/lit/ - Literature

>>16223452
How is this useful to anyone here?

>men
>invent science philosophy art literature architecture
>go to moon
>build submarine

>women
>i want to be comfortable when i play with the things men created

>>16223464
It’s interesting to see how normies engage with art

>another twitter screencap thread

the state of lit discourse is beyond brutal

>>16223484
>It's interesting to see people who treat cultural works as escapism and friend simulators or just look at the world and see nothing but surface engage with art

If you say so.

>>16223459
based

>>16223484
I wish we had a word that differentiated high art from the shitpost that is postmodernism

>>16223459
This girl literally just wants an eternal kitten. Keep her away from books, please.

>>16223459
elbow bamba is an enlightened being clearly

>>16224131
>rich people spend 120k on a banana
I just felt potentially my first ever moment of sympathy for communism. It passed quickly but it was there.

>>16223468
have sex, m8

>>16223452
may /lit/ see a day where the catalog is void of twitter screen shots, frog posters, and /pol/ baits. fuck you, op for adding more shit to the pile.

>>16224159
Get a boyfriend, you're on 4chan in the evenings again. We both know you know that's never a good sign in your personal life.

>>16224169
seethe harder basement dweller.

>>16223452
I mean she's just expressing a preference. Everyone has some genres they don't like, really don't see the problem here.

>>16223484
no, it's literally one of the least interesting things you vapid fool. maybe it makes you feel better to make fun of normies, but do that with your discord group or some shit this is a board for literature you degenerate.

>>16224175
You've spent more time with me tonight than a guy who actually wants to be with you. Remember, you don't want to end up that one girl in the group or family who is pushing 30 without a marriageable boyfriend.

How are you preventing your forehead creases from becoming increasingly noticeable past age 23? It's exponential beyond that point.

>>16224193
this such a low tier argument, anon. i'm not a woman nor am i concerned with finding love.
i suggest not being a disgusting bugman and maybe you'll find something redeeming in your life.

>>16224203
Don't forget about your nasolabial folds. Those are the real killer especially if you're white.

How do you feel about the fact that any man you're with will be looking at women who are younger than your current age, for the rest of your life together? Even if he does love you, he will always notice and have a moment of lust for any random young girl that walks by. The best you can hope for is that he overpowers these urges. But he'll always have them.

>>16224203
kek you are so mad

>>16224164
/lit/ jannies ban me for racism like 90% of the time too

This board is a joke

>>16224213
>what never being inside a woman does to you.

>>16224216
>>16224193
>>16224213
He's not even swiping at me with anything remotely /lit/, he's just spewing his schizo ramblings about women and race that he learned after years of being on /pol/. It's hard not to be mad when this low level shit tossing is what passes for an argument on /lit/.

>>16224219
Prove this pic right again in your next response, hole.

>>16224242
Tourist

>>16224242
Not him but your replies make me think you really are a roast. Post dick with timestamp?

>>16224213
PUTA

>>16223459
Nietzsche is rolling in his grave.

>>16224247
>>16223468
>someone says something that collides with my narrow world view
>pulls out the safety strawman

Prune this shit, jannies.

>>16224131
money laundering

>>16223452
>>16223459
>OP hasn't yet realized that only doing things that make you happy is the ultimate redpill
you'll get around to it someday

>>16224242
get a boyfriend

>>16223468
Modern females are so unhappy. This makes me soooo happy. White flakes especially. They drank their KoolAid and willing traded a loving family for enslavement to the Globohomo NWO. Haha stupid cunts. Go get fucked by a nigger when you’re 35 and raise a retard who always be afraid if the water and will never pass high school algebra. Lolololo shit the punishment you get for your narcissism and abandonment if your own people is EPIC

>>16224422
Imagine being a woman and not having a family started when you're THIRTY

It's like going to college to start your career at 50 as a man lmao

>>16223452
>>16223459
they're being ironic
right

>>16224217
>/lit/ jannies ban me for racism like 90% of the time too
A Good Thing, Actually

>>16224302
This.the art world is a place for money laundering and tax evasion

>>16224422
BASED incel

>>16224487
Based racism supporter

>>16223452
>>16223459
this but unironically. the only good stories are one of struggle then upheaval.

