/lit/ - Literature

Literally me.

The only reason I refuse to pay attention to Pessoa is that he is completely mainstream here in Brazil and every fucking brainlet I know loves his work.

>>16264746
and what did you write so far?
do you even have a single heteronym you pseud?

>>16264755
Good thing is that no one knows him in my country

>>16264755
what's wrong liking what other people like?
you might even make friends by talking about him you autist retard

>>16264755
So tell us all something worth reading in Portuguese

>>16264799
Raduan Nassar and Mia Couto

>>16264799
saramago is okay maybe. eça de queiroz is ok too if you like 19th century aristocrats and incest

>>16264734
Who cares? AI is taking over. There are more important things to think about.

>>16264841
delusional stemfag

>>16264818
>and incest
Thanks

>>16264734
Based incel, I do the same thing

>>16264941
Based.
I wrote a 5 pages long entry on my diary when I saw this girl dancing.

>>16264941
>>16264967
Brothers

>>16264967
I’ve written diary entries describing girls I come across walking down the street since I was 15, it feels pretty good when years later I read them again and I can again experience all the emotions I felt looking at the girls and when writing about it. I’d like to share them but too bad only around 3 million people speak my mother tongue

>>16264941
>>16264967
>>16264995
>>16265022
These are people you talk to on here

>>16264778
kek

Holy shit men are pathetic.

I know you guys are outcasts but what the fuck this shit is sad

>>16265045
>>16265060
No females allowed in this thread

>>16265097
You can not force me to leave.

>>16265045
>>16265060
>>16265105
You will never be a real woman

>>16265097
I'm a man

>>16265105
You are right. With women you always have to use force

>>16265115
Nice shot in the dark bro

>>16265118
Don't you have a diary entry to write about this moment?

>>16264734
Where is this from OP? Exact search not finding anything.
Thanks for posting it btw.

>>16264755
Parabéns, idiota subletrado.

>>16264734
When are we going to a biopic starring Ryan Gosling?

>>16264812
They are both mediocre. I am not saying they are bad: I am saying they are mediocre.
Nassar's ''poetic'' prose isn't really poetic. He just happened to have the Caldas Aulete by his side when writing his corncobby chronicles.

Read Pessoa instead. Pessoa was a true writer.

>>16265115
You will never be a man worth loving and holding.

>>16265121
i just say that to random people online just in case

Not even the great bukowski was this pathetic

>>16265130
Go clean your shit-stinking gash tranny

>>16265157
Yeah I gathered, you and everyone else on here, it doesn't get tedious at all as a cis man

>>16265175
I'm a man you dumb cunt you see trannies everywhere you're obsessed

>>16265156
I know

Who the fuck is behind this derailing? We had a comfy thread in the making and then a massive flood of trannies ruined everything, hate to see it

>>16265194
It‘s not too late though. You can still pick up the pieces.

>>16265207
Men.

the greatest insights into the human soul are those you get when you are lonely and horny

>>16265226
Yeah no shit. It‘s your soul screaming that something isn‘t right. Stop being a weakling and do something about it.

>>16265237
masturbation is sin

>>16265255
No it isn‘t, but porn and degenerate fantasies definitely are.

>>16264790
I actually really want to understand his mentality, because I catch myself doing it too, every time someone mentions they read ancient greek mythology I get a little twang in my heart that my imagined exclusive intellectual club isn't so exclusive in reality. Obviously it's silly to be mad that people share your interests, but the visceral reaction is still there.

>>16265291
Yeah that happens when you do something to feel superior not out of genuine interest.

>>16265304
What is "genuine interest"? Is wanting to feel superior not genuine?
Would you say one is not truly interested in guitar if they do it to attract girls, or not truly interested in STEM if they want to earn money, or not truly interested in weightlifting if they're doing it to look good? Because I promise you everyone who does those things does it at least partially for those reasons.

>>16264734
So uhhh... did he make it in the end, bros?

