/lit/ - Literature

>>16252604
bataille's erotism
foucault's history of sexuality

>>16252604
Your own (everyone) or others?

>>16252634
also lyotard's libidinal economy

>>16252604
No it's not, but having control over your desires, and very bad ones at that, completely is. But then you don't want to be too eager in that recognising either and think you've got some sexual attraction you don't.

>>16252604
The bible

Based, no. It needs an outlet or it will nag the shit out of you.

>>16252604
Yeah, everybody loves it when priests are found to be pedophiles, incel uprising gunmen unload and serial killers stalk the street looking for sinners to murder.

>>16252637
Replace OR with AND and you have a yes.

>>16252604
do normalfags really?

>>16252674
can you give an apologia for it?

>>16252671
will you be my mommy and take care of my sexual repression?

what's the green one doing?

>>16252604

Civilization and its Discontents

>>16252604
>Premise Status:
invalid

>>16252604
Fox and the grapes.

>>16252604
Scouting for boys by Baden Powell

>>16252604
books about how sexual repression doesn't exist*

>>16252604
why are those girls so fucking hairy?

>>16253675
Dude. Girls are so fucking hairy

>>16253684
Recommend a book.

>>16252604
girls on the edge
Raising a Strong Daughter in a Toxic Culture

>>16252604
>sexual repression
its called temperance.

>>16254412
t. Kiddie diddling priest

>>16252604
How has nobody mentioned J. D. Unwin's Sex and Culture yet?

>>16254417
go read aristotle.

>>16252671
The biggest incels in history were the Red Army because of how badly Stalin suppressed sexuality in the USSR most of them lost their virginity while gang raping small children.

>>16254421
Go read some stories about how many sexual molestation cases there are against priests

>>16254448
Still not as many as the Red Army.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/2002/may/01/news.features11

Imagine a life where you have never been great at anything, never felt the urge to be great at anything, never felt that magnetic admiration to someone who was great at something, wanted to imitate and ultimately defeat him. Just nothing. Literally all you do in life is exist. Occupy space. pass the time. You're a chick.

You're bored,tweeting about your fucking hair and not even feeling any kind of happiness from it, just soothing your constant need to be bitter and cunty and petty toward other women. Every single thing you've done in the past year was mundane, shallow, and boring. You spent the last six hours reading kinda-interesting Reddit stories about people who made interesting Halloween hats for their kids or some stupid bullshit that you think is interesting and you may say is interesting but you're not really sure if it's really interesting. You're just fucking sitting there, gestating, fermenting, with a moist hole between your legs that guarantees you'll at least never have to get up and move around and work to support yourself.

And then you see men, over in some corner, having fun. You've never seen this before. What are they even doing? Instead of their consciousnesses merely sitting in their thick skull and revolving around itself, they are imbuing their conscious energy and intentionality into external objects, crafts, goals, projects. All the bitterness and cuntiness you feel nonstop seems to be absent, as they congratulate each other for being victorious, and happily learn from someone who defeated them. These creatures are truly content to be alive. They have found purpose in a purposeless universe.

And your gaze turns back on itself, on your self, and you realise you've never had that. You can never have it. You're just a stupid cunt.

So you get up, you walk over there, and you fucking ruin everything. Just ruin the whole fucking thing. The five seconds of attention you get will be worth destroying it. Because you're a woman.

>>16254433
>>16254453
t. Polish nationalist

Did one of our agents tell you about floorchan too?

>>16254459
>t. Hypocritical commie
Interesting how rape isn't bad when you do it right? Suddenly it's perfectly acceptable. God I can't wait to murder your children.

>>16254448
Wisdom [prudence] is the leader: next follows moderation [temperance]; and from the union of these two with courage [fortitude] springs justice. -Plato, Laws

brainlets need to go.

>>16252604
Many of Thomas Mann's books and stories are all about the tension between eroticism and repression fueling art.