>>16224422
another quality /lit/ post

man am i glad that this board got based and redpilled

>>16224487
>I love my dog just the same as any other family member
>I treat black niggers like any other human

>>16224508
>/lit/ - Literature

>>16224302
>>16224489
Sure but could you at least find something better to launder it on? Even if postmodern art is nothing but a vehicle to dodge taxes with theres still room to produce something with more visual and cultural appeal than the low effort canvas spray and readymade bullshit that gets taped to walls

>>16223468
Both of the people in the screenshot are men, dipshit.

>>16224217
/lit/ is the reason I learned how to reset my router

>>16224422
Lol this post is so horrible because of the underlying truth to it. It’s taken me a long time to admit this. No one around me, at university, questions anything that might make ANYONE uncomfortable unless they are white and male. I was never able to get past this hypocrisy of unquestionable mainstream leftism. Like your whole existence only happens IF white men had conquered this part of the world. These values and liberalism, safety and comfort, only exist in countries founded by European men. If you look at voting patterns it is clear that should the West fail it will in large part be due to the repercussions of universal suffrage. I don’t know what the answer is but I don’t think that anon’s anger is helpful either.

PS pssst IRL everyone thinks I’m a feminist BLM supporting leftist

>>16224502
Anywhere speech is truly free and ideas can be discussed and tried against each other will result in this.

>>16224550
People who value swathes of money are broken, and have broken away from love in the first place.

>find some uncontroversial statement on Twitter with many likes
>scrawl through the replies to find some ridiculous statement with .2% the amount of likes
>look at the discourse going on today! this is the state of our society! clearly we must revoke all voting rights and institute a literary dictatorship to tell them how to feel about books!

>>16224637
dangerously based

>>16224131
high art can be post modernist you're just letting your political autism cloud your perception of reality

>>16224189
this board died a while ago. I don't know what you expected

>>16224247
>You've spent more time with me tonight than a guy who actually wants to be with you. Remember, you don't want to end up that one girl in the group or family who is pushing 30 without a marriageable boyfriend.
You literally argued using point #1 on that image. Worthless cunt detected

>>16224770
based retard

>>16224453
neither of those things are bad anon

>>16224637
thank you

>>16224136
>>16224141
>>16224266
>>16224309
>>16224485
What a pathetic posts
You can't defend your pedo fantasies

>>16223484
Do they? All the normalfags I know just sit there and let the art happen to them and then they say they either liked it or not depending on their most immediate emotional reaction.

>>16224247
>implying there are any arguments from either side in the entire exchange
It's just idle insults mate:
>WOMEN BAD >:(
>HAVE SEX INCEL >:(
>NOOOOO USE ARGUMENT
>NO U
What an incredibly gay use of ones time.

>>16224998
But women are actually bad at almost everything. Nothing wrong with saying it.

>>16224302
Television is just a way to sell ads, that doesn't mean it can't be the sopranos. I know this is a bad example cuz hbo but fuck off.

>>16223452
>>16223459
What a pussy

>>16224219
It makes you based?

>>16224668
Useless statement without an example

>>16223452
It's not brutal, it's stupid. Lolita is strictly a "Don't Like, Don't Read" thing, because it's a genuinely disturbing piece of literature that's nevertheless got some real good literary qualities.

It's like going in the gutter to extract a priceless gold antique. Some may think it is worth it, others won't. Perfectly subjective.

But the other dude answering here is a moron who should stay away from books LMAO

THIS BBC is brutal

>>16224637
this unironically

>>16225134
Based, enjoying life.

>>16223459
I'm dying laughing, why is this writing style so funny to me?

>>16225369
because your balls are shut off and you're not being experimented on like a rat they breed to test medicine or gene splicing on

>>16225373
I don't have balls, but nice try nonetheless.

>>16224422
based and redpilled fellow incel

>>16225387
Post feet then go away

>>16225387
post onlyfans babygirl i wanna see your butthole

>>16224422
Absolutely BASED individual

>>16223452
Reminder only geniuses can appreciate Lolita

>>16223484
It's not.

I love loli hentai <3

>>16226287
who doesnt

>>16225818

what the fuck are the numbers? what is the vertical scale? what a retarded chart

>>16223452
>>16223459
These are perfectly acceptable standpoints. Just let people read what they want to read, you incels.