>Yeah no shit. It‘s your soul screaming that something isn‘t right. Stop being a weakling and do something about it.
Translation from roastie speak.
"NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE MY EGGS ARE DYING PLEASE I CANT AFFORD MORE MEN DROPPING FROM THE DATING POOL NOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM ONLY IN MY EARLY 30S PLEASEEEEEEEEEE I PROMISE TOO ONNLY CHEAT ON YOU EVER FEW YEARS OR SO, SO PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE I HAVE TWO CATS ALREADY AND CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE I PROMISE OUR CHILD WONT BE RETARDED S-SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT WOMEN AND HOW NECESSARY WE ARE.

>>16265317
>Would you say one is not truly interested in guitar if they do it to attract girls, or not truly interested in STEM if they want to earn money, or not truly interested in weightlifting if they're doing it to look good?
Yes.

> Because I promise you everyone who does those things does it at least partially for those reasons.
All weaklings. Do you want to belong to them?

>>16265328
Based

>>16265325
Imagine genuinely thinking women care about bringing worthless worms back into the dating pool. Amazing anon.

>>16265328
>All weaklings. Do you want to belong to them?
Well, I think I do whether I want to or not. Humans are shallow creatures. And I don't care if you think i'm weak for admitting it.

>>16265344
I never said you should care what i say. You should care what you think but you don‘t. You care more what others think and worse, you are even too weak to admit that.

>>16265328
All it's vanity. Hard truth.

>>16265356
Well anon, humans are social creatures and you need to impress other people to live and reproduce, unless you are a monk you too care what people think of you.
Anyway, time to go read.

>>16265369
Which means everyone has an obligation to take stock in their own life and cut out everything they do not do genuinely, even if it means sacrificing comfort.

>>16265381
People are impressed by dignity, all the things you think you need to impress people are just symptoms of a life lived in dignity. Alright, i see you're bailing. Good luck.

>>16264755
Could I read him if I only know Spanish?

What the fuck are you robots doing interacting and socializing with other people if you were so far gone into your misanthrophy and reclusiveness lmao

>weaklings
>shallow creatures
Cope.

>>16264812
Gosto de merda.
>>16264799
Manuel Maria du Bocage
Antonio Dinis Cruz e Silva
Almeida Garrett
Alexandre Herculano
Eca de Queiroz
Julio Diniz
Ramalho Ortigao
Some of Jose Luis Peixoto is alright. A lot of people will tell you Saramago is good. Those people are mostly liberal pseuds, just like Saramago. Don't bother with him.

>>16265421
I'm a native spanish speaker and I understand about 80% of what he says without a dictionary.

>>16265427
Oh, also read Camões if you're into epic poems. Reading him in any language that isn't portuguese is pretty shit tho

what a fucking simp lmao

>>16264779
You are just out of touch

>>16265427
>A lot of people will tell you Saramago is good. Those people are mostly liberal pseuds, just like Saramago. Don't bother with him.

You are a moron and Saramago is a genius

>>16265479
>Omg did he really get rid of all punctuation? How subversive! What a genius!
>Religion bad? Woah, never heard that one before!
>Strawmans one of Pessoa's heteronyms to further his politics
He's shit. The school system tricked you into liking him.

>>16265529
he is probably one of the only authors in the last 40 years to achieve a genuinely powerful and distinctive aesthetic that wasn't some gimmicky nonsense. He doesn't say religion is bad, he investigates the theopoetic depth to human morality and phenomenology, and Blindness is one of the greatest novels of all time

he was also calling out the EU for decades prior to fucking brexit. Pseud libs like you couldn't achieve the communist credentials he had if you spent the rest of your lives on it.

(and I say that knowing full well that when you call his supporters "liberals", you think that the full spectrum of politics goes from "lib" to "conservative", with nothing beyond, you retarded incel dimwit)

>>16265572
>achieve a genuinely powerful and distinctive aesthetic that wasn't some gimmicky nonsense.
How is "just get rid of punctuation lmao" not gimmicky nonsense?
>he investigates the theopoetic depth to human morality and phenomenology
Yes, and ends up arrogantly concluding that religion is bad because God doesn't operate under a human moral mindset like any midwit in the last 40 years
>calling out the EU for decades prior to fucking brexit.
I'll give him that.
>you couldn't achieve the communist credentials he had if you spent the rest of your lives on it.
Nor would I ever want to.