>>16254455
>Imagine a life where you have never been great at anything, never felt the urge to be great at anything, never felt that magnetic admiration to someone who was great at something, wanted to imitate and ultimately defeat him. Just nothing. Literally all you do in life is exist. Occupy space. pass the time.
This is literally me, but I'm not a woman.

>>16254463
Interesting how you prove there is such a thing as sexual repression, but also repeat nationalist propaganda.
Tell us, Mr Bluejeans Hussar, tell us how Putin is rigging the US elections for Trump this year.

>>16254464
And yet, no. None of that pans out as true.
Plato isn’t so smart after all.

>>16254515
>putin
I'm a rape baby living Cali retard. You advocated for the rape of my family and laughed at the creation of me. Don't act shocked when I get my revenge.

>>16254455
This was an enjoyable read. Unironically start writing anon

>>16254519
refute it.

>>16254694
its pasta, newfag

>>16254455
>Imagine a life where you have never been great at anything, never felt the urge to be great at anything, never felt that magnetic admiration to someone who was great at something, wanted to imitate and ultimately defeat him. Just nothing. Literally all you do in life is exist. Occupy space. pass the time.
this would make an interesting intro to a novel that delves into the question what life is like for somebody entirely free of any form of recognizable talent/interest whatsoever. would make for some good societal critic too since it could highlight how youre basically stuck with what youre given/ not given at birth.
Imagine a life where you have never been great at anything, never felt the urge to be great at anything, never felt that magnetic admiration to someone who was great at something, wanted to imitate and ultimately defeat him. Just nothing. Literally all you do in life is exist. Occupy space. pass the time. >You're a chick.
unfortunately the author of the pasta devolves it into a hate-fuelled speech of misogynistic drivel

>>16252670
This, but the outlet is intercourse with your heterosexual partner in holy matrimony, without contraceptives, and for the purpose of begetting new Christian lives.

>>16254448
Go read about how many sexual molestation cases there are against rabbis.

>>16254756
being gay is as natural as being hetero plus theres no god

>>16254701
Prudence is not wisdom.
Justice does not follow from being moderate and courageous. Perhaps there’s something lost in translation, but it’s gibberish as is.

>>16254765
>being gay is as natural as being hetero
Yes, sin is natural and so are its wages. Repent, faggot, lest ye get both bodily and spiritual AIDS.
>plus theres no god
Imagine being so "rational" and "scientific" that you believe that the supernatural does not exist because you cannot detect it from the natural world, or that no statement which cannot be falsified can be true.

>>16254811
>Imagine being so "rational" and "scientific" that you believe that the supernatural does not exist because you cannot detect it from the natural world, or that no statement which cannot be falsified can be true.
God is Truth, and to seek the True is to seek the Good. So why does God make it so difficult to accept His existence as True?

>>16252671
>brainwashed and self-abused roastie believes in anglo-jew liberal propaganda
welp colour me fucking surprised, who would have though a woman is incapable of thinking outside the box of temporal morality lol

>>16254767
great job. plato btfo. guess i'll cut my dick off and take sissy pills

>>16254811
>go back
i use both reddit and 4chan
>Imagine being so "rational" and "scientific" that you believe that the supernatural does not exist because you cannot detect it from the natural world
imagine living in that state of cognitive dissonance where you benefit from the advancements of science everyday and trusting in it in every aspect except for that one story where someone allegedly came back to life after kicking the bucket which you so desperately want to be true but deep down know its not.

>>16252729
its interesting that even without any kind of "traditionalism" society drifts towards modesty and chastity
a society that pushes sex everywhere and is seemingly obsessed with it, but has less sex than ever,
is obsessed with sexual liberation, prostitution, sex education, casual sex, and yet more than ever culture rejects these things
a society that professes to be modern and progressive and yet gets more reactionary with each day without even realizing it

>>16254893
imagine not believing in something because a bunch of official people in lab coats said you are not allowed to and that you arent cool unless youre a materialist

>>16254893
>i use reddit
>OMGGGGGG SCIENCCE SO GOOD I LOVE MY IPAD!!!! GOD NOT REAL!!!!!!

