental word salad

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>>16281671
>>16281708
10 pages in and it reads almost the same as Sublime Object of Ideology.

>> No.16282171

>>16281708
Kind of, but not really. Baudrillard goes full post-structuralism, taking the implications of connotative meaning well into the realms of consumer culture and the impact of semiologic conversion of culture. They can definitely help each other out for understanding, but if you don’t have a foothold of some sort with Saussure Baudrillard’s talk of self referential signifiers (and all his other talk) won’t make sense.
>>16281895
Fun fact, they used to hang out when they taught at university together in the 90’s.

>> No.16282226

>>16281794
matrix is much more influenced by idealism, i dont quite see how they thought hyperreality related to any of it, and maybe they didnt either since they now retroactively insist it's a trans allegory

>> No.16282563

>>16282226
The matrix doesn’t understand that simulacra and simulation is about the blurring of reality into simulation into simulacra. The matrix makes obvious once aware of the ideological framework what is real and what is The Real, while reality does not exist that way, in fact, this reminds me of a dirty old Slavic joke...

>> No.16282796

Escaping the Matrix of consumerist culture

>> No.16282813

>>16282796
>Escaping the Matrix is consumerist culture
fixed

>> No.16283056

>>16280638
Nothing, really. The book isn't about anything important and is has no intrinsic meaning of its own beyond being a collection of symbols and signs.

>> No.16283091

>>16283056
A book itself is a simulacra, for it is the symbol of the symbol that no longer exists, the authors thoughts.