>>16265598
Because he does have punctuation. The primary aesthetic departures are the long paragraphs (which only morons would be troubled by) and the commas to signify dialogue (which contribute towards an aesthetic of deindividualisation by figuring dialogue as a kind of continuum between individuals, instead of the dull bourgeois narcissistic monotony of the generic writer). Do you consider McCarthy a pseud too?

He's against god because instead of useless posturing and kiddie-fiddling he prefers a moral framework that actually defends human dignity and opposes the brutality of class oppression. If you were born into irreligiosity in the last thirty years, and you have willingly decided that actually Christianity is the correct path, then your a deluded pseud and of no worth to any genuinely revolutionary movement. I bet that Trump photo with the bible sent shivers down your spine too.

Finally, I am almost certain you're a white man. So, from one to another, let me recommend that you give up on pathetic fantasies in which cultural marxism or whatever is some great civilisational threat, and realise that everything you have ever hated is due to the cultural degradation inherent to capitalism, and start supporting the only political movement that has ever given a single fuck about people's lives outside of the merciless accumulation of money: communism.

>>16265671
>He's against god because instead of useless posturing and kiddie-fiddling he prefers a moral framework that actually defends human dignity and opposes the brutality of class oppression
The same reiterations of every single twitter liberal. I'm done arguing with materialists. I bet you have never even read a single theology book or the Bible for that matter. I don't give a shit about Trump and I agree with you that capitalism is decadence. I still think Saramago is a preachy, gimmicky, horrible writer and that communism is retarded. Have fun with your gypsy friends in Avante, shithead.

>>16265671
Slave morality

>>16264755

That's exactly why I refrain from using my vocal chords or engaging in written communication, since brainlets do it. This is the first time I've ever broken my silence. Now you'll never hear from me again.

>>16265671
Diálogos sobre a tirania

"A liberdade individual não pode existir senão depois de conquistada a liberdade social, e, principalmente, a económica. De que me serve a liberdade de escrever um romance se, por uma questão de temperamento, só posso escrever concentradamente, e tenho de ir para um escritório todos os dias?

Ora a liberdade económica existe pela existência do capital. É impossível universalmente; e o socialismo, em vez de ser uma libertação económica, é uma ausência completa de liberdade. O socialismo torna extensivo a toda a gente o servismo da maioria. Não são os escravos que querem libertar-se: são os escravos que querem escravizar tudo. Se eu sou corcunda, sejam todos corcundas,.

É esta a razão por que, sem querer mas sabiamente, a Natureza fez o homem construir o privilégio. A aristocracia é a maneira de se poder pensar livremente. Disse-se que a maioria dos escritores tinham sido favorecidos pelas circunstâncias financeiras domésticas. Tomou-se isso por lamentável para os que não foram favorecidos. Mas o contrário é que é o sentimento bom: há que regozijar-nos com os que foram escolhidos, e não que lamentar os que o não foram, a não ser sentimentalmente.

Bem diziam os homens da Idade Média, concebendo a liberdade, não como um direito, mas como um privilégio."

-Fernando Pessoa

>>16265703
>materialism bad hack spiritualism good
not the other anon but you are just another petty bourgeois trad larper that likes dressing up and cares more about the aestheticization of politics

>>16265703
fucking absolute moron, nice to see you couldn't mount any defence beyond muh twitter, which I don't have and hate what little I've seen of.

Read the bible all you want (lol at you thinking that I haven't read it, or that reading it at all is some profound symbol of moral education), it was written by tripping monks a couple thousand years ago, it's meaningless today. Modern morality relies on intense distancing from the corrupt and sclerotic husk of Catholicism, but you're probably some fat midwestern NEET who's literally never played sport or gotten laid and so is convinced the resentful mind-palace in your own head counts as a decisive argument against materialism.

Well guess what, when you die there is nothing, absolute nothingness, and if you want to have any moral impact in the actually existing world you better imbibe some materialist and communist perspectives, even if it means confronting the meaninglessness of your current existence. Saramago came from brutal poverty and persisted until his sixties before being recognised for his genius, but obviously your some sub-thirty bougie imbecile who's already given up.

>>16265671
It's pretty funny how there's fags who criticize christianity for not being "christian" enough and then call themselves "free thinkers"

>>16265781
written a century ago, with completely different material conditions, by a literal incel

>>16265816
what? meaningless

>>16265833
Read Nietzsche

>>16265806
Leftism has fucked our country beyond measure. I don't know how you don't realize this. The way things are, we are patriots without a fatherland. But you don't much care about patriotism, huh? You'd rather have a church burned than be deprived of your hashish high.