>>16254922
>using wojaks in 2020

>>16254893
>>go back
>i use both reddit and 4chan
>>Imagine being so "rational" and "scientific" that you believe that the supernatural does not exist because you cannot detect it from the natural world
>imagine living in that state of cognitive dissonance where you benefit from the advancements of science everyday and trusting in it in every aspect except for that one story where someone allegedly came back to life after kicking the bucket which you so desperately want to be true but deep down know its not

>haha nice try incel, but don't you know its CURRENT YEAR?!?!?!?

>>16254929
>HMMMM YIKES EXCUSE ME SWEATIE IMAGINE USING THING IN THE CURRENT YEAR PLUS FIVE HMMM I GUESS YOU JUST DID A THING NOW YOU LOST SOCIAL STATUS HUH? I BET YOU REGRET DOING THAT SINCE NOW YOU DONT HAVE SOCIAL STATUS

>>16254893
>imagine living in that state of cognitive dissonance where you benefit from the advancements of science everyday and trusting in it in every aspect
Science is a tool. It does not posit. There is no trust to be had in it. Like most Redditors, you conflate science with scientists, who are very biased and fallible despite the lab coat. You also seem to conflate scientists with engineers and inventors. I don't defer my thinking to authority figures, because I don't need them to think for me.
>except for that one story where someone allegedly came back to life after kicking the bucket which you so desperately want to be true but deep down know its not.
Why would that be not true?

>>16254455
Checked. Not too bad anon, I'd change something about the halloween hat part tho because that's something I'd typically imagine a woman do and this is conflicting with the "no hobby" thing, maybe add a sentence about how women only becomes interesting human beings as mothers or something like that

>>16254841
>So why does God make it so difficult to accept His existence as True?
God does not make accepting His existence difficult. Reddit does.

>>16254455
based

>>16254922
>>16254940
>t. criticizing the supposed reddit hivemind by posting the 10000th wojak iteration without presenting anything relevant to the actual point of discussion

>>16254964
>supposed reddit hivemind
>supposed

>>t. criticizing the supposed reddit hivemind by posting the 10000th wojak iteration without presenting anything relevant to the actual point of discussion

>>16254994
>>16254974
>>16254947
>>16254940
>>16254942
this is just one person

>>16255001
we others agree with him and thank him for telling off the reddit retard so we dont have to deal with him

>>16255001
wtf is that picture jeez

>>16255033
brewer's back baby WOOO

>>16255001

>>16254756
STFU

>>16254911
How so? I don't think it's the case at all. People are more frustrated, unhappy and aimless than ever, that's for sure, but everyone seems to ignore any temptation to turn off.

>>16254911
>a society that pushes sex everywhere and is seemingly obsessed with it, but has less sex than ever
*sub 8 men have less sex than ever
fixed it for you

>>16255068
i mean less people are having sex than ever
even feminism became sex negative to a significant extent, there is no more impetus behind progressive change even tho its the universal rule
it seems like a rotten vacuous society which tries to deny its own prudery by engaging artificially in forced overtly sexual behaviour and then push themselves into even harder depression and anxiety

>>16255078
>sub 8 men
im afraid i dont understand this expression

Just remember that no lit posting pencil neck will get much sex even in a liberated society, so might as well repress it

>>16255082
you will some day

>>16255135
is it the "chad gets all the pussy" thing from r9k?

I'm sexually repressed and no, I am not "based"

>>16255141
its the scientific facts of reality

>>16255150
you're not repressed enough, maybe try to pour boiling water on your testicles every day?

>>16255155
from personal experience, even as someone who is a sexless, kissless 20+ virgin, i really cant believe that
from what i have seen every retarded ugly manlet could get a decent gf
its honestly more about social ineptness than anything else

>>16255258
that's because you're coping.

>>16255266
i am a 6ft tall blue eyed person with light hair, decent looks, decent grooming, above average intelligence, upper middle class and i cant get a gf
ive seen a ton of dumb, lower class, ugly manlets get a gf
why?
because i am socially inept and awkward and they are cool and know how to hang out with people

>>16255274
tfw no 6ft tall blue eyed light hair, decent looks, decent grooming, above average intelligence, upper middle class gf

>>16255274
you're just coping.