>>16226344
I just looked it up; the whole chart is kinda shit.
Basically, it's the top ten favorite books of a university, which are scored by that school's average SAT score..

Source: http://radar.oreilly.com/2008/01/books-that-make-you-dumb.html

>>16224148
The rich people don't know what they're buying, they pay people to buy art for them. Modern/Postmodern art is money laundering and tax evasion

>>16223452
This is your brain when all you've ever read is YA fiction

>>16224550
>Sure but could you at least find something better to launder it on? Even if postmodern art is nothing but a vehicle to dodge taxes with theres still room to produce something with more visual and cultural appeal
Usually the "art" gets sent to a warehouse, you have to pay for storage, and you rarely/never see it again. Banana taped to a wall? Fuck yeah, no storage fees, nothing to worry about (some fuckup accidentally pokes a giant hole through your picture, a big headache). Banana taped to a wall? No such thing.
If its a vehicle for

>>16225818
the fuck is the difference between "the bible" and "the holy bible"

>>16223452
Sarcastic posts on Twitter are not "discourse."

>>16225134
anyone else find this art style a touch disturbing? particularly the middle panel

>>16224422
It’s the failure of men for not being strong

>>16226287
>>16226306
Based cunnyseurs

I refuse to engage with the discarded concubines of whoremongers so talking to kids is my only option for human interaction.

>>16225818
>smartest book I’ve read in this chart is Ender’s Game, which I read in third grade

>>16225818
Based i dont read fags smarter than bradbury meme.

>>16225818
Brave new world not listed as dystopion lul

>>16228654
Even eragon mogs 451 brainlets

>>16226812
150 points.

Almost certainly vernacular differnce from certain sects and races. Maybe nigger baptists are more inclined to call it the holy bible over calvanists or something

>>16226706
So basically this is a chart measuring the preferences of pseuds, ranked by how well the given pseud is at answering basic algebra questions.
Wonderful, I am so glad that after 10,000 years of civilization, we produced someone who thought that this was the best way to find books for """"smart people"""".

>>16225818
>>16226706
>I find it somewhat amusing and surprising that erotica takes top and bottom positions, with Lolita at the top and the author Zane coming in last
>Lolita
>erotica
I am so fucking tired of having to explain to people that the book isn't some kind of sick porno. There's absolutely nothing erotic about it, but if you try to tell them that they look at you like you're a closet pedo.

>>16228707
Saying lolita isnt smut is like trying to claim loli isnt pedo and 3dpd is gross
You arent convincing anyone, not even yourself.

>>16228707
>>16228734
I see what you mean. Some people just don’t get it

>>16228734
Read the book, you dumb weeb.
If Lolita is smut, so are half the books in the canon. The most explicit part of the book is a heavily implied rape scene.

>>16228777
All sexualized media is smut. Including everything from 50 shades of gray to the sorrows of young werther.

>>16228707
>tfw Harold Bloom has left us
I miss him everyday bros

>>16228813
What about Bible and Song of Songs?

>>16224668
I don’t mind having and defending standards. It preserves the meaning of the words we use. Otherwise the Holocaust is also art.

>>16225818
What a retarded claim. The genius should then also be capable of discerning it as non-art and an exploration of degeneracy.

>>16228813
What's the fucking point of labeling it smut then? The entire point of the word "smut" is that it's the inclusion of sex for the purpose of erotic fulfillment or masturbation. If you just label everything that has sex or even loose physical intimacy as "smut" because you're a disgusting protie incel who feels offended by sex, then you've eliminated the entire fucking purpose of the label. Just cut your fucking dick off or something and go away.

Sex is a pivitol moment in most people's lives. There's a reason its considered an important if not the most important part of becoming a man instead of a boy. Of course people are going to want to write about it, it's an emotional experience.

>>16228857
Yeah some of the books in the bible are smut. Some of it is capeshit too.

>>16228896
Imagine being this oversocialized

>>16228891
>What's the fucking point of labeling it smut then?

To put them in the same tier of philosphical value. Some smut has more literary merit, but its all smut at the end of the day.