>>16265781
Capitalism before it was cool or as the old kids call it mercantilism, or even older kids feudalism

>>16265858
Jesus christ, can you people get your midget brains around the idea of there being more to leftism than what nancy pelosi scrawls on the chalkboard? how about the opposition of the oppressed and morally righteous masses to the corrupt and decadent elites. The problem is that the elites have succeeded for so long that their degeneracy has transmitted to the masses and now we're stuck in this hellworld where the republicans sell out their people while giving rhetorical concessions to whites, while the democrats do the same thing but with concessions to "poc".

Stalin would have strung up the entire senate by their necks and imposed some fucking order. But nope, what we really need is a porn-star fucking reality TV host with a 90 IQ who's about to lose to a dementia patient. God forbid we tell the rich to go fuck themselves. They're white! They must be on our side!

>>16265905
>Portugal's elite is right-wing
Hahhaahahahhahahahaha

>>16265893
>>16265905
Little slaves are a bit too much resentful for my taste

This thread is ruined. Fuck sake.

>>16265950
Blame the commie. All I did was give recs

>>16265427
T. Nunca leu Nassar

>>16265930
The only slave here is you, a slave to his own ideology of freedom

>>16265982
What do you mean? Do you think I give a fuck about freedom? Only the Masters should have the privilege of freedom

>>16265992
literally calling yourself a slave, lol

genuinely kys

>>16265956
all you did was call out the greatest portuguese writer of all time due to projection and jealously, you idiotic liberal

>>16266016
You will never be free as long as the "muh evil elites" live RENT FREE inside your head
See >>16265835

>>16266023
>greatest portuguese writer of all time
How many portuguese writers have you read, onions guzzler?

>>16266028
i don't care about freedom, I care about the moral valence of society. The evil elites live rent free inside everyone else's heads and lives entirely because they control society. You can tongue their assholes and tell yourself the taste of shit is what it means to be elite, but you're just deluding yourself.

If you're on the /lit/ board and still shilling for elites you are a genuine born slave and should start watching sissy hypno or something.

>>16265905
>Portugal's elite is right-wing
lol

>>16266036
saramago, lispector, de camoes, de assis, pessoa, n. rodrigues

>>16266050
I don't give a fuck about """society""" and this behavior of yours just shows how much of a herd animal you are and how much you wish to belong to it and force everyone else to do the same

>>16266064
I think Chagas Freitas might be up your alley

>>16266056
oh yes, they're communists, of course

>>16266064
>Pessoa
Ironic considering how he saw the working class as natural slaves
>>16266076
Portugal doesn't have an elite, unless you consider our inept political "class" as an elite

>>16266083
lol what do you think an elite is??? ever heard of money and power?

and pessoa was a desperate incel, similar to lovecraft, do you think you have to believe someone's deepest convictions to talk with or read them? lib

>>16265781
quando só uma pequeníssima porção da população tem "liberdade" para criar,
então só uma pequeníssima porção da criação se poderá experienciar.

>>16266067
>I don't give a fuck about """society"""

damn, it still kind of shocks me when I encounter someone who truly has never had a friend.

praying for you, chap

>>16266076
Nice strawman. Not being right-wing necessitates that they're communists. Why yes, retard, you're correct!

>>16266132
Money? What money? The richest men in our country would get completely dwarfed by even an average richfag in Spain or some other shithole. And our politicians have absolutely no power at all as they repeatedly cuck the entire country to China and the EU. In fact, the only power they have is to keep the populace quiet, but that's pretty easy considering that obeying is natural to human beings.
>>16266144
A maioria das pessoas não tem, nem nunca terá, capacidade para criar algo. Isto é um facto, basta ver como o número de grandes indivíduos tem diminuído ao mesmo tempo que baixamos o nível da educação para ser acessível às massas.