>>16255284
this
>>16255286
how am i coping? i am literally admitting openly whats wrong with me

>>16255284
a girl like that wouldn't piss on us if we were on fire.

>>16255274
same here anon. I spent most parties smoking fags outside or in the kitchen talking with my friends, every so often some girl will start flirting with me. It makes me uncomfortable but I still crack some jokes. Then she'll invariably say "let's go dance for a little bit" with these big moist eyes and I'll say "yes" because that's the normal thing to say. But as soon as she start walking, I follow her for a few steps then quickly turn back and go hide by smoking a well-deserved cigarette. I have lot of friends, I'm decent looking, rather funny and intelligent but I'm a 24 kissless virgin because I'm deadly afraid of any form of intimacy and of social situations than are at least a little bit unpredictable (and where I can save face with a joke).

>>16252671
Kill yourself roastie

>>16255297
you're refusing to accept the truth that you are ugly.

>>16252604
Sexual repression creates perversion. There's a reason that Japan has the weirdest porn and that Catholic priests molest alter boys.

>>16255317
>i'm soooo attractive and cooool yet i still can't get a gf!!!
shut the fuck up you faggot. you are literally a woman.

>>16255317
my problem is a bit different tho
ive never "went out" to the city or to clubs, only parties ive been to are comfy local ones
i dont do social networks and in generaly i just do my own thing and have my own interests, dont go out of my way ever to leave my little village
>>16255324
im probably 6/10 objectively

>>16255328
wow, great talking point! that shit that everyone says! it must be true! better go fuck as many people as i can or else i'm bad!

>>16255328
>>16255334
actually scientific researches have been done which prove that priestly celibacy doesnt cause child abuse
its a confrimed anti catholic bigotry statement

>>16255317
kinda similar situation for me
Arranging therapy though the NHS is an absolute pain, to the point where I'm considering going for private CBT(not that kind lol)
>>16255333
You will have to leave the village at some point, even if your goal is to bring someone back with you

>>16255342
>You will have to leave the village at some point
i mean sure, i will go to the city to buy something, go to college and stuff, but i dont really have any meaningful interest outside of my little world

>>16255333
>im probably 6/10 objectively
well thats why you can't get a gf. this is the reality.

>>16255334
You don't have to be a hedonist but you shouldn't be a puritan.
>>16255338
Likely story.

>>16255329
Why are you so mad? What are you coping about? I can see that some women flirt with me, most of my friends are decently attractive (and you know that ugly people gather together), I don't pretend to be extremely attractive but most people my age aren't as sexually miserable as me even the really ugly ones.
>>16255333
I'm mostly talking about parties in flats or bars, because I live in a big city, where I wouldn't go alone but I follow my friends

>>16255355
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/do-the-right-thing/201808/separating-facts-about-clergy-abuse-fiction
https://www.psychologytoday.com/sg/blog/do-the-right-thing/202004/keeping-children-safe-in-the-catholic-church?amp=
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/do-the-right-thing/201003/six-myths-about-clergy-sexual-abuse-in-the-catholic-church

>>16255355
>you shouldn't be a pure
this is what you're really saying, kike.

>>16255349
why not, im not the most attractive person ever, but im not bad either, its a very dumb and incel thing to say
>>16255361
well honestly, i wouldnt say im miserable, i dont care about relationships that much, but its just weird that a healthy normal man in his twenties doesnt have a gf
>I'm mostly talking about parties in flats or bars, because I live in a big city
true, here in the countryside things are different and my friends generally dont go to such places and even if they did, i wouldnt follow

>>16252634
>foucault
How?