>>16228901
imagine ... is really bad vernacular. Purge trendy english phrasing from your lexicon.

>>16228910
All fiction is simulation. There is nothing especially simulatory about fictional sex vs. fictional killing vs. fictional emotional dialogue. It is a simulation of life, sometimes for distinct purpose. I don't disagree with you strictly speaking because I think some smut isn't simulated. I disagree with you because it's all simulated, which means it can all be philosophical or non-philosophical. There is nothing magical about "He put his penis in her vagina" that makes that have any more or less philosophical than "He put his thoughts in her head". Literary fiction is the simulation of life for the purpose of introspection. Sex is a part of life. All sex in literary fiction can be part of the introspective process.

>>16228959
>There is nothing especially simulatory about fictional sex vs

you got filtered. Sex is absolutly on an entrely differnt plane than violence. Libido dominandi.

>>16228990
>NOOOO, YOU CAN'T JUST APPRECIATE LITERATURE THAT HAS SEX, THAT'S GETTING FILTERED! YOU HAVE TO THINK LOLITA AND GRAVITY'S RAINBOW AND WHITE NOISE ARE WORTHLESS SMUT LIKE ME!
t. you

Taking a class on pre-civil war literature and the first writer that we are studying is Nathanial Hawthorne. As someone who loves Poe, Melville, Emerson, and Thoreau, I haven't decided how I feel about his writing. Your thoughts /lit/?

>>16229004
Typical coomer spazzing out over his cummies not being considered "art"

>>16229059
Healthy people can throw up a wall between their sexual lives and their non-sexual lives. I wonder why you can't?

>>16228865
Isn't it?

>>16229085
Show me the healthy people. Just because you have reduced sex to something closer to a bowel movement than a trancendental act doesnt mean it is banal and powerless in principle.

>>16223452
I dislike Lolita only because the prose has such an incredibly pretentious quality to it it's borderline impossible for me to read.

>>16223484
i think it is too. even if it wasnt, hearing people describe why it isnt would be useful too.

>>16229143
Sex was literally never a transcendent act until the fucking proties made it one in the last 300-400 years. For most of history sex has been a duty. You were expected to have sex and father children. That's why the Songs of Solomon are in the Old Testament. Again, you are not emotionally healthy. You are an incel who puts pussy on a pedestal and cannot comprehend that sex has been considered completely normal, if private, for most of history. That's why sex doesn't usually show up in older texts. Not because they were puritans who thought no one should talk about sex ever, but because it was just private and not considered decent for conversation, in the same way a bowel movement, yes, would have been considered indecent for conversation.

>>16224188
lol it's just another thread to rouse discord against WIMEN, this board is going to shit you idiots

>>16229196
Hylic retard thinks he knows history and doesn't even have a concept of perrenial sex magic. As expected as a charicature who uses vernacular like protties.

Not even reading your posts btw.

>>16223468
Nabokov didn't build a submarine, faggot.

>>16226841
yeah, it's so unsettling because the illustrator can't actually draw for shit; the art is deviantart level

>>16229196
>You are an incel who puts pussy on a pedestal

Embarrassing. Go back to /v/ please. Parroting these trendy catchphrases only further exposes you.

>>16224131
What justification do ‚artists‘ like this have to claim their works are art? Do they only have connections or is there actually more to them?

>>16229748
I mean you can call anything art, it's more what justification they have for claiming it's any good. But several people in this thread have suggested this shit is money-laundering anyway.

>>16229196
What an absolute fucking ape, thinking the Song of Songs is just about sex qua duty and not an erotic representation of the relationship between God and His Bride, the Church
/lit/ is confirmed /pseudcity/

>Twitter replies
>Discourse

>>16228707
I don't know bro, I can tell it's not advocating pedophilia but I find the first half of the book pretty hot and I'm pretty sure it's intentional.

My commie friend had Lolita included on his pile of "problematic" books that he was purging from his collection. I wonder what he thought was problematic about it?

>>16224422
MEIN NEGGER BASED POST

>>16224422

>>16228865
>Otherwise the Holocaust is also art.
Answer it anon, there is something we need to tell you

>>16223459
what a boring way to view art.

>>16229031
I like him, did a lot for classic American mythos with shit like the Birthmark and Young Goodman Brown