>>16266177
yeah because your a dummy you think that supporting feminism or whatever is actually hardcore marxism, instead of the bullshit soft wing of international finance that serves to convince absolute dullards like yourself that supporting capitalists who give lip service to frustrated white guys is actually a revolutionary move rather than simple subservience to moneyed interests

>>16266204
>t. herd animal

>>16266197
>A maioria das pessoas não tem, nem nunca terá, capacidade para criar algo.

até te respondia mas obviamente nem sabes o que um ser humano é, quanto mais o que é criar.

>>16266197
empires thrive on convincing local elites to sell out their countrymen. Portugal's elites may not be NYC bigwigs, but they're the richest people in the country, wealthy enough to never feel material wants, to fuck escorts whenever, send their kids to the highest quality independent schools in England. You can support the international opposition of normal, good people to decadent elites, or you can descend into a fantasy of Christian opposition to the evil marxists, but only one path has any comprehension of who the real enemies are

>>16266212
I honestly thought that after J. Peterson gave himself brain damage you morons would give up

>>16265291
When I hear people have also read the same books as me I get excited and want to talk about it.

>>16264734
>in his private diaries is that he desired above all to free them from the shackles of their toil and provide for them a life of loving comfort, as a husband and protector
Good thing Twitch didn't exist back then

>>16266237
And what are you gonna do then? Do you expect everyone to agree with your bullshit degenerate ideology? Oh, let me guess... you're gonna put them in gulags.

>>16265572
I came to this thread just to tell you that Blindness is hackneyed bullshit.

>>16266221
Só porque podes criar algo não significa que devas. Olha só para a montanha de mediocridade artística que é a cultura do século 21.

>>16266314
moron

>>16266335
there was a lot of mediocrity in the past but only the worthwhile creations survived.
only after the creation is done can the result be judged by it's merits.

>>16264778
Yes

>>16266367
I'm still waiting for that to happen.

Real dumpster fire of a thread, retards.

>>16266385
often good authors are only discovered decades after their death

>>16266356
Its literally a communist collapse fantasy. Without the trappings of class and privilege and physical identifiers, we become a bunch of filthy degenerate animals who can only survive through the wisdom of the archetypal feminine rather than masculine constructs like authority or society. Men BAD, god ABSENT, free love GOOD, property COMMUNAL, etc etc what a fucking bore it all is. Never mind the fact that the dialogue becomes completely unhinged halfway through, and turns into petty moralizing sermons from the author delivered through the mouth of whatever character happens to be speaking.

>>16264734
Tell him to stop posting here all the time

>the guy shrieking in the thread about communism is a stalinist
not even surprised. not sure why this country’s leftists have a fetish for stalinism
also, saramago sucks and Blindness was a chore

>>16264778
I wrote a book called The Book of Disquiet, only to discover that Pessoa had already done so!

>>16266335

só porque não gostas de algo não quer dizer que não seja bom.
se se faz muita "porcaria" sem qualquer valor hoje em dia é porque mais do que nunca o que é feito é primariamente já condicionado pelas criações do passado que subsistiram ao teste do tempo.
por isso se vê uma certa saturação de conteúdo que se assemelha à vista desarmada.
tal como foi antes também agora será o tempo a decidir o que fica e o que é esquecido.

mas nada disso interessa pois o que interessa é aceitar que o ser humano, na sua natureza mais primitiva, é um ser criador. que por meandros escondidos da sua vontade e por meandros acessíveis da sua acção, faz.

se o que faz é bom ou não o tempo o dirá, mas o importante é fazer.

obviamente que não entendes isso porque na tua cabeça és a única medida universal daquilo que é válido ou não de existir. o que indica um desconhecimento total tanto do que é o ser humano como do que é a sua criação.

sofres do mesmo problema que muita gente sofre, a incapacidade de encaixar que não és a medida do universo. não és o centro do mundo. não és a medida pela qual se mede a existência e o que deve ser experienciado enquanto se existe.

>>16266422
A good summary of the book and it seems people have an affinity for Saramago and his works simply because his political views align with theirs and he took some pictures with Castro

>>16266457
>he took some pictures with Castro
post them

i must confess I never got through the Saramago book i had to read in school.

I might pick something by him again sometime. any recomendations?