>>16255379
>i dont care about relationships that much
With time I became a little bit indifferent to it too. But I'd be lying if I didn't admit that sometimes it pains me to see happy couples or that there are night where I think about all my social shortcoming. What really bothers me is that I can't do it, I honestly try from time to time to surmount this fear but I'm always thrown back into my incapacity. I'm not truly the master of my acts and in the end, accepting it is giving victory to my unconscious. This life without relationship isn't a choice, and I wish it could be.

>>16252671
do u have a little fellow?

>16253684
trannies don't count

>>16255433
You're actually a fucking retard. You're literally stating that "oh all these things are put of my hands *sigh* I guess I'll never succeed"
Do you realize you actually have to go outside of your comfort zone? Anons are mad at you here because you're saying it's our of your control but that is not even close to being the case. I used to be scared of the dark when I was 4 now I'm not. I didn't treat that fear how you're treating yours by worshipping it as this godly entity that controls your life. Pretend that women are literally the same as men because for the most part they are.

>>16252604
The payoff is much greater when you hold back from achieving satisfaction instantly and instead bottle up those tensions for some greater liberation in the future. In our culture, pain, hunger and thirst are seen as purely negative states to be in and we spoil ourselves by thinking this way.

>>16252671
>incel uprising gunmen
Incels are the exact opposite of repressed.

>>16255703
>You're actually a fucking retard.
yeah no shit dude, that was precisely the point of the post: people don't fuck because they're socially inept, it's much more about that than about being ugly or what not. Anyway, I do try from time to time but I always make it end as a disaster. I recently downloaded tinder without an intention other than "speaking with girls in a flirty context", some kind of exercise without too much pressure because I can take my time and I'm not physically involved. I always end up cringing at myself because I sperg out my autism but hopefully it will tone down eventually

>>16252671
Incels wouldn't exist if it weren't for the sexual revolution

>>16255274
Because the appearance you've described is not enough in 2020, you might've had a chance in 2011 or something around that.

>>16255379
>why not, im not the most attractive person ever, but im not bad either, its a very dumb and incel thing to say
8/10 is the average in 2020, you dumbfuck

>>16254694
newfag

>>16254856
CCC. Can’t cope Catholic

>>16255958
Naw. That’s not your problem. Computers have far more to do with your malformed social skills.

>>16256046
Dilate

>>16256053
Try to cope

>>16252671
I'm convinced you have a humiliation fetish. You are insulted in threads by dozens of random people. You spend your night(?) wasting your time on a shitty board on a shitty website. And yet, day after day, you come back and post opinions people actively hate.

>>16256046
>>16256176
sex abuse has scientificaly been proven not linked with catholic priests
so you are just a bigot
its NO DIFFERENT than saying homosexuals are source of domestic abuse and pedophilia

>>16256308
they are tho
t.raped and beaten by faggots

>>16252671
>falsey claim preists abuse disproportionately
>OOHHHHH YEAH, THIS IS BETTER THAN SOI

>Someone accurately points out that gays and non-gender conformers disproportionately commit sex offenses
>NNNNOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16256338
There are other people who are sexually repressed besides priests

>>16256308
>Scientists weighed stool samples to see if ....
Hilarious

>>16253556
this

>>16252604
The Capitalism of Seduction

>>16252634
>>16252639
Isn’t their stance the complete opposite?

Libido Dominandi

>>16253675
It's a statement.

but to be honest with you if you need books you're ngmi The only way to actually maintain a soul is to operate on gut instinct and refuse to compromise that into perverted narratives, no matter how much the masses will shout and revile you in the immediate you'll always be proven correct and maintain autonomy in the long term as the lost and the damned are floundering in various spheres of lies and slavery all their lives.

tl;dr - are there any decent recommendations in this bread?

>>16256668
>>16256614
>>16256625
>>16252634
>>16252660

>>16256668
Sexual repression isn’t great.

>>16255958
>>16256046
>>16256046
Welcome. To the FAR RIGHT of INCELDOM. Incel always gonna be incel. Forever. Is is their destiny. You cannot, and will never change this fact. Is is the must certain certainty. Changing this fact would unbalance the very laws of the universe, and cause great chaos, great suffering. Incels must be purified, and embrace their destiny.

