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*remains Epicurus*

OP is one uncontrolled faggot

>>16250778
Has there been any proceeding philosopher that took the Epicurus school and thought seriously and built upon it?

>>16250768
thats epicurus

any "philosophy" that solely deals with praxis is not true philosophy, you might as well throw it in the bin anyways since who cares

>>16250768
that's epicurus

>>16250866
>>16250888
nice bait

>>16250768
>LIFE GOOD SOMETIMES, LIFE BAD SOMETIMES
Doesn't say anything remarkable. Water is wet

>>16251019
Not sure how such a simple yet pertinent take flew this far over your head

>>16250840
Science continues to work on the natural world questions, but you’d have to look to the far east for further ruminations on living right. Hard to build on the perfection of it, I think there’s need to fuse a little Stirner and Nietzsche into it, as pushing the political life away is a cop out status quo supporter.

So me, I guess

>>16250840
Wittgenstein

>>16250768
Mismatch aside, the stoics make an inadvertent division between virtue and control. Conquest of the self in service of rational judgment is not fundamentally different from conquest of the self in service of indulgence and pleasure. Control is not inherently virtuous; virtue is always tacked on after the fact. That's why I can never take the stoic defenders' claim that the stoa are not about suppression of emotion or disruption of communal restraint very seriously, when even Epictetus says it is the perfection of ascetic suppression and discipline that molds the stoic into his final form: the cynic. Once you become Diogenes shitting in the street, you've left all that behind.

>>16250768

One chooses all aspects of one's life "before" birth so much so that it becomes paradoxically determined. It is functionally finished, Teleologically, before it even begins. One is then merely a passive observer to the technicality of the Phenomenal.

>some things are withing your control
lmao delusional cope

>>16250768
He is right to a point but also happiness and freedom simply lie outside your control to some extent. You cannot always make yourself happy by just rearranging your mind. Maybe a certain very rare type of person can do this but most can't.

>>16250768
>nigger brain "philosopher" that is essentialy Bentham but greek
>undefeated
WHY DON'T FUCKING PLEBS AND REDDITORS FUCKING LEAVE REEEEE

>>16251531
Refute it, racist bitch.

>>16251288
>You cannot always make yourself happy by just rearranging your mind. Maybe a certain very rare type of person can do this but most can't.
This is what happens when people base their critiques of theories based on disparate quoted and interpretations of interpretations

>>16251258
Do you ONLY know 3 philosophers?

>>16250778
Epicurus wasn't the first person to come up with Epicureanism's good parts
>>16250840
Yeah, Lucretius and the stoics, who are very similar to Epicureans with a few differences
>>16251258
Name me one thing that the far East said about living properly that hadn't already been expressed in Greco-Roman traditions

>>16251280
Based

>happiness and freedom
complete cringe pursuits only valued be the enslaved and by the shallow clowns.