>>16266494

>>16266538
>castro not wearing a tracksuit
this must be fake

>>16266434
read parenti. maybe you'll stop being such a brainlet

>>16266565
the hilarious thing is that I knew this is exactly who was going to be name dropped next. it's like when right-wingers and liberals alike bring up their favorite coon Sowell

Communism is good
>>16266565
based
https://youtu.be/xP8CzlFhc14

>>16266565
>parenti

>>16266448
Publish it anyways, Pierre

>>16264755
Most people only know a few poems from him

>>16266454
>obviamente que não entendes isso porque na tua cabeça és a única medida universal daquilo que é válido ou não de existir. o que indica um desconhecimento total tanto do que é o ser humano como do que é a sua criação.
Só porque pensas que a tua ideia de "direitos iguais" e "igualdade" sejam A verdade não significa que estejam de acordo com a realidade. Tu és o único que veio para aqui moralizar e fazer declarações universais

Has the commie finally stopped sperging out or is the thread still a dumpster fire? RIP comfy pessoa thread

>>16266615
>>16266454
Brasileiros larpando de portugas

>>16266615
>>>>hurr durr

>no séc 21 só se faz merda

não és a medida do mundo

>vens pr' aqui moralizar e declarar universalidades

fodasse maninho. aquilo que disse não pode ser contestado aquilo que disseste é facilmente desconstruído. pior é o cego que não quer ver.

How does one talk to women anons

>>16266656
As far as I can tell, not speaking Portuguese is a good start.

>>16266643
>espaçamento merddit

>>16266656
Unironically become a misogynist. It is far easier to talk to someone you view as lesser than one you put on a pedestal

>>16266656
one must not be an autist to do it. I'm sorry anon you never had a chance. furthermore lain a cute and i want to hug her

>>16266661
>o meu clube secreto

>>16266661
tens que voltar

>>16266659
Spanish, i know you don't care
>>16266666
Are you the anon that say about dignity? what would you rec to an underage who has been in this site for 2 years? (i read 10 book all this time) I just recently got ignored by a girl with a bocchi pfp. Don't care about getting ban, i hate this site

>>16266656
imagine touching lain's flat chest wouldn't that be funny

>>16266703
Pls help

>>16266703
I was joking about Pessoa being an incel, anon, if you actually want advice I will try my best to help you. What would you say your biggest issue is?

>>16266722
I just came

>>16266616
if you in 2020 call people commies as an insult you are, I guarantee, a virgin and a pseud

(hint: there's only one of those that is a bad thing!)

>>16264734
Where did you take these? I want to read more anecdotes on pessoa

>>16266865
I guess not, dont you have anything better to do than getting triggered on a mongolian painting board then shitting up a thread with projection and namecalling?

>>16266798
I really wish to know anon, probably autism. I'm just afraid of never experience HS love because i know i will never be close to be a Pessoa, always happens when i watch a movie, anime or reading book that i can't really get it at all, i read then reviews and i realize how stupid i'm.
Sorry for the diary but that bocchi girl destroy me.

>>16266921
if you'd ever had a truly emotional experience while reading, you would understand why I am so obsessive in defending Saramago. But I suppose you are just some random generic dude who occasionally read books and has never had a transformative experience doing so, and can therefore not understand.

>>16267002
Do you legitimately have autism? I genuinely ask because there is revering an author and there is doing the equivalent of barging into a conversation ranting about the global elites and really just spending most of the time insulting and projecting that everyone else are neets, pseuds, incels, what have you because someone offhandedly disparaged your author. But I'll stop now because I dont want to derail any chance this thread has of getting back on track.

>>16267064
you have never truly experienced art

>>16265291
I only get this feeling about stuff when I know how much of a pleb someone is already.

Like my friend, when he copies my EXACT tastes in music, shows, etc. Yet, I can never have a discussion with him about anything cause he is so superficial when it comes to these things and never had an original thought in his life.

This is why I feel rage. How dare you like something without understanding it?

>>16264734
https://youtu.be/bhcjA3Yh9gg

anyone watched this? i dont know what to make of it

>>16264734
It feels like i'm going for the same lonely way as he did... Feels bad man.

>>16266666
>nobody mentions the digits

>>16267952
Holy shit.

>>16265216
>never
>it's not too late
Is this your brain on female?