>>16257001
That’s much too sad.
They must believe they can change.

>>16256877
Have sex

>>16252604
Libido dominandi

Fornicators will be destroyed forever

>>16252604
there’s no such thing. we use sex for pleasure only. it’s no different than a drug. and you can’t be drug repressed. but if you want to have sex, why make excuses like yours? it’s something you can get if you work for it

>>16256424
as a homosexual you before all should understand the dangers of bigotry
so it fascinates me that you are willing to use it so lightly against people you dont like

>>16256338
Not actually true, homosexuals are not proven to have committed sex offenses.

The studies you are pointing at were disproved 9 years ago.

>>16257614
As a homosexual from a Christian background, I understand sexual repression. I am not going to forgive pedophile priests, but my advocation of disbanding this unnatural practice is to help them as much as their would-be victims.
Fascinating how you can defend the pedophiles and pretend their victims don’t exist.

>>16257380
Asap. Yeah.

>>16257123
Like monkey isn't destined to fly, or a midget isn't destined to become an NBA champion, INCEL is not destined to have sex. For them, to have sex, would be unnatural. The only way for them to evolve, is to accept that it's never going to happen. That it is over. That it was always over. It is better to accept it than to pretend it isn't... true.

>>16254811
Christfag be gone

>>16257683
>unnatural practice
says the homosexual

>>16256877
Silence, mothman

>>16255334
Everyone says it because it's true lol

>>16258452
If homosexuality was unnatural, it wouldn't be rampant throughout nature.

>>16258452
Priesthoods are unnatural.
Celibacy is unnatural
Homosexuality is natural
Deal.

>>16258687
It isn't rampant throughout nature

>>16258687
>it wouldn't be rampant throughout nature
it isn't
show me a single instance of an animal "mating" exclusively (for life) with a member of the same sex in the wild
rhetorical question because such a case does not exist
>>16258710
>Homosexuality is natural
it isn't

>>16258714
>>16258717
>it isn't
You sure?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Lots of species don't even have anything remotely resembling our standard for the two sexes, so there's really no appeal to nature one can make about sexual orientation.

>>16258721
>useless link that doesn't answer the question
so you can't point to a single case of an animal mating exclusively with members of the same sex for life got it
>so there's really no appeal to nature one can make about sexual orientation.
imagine btfoing yourself

>>16258740
There are countless cases of same-sex same-species animals fucking each other in nature. That's all I have to provide to show you that homosexuality isn't unnatural.

>imagine btfoing yourself
How? I'm not saying it's good because it's natural. I'm not for or against homosexuality.

>>16258717
>muh seed!
>>16258740
No question was given. Do try to learn.

>>16256615
Yes, thats the point about the texts, that you can take your own arguments against them.

>>16258757
>Do try to learn.
cope
>>16258753
>>16258753
>same-sex same-species animals fucking each other in nature. That's all I have to provide to show you that homosexuality isn't unnatural.
do you not know what homosexual means or are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>16258765
I thought it wasn't gay if the balls weren't touching, not so long as I fuck women and have children. It's okay for the balls to touch then?

>>16258765
>Cope with my inability to learn new things that contradict my religious programming
It’s a nonissue for me, dear. You’re the one who suffers

>>16258785
>religious programming
who said anything about religion? from a religious perspective you'd actually have an argument, at least insofar as sin is "natural"
but from a materialist, objective perspective, you have no ground to stand on

>>16252604
4chan

>>16254811
imagine being a christcuck and getting fucked in the ass by god on a daily basis. sounds pretty gay to me

>>16253733
So that's what happens when a person becomes an Epicurean. How ironic, the complete lack of epic.

>>16258334
I have known a few that have surpassed and moved forward in life (having sex). They try not to base their whole personality/life off this one aspect and I guess it worked out for them. If you want to blanket statement the whole thing and act accordingly no one can stop you.

>>16258792
Well it's either religion or /pol/, evidence has been presented and you are being retarded.

Swans have been known to mate for life with male partners and then use "surrogates"