>>16265291
Popular familiarity hardly bears reaction to it one way or another, since there are things that almost everyone sees every day, while the proportion of those with illuminating things to say about them hardly changes. A neighbor of mine finds the whole of Romeo and Juliet oddly funny, while I find the stately tone of the ghost of Hamlet's father goes over the brink of camp. At whatever depth one reads or writes, it is all meta, decorous illustration of principles & forces that politely neglects enormous quantities of life's thoroughly nasty details.

>>16264734
I am ashamed to admit I relate to this.

>>16265045
And I love them just as if they were my own brothers.

>>16266940
start practicing talking to girls gradually anon. Go on tinder or something and train talking to them by phone first and then move on to talking to them personally. They're normal people with the same amout of insecurities as anyone else. You'll soon realize its fairly easy, don't beat yourself up for being bad at first, you should beat yourself up for not trying

>>16264755
I feel you anon. I did the same with Dante here in italy because professors keep spamming him as the best thing ever. I finally got to read him in my late twenties and found it amazing, for reasons that are very different from those my professors indicated. So, my suggestion is to give it a try anyway, at a certain point. If an author is a classic, there's usually a reason. Most people are very bad at explaining it though.

>>16264779
Pepessoa the frog! :DDDDDDDDD

>>16264755
Shakespeare is also mainstream in England. Your point?
By the way, some of Pessoa's work - indeed, his best work - is quite ''obscure'' (i.e. referential), and most people are not able to understand it. For instance, how many can really understand Mensagem? You need to be well-acquainted with Portuguese history in order to approach that book.

>>16264799
Here's a list, with asterisks to denote the really major ones. It's just my taste, based on what I've read:

Fernão Lopes***
Sá de Miranda*
Bernardim Ribeiro
Antônio Ferreira*
Camões***
António Vieira***
Franciso Manuel de Melo*
Bocage***
Filinto Elísio
Tomás Antônio Gonzaga
Alexandre Herculano***
Almeida Garret***
Castelo Branco
Eça de Queiroz***
Machao de Assis***
Euclides da Cunha***
Anthero de Quental*
Guerra Junqueiro
Cesário Verde
António Nobre
Camilo Pessanha*
Gonçalves Dias
Castro Alves
Alphonsus de Guimaraens
Mário de Sá-Carneiro*
Fernando Pessoa***
José Cardoso Pires*
António Lobo Antunes***
José Saramago
Jorge de Sena*
Vitorino Nemésio
Mourão-Ferreira
Eugenio de Andrade*
Vasco Graça Moura*
Sophia Breyner
Herberto Helder*
Manuel Bandeira***
Carlos Drummond***
Murilo Mendes***
Jorge de Lima***
João Cabral de Mello Neto***
Mário Faustino*
Cecília Meireles
Alberto da Cunha Melo
Haroldo de Campos
Bruno Tolentino
Ivan Junqueira
Ferreira Gullar*
Ariano Suassuna
Cyro dos Anjos
Graciliano Ramos

Younger ones: Gonçalo Tavares, valter hugo mãe, Tolentino Mendonça, Mia Couto*, Érico Nogueira, Nelson Ascher, P.H. Britto, Alberto Mussa.
Some famous authors I haven't yet read: Bessa-Luis, Matias Aires, D. Duarte, Lins do Rego, Gilberto Freyre, Osman Lins, Veríssimo, Aquilino Ribeiro, João Ubaldo, Virgílio Ferreira etc.
Honorable mentions (famous, but not my favorites): Mário de Andrade, Oswald de Andrade, Clarice Lispector, Nélida Piñon, Nassar, Manoel de Barros etc.
Brazilian Joyce: Guimarães Rosa***
Brazilian McCarthy: Guimarães Rosa***
Brazilian Pynchon: Dalton Trevisan*
Brazilian 19th century weirdos: Sousândrade, Qorpo-Santo (very weirdo)
Brazilian Ron Jeremy: Glauco Mattoso
Brazilian Cicciolina: Hilda Hilst.

Sorry if there's any obvious omission.

>>16265421
You can, very easily. But buy a Portuguese dictionary. I do the same with Spanish.

>>16265427
Good recommendations, but you forgot many other important authors.

>>16264734
kek
truly King of the Incels

Bump.

>>16264734
He was so pure, I truly love this man.

>>16265381
What a pathetic